Carr bill aims to prevent feds from enforcing U.S. gun laws in TN

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 at 10:05pm

Congressional hopeful and state Rep. Joe Carr wants to ensure that any new gun restrictions handed down from Washington, D.C., go unenforced in the Volunteer State.

Carr, a Lascassas Republican, is introducing a bill that would slap federal officials with a Class A misdemeanor for enforcing new federal gun laws, executive orders, rules or regulations.

“It’s our attempt to push back on the federal government’s ever-increasing encroachment not only on our personal liberties but on our state sovereignty, and this is what we’re going to do. We’ve had enough, and enough is enough,” he told reporters at a press conference in Murfreesboro.

Under Carr’s proposal, House Bill 42, state troopers would have the authority to arrest federal officers, although he said he believed, but is not certain, the practice would be legal and added it would face a likely challenge by the courts if passed.

President Barack Obama unveiled 23 executive orders and a handful of legislative priorities Wednesday to address gun control in the wake of last month’s shooting at a Connecticut elementary school that left 20 students and six adults dead. Proposals include re-instituting an assault weapons ban and require a universal background check for anyone wanting to buy a gun.

Such a bill making it illegal for a federal agent to enforce federal laws almost guarantees a court challenge, said Ed Yarbrough, a former Middle Tennessee U.S. district attorney.

“There would be some issues with the concept of a state law more or less creating it a crime for a federal agent to enforce a federal law,” Yarbrough said. “It will probably have to be hashed out in the courts, and that will take years.”

While applauding the president’s gun control plan, the Tennessee Democratic Party sent out a press release scolding Carr, who is considering a bid for the 4th Congressional District in 2014.

“The state legislature could act to reduce gun violence locally, too. But instead, extreme politicians like Joe Carr are presenting legally suspect plans that would make criminals of officers who are working to protect our families. It's as disgraceful as it is self-serving,” said party Chairman Chip Forrester in an emailed statement.

On Obama’s proposals, Rep. Diane Black said, “While I will thoroughly review all of the president’s recommendations, I will not support any measure that undermines our Second Amendment right to bear arms. Addressing the symptom, rather than the root of the problem, will not make our children or society safer,” said Congressman Diane Black of the sixth congressional district.

77 Comments on this post:

By: pswindle on 1/16/13 at 11:35

This is what is wrong with TN. Why not protect our children, even Presidernt H. W. Bush put a ban on assault-weapons. The GOP will go against this President over everything, even if it is good for TN. Why do we need assault-weapons? The only reason that I can think of is fighting a war. The NRA is not as powerful as they were, and the gun makers will keep trying for the their glory days.

By: Ask01 on 1/17/13 at 4:46

Representative Carr should just propose a bill calling for Tennessee to secede from the Union. Considering the Republicans have a stranglehold on the legislature, I'm sure the bill would sail through with little opposition. Governor Haslam has a track record of non confrontation, so he would probably allow the bill to become law without a signature providing him a thin veneer of plausible deniability.

This would pave the way for the federal government to clean out the Tennessee state house and stop some of the insanity.

By: ancienthighway on 1/17/13 at 6:49

What would happen if the federal government took a page from the state's handbook? You go counter against our policies, you don't get any money. Will the NRA money be enough to keep the state running? The more this fight against sensible gun ownership goes on, the more I'm seeing the NRA as a treasonous organization that encourages domestic terrorism.

By: FaceBook:Emmett... on 1/17/13 at 8:43

What amuses me are the fools who think they're "liberals", yet haven't got the slightest understanding the rights of man. They fall in lockstep to whatever a clever progressive fascist says is "for the good of the children". Over 50 million American babies have been murdered and the dumb SOBs celebrate that "right" to kill the inconvenient. And to the woefully uninformed poster above - the feds have witheld money from states who don't comply with their policies for many, many years.

By: jeremiah on 1/17/13 at 8:47

I think this whole process could be simplified by rescinding the second amendment. It was obviously written at a time and for a people who had more common sense than we do; a time when you had to fill a musket before inflicting any damage. The playing
field was a bit more level.

By: Shof on 1/17/13 at 9:36

What is wrong with you people? Can't you see that the federal government is taking away your rights on a daily basis? The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting, it isn't about target practice or gun collecting, it's in place is to allow the PEOPLE to rise up against a tyrannical federal government, something we're rapidly approaching.

It's the 2nd Amendment that protects our 1st Amendment, our Right to Free Speech. It's those guns that enable everyone here to voice their opinions freely. Without the 2nd Amendment paving the way for the 1st, you might as well just sit and type "Obama is our savior" over and over. I believe that this proposed bill is wonderful! I believe that there shouldn't be additional federal gun laws restricting our rights as free people.

I feel that those words are as important now as they were back in the 1770's. Freedom and the wish to be free have NOT changed, nor has our need to be ever vigilent against tyranny. Do you really believe that criminals won't be able to get guns to commit their atrocities? Do you feel that if we restrict firearms that our society will be safer? Well, guess again!!

England, which has STRICT GUN CONTROL is the most violent country in Europe with a violent crime rate of 2,034 per 100,000 people. Canada, which only allows handgun ownership by private individuals under tight controls has a violent crime rate of 966 per 100,000 people. And here in the bloody old U.S.A.? The violent crime rate is 435 per 100,000 people.

The problem is NOT in gun ownership, the problem is with moral decay. The value of human life slips away on a daily basis. Look at how many babies are killed every day in abortion clinics. It's easier to have the government take care of you, but the government big enough to give you everything is also big enough to take everything away! Again, the problem is NOT GUNS! Hammers killed more people last year than "assault weapons." No one is crying for restrictions on hammers! Cars kill more people than guns do, yet no one is calling for restrictions on cars! Doctors kill more people annually than both guns and cars combined, yet no one is calling for a ban on "Assault Doctors."

The problem is we, as Americans have gotten so used to the government "doing something about it" that we've forgotten how to do things ourselves. And now we're reaping what we've sown....

By: Rocket99 on 1/17/13 at 9:37

Why do people elect stupid people to represent them. This guy is truly an idiot.

By: HamBoneHamBone on 1/17/13 at 9:46

Pretty sure that pesky little thing in the Constitution called the Supremacy Clause would make a mockery of Joe Carr's efforts.

By: pswindle on 1/17/13 at 10:24

TN is always front and center where idiots are concerned. Does Carr think that every Tennessean thinks his way? Who does he think that he is? I know, he is running for US Representaive, the next time around. This is all that TN needs is another right-wing nut in Washington. We certainly have our share; Black, Blackburn to name a couple.

By: pswindle on 1/17/13 at 10:25

TN is always front and center where idiots are concerned. Does Carr think that every Tennessean thinks his way? Who does he think that he is? I know, he is running for US Representaive, the next time around. This is all that TN needs is another right-wing nut in Washington. We certainly have our share; Black, Blackburn to name a couple.

By: wasaw on 1/17/13 at 10:39

The first thing that tyrrical governments do is take up all the guns; but not all at once. It's a slow process. We are now seeing a government who sells guns to drug runners and drug cartels, but doesn't want its citizens to own weapons. Why would this be? Germans never saw it coming in the late thirties. And then came the takeover of the newspapers. That's already occurred here in the U.S. We haven't found a publisher yet with the backbone to write about "Fast & Furious" or the true story concerning "Benghazi". Anyone know why?

Why is the president so concerned about the AR-15? It was only used to kill the mother of the Newtown shooter, and was never carried into the school where the students and teachers were killed. It was not even located in the car of the shooter. The mass murders were done with semi-auto handguns. Why isn't President Obama going after these weapons? Does he have an underlying reason for going after a weapon that was ONLY used in the murder of the mother, at her home, in what is considered a "domestic violence" incident? Why hasn't this fact been reported by our American media? It's common knowledge in Connectcutt. I'll tell you why. The truth is not what this administration wants you to know, just like it doesn't want you to know about "Fast & Furious" and "Benghazi", which by the way, ended in the deaths of more American lives. We'll never hear this President take responsibility for any of his failures, not as long as the present American press sits on their hands and reports nothing.

And to Rocket99, your question: "Why do people elect stupid people to represent them?. This guy is truly an idiot." Don't you think you should be more respectful when you're referring to President Barrack Hussein Obama?

By: Walter Sobchak on 1/17/13 at 10:46

Shof - Your arguments are so tired. It's like you zombies sit around rehearsing this same shallow argument and repeat it ad nauseam. Can't you think for yourself? The fact that you cite the second amendment as being about "rising up against a tyrannical government" is laughable. I think your powdered wig is on too tight. What are you planning on doing? Running into the hills? hiding from drones with infrared imaging in caves? and then striking Washington hard when they least expect it? Ridiculous. Car? Hammer? Give me a freaking break. Cars are built for transportation, Hammers for construction, what are guns built for? Killing. Period. Besides you need a license and insurance to drive a car, and if the murderer at Sandy Hook were using a hammer, he might have killed one person before he was gang dropped. Put some thought into things before your start spewing the NRA's rigid script. No wonder you gun carriers are 450% more likely to be shot than non-carriers. There is absolutely no place in our society for tools that are designed to carry out mass, efficient murders.

By: GUARDIAN on 1/17/13 at 10:59

Joe Carr's bill just might save 2 million liberal progressive communist lives in Tennessee. You can read whatyou like but OHITLER used the Sandy Hook children to tell us how to follow... Well history proves that you never follows a child's lead... Hitler used his Brown Shirt CHILDREN in the same way and their parents smiled and said yes MY little boy and girl are so wise but what Hitler used innocent children for in Germany is not going to happen here. This is from the World Health Organization:
The latest Murder Statistics for the world. Murders per 100,000 citizens.
Honduras 91.6,
El Salvador 69.2,
Cote d'lvoire 56.9,
Jamaica 52.2,
Venezuela 45.1,
Belize 41.4,
US Virgin Islands 39.2,
Guatemala 38.5,
Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2,
Zambia 38.0,
Uganda 36.3,
Malawi 36.0,
Lesotho 35.2,
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2,
Colombia 33.4,
South Africa 31.8,
Congo 30.8,
Central African Republic 29.3,
Bahamas 27.4,
Puerto Rico 26.2,
Saint Lucia 25.2,
Dominican Republic 25.0,
Tanzania 24.5,
Sudan 24.2,
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9,
Ethiopia 22.5,
Guinea 22.5,
Dominica 22.1,
Burundi 21.7,
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7,
Panama 21.6,
Brazil 21.0,
Equatorial Guinea 20.7,
Guinea-Bissau 20.2,
Kenya 20.1,
Kyrgyzstan 20.1,
Cameroon 19.7,
Montserrat 19.7,
Greenland 19.2,
Angola 19.0,
Guyana 18.6,
Burkina Faso 18.0,
Eritrea 17.8,
Namibia 17.2,
Rwanda 17.1,
Mexico 16.9,
Chad 15.8,
Ghana 15.7,
Ecuador 15.2,
North Korea 15.2,
Benin 15.1,
Sierra Leone 14.9,
Mauritania 14.7,
Botswana 14.5,
Zimbabwe 14.3,
Gabon 13.8,
Nicaragua 13.6,
French Guiana 13.3,
Papua New Guinea 13.0,
Swaziland 12.9,
Bermuda 12.3,
Comoros 12.2,
Nigeria 12.2,
Cape Verde 11.6,
Grenada 11.5,
Paraguay 11.5,
Barbados 11.3,
Togo 10.9,
Gambia 10.8,
Peru 10.8,
Myanmar 10.2,
Russia 10.2,
Liberia 10.1,
Costa Rica 10.0,
Nauru 9.8,
Bolivia 8.9,
Mozambique 8.8,
Kazakhstan 8.8,
Senegal 8.7,
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7,
Mongolia 8.7,
British Virgin Islands 8.6,
Cayman Islands 8.4,
Seychelles 8.3,
Madagascar 8.1,
Indonesia 8.1,
Mali 8.0,
Pakistan 7.8,
Moldova 7.5,
Kiribati 7.3,
Guadeloupe 7.0,
Haiti 6.9,
Timor-Leste 6.9,
Anguilla 6.8,
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8,
Lithuania 6.6,
Uruguay 5.9,
Philippines 5.4,
Ukraine 5.2,
Estonia 5.2,
Cuba 5.0,
Belarus 4.9,
Thailand 4.8,
Suriname 4.6,
Laos 4.6,
Georgia 4.3,
Martinique 4.2,
The United States 4.2.......ALL the countries above America have 100% gun bans and the numbers don't factor in those murdered by their own government.

By: FaceBook:Emmett... on 1/17/13 at 11:01

"No wonder you gun carriers are 450% more likely to be shot than non-carriers."
It's a proven scientific fact that 93.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot to try to win an argument.. You didn't win anyway, though.

By: Walter Sobchak on 1/17/13 at 11:06

Guardian- You are an IDIOT. 100% gun bans? Really? I've been to Honduras several times and people walk around with holstered weapons. In Puerto Rico, restaurant managers carry unconcealed weapons. Zimbabwe? Nicaragua? CONGO? SIERRE LEONE? North Korea???

These are the kinds of societies that you're endeavoring to turn our country into, and you don't even know it. Good thing we outnumber you and are here to protect you from yourself.

Is this a JOKE? Like I said, you retards should THINK before posting.

By: Walter Sobchak on 1/17/13 at 11:08

It's been studied for years and well-published, FaceBook Emmett. Oh I forgot, you subscribe to science.

By: Walter Sobchak on 1/17/13 at 11:08


By: ancienthighway on 1/17/13 at 11:10

wasaw, don't try to rewrite history to suit your current beliefs. In 1919 and 1920, the Weimer government passed very strict gun control regulations. The Weimer government eased those regulation somewhat in 1928, but they were still quite strict. In 1938, the National Socialist government eased those regulations buy repealing some and easing controls on others. Hitler did not order confiscation of any guns in the possession of German citizens. At the end of the war, Eisenhower was so shocked at the number of private citizens that had guns in their possession, he ordered their confiscation in order to safeguard the US military occupying the country.

Jews were forbidden from the manufacture of, dealing of, or owning firearms, but that was because Jews were not considered to be German citizens. The same was most likely true for any other non-ethnic German resident in Germany.

By: Jughead on 1/17/13 at 11:18

The liberal gun-control idiots are fired is time for this country to split. Hitler, Mussolini, and Obama all used children as props when taking away rights of citizens.

By: Jughead on 1/17/13 at 11:19

American liberals are the stupidest, most brainwashed idiots in the world.

By: Walter Sobchak on 1/17/13 at 11:27

Jughead - Stop using the term "gun control". I'm a gun owner and so are many advocates of assault weapons control. When I was a little kid, I loved machine guns, thought they were cool, but then I grew up. Seeing you fat slobs masturbate all over your assault weapons has just become way too sickening for society to handle. Like I said, good thing we outnumber you.

By: ancienthighway on 1/17/13 at 11:30

I recently saw some interesting statistics on the DoJ website. My remembrance of the exact numbers is off, but it is roughly what I state here. I can't say what year this is from, but I really can't imagine any major fluctuations from year to year.

Sixty percent of gun related deaths among adults were classified as suicide.

Sixty percent of gun related deaths in teens and children were classified as murder.

The CDC at one time was the only national organization that kept track of gun related incidents. The NRA successfully waged an effort to prohibit the CDC or any other national organization from tracking this information.

The NRA's answer to gun violence is more guns. That's like saying the answer to traffic congestion is to put more vehicles on the road.

By: envesta on 1/17/13 at 12:37

I am delighted to see Rep. Carr give another public push to the GOP's embarrassing slide into oblivion. If Democrats can't use this to rebound politically then they should simply disband. The party that brought us War on Women, War on Science, War on Teachers, War on Unions, and War on Health Care has now brought us War on Common Sense Measures to Curb Gun Violence. Way to go, conservatives. My only question is how in the world did something this stupid emerge from the Republicans without Sen. Campfield's name on it somewhere?

By: Jughead on 1/17/13 at 1:18

@ Sobchak: Go sit in the corner and try to matter, you fraud.

By: Jughead on 1/17/13 at 1:20

Bring the civil war on--there is no reasoning with libtards, and the scum will never stop until the Feds control absolutely everything in your life.

Now, Sobmoron, why was the Bill of Rights created? C'mon---fickwad azzhat--think hard and try to remember your grade school history.

By: Jughead on 1/17/13 at 1:20

Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin = Obama.

By: Jughead on 1/17/13 at 1:24

@Sobchak: Glad to know you DO NOT outnumber "us" in the House of Representatives. Want me to send you a tampon when your hero Obama's legislation fails?

By: GUARDIAN on 1/17/13 at 2:21

The bottom line is NO ONE will be taking anyone's guns that doesn't want them taken. None of you liberal progressive communist will do a thing but run your dirty pointed fingers on your keyboard because all you have is your control freak ways. Not one of you Second Amendment haters would dare put a sign in your front yard saying "NO GUNS HERE". I have one in my front yard that says "Criminals should leaver this area ASAP. This house and the sounding houses are protected my a highly trained PROFESSIONAL with a FIREARM. We all have guns and if you commit a crime here local law enforcement will not make it here in time to save you." ...GUARDIAN-GOD, COUNTRY, FAMILY and FRIENDS. The American Way.

By: HamBoneHamBone on 1/17/13 at 3:11

One of the biggest regrets I have had about moving to the state of Tennessee is the confirmation of what my colleagues in my home state (who had visited here before) told me about the sheer hysteria promulgated by the low-thinking, knuckle-dragging, illiterate, reactionary, conspiracy Kool-Aid drinking types such as Jughead and Guardian.

Thankfully, I don't socialize with their sort, but I do find it rather distasteful knowing I breathe the same local air that they do.

By: WayneR on 1/17/13 at 3:13

You would think after the 'take roadkill home and have your way with it' legislation, the 'don't say gay' fiasco, and Rep. Jim Summerville's recent "if you play the lottery you might not win' bill, nothing should surprise. But this Representative, Mr. Carr, either flunked 7th grade American history--the section on the Civil War---or slept through the series on the years 1850-1900.

> Rep. Joe Carr wants to ensure that any new gun restrictions handed down from Washington, D.C., go unenforced in the Volunteer State.

That issue, sir, was settled in 1865, the year the South was defeated by the North during that god-awful bloody war. Apparently Representative Carr would like to either turn back the clock and give the South another shot at succession or he would like a repeat of this sordid 19th Century mess.

Please sir...if you attended school, you should request a refund. You know, for that part of American History you failed to grasp.

None too hopefully.


By: Jughead on 1/17/13 at 4:35

@Hambonehead: Feel free to leave, bubba. Leave your baby sister--she loves it here.

By: Bill Bernstein on 1/17/13 at 4:56

While I think the bill runs into problems legally due to the Supremacy clause in the US Constitution I applaud the sentiment that we will not let Washington dictate how we lives our lives.

By: GUARDIAN on 1/17/13 at 5:06

Let's see Wayneroo the north forces the South to start a war over TAXES and State's rights not slavery(if it had been about slavery good old abe would of freed all the slaves at the beginning or before the war not wait over 2 years and then he only freed the ones in the South) NOW 600,000 farmers with few arms and supplies against 2,500,000 northern well equipped troops... then you have the Southern navy of 3,500 men against one of the best navies in the world 135,000 men strong. Getting back to freeing the slaves that happened because those farmers had been handing those 2.5 million troops the licking of their lives winning almost every battle. The South had no factories to build weapons and no way to get supplies but till they ran out but till then north was on it's backside. TODAY...100+ million gun owners that weren't pissed but they are now. Get out of their way when they get mad because it won't be north and South if it happens again. I hope that doesn't happened but if the left keeps showing it's arrogance their hopes of turning America into germany in the 1930's will disappear forever this time. Have a good day. GUARDIAN-GOD, COUNTRY, FAMILY and FRIENDS. The American Way.

By: James Arthur on 1/17/13 at 5:26

@Walter Sobchak,

You've called Shof non-thinking and a nut for saying the founders intended an armed populace as a defense against government gone wild. Well, Shof's exactly right--that's exactly what they said. It's all over their writings of the time, explained again and again. Apparently you haven't read them--it's there, clear, and the reasoning clearly explained. It still makes sense today.

Meanwhile, the measures the president's proposing do absolutely nothing to save anyone, and will result in a large number of people getting victimized and killed.

You write that guns are made for killing, while cars are made for some useful purpose. Absolutely false--you're repeating pablum, not thinking. Guns are NOT made or sold for murder--that's illegal, and severely punished. If guns were made and sold for killing, America would be depopulated in short order.

Not useful for anything else but murder? Guns ARE extremely useful for defending your LIFE, the most useful use imaginable for any tool.

Of course anything can be used or misused--freedom isn't totally free. Teens driving cars, alcohol, tobacco, fast food, swimming pools, plastic bags, and many other things kill far more children than guns.

But that gets away from the most important point of all, which is that self-defense is the most basic human right, unalienable, and no threat to anyone whatsoever.

By: Ask01 on 1/17/13 at 6:26

The upside is, I'm fairly certain the authorities, using the provisions of the Patriot Act and other laws passed to expedite the monitoring of terrorists and potential terrorists, both foreign and domestic, have files on those who have leanings toward civil unrest.

Those who keep parroting concerns about having to use their weapons against the government, and especially those expressing a willingness to do so are probably of particular interest.

This could become a very civil board at some point when the reactionaries are rounded up.

By: GUARDIAN on 1/17/13 at 7:03

LMAO.... Facts and threats are two different things asknone... there is only one upside... The Constitution and Bill of Rights... I pray that Tennessee joins the other states that believe in States Rights and American's right to FREEDOM.GUARDIAN-GOD, COUNTRY, FAMILY and FRIENDS. The American Way.

By: Ask01 on 1/17/13 at 7:14

James, your post paints the picture of being left with no means of self defense.

Which is total hogwash.

The proposal is to make those weapons commonly refered to as assault rifles harder to obtain. Not all weapons, just those. You can still cuddle, caress, snuggle and whatever else you do, (which I don't wish to know,) with your other firearms.

When these weapons and the ammunition are hard to find, with the threat of a long prison sentence and crippling penalties, the price will go up beyond the common thugs ability to pay.

Likewise, with no high capacity magazines, the 'bad guys' will have to reload more often, making them vulnerable as they do so.

I know these are difficult concepts, but try to keep up.

To repeat, as simply as possible. No one take all guns. Only big guns. You understand? Big man no take all guns.

No one, well, some perhaps, but most don't want to take all your toys away. You will still have firearms you can leave around the house for the kids to find. You will not be 'gunless' as you fight your way from your house to your car every morning. You will still be able to lay down covering fire as the family dodges unfriendlies going to the restaurant and back. (If I lived in such a dangerous neighborhood as you gunlovers, I'd move.)

The upshot is, once they are banned, only criminals will have these in their possession, and they can be arrested, fined, imprisoned, and their weapons confiscated and destroyed, removing threats from society.

A good plan, I believe.

By: Ask01 on 1/17/13 at 7:21

I do suspect GUARDIAN will be one of the first picked up for questioning.

Since he, like others has to resort to juvenile insults and name calling, I suspect the group fears they would never pass a psychological background check.

In fact, considering the level of insults, and one track minds as they try to defend their unnatural obsession, I wonder if they are merely fearful of that outcome regarding psychological testing.

By: cmg1995 on 1/17/13 at 8:09

This comment is directed towards pswindle's comment. Where did you get your information that "Presidernt H. W. Bush put a ban on assault-weapons"? President H.W. Bush was not in office when the Brady Bill (the last assault weapons ban) was signed and put into office. President Clinton was in office and signed the bill into law. Also, if "the NRA is not as powerful as they were" then why has their membership been increasing dramatically since the entire ban on assault weapons discussion started and donations to the NRA have increased as well? The answer to this question is very simple...there are some of us who still believe in the Constitution and don't believe it is the Federal Government's right to take away our rights. I'm sure you are one of those individuals who believes that banning assault weapons will solve the problem, right? So the government bans assault weapons and there will not be any gun related violence just like they passed laws making drugs such as cocaine illegal....oh wait a minute drugs are a huge problem in this country. I guess you also think that the criminals will not get a hold of these weaspons either, You would be worng about that, too. In fact, it is innocent people like us that will pay the price for gun control not the criminals who deserve to pay the price. I feel more comfortable knowing I'm in charge of defending myself rather than the idiots in Washington.

By: GUARDIAN on 1/17/13 at 8:18

ASKNO no need to insult a flea such as yourself... we were talking about Joe Carr's bill till that stray dog walked through and you jumped off it's backside with your insults... now crawl away boy before your chat feelings get hurt.GUARDIAN-GOD, COUNTRY, FAMILY and FRIENDS. The American Way.

By: Ask01 on 1/17/13 at 8:31

I am constantly amazed by the ignorance of the gun nuts. To repeat ad nauseum the same tired, worn out cliches, indicates to me they have no other argument and are incapable of independent, intelligent thought.

I have been against a total ban on firearms, but the extremely low level of intellectual competence makes me begin to believe such a move might be desirable. Some of the commenters have reacted so badly, I believe they are mentally unstable and prone to violence. Allowing them weapons is just asking for trouble.

I can only imagine what it is like to be in such constant fear, one cannot bear the thought of the slightest restriction on owning a weapon. Or to be so insecure and inadequate I need compensation.

By: Ask01 on 1/17/13 at 8:38

Ah guardian, you continue to make the case for total confiscation so easy to present. I'm more certain than ever you will be in the first roundup.

Peurile behavior and school yard taunts are what I've come to expect from the less educated and sophisticated.

We're laughing at you, by the way.

By: yogiman on 1/18/13 at 6:46

Haven't any of you Obama fans ever wondered why Barry refuses to identify himself? Haven't you wondered why he's spent millions keeping his personal records of information under lock and key? Haven't any of you wondered why he began forming his "special army" the first day he usurped that office?

But most important, haven't any of you wondered why Congress allowed him to usurp our president's office without question?

Haven't any of you wondered why he was allowed on all states ballots in 2012 after many of the states' legislatures made comments everyone would be required to prove their authority to be on their ballots?

Haven't any of you wondered why our military has been reduced in personnel?

You had better wake up, folks, unless you're in favor of a communist dictator such as Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

By: paysattention on 1/18/13 at 7:15

I thought this was a red state? what happened to the conservative base in TN?????

By: ancienthighway on 1/18/13 at 7:45

Congress, to include a very conservative House, apparently had found no reason for the POTUS not take office. They have also found no reason to impeach him.

Every state challenge on Obama's nationality was denied by every state's court system.

As wars and military action end, military requirements are reduced. It happened after every war from the American Revolution up through Afghanistan. If you had a clothing factory that made shirts, and then you stopped making shirts, would you keep those shirt-making employees employed doing nothing?

So I wonder, is your steadfast opposition to the President because he is a Democrat, or because he is black, or because he is a black Democrat? Tell me, what is this "special army" that is being assembled? Facts and figures, not just a belief based on which way your wind blows.

By: Loner on 1/18/13 at 8:14

Pure grandstanding.....Carr ought to be arrested for promoting sedition....git a rope!

Same for Diane Black and the other tea-baggers in the Coonskin Cap state...round up these secessionist-friendly A-holes and incarcerate them in federal prisons...make object lessons out of these would-be rebels.

The 2nd amendment solution to an oppressive government in Washington was tried in 1861....618,000 died as a result....these idiots in Tennessee want a re-match? Strip these jerks of their US citizenship then deport them....turn Tennessee back into a US territory...then subdivide it and occupy it....this is not a joke, ingrate rebels make me sick.

By: Loner on 1/18/13 at 8:27

Perhaps, we need to have gun owners sign loyalty oaths to the US Constitution and to The USA itself, as a prerequisite for owning and/or purchasing a firearm.....this requirement would screen out many of the psychopaths, the ingrates, the conspiracy theorists, the nut-jobs, the right-to-lifers, the homophobes, the Confederate sympathizers and the white supremacists.

By: pswindle on 1/18/13 at 10:03

Go check and you will find that the first Presidnet George Bush did ban assault-weapons and resigned from the NRA. Carr wants to take America back, back from whom? We had better try to keep America safe and protect our children.

By: Left-of-Local on 1/18/13 at 10:46

Most of the neocon tripe here was very TLDR.

My only comment is that I would prefer to see a band of our jack-booted and corrupt State Troopers lose a hand-to-hand (or for that matter shootout) battle with federal law enforcement. That'd teach them a nice lesson.

Idiots. 23 easy and good ideas that don't even touch the 2nd amendment and these redneck whack-jobs can't even do that. Of course, they were going to automatically hate on anything President Blackenstien said, so why am I surprised?

SO, SO glad I was too young to know how bad Lascassas' populace is when I lived there...

By: wasaw on 1/18/13 at 11:07

I've noticed that many of the writers on this issue have run out of facts and have resorted to name calling. How many of you "gun-haters" were not born and raised in Tennessee?
Why are you here? Did you get a personal invitation to settle here, or like most of you, decided you like the climate, the people, etc.

Have you noticed that we vote Republican, as a majority. We all laugh when we hear the name "Gary Odum". Owning a gun, hunting wild animals with a gun, and target shooting with a gun is something that has been engrained in most Tennessee born individuals. For those of you who were not born or raised here, I understand your fear of weapons. It's because you've never been taught the proper use and safety of a gun.

Owning a rifle, shotgun, revolver, semi-auto handgun, or any other devise that fires a projectile doesn't make you a bad peron, no more than voting Democrat makes you a bad person. Now if you happen to know "Gary Odum", or fraternize with "Gary Odum", that might put you in another category. The good thing about living in our beautiful state is that we born and raised Tennesseans will always have your back when "Mr. Badguy" walks up to you and attempts to rape your wife or daughter, or kill your son. You see, even though you don't have the intelligence or courage to protect your own, we do. Your local law enforcement will take minutes to get to you. The criminal act routinely only takes seconds. Always remember: "when seconds count, your police are only minutes away" . This is written by a retired thirty-six year law enforcement officer.