Council moves forward with fairgrounds master plan, spares racetrack for now

Wednesday, January 19, 2011 at 3:34am

After one of the most impassioned public hearings in recent Nashville history, the Metro Council Tuesday backed off on plans to demolish the fairgrounds racetrack for now, opting instead to create a new “master plan” that will dictate the fate of the speedway and the fairgrounds property.

An estimated 1,000 citizens packed the Metro courthouse Tuesday night, forcing hundreds to spill into overflow areas situated in the building’s basement and on its sixth floor. The vast majority were auto enthusiasts dressed in red pleading for the survival of the track they love. Some longtime Metro officials said it was the largest gathering they’ve ever seen at a council meeting. 

Citizens came to speak for or against a bill that would have called for the demolition of the historic racetrack. But hours before Nashvillians even lined up at the courthouse doorsteps, council members had already used committee meetings to begin talks on amending the bill to incorporate the new master plan approach.

In the end, following a three-hour-plus public hearing, the council voted to approve an amendment introduced by Councilman Jason Holleman, which takes the language “demolition of racetrack” completely out of the bill, calls for the state fair to stay at the Nolensville Pike property through 2012, retains the expo center until a new location is landed and paves the way for the master plan to determine the best use of the property. A 40-acre park is already in store for fairgrounds land that falls within the city’s floodplain. 

With the amendment approved, the revised bill found undivided support, clearing the council’s second of three votes by a unanimous 37-0 vote, setting off a few cheers from racing fans in the gallery. The ordinance is up for third and final reading next month.

“I’m terribly pleased,” said Councilman Michael Craddock, one of the leading voices in support of the fairgrounds and its racetrack. Craddock pointed out the bill had only hours earlier sought to demolish the speedway.

No doubt, Tuesday night was a clear victory for Nashville’s racing community, as the council also voted 21-19 to defeat a competing amendment introduced by Councilwoman Sandra Moore that would have effectively ended racing at the speedway. The council chose Holleman’s amendment because it lacked that provision.

“We’ve heard a lot of people who care about racing tonight,” Holleman said. “When we come to the table for this [master plan] process, everyone needs to come on equal footing.”

Councilman Duane Dominy, who last year filed a bill that would keep the status quo at the fairgrounds property, came away content with the master plan, which is to be engineered by the Board of Fair Commissioners, the Metro Planning Department and the Metro Parks and Recreation Department.

“I think we can address the concerns of all the parties in a way that’s respectful,” he said. “If we can include all the voices so that we can come up with a viable plan that honors all the history of that property, then I think the master plan will be a good thing.”

But while arguably a setback –– because Moore’s amendment failed –– Tuesday night wasn’t a complete loss for Mayor Karl Dean and members of his administration, who want to redevelop the property to accommodate a mixed-use development anchored by corporate office space.

As outlined in the amended bill, the forthcoming master plan –– which the council would need to adopt –– is to give consideration to existing plans already drafted by groups such as the Nashville Civic Design Center and the Washington D.C- based Urban Land Institute. Those documents, in essence, recommend racing end at the fairgrounds. 

While acknowledging, “You never get everything that you want,” Metro Finance Director Richard Riebeling called the master plan a “good, positive step forward.”

“This is going to take time,” Riebeling said of the administration’s fairgrounds hopes. “We all know that. But I think you heard for the first time tonight from the community, whose voice had never been heard from before.

“A study is good,” he added. “It’s in the hands of the fair board of what they want to do. They’ve voted very strongly not to do racing because it’s just not an economic model that is viable.”

According to council attorney Jon Cooper, the master plan would address the construction of the fairgrounds park, the restoration of nearby Browns Creek, the future of existing facilities including the racetrack, the possible addition of mixed-used development and necessary zoning changes. He said the planning commission, fair board and parks board are to decide on a timeframe to draft the plan. 

That indefinite period of time should allow for the fairgrounds debate to only continue, with arguments heard during the marathon public hearing likely to remain at the forefront.

Neighbors of the fairgrounds property, often overshadowed by passionate racing fans, took the public hearing opportunity to discuss the racetrack’s pollution and noise, while calling the speedway an “eyesore” to a frustrated community. Neighbors said it’s finally time to start revitalizing the area. Some said the property has potential to become “the next Grassmere or MetroCenter.”    

“Throughout this process, I believe it is the neighbors of this area who have not been heard,” said Betty Page, a 52-year resident of the surrounding fairgrounds neighborhood. “We did not move into the noise of our neighborhood. The noise moved in on us.”

Keith Moorman, a member of the neighborhood group South Nashville Action People, likened the fairgrounds fight as a battle of “David versus Goliath,” with the neighbors representing the underdog. His analogy was a jab at Save My Fairgrounds, which has received considerable funds from the likes of NASCAR legends Darrell Waltrip and Sterling Marlin.

A fair comparison or not, racing enthusiasts are now encouraged to carry on with the case they’ve made for months in light of Tuesday’s proceedings. 

“This is the premier track in the Southeast and probably throughout the United States,” said Ricky Bolden, an auto racer. “If you do away with it, you’ll never have it again. You’ll never have a second chance at this. It doesn’t just belong to the neighborhood. It belongs to all of us.”

Marlin, who resides outside Davidson County, along with other racers who have rallied behind Save My Fairgrounds, introduced a refurbished fairgrounds and racetrack proposal last week, which would privatize racetrack operations and set up a sound barrier to try to ease noise concerns.

“We can fix noise,” Marlin said last night. “A $50 muffler will fix everything.”    

55 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 1/19/11 at 4:22

This is a delaying tactic; do not let your guard down. The special interests are looking for ways to circumvent public opinion; if the fans of the fairgrounds sit back and relax, their clever opponents will defeat them. Stand your ground!

By: spooky24 on 1/19/11 at 6:43

Yup- they didn't win a thing. Obviously, the plan is too lull them to sleep with a fax win-while planning the demolition and redevelopment in private. This time removing any detention with legal writs to force the plan to be imposed. It is quite clear that The Fuhrer-oops I meant Mayor Dean doesn't like to lose. This time next year it will all be gone. The overwhelming majority of persons in the red shirts are native politically- as can be seen by claiming victory.

Perhaps, someone can bring them up to speed as to what is really going on.

sp

By: gdiafante on 1/19/11 at 7:41

nuke the track

By: nash615 on 1/19/11 at 7:52

Crooks, whores, and pillagers. Welcome to politics as usual in Nashville.

Dump the lot of 'em.

By: Funditto on 1/19/11 at 7:54

I've never seen so many rubes in one room in my life. What a shame they prevailed. I'm certain these are the same folks who cried "progress" when faced with Conservation Zoning.

By: Loner on 1/19/11 at 7:54

Nash615, you left out the plunderers.

By: Loner on 1/19/11 at 7:56

"Room Full o' Rubes"....that's a catchy title, Funditto. Sounds like a Blues tune.

By: Funditto on 1/19/11 at 8:02

Rubes and boobs!

By: nashviller on 1/19/11 at 8:03

if it was possible for a $50 muffler to solve the noise issue, then the neighbors should be even more outraged they have had to put up with the noise all this time. Nascar is all about noise. There is no way to control it unless nascar is going green and all the cars are going to be electric.

The only way that racetrack should stay is if they go back to racing horses there as it was originally intended. If the racers want a lease for several years, expect the noise to get ALOT worse than it has been in years past. It just can't coexist with thousands of residents all around. That noise can be heard all over 12th south, miles away

By: Loner on 1/19/11 at 8:06

The flip side, Funditto?

Boobs are better than rubes, there's common ground there. Any trailer trash tats sticking out of the back side of those low-cut jeans? That helps to make a boring meeting more interesting.

By: Funditto on 1/19/11 at 8:57

Just some sad looking cleavage from Louisville.

By: TITAN1 on 1/19/11 at 8:58

LOL! I see some bitter sore losers. Then there are those who were ready to post something negative either way.

By: racinmom on 1/19/11 at 9:17

SAVE OUR FAIRGROUNDS!! I SUPPORT EVERYONE TRYING TO SAVE OUR TRACK!AND A BIG THANK YOU!!!
THIS IS A HISTORICAL TRACK. ALOT OF MEMORIES @ THE FAIRGROUNDS. MAINLY THE RACETRACK, FOR ME AND MY FAMILY. IT'S A FAMILY TRADITION, AS MY SON WOULD SAY.
AND IT'S RICKY BOLDEN NOT BOLDER. I AGREE THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST TRACKS IN THE SOUTHEAST.
ALOT OF PEOPLE COME FROM OTHER STATES TO RACE AT THIS TRACK.
AND YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST THE TRACK I DARE YOU TO COME TO ONE RACE THIS NEXT SEASON. WHEN YOU LEAVE I PROMISE YOU WILL WANT TO COME BACK. OH YEAH BRING YOUR KIDS IT IS A FAMILY EVENT AND THEY WILL WANT TO COME BACK EVERY WEEKEND.

By: bfra on 1/19/11 at 9:42

I didn't see any rubes at the meeting! Fun, did you expect the women to leave their boobs at home?

I did see alot of people that cared about the future of Nashville and don't like Karl's false tactics for ignoring the people that live here.

By: yogiman on 1/19/11 at 10:04

The neighbors were talking about the noise? Was the track there when they moved there, or was they living there when it was formed? Why wasn't the arguments about the disagreements made back then?

To solve the noise issue; build the track about 15,000 into the space over Nashville. They could do it today with their technologies. All they would need would be a parking area in the Nashville and a bus to take them to the "airlift" to the track.

By: gage on 1/19/11 at 10:06

Race fans, fair people and flea market people's is your parents, kids and friends. There money spends like football fans and golfers.
King Dean is the outsider.

By: jwd88 on 1/19/11 at 10:23

Sound absorbtion barriers around the track and low decibel rated mufflers CAN and WILL end the noise issues. Whats the big deal people... If its made to be quiet, 90% of those complaining will be happy, The other 10% will never be happy no matter what is built there, They will just move their complaints on to something else. I listened their ideas last night and their main concern was the noise, . along with most of them wanting a park in the neighborhood. Lets all of us get together and come to an agreement, I am positive we can become good neighbors and co-exist together and enjoy the fairgrounds as the family oriented facility it was intended to be.. Words to remember.................... Love Thy Neighbor as Thy Self.

By: relliott on 1/19/11 at 10:42

The people that bought homes in the area before racing was at the FairGrounds have a legitimate complaint. This can be handled in several ways besides tearing down the race track. Just like 440 or many sections of Briley and the Interstates a sound wall makes a big difference.
If you moved in after the racing began, too bad. If you didn't like like you should not have moved there.
Metro has let the property deteriorate greatly but it is not to the point of being unrepairable. The fair is a great educational opportunity for the residents of Davidson County. The Flea Market and venues in the buildings on the property certainly pay their own way and can contribute to the upkeep of the property.

By: racer84 on 1/19/11 at 10:43

Why is it that those that want to label the people in favor of the Fairgrounds as rubes, rednecks, get rid of the ghetto etc......All make the tackiest comments ?

Your rants makes what's really in your heart too obvious. You don't want common people and blacks in your neighborhood because you are so much better than them.

Compare the neighborhood demographics to the faces you saw in yellow. What was missing ?

Using an African American Metro Council Lady to further this agenda is icing on the cake for you pigs isn't it ?

By: airvols on 1/19/11 at 10:54

We now know the council has no backbone and don't care about creating new jobs for Nashville. It appeared to me the car jocks were from everywhere but Davidson County. They should have asked for proof of residence to enter the chambers last night. The good news is this is not a dead issue and in the end I believe the whole thing will be moved, maybe we can put it in Williamson County where some of the car jocks live and see if Williamson County will approve the race track. LOL NOT!

By: bfra on 1/19/11 at 10:58

airvols - Do you actually think, all people attending functions at the Fairgrounds, live in Davidson Co., or even TN, for that matter? Kinda narrow minded, don't ya think?

By: concernedtaxpayer on 1/19/11 at 11:13

airvols - You should have been there last night and then you could have actually seen how many actual Davidson County citizens were for the Racetrack. I guess you were watching it on Metro 3. Many including myself from Davidson County did not speak due to being courteous to let the council vote. If you wanted to see Davidson County citizens only speak, that could have been done. However, there would have been at least 10 times those speaking for the racetrack and would have lasted on into probably 4 or 5 am. In addition, the fairgrounds is attended by those in surrounding counties and states just like the Titan's games, Predators games, and events at the Municipal Auditorium that is subsidized. So why should these others be subsidized but not the fairgrounds?

By: hottrodd on 1/19/11 at 11:20

voice of nashvie that karl dean refuses to hear

well we won the battel,, simply by sticking togeather and standing up for what was and is right
we have not won the war yet !! so we stillneed to keep our great fight going because
I AS SEVERAL NASHVILLEANS DO NOT TRUST OURMAYOR KARL DEAN !
i voted for his idiot and will have to live with my decision , but we needto keep the fightgoing
AND NOW CONCENTATE ON GETTING DEAN OUT OF OFFICE, HE CANT BE TRUSTED I DONT THINK AND HES NOT GOING TO STOP UNTIL HE GETS HIS WAY
HES ALREADY MADE THREATS THAT IF HE DIDNT GET RID OF THE FAIRGROUNDS& RACETRACK HEWOULD UP ON TAXES DID WE FORGET THIS ?
IM TELLING YOU HES A DANGEROUS PERSON WITH THE POWER OF BEING MAYOR
SO WATCH HIM CAREFULY HE WILL NOT GIVE UP SO WE HAVE GOT TO GET TOGEATHER AND GETHIM VOTED OUT OF THE MAYORS OFFICE.
THANK YOU GOD BLESS YOU ALL

By: karlwithak on 1/19/11 at 11:23

Racer84 sure nailed it, I found an article online that backs up exactly what he said.

Fred Agee's name and face can't seem to get enough camera time, and really chases to get his name in print. This is the Yellow Shirt Leader who was directing them and counseling Sandra Moore at every opportunity.

uppity youngsters" is putting it politely. Perhaps "gentrifiers" is a better word.

SNAP co-leader Keith Moorman - most prolific house flipper in the neighborhood.
Other SNAP co-leader Colby Sledge - renter for the past 2 years.

Attorney Fred Agee, often seen counseling Sandra Moore - well, see what the New York Times said about him in an article published on "Race Matters.org", read the whole thing, or start at paragraph 11:

The two-year-old Skullbone Music Park, off a two-lane road 40 miles north of the small city of Jackson, is the fulfillment of a lifelong dream by a local concert promoter, Allen Blankenship, who says he always wanted a place in the countryside for good ol' boys who don't want to have to drive to Memphis or Nashville and deal with rude city people every time they want to see a show.
"This is the first gig we've played in the States where there aren't any black people," said Pete Agnew, the bassist in the Scottish hard-rock band Nazareth, which performed at Skullbone Music Park on a recent Saturday.

To an outsider the park, despite the lawnchairs spread inside and the children running around, can be a jolting experience from another era in the rural South. At one concession table at the Nazareth concert, a vendor was selling Ku Klux Klan iron crosses. His T-shirt also bore the logo of a cross and said in part, "The K.K.K. is getting bigger." Another concertgoer wore a T- shirt that read "The Original Boys in the Hood" and featured a large image of a hooded Klansman. At previous shows white bikers' associations have sold "Equal Rights for Whites" T-shirts.

Asked whether it was safe for black people to attend concerts at Skullbone, one vendor of concert souvenirs, speaking on condition of anonymity, said: "I'd advise against it. It's not a good idea. They're liable to get beat up. Last year there were two blacks in the alcohol-free area, and when the sun went down, people started saying things like, Those two trees there look mighty sturdy to me.' They got out of there pretty quick."

Fred Agee, 21, a student from the area, said not everybody in town or at the concerts thought alike. "People make it out to be like it's a bunch of uneducated rednecks with three teeth in their heads that don't have anything else to do," he said. "But I'm a young college student, and my uncle's a lawyer, and we go out there and hang out. There are bigots out there and racist people, but it's still pretty diverse."

http://www.racematters.org/skullbonia.htm

I'd have to think there is no way anyone could visit such a site and be comfortable in that enviroment without being racist. To be so arrogant to even give an interview to brag about it is even more absurd.

These (fill in the blank) are concerned about moving ALL the undesirable parts - and people - out of the neighborhood, at any cost. I'm sure it's only coincidence they are all white. They routinely suggest the Fairgrounds can be the next Green Hills. If they wanted to live in Green Hills, they should have moved to Green Hills.

By: TITAN1 on 1/19/11 at 11:30

Racer84, stereotyping is a lazy person's way of thinking.

By: GUARDIAN on 1/19/11 at 11:50

GUARDIAN-“We can fix noise,” Marlin said last night. “A $50 muffler will fix everything.” Well Sterling fixed the noise problem with one statement. For years race tracks around the country have went to the muffler rule and it hurts nothing about the performance of the race cars but I'm sure that the pro Dean anti race track gang don't want to hear that. If Nashville had not allowed Karl Dean to buy the election and had elected Bob Clement it won't have the troubles it has today.

By: yucchhii on 1/19/11 at 11:57

For now? NO!! How about FOR GOOD!!! You IDIOTS in the council don't get it, people are not waisting their energy to get a "FOR NOW"...They are doing this to get you to leave it alone...PERIOD!!! The TAX PAYERS are NOT paying you to DESTOY NASHVILLE!!

By: bfra on 1/19/11 at 12:11

IMO - Karl is fried, over done and will be gone come election day.

By: TRHJR on 1/19/11 at 12:24

KEEP M ROAR`N !!!!!

By: pswindle on 1/19/11 at 12:38

This is going in the right direction. The people have power. Maybe, this will send Dean a lesson. He can't take everything away from Nashville.

By: airvols on 1/19/11 at 1:30

bfra, talk about narrow minded do you think that everyone the flys into the Nashville International Airport has a vote on how to run the place, NO! This belongs to the people of Nashville and Davidson County, it is their decision to make not outsiders who make a profit on racing.

By: thetruthwillset... on 1/19/11 at 1:55

I really wish posters and protesters would stop talking about the Mayor and Council not listening to what "the people" want. Please stop confusing racetrack supporters with "the people." If all the facts were clearly presented on this issue - race attendance, costs, taxes paid currently, current jobs balanced against potential job creation, potential taxes paid, quality of life changes (even net of benefit to the area minus loss of recreation and entertainment), this wouldn't even be a close question for anyone but diehard racing fans. The question is really about whether the city should continue to support a benefit for the few against the cost - mostly in lost opportunity - to the many. I'd rather hear that argument than all the class warfare being thrown about, especially when it appears to be somewhat illogically applied. KarlwithaK - I can't believe you are really making an argument that folks in favor of closing the track are racist. Do you really think that the racetrack is a place that black citizens feel welcome? There is no insidious reason that black councilpersons are in favor of tearing down the track or are somehow being twisted into that position - like many others, they want to see jobs stay in the city, and some of the other proposals on the table create real jobs, which the fairgrounds don't. Couple that with a lack of support for an historically racist sport - stock car racing - and you don't need any twisted intrigue to explain it. I hope the council toughens up and does their job being good stewards of the city's assets and moves toward a plan that provides for real and lasting economic development. Unless the racing community comes forward with a plan that includes the track as a centerpiece of an automotive-focused industrial or office park (including Nissan, Ford, etc. and allowing the track to be used as a test track), my sense is that the track will be and should be gone.

By: CrimesDown on 1/19/11 at 2:22

I don't know who did the City Paper's estimating, but 1000 isn't even close. At least 1800-1900 people attended. Probably well over 2000.

By: karlwithak on 1/19/11 at 2:23

Ok, so a white resident of the area is told by those wanting to do away with the track that the plan is to get rid of the white trash that uses the fairgrounds first, then we can get rid of the blacks and government housing thats killing our property values and trashing up our neighborhood.
They didn't know he had a black sister in law. Oops !!!!
I saw a lot of signs for the fairgrounds in black residents yards.
I've never seen anyone from nascar give an interview from a klan rally, but one of the leaders of the neighborhood did so i'm going to have to believe the mans story.

By: jasonweaver on 1/19/11 at 2:38

airvols you are completely misguided in your comments. 30 years ago Nashville put a plan in place that said among many things that the city should be the entertainment/cultural/sport hub for the region. If outsiders are allowed to comment, then all of the support for the convention center should be discounted. All of the support for the Predators and Titans outside the county should never count. Most of the season tickets sales for the Preds come from outside the county. Titans have a lot from outside the state. What came from people outside the county was a perspective of people who come in here and would use the facility, spend money here and leave. That's really the best kind of money to come in because the only infrastructure they are using is the track -- not schools etc.

By: jasonweaver on 1/19/11 at 2:49

thetruthwillset ... you are buying into the myth that somehow demolishing everything on the property will be a magic bullet that brings in companies and jobs. Look around the country in similar sized cities. Where has something like this been done successfully? There's actually a better argument for an urban racetrack coexisting with neighborhoods successfully than urban infill in medium sized cities that successfully attracts corporations, particularly new corporations to the city. That's the key ... new to the city, not simply shuffling pieces around on a game board. That's more likely to happen than bringing in new companies. So where's the benefit in that? That's like taking money from one pocket and putting it in another. There were people so worried about May Town being a second downtown, well where the hell do you think tenants would come from if the fairgrounds were redeveloped? They come from downtown, midtown, West End, maybe even the airport area. If city leaders wanted to move toward lasting economic development, they would focus solely on urban infill but do smart, dense green field development as well. If they were serious, they why not go after the PSC Metals site? That's a nice big chunk of property there. I surmise they won't go after that site because PSC would put up a fight and it would be expensive. But hey if they are so willing to spend taxpayer dollars to invest in the city's economic development future then the sky's the limit and PSC Metals could be moved. But that means moving to someone else's backyard and gosh that would be a fight too.

By: bfra on 1/19/11 at 3:10

airvols - Nashville & Davidson Co are not just the people that live near the Fairgrounds, in what ever zip code that is, either!

By: woodbineman on 1/19/11 at 5:34

Noise pollution! what a joke i grew up with Berryfield next door.For the ones that dont what that this it's the Nashville Airport. We didn't complain about that because in the 70's when we bought the house the Airport was there.Never stayed in the house always wanted to be outside to work on the yard or have a cookout with the passenger jets being just part of the show.But, there's alway's the people that need drama so they complained and the Airport bought their houses and windows for everybody else that wanted them.That's for a 24/7 noise.So just saturday nite and thursday day practice with some racecars not jets.A sound absorbing wall and a $50 muffler is more than enough.I cant stand for someone to say their so mistreated without looking at others situation's. By the way! The woman that said she didn't move into the noise the noise moved to her and she is a 52 year neighbor to the track.My math tells me the track was there first...

By: walkabout on 1/19/11 at 6:16

It saddens me that there is all this racial reference in the comments regarding the fairgrounds. The issues have nothing to do with race but are a major factor with a neighborhood's prosperity. After reading all of these comments, I feel that the majority of individuals speaking out in favor or against the racetrack and fairground land use not only need anger management sessions but a lesson in propriety as well.

By: vendor78 on 1/19/11 at 6:38

After last night's hearing, I am getting into the gas and charcoal grill business. Those District 17 prepsters sure do like to grill out in their backyards, don't they? I'll make a killin'. Look for me at this weekend's Flea Market.

As for Fred Agee, I don't know him to be a racist, and would not call him one here. But judging from his choice of venues in which to enjoy his music, I can tell he is the type that reads Playboy for the articles.

By: thetruthwillset... on 1/19/11 at 8:02

karlwithak - was the white resident approached by a large group of all "those that want to do away with the track" or a single misguided individual with the ridiculous plan you describe? There can be reasons for the Mayor, Council and citizens to want to find a better use for that property than the track than to somehow turn the property into some sort of whites only country club. The truth is clear: the track does not have a broad base of support, doesn't produce real jobs and doesn't produce real tax benefits. For the city government to allow that to continue is wasting a valuable asset. That's not to say there isn't a very small but very vocal minority that really love their urban, short track racing. That doesn't mean keeping the track makes sense. As others have noted, there have been many uses of the property over the years from a wonderful pool, amusement park and horse racing track that gave way to the auto track and fairgrounds. It is time for the auto track to give way now to a better use for the property.

Also, let's just agree that Fred Agee is not the designated spokesperson for the desire to put the land to a better use and we won't single out the best moron on the pro-racetrack side to make their mascot either. He may well be a raging racist, but he does not represent "those that want to move on from the track."

jasonweaver - I am very interested to see these examples of successful urban neighborhood - racetrack success stories. I proposed what I think would be an approach to take with an automotive-focused industrial business park, so I am not closed off to an idea that would achieve some measure of compromise toward preserving the track but enabling redevelopment of a well-sited property. You could move the Nashville Auto Diesel College over there as well. As a neighbor of the campus, I can tell you that crew likes to race on regular streets quite a lot. That said, there are many, many examples of successful urban infill around the country and right here in Nashville. PSC Metals would make a great site for redevelopment at some point, and has a history of underdevelopment for many of the same reasons as the fairgrounds, including being in a floodplain. Given that it is a brownfield and is privately owned, it is certainly less low hanging fruit for redevelopment and the mayor and the Council are not the stewards of that property, so the fact that it is going to a lower than optimal use may be regrettable but not a government issue. As a result, this is not an either/or between the two. The thermal site is a better example as it is government owned.

By: Hotshoe17 on 1/19/11 at 8:09

Stan H.
How many times do we need to ask this question? Was the Racetrack there when the Realtor Showed you, your property? Did he say "Just move in and we will figure out a way to get rid of that thing"?
Maybe you should have moved out by the Airport and maybe they would have moved that for you, or maybe a Railroad Track.
How Dumb can you be? If you think there might be noise there, then buy somewhere else................. Duh.

By: thetruthwillset... on 1/19/11 at 8:09

hey woodbineman - did you walk to school barefoot uphill both ways in the snow too?

By: thetruthwillset... on 1/19/11 at 8:14

vendor78 - Prepsters? Folks can buy affordable housing, take an interest in how it looks and grill out and not be Buffy and Tripp tailgating before heading to Steeplechase.

By: MAmom on 1/19/11 at 11:59

Thank you Metro Council for not demolishing the racetrack.

By: MAmom on 1/20/11 at 12:31

repost from the SCENE:

Mr. P, in response to your comment: "Also, surely I'm not the only person who noticed that speaker after speaker in support of the racetrack last night lived outside Nashville, while the opponents listed one nearby street address after another."
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Please watch the proceedings from Tuesday night again. When the District-17 and long-term Davidson County "red shirts" tried to enter the room to speak - Diane Neighbors WOULDN'T LET THEM IN. She told the "red shirts" the order they had to speak in.

And she didn't start with the front row of the Chamber. She didn't start with the people who came early so they could get a front-row seat & speak first. No, Diane Neighbors ORDERED the "red shirt" speakers to start with the back row of the chamber room.

MANY Fairgrounds supporters from DISTRICT 17 were lined up to speak outside the door. Behind them were MANY long-time Davidson County residents were lined up - ready to speak. Behind them were many Davidson County residents, and behind them were many out-of-county supporters. You did not eventually hear them all because, in deference to the Council, the public speaking portion of the meeting was cut short.

The "yellow shirts" were allowed to queue up the way they wanted. Leading with old ladies who were reading carefully-worded scripts. I believe the "yellow" shirts were part of SNAP - residents of South Nashville - not necessarily from District 17.

By: Funditto on 1/20/11 at 9:00

After seeing the seeing the council meeting, I'm going into cardiac care business. Those race lovers all looked on the verge of major heart problems.

By: bfra on 1/20/11 at 9:12

Fun - Rubes, boobs, heart problems? Sounds like you wasn't at the same meeting I attended. I did see a duppy looking woman in a yellow shirt, running around in the parking area writing down license #s, was that you are girlie?

By: bfra on 1/20/11 at 9:16

OOP! Make that you or girlie!

By: Funditto on 1/20/11 at 9:24

I wasn't there. From my view (at home) it looked like the opponents were much more articulate than the propenents. And the women from Louisville with the droopy cleavage? You can't deny she was "interesting." And I hope you know I'm not being mean spirited about all this - don't take it personal....it was just funny to watch ;-)