Governor defends state bill that overrides Metro anti-bias law

Wednesday, May 25, 2011 at 11:21am

Gov. Bill Haslam is defending his decision to sign legislation that nullifies Nashville’s new gay rights ordinance, saying “we just don’t think local governments should set HR policies for businesses.”

“I don’t think many Tennesseans feel like we don’t have enough mandates on businesses,” Haslam said Tuesday in Chattanooga at the opening of the Volkswagen plant. “This had the concurrence of 70 percent of the legislature.”

Conservative Christians were the main lobbying force behind the new state law. It also enjoyed the backing of the Tennessee Chamber of Commerce and Industry, but the group withdrew its support Monday as Haslam was considering whether to sign the bill into law. Several corporations, including Nissan and Whirlpool, had publicly condemned the legislation as gay rights activists mounted a public lobbying campaign demanding that the governor veto the bill.

The Metro Nashville ordinance bans discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity by companies doing business with the city.

“We thought a lot about this, because I don’t like state government telling local governments what to do,” Haslam told reporters. “But I also don’t think local governments should tell local businesses what to do either.

“We are not in favor of discrimination. I want to be real clear about that,” Haslam said. “We are in favor of businesses deciding within federal laws what their policy should be. We just don’t think local governments should set HR policies for businesses.”

48 Comments on this post:

By: pswindle on 5/25/11 at 9:39

Democrats wake up and take our state back.

By: foxeyes2 on 5/25/11 at 10:19

if Gov. Haslam doesn't believe in discrimination then he should have the Republicans pass a State law adding sexual orientation and gender identity to non-discrimination clause. He could also add it to the list included by the State of Tennessee in their hiring and firing status. I also wonder if Pilot and Flying J protect their LGBT workers? If not then he is being dishonest.

By: fmltn on 5/25/11 at 10:49

Haslam certainly believes in discrimination as long as it's his interests that are not being discriminated against.

By: lamons on 5/25/11 at 12:53

GreenHillsBoy

Simpleton Haslam is now owned by the right wing Tea Party and they will twist and manipulate the truth to suit their narrow minded agenda. The Fortune 500 companies, where 90% plus include anti-discrimination clauses that includes sexual orientation, will look very hard at providing any jobs for Tennessee. We already have a poor educations system, gross obeisity and health issues, now we are just fine with companies that discriminate....but we have guns in parks,schools, bars, can't say "gay" in schools and don't dare sell wine in grocery stores. Embarrassing and pathetic.

By: Loner on 5/25/11 at 4:11

Gov. Haslam is no intellectual giant; he's a born-again Christian theocrat working a political ministry. This joker has to go; he's bad for Tennessee and especially bad for Music City.

Politicians who think like clergymen are more suited to the Middle East, not the USA.

Send this knucklehead packing!

By: Loner on 5/25/11 at 5:03

Tennessee is performing a valuable service for the rest of the nation; it is now acting as a microcosm - an experiment from which Americans are learning what they could expect, if the Tea Party were to ever gain control of the White House and Congress.

Quite frankly, it's not a pretty sight.

The Volunteer State will soon be notorious for its Creationism in the Classroom, its Islamophobia and its homophobia.

As demonstrated in Tennessee, Tea Party control means Christian theocracy in governance and more Second Amendment ministries.

By: Radix on 5/25/11 at 9:49

Cut and paste much Loner?

By: Loner on 5/26/11 at 4:47

Paste THIS, A-hole!

By: GJL on 5/26/11 at 4:54

I'm proud of Governor Haslam for signing this bill into law. He made a stance for morality while upholding God's word regarding homosexuality. Homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God as it is for any true believer in Him. Governor Haslam knew he would be subjected to the flak he is receiving from many people yet he still had the integrity to sign the bill into law. Pity that we don't have more leaders in government to follow what God says. Recently Stacey Campbell also took a stance against homosexuality and I am proud of him also.

By: HokeyPokey on 5/26/11 at 5:23

By G~d let's just all take a stand against Ho-Mo-SEX-uality and all be proud of each other.

Then move on, we still have these darkies and immigrants to deal with, don't we?

HP

By: global_citizen on 5/26/11 at 6:02

GJL, your religious beliefs are not the basis of lawmaking in Nashville, in Tennessee, or the US. Believe it or not, some people don't share your little fantasy about some big man up in the sky. Some people see mythology for what it is. God is in your mind, and nowhere else.

It wasn't integrity that caused him to sign the bill. Maybe it was expediency, maybe it was to curry favor with the majority Republicans in the legislature. But integrity is the last thing you could call it.

And I assume you mean Stacey Campfield? Proving once again that the conservative religious right feel no need to actually know what they're talking about before spouting an opinion.

By: bepieper on 5/26/11 at 6:27

I wish people would stop pretending the state bill was about protecting business. It was about advancing a particular social agenda. Whether that's a good social policy or a bad one is another issue. Whichever side of that social issue you might be on, let's acknowledge what this is really about so that we can have a genuine conversation about it.

Whether I agree or disagree with their position, I appreciate the fact that commenters like GJL will acknowledge what this issue is really about, instead of pretending it's about protecting business. The only way to have a conversation that attempts to resolve differences is to begin by everyone being honest about what is really motivating them. I own a small business. Sometimes we do business with Metro. It absolutely would not be a burden to my business to agree not to discriminate against an employee because of his sexual orientation. I don't need this so-called "protection" for my business. But that point doesn't really affect the debate, because protecting business from burdensome regulation is not the real motivation behind this bill.

By: GJL on 5/26/11 at 6:43

global_citizen-- Yes you are correct. God is in my mind...He's also in my heart and soul. So is His Word which is ultimate law. There are millions of more people who hold the same beliefs as I do....sadly there are also millions who do not.
So I made a mistake in a person's surname...you obviously knew who I was talking about...I'm not perfect. The important thing is that Governor Haslam did stand up for what God teaches...as do some other lawmakers in this great country of ours.
As far as you thinking the "big man in the sky" is mythology, it will be interesting to see what your belief will be when you meet Him face to face. Sadly it will be too late then for you to change your mind.

By: wataboutbob on 5/26/11 at 6:49

That's good Radix! And when one has no intellectual argument one can always resort to name-calling.

By: HokeyPokey on 5/26/11 at 6:53

GJL, we all know that G~d said it, you believe it, and that settles it.

But not for many of the rest of us. Quit trying to cram your heterosexuality down our throats.

HP

By: Loner on 5/26/11 at 7:08

GJL, according to all accounts, Jesus never went on a date with a women; he surrounded himself with fawning males. Was Jesus a heterosexual virgin stud...or in the Hebrew closet? He never condemned homosexuality...brain-injured heretics, like Saul of Tarsus, schlepped that crap in to the New Testament. There is no legitimate spiritual authority that condones hatred, loathing and fear of homosexuals.

By: Kosh III on 5/26/11 at 7:11

Many early settlers to this country to avoid persecution. They did not wish to be compelled to conform to a religious opinion that they did not agree with.

This lesson is still unlearned by the religious bigots like Haslam, Ramsey and GJL.

Your insistance on using the coercive power of the state to compel religious conformity is anti-constitutional and un-American. Not to mention immoral and unethical.

By: tom on 5/26/11 at 7:45

tom
the most bunch of cry babies seem to post on here i have ever seen in my life. he was voted in office so get over it. further more we are tired of being forced believe the spew some of you on here want to always put in our face about being gay, several of us people of the great state of Tennessee are tired of it! we know yall are gay and you have rights so stop trying to force us into things that we dont believe in. we have right two. the second admin. of the Constitution was put in there for a reason, i have the right to keep a bear arms, lots of yall dont like that, too bad go wet your pantys some where else. since i see on here bashing of beliefs, somebody please answer me this, how can two gay folks make baby?

By: Loner on 5/26/11 at 7:50

Tom don't need no steenking teachers and no steenking guvmint schools...he damn sure don't need no steenking homos and no steenking homo agenda....Tom's a Haslam man.

By: jvh2b on 5/26/11 at 8:26

Tom -

Why do 2 gay folks need to make a baby? Should infertile people or sterile people not be allowed to marry...well lets put it in context...apparently they shouldn't enjoy govt protection from discrimination b/c god made them that way.

By: GUARDIAN on 5/26/11 at 8:38

GUARDIAN-Look if you are male and you love other men's penises in your mouth and rectum that's your business. If your a female and you love kissing other females and dining at the "Y" that's your business. "BUT" businesses shouldn't be forced to hire Qays if none work for them just to do business with the city of Nashville. NO NO NO don't start this is what the law was going to force businesses to do. San Fansucko started with this law that all business there had to have Qays and look what happen to that left coast state. f this truth hurts your feelings then bend over. :)

By: Ares1369 on 5/26/11 at 9:35

The loudest voices for Tolerance are the most In-Tolerant it seems. So all of you that feel this bill is Discriminatory you might want to actually do some reading on the bill. So Lets Take a Look at the So Called Anti-Gay Bills:

HB600 Here is the Official Bill Summary:
This bill prohibits any local government from imposing on any person an anti-discrimination practice, standard, definition or provision that varies in any manner from the definition of "discriminatory practices" under present law or other types of discrimination recognized by state law but only to the extent recognized by the state. Under present law, "discriminatory practices" means any direct or indirect act or practice of exclusion, distinction, restriction, segregation, limitation, refusal, denial, or any other act or practice of differentiation or preference in the treatment of a person or persons because of race, creed, color, religion, sex, age or national origin.

Under this bill, any such anti-discrimination practice, standard, definition, or provision imposed on any such person by a local government prior to the effective date of this bill would be null and void. The above requirements would not apply with respect to employees of a local government.

Additionally, this bill clarifies that with regards to discriminatory practices and human rights, "sex" means the designation of the person as male or female as indicated on the person's birth certificate.

In HB0821/SB1250 All this is saying is that The Taxpayer Funded Public Schools are not going to take positions on these issues, and any type of sexual preference.

In my opinion When it Comes to HB0821/SB1250 If you Do not have Children and those children are attending Tennessee Public Schools in the K-8 Brackets then you SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY SAY OR VOTE ON THE ISSUE WHAT SO EVER. If we parents do not want Homosexuality taught to our kindergarten students then that is were the choice should ultimately lay.

I do understand the emotional side of the argument. I agree that no one should be discriminated against.

By: jvh2b on 5/26/11 at 9:41

Not that Guardians response actually deserves and acknowledgement, but, if the gays/lesbians are doing said actions while at work, then there is an issue. HOWEVER, since they are not (ya know kinda like you NOT getting any from your wife while at work) then it has ZERO to do with their employment or ability to perform the job, and is therefore DISCRIMINATORY if you judge them based on what they do at home.

Or is that just to simple for you to get?

By: budlight on 5/26/11 at 11:21

Loner on 5/25/11 at 5:11
Gov. Haslam is no intellectual giant; he's a born-again Christian theocrat working a political ministry. This joker has to go; he's bad for Tennessee and especially bad for Music City. Politicians who think like clergymen are more suited to the Middle East, not the USA. Send this knucklehead packing!

Loner, what about your Gov? Is your Gov the best in the land?

Coronet magazine May 1968 an article by Dr. Samuel B. Hadden "The Homosexuals". Wow!

What I can't figure out is Who asks for sexual preference on a job application? If I interview for a job, it's my understanding that the interviewer cannot even ask me IF I'm married or have children because those questions are illegal.

But I do recall interviewing someone one time and when they shook my hand, the first thing out of their mouth was "I'm gay". My response was "Gee that's nice. I, too, am a happy person". Duh? Who cares?

I just wish we'd get serious about our country's welfare and pay attention to the real hard issues, such as infrastructure, transportation, clean water, healthy children and protection of pets.

By: pswindle on 5/26/11 at 11:56

Since the GOP has taken over in TN, the church bigots have their list ready to start changing the state as they want it. God help us all!

By: american1974 on 5/26/11 at 1:09

What kind of social engineering idiots create a law to protect a life style choice?
It's like creating a law to protect drunks, drug attics, or people
who like green over blue? It's a lifestyle choice that people move in and out
of in this country. Some people for life. Some for a night, some for years
and never go back.
For somebody who claims they are a drunk because their
father was drunk and it's genetic, it still requires action to be a drunk.
They have to pick up the beer, they have a choice whether to go in a bar. etc
If an employer does not like your lifestyle choice, he has every right to
get rid of you. If he does not like the look on your face on morning, it's his right
to fire you whenever he feels like it.
This country has no shame in anything. Hollywood has pushed every progressive
agenda, until there is no decent place to live. Marriage has been made a joke,
there is no family left for most, everyone is divorced, kids have no fathers,
suicide and drug use is out of control, everyone is depressed, nobody can keep a
relationship together or wants one, yet the progressives are still not happy. If we
only had even less morals, everyone would be happier?

By: gruntz on 5/26/11 at 2:19

Couldn't agree with budlight more. I have never seen a job application that asked what my sexual preferences are. It should never come up in a job interview. I don't care who you sleep with or what you do with them as long as it doesn't effect your ablity to do the job well. Why do gays need a law to enshrine the obvious? It is because they want to flaunt it and make everyone else swallow their beliefs. Gays need to leave their private matters out of the workplace and the schools. ;-)

By: budlight on 5/26/11 at 5:00

american1974 on 5/26/11 at 2:09
What kind of social engineering idiots create a law to protect a life style choice?
It's like creating a law to protect drunks, drug attics, or people
who like green over blue? It's a lifestyle choice that people move in and out
of in this country. Some people for life. Some for a night, some for years
and never go back.

The kind of social engineerying nuts who are in the White House at the present time.

Oh, you may have hit on something American. My dad was an alcoholic and gambler. I want to have some special privileges cause I might just be prone to his life style BECAUSE it's in my genes. Naw! I'll pass on that one.

Gruntz, you are so correct! Like I said "keep it to themselves" is something they don't get.

By: HokeyPokey on 5/26/11 at 8:46

My beloved spouse is in the TV room watching "Memphis Beat," as I type this

One interesting thing about "Beat" is that it's not shot in Memphis, not even in Tennessee, but rather around NOLA where the tax advantages for filmmakers lure work and workers from all over the country.

Now, I suppose you could make a case that the "conservatives" here don't want those movie and TV types in our fair state, what with their lustful ways and smokin' and drinkin' and I don't know what-all. Better to keep 'em out, I guess, while we're also driving away the home-grown talent we're educating at MTSU, and some of the for-profit art schools.

But, when you think about it, it's these hollywood types that could produce reel after reel of gay-rape-fantasy videos which I suspect would sell well to many of our louder corespondents in this story.

HP

By: Kosh III on 5/27/11 at 6:00

"What kind of social engineering idiots create a law to protect a life style choice?"

Choice? Like the special right of protection from discrimination given to those who CHOOSE a religious lifestyle??
Sexual orientation is innate, just like race or hair color.

Want more social engineering? Like how this state decides whom someone can or cannot marry? You conservatives demanded that the constitutution DICTATE this most personal of choices based solely upon your religious OPINION.

Gay people can not marry, thanks to bigots like you so they cannot be blamed when God said "I hate divorce says the Lord." Mal. 2:16

Why not social engineering to abolish divorce and make Adultery a crime?

"Woe unto you....hypocrites."

By: budlight on 5/27/11 at 7:12

Loner on 5/25/11 at 5:11
Gov. Haslam is no intellectual giant; he's a born-again Christian theocrat working a political ministry. This joker has to go; he's bad for Tennessee and especially bad for Music City.

Politicians who think like clergymen are more suited to the Middle East, not the USA.

Send this knucklehead packing!

Loner, you don't live here; you don't play or pay here; you don't worship here; you don't vote here. So stay out of Tennessee's business.

By: budlight on 5/27/11 at 7:17

global_citizen on 5/26/11 at 7:02
GJL, your religious beliefs are not the basis of lawmaking in Nashville, in Tennessee, or the US. Believe it or not, some people don't share your little fantasy about some big man up in the sky. Some people see mythology for what it is. God is in your mind, and nowhere else.

The female reporter who was held captive by terrorists (one male killed), along with other male journalists said that while she had never been really "religious", she "prayed" a lot while she was being held captive. Hmmmmmmmm! Wonder who she was praying "to"? Wonder who kept her from being raped? She said she thought she would be raped and was not.

Wonder if she will see the light and be more religious now? Or just pray more? Either way, global, who do you think non-believers turn to in time of severe crisis? They turn to God. And the good news is that God does not turn his back on them. He is eagerly awaiting to hear from all of us, you included. Be careful how you use your words against Him. Peace and love is possible.

By: Kosh III on 5/27/11 at 8:08

"Loner, you don't live here; you don't play or pay here; you don't worship here; you don't vote here. So stay out of Tennessee's business."

Well, I live here and my ancestors have lived here over 200 years, they came here to live as they saw fit--I'll like to do the same.
We don't need relgious based discrimination. I'll worship a Jesus who said "love one another" you can worship any way you wish, just don't use your belief system to "steal kill and destroy" the lives of law-abiding citizens who only want EQUALITY.

By: oldhickorytony on 5/27/11 at 8:16

Some great (and hilarious) posts here... and then there are the anti-gay "Christians"...

Just don't forget that it could always be worse.... it could have been Zach Wamp or Give em the boot Ramsey...

And then Bud Light shows up to give a religious talk? When will Miller Lite show up to show us the way to the eternal Light?

By: jvh2b on 5/27/11 at 9:26

Keep it to themselves huh?

Well how about you don't go parading around taking about your husband/wife and putting photos on your desk of them, do that and we won't talk about the people in our lives that mean so much and do the same.

If that is 'forcing' homosexuality on you...then you people need to see a shrink b/c you have issues.

All we want is to be like you and not have to hide the fact that the person we love is of the same gender, and not have to worry about being fired/discriminated against despite the fact we do a great job, and you just don't like it.

By: yogiman on 5/27/11 at 11:10

Loner,

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. So being an "up yonderer" what makes you think we Tennesseans want to know your opinion of our "state" government, especially when its constantly against it? To quote that old phrase; MYODB.

How about bitching to your fellow New Yorkers about your own damn government?

By: Kosh III on 5/27/11 at 2:20

yogi

In case you have not noticed, New York is the same COUNTRY as Tennessee and what happens in one is important to another.
Stop being so xenophobic and parochial.

By: yogiman on 5/27/11 at 4:31

NY and Tennessee are simply similar states, Kosh III.

They have different 'breeds" of citizens, different classes of government, different taxes.

Other than being on the same continent, what is their similarity? Climate? Different. Types of housing? Different. The only similarity I can see is they use the same brand of money.

By: fmltn on 5/29/11 at 11:41

"Loner, you don't live here; you don't play or pay here; you don't worship here; you don't vote here. So stay out of Tennessee's business."

Well, I DO live here and play and pay here and vote here. So it is my business what happens here. And this legislature, with its obsession with the stupidest and most counterproductive "legislation" to come down the pike in decades, is a disgrace, as is the governor who kowtows to them.

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