Marijuana eradication: Law enforcement takes on daunting task

Sunday, August 1, 2010 at 11:45pm
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Lt. Dennis Kent circles the helicopter in a slow turn about 300 feet over a Cumberland County landfill, a spot where he’s previously found what he’s looking for today.

The front doors are off the helicopter to allow a better shot for a photographer’s lens. A crosswind blows through the cockpit, followed closely by the loud chop of propellers smacking the breeze. Whiffs of rotting trash pass through the cabin.

Below, several shades of green coat the ground, and native plants of various shapes spot a hillside, but there’s no sign of the illicit target of today’s operation. Kent flies on.

Miles away, he slides the Bell Jet Ranger helicopter — painted in Tennessee Highway Patrol black and gold — back into the slow-spotting circle over a different green hillside, this one spotted with a few large, sun-bleached rocks.

“There it is, right next to that big, white rock. You see it?” the pilot asks, as he tilts the copter sideways for a better view.

No.

It takes trained eyes to spot marijuana plants from hundreds of feet above. Some pilots look for a shade of green that stands out from the other plants in an area. That can be tricky and unreliable. Kent is looking at the plant’s shape. That knowledge and ability — the keen eye — comes only from experience. From hundreds of feet up, this veteran pilot of the Governor’s Task Force on Marijuana Eradication spots a white dusting on the plants, the telltale sign of cultivation. Growers use the white powder Sevin Dust to keep bugs off their valuable crops.

With eyes on the prize, Kent notes the coordinates. The next move is the cavalry’s.

Ground control

The Tennessee Highway Patrol helicopters provide the air support for the task force, which was the result of an executive order signed by Gov. Lamar Alexander in 1983. The task force consists of members from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, the Highway Patrol, the Alcoholic Beverage Commission and the Tennessee National Guard, which also provides air support.

All of the agencies contribute ground resources, including vehicles and manpower, while the TBI (and periodically, the ABC) provides investigative resources. Local law enforcement organizations can also pitch in as needed.

The majority of the task force flights are concentrated during the summer growing months, but the force operates year-round and is constantly investigating grow operations throughout Tennessee, according to TBI’s T.J. Jordan. The group is split up into three teams — one for each division of the state.

The program is almost fully funded annually by $780,000 from the Drug Enforcement Agency’s Domesticated Cannabis Eradication/Suppression Program. That’s enough to cover the travel (including hotels and per diem), equipment and operational expenses for the task force, Jordan said. The only costs not covered are the regular salaries and use of the vehicles, which the state would be underwriting with or without the program, he said.

There’s a good reason the state gets federal cash for such a project. In 2005, the Office of National Drug Control Policy labeled seven states — California, Hawaii, Kentucky, Oregon, Tennessee, Washington and West Virginia — as the primary states for marijuana cultivation. They’re known as the “M7 states.” According to the National Drug Intelligence Center, which uses data from the TBI, Tennessee eradicated more than a half million indoor and outdoor marijuana plants in 2008. More than 350,000 of those came from one piece of terrain in Cocke County.

The intelligence center, citing 2008 data from the DEA, states “eradication of indoor and outdoor plants in Tennessee (539,370 plants) accounted for 7 percent of all plants eradicated in the United States (8,013,308).” That year only California (5,322,053 plants) and Washington (580,415) ranked higher.

In 2008, about 82 percent — or 442,351 plants — of Tennessee’s marijuana found and destroyed outdoors came from Cocke, Cumberland, Wayne, Lawrence and Hickman counties, according to TBI data provided to the federal government.

The same data showed that only about 100 indoor plants were rooted out in 2008.

Indoor eradication efforts come from law enforcement intelligence gathering and are much less frequent.

“The other side of it is that people are moving indoors when they grow pot,” Jordan said. “And when they do go indoors and grow pot, a lot of times they are growing the marijuana for the purpose of being to able to produce a higher THC content” — THC (or tetrahydrocannabinol), of course, is the chemical compound in marijuana that produces the “high.”

Marijuana usually stays at a steady price unless it’s hydroponically grown — using nutrient solutions instead of soil — with higher THC content, which can draw $3,000 to $5,000 per pound, Jordan said.

“Does our program impact the overall pricing of dope in Tennessee?” he asked rhetorically. “Probably not. It may affect the availability.”

So is it necessary to take to air with helicopters and arm teams of men on the ground to fight marijuana growing across the state?

Jordan is confident efforts to grow marijuana in Tennessee would spin out of control without a program such as the one he oversees.

“We’re a successful program,” he said. “We’re limited in resources. We’re not getting all of the dope that’s being grown in Tennessee — that’s a given.”

Wasted effort?

But then there are those who say the task force’s efforts are a waste of law enforcement resources that ultimately aren’t having the desired effect of curbing drug use and are unfairly criminalizing medical patients, whom they say can benefit from legal, monitored use of marijuana.

Paul Kuhn, who sits on the national board of NORML (the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws) and is a member of the organization’s Tennessee chapter, said eradication efforts don’t appear to have an effect on the drug’s overall availability.

“These programs have not been effective in curtailing supply in any state that I’m aware of,” Kuhn said. “It’s affected job creation, and no law enforcement agency is going to turn down federal money, so sure, when the feds from the DEA offer funds, a kind of free money, for eradication you buy your helicopters and send them up in the air. But are you really having a meaningful impact on curbing drug use? No, I don’t think so.”

Bernie Ellis, an epidemiologist with a master’s degree in public health education who now works with states and national organizations to create and promote legal medical marijuana programs, found himself the target of one such task force operation in August 2002.

“I grew and provided cannabis to essentially terminally ill patients for around 17 years,” Ellis said. “I decided that if I was going to grow it to use myself, which I did to help with fibromyalgia and degenerative joint disease in my hips and spine, if I was made aware of anyone else who needed it I would make it available to them free if I had it.”

Three days after Ellis said he refused to sell his marijuana to a local drug dealer (whom Ellis believes tipped off authorities), two of the task force’s helicopters and its men on the ground swooped in to raid his Maury County farm.

They found 7 to 8 pounds of usable marijuana on Ellis’ farm. For that amount, Ellis was sentenced to four years probation and 18 months in a Federal Bureau of Prisons halfway house in Nashville. Just last December, a court ruled he had to turn over to the feds 25 acres of his land worth between $150,000 and $200,000 for the marijuana found on it.

‘Illegal smiles’

As a public health epidemiologist, “Much of my professional work over the last 20 years has been researching substance abuse as a public health problem, so I really sort of have a foot in both worlds,” Ellis said.

He wrote and, along with Kuhn, spoke on behalf of the Safe Access to Medical Cannabis Act. The bill, which aims to create a tightly controlled yet patient-friendly state medical marijuana program, surprised its supporters with the dialogue it created in Tennessee’s House of Representatives last session. It floundered in the Senate, and its backers decided to pull back and regroup for another session with the understanding that it could take several years to get the bill passed.

According to NORML’s website, 14 states have legalized the use of medical marijuana. Ellis said another 14 states have pending legislation regarding the programs. California voters could take one step further Nov. 2 when they’ll vote on The Regulate, Control & Tax Cannabis Initiative of 2010, which would essentially allow anyone older than 21 to possess up to an ounce of marijuana for personal use and to grow up to 25 square feet of it per residence.

To Ellis, who believes at least the medical use of marijuana should be allowed, eradication programs are an unnecessary overreaction.

“This whole notion of things spinning out of control [without the task force’s efforts] — to me what’s out of control is the disproportionate nature of the relatively benign nature of cannabis versus the pretty Draconian response to cannabis.”

But Ellis doesn’t see the issue as one between law enforcement and pot growers.

“I know they’re doing their job, but I’d certainly rather they’d be spending their time arresting child abusers and drunk drivers than people who are suffering from illegal smiles, which is basically what pot is all about.”

After reassessing and strengthening the Safe Access bill, Ellis, along with Kuhn and other supporters will look to reintroduce the bill next legislative session.

Asked if legalizing marijuana would sweep the legs out from under the illegal drug trade and the money made by it, Jordan pointed to the illegal trade of prescription pills.

“Pills are legal all day long,” he said. “You can find them in your mom and dad’s medicine cabinet, in your medicine cabinet, in your grandma’s medicine cabinet. There’s still an illegal drug trade as it relates to pharmaceutical drugs.”

But as it is, Jordan and the task have a job. Marijuana, whatever it’s used for, is still illegal.

High stakes

In late June, a small convoy of task force members from the various agencies headed out from a staging area — this time it’s the Crossville Memorial Airport-Whitson Field — to the general location of where the pilots spotted pot plants before.

Four utility-sized pickup trucks play follow the leader, hauling trailers loaded with ATVs and coolers. The coolers are packed with water, tea, bread, turkey, roast beef, cheese, pickles, mustard, cookies, and so forth, because lunchtime could come in the middle of nowhere.

The vehicles are marked with stickers showing a pot leaf circled in red with a red bar crossing through the iconic image. On the back of a trailer, a large white sign reads “Police” in black lettering — just so there’s no confusion.

On this particular operation, Lanny Janeway leads the way, winding the convoy down state highways and back roads, and telling of dangers in the line of duty.

The value of each marijuana plant to its grower, along with the amount of time, money and energy expended, means sometimes growers go to great lengths to discourage or outright prevent the task force — or anyone else — from destroying their crops.

Task force agents face the potential for booby traps. Sometimes it’s a punji pit, a dugout hole filled with sharpened stakes pointed straight up and covered with leaves or brush. Sometimes it’s a tripwire connected to explosives; agents tripped one such device several years back, but brush and limbs smothered
the explosion.

Sometimes it’s a set of fish hooks hung at eye level. Sometimes it’s just a man with a gun.

During an operation in 2005, as Kent circled the Bell Jet Ranger over a crop, the grower decided to pop off some rounds into the side of the chopper. Under the hum of the engine and the whir of the blades, Kent didn’t realize he was a flying target until the ground crew radioed the information. The heat-packing grower apparently neglected to consider a possible nearby cavalry, which promptly moved in for the arrest.

Though the dangers can’t be written off, they’ve become less frequent over the years, as the task force continues to refine its operations.

“Because we’ve had issues with them in the past, we go into every patch like there’s a booby trap,” Jordan said.

Trailblazers

As the convoy snakes along the highway nearing the entry point, the chopper hovers overhead.

“There you are,” Janeway calls over the radio. “I’m out your left window.”

The eye in the sky gets a visual on the men on the ground and dictates the last few turn-by-turn directions off the highway, onto a dirt road, around a field and up a hill. Here, it turns out, is the best spot to park the trucks and unload the four-wheelers.

It’s the job of the task force pilots to guide the ground crews in through the path of least resistance, and they know they’ll hear about it afterward if the trek goes otherwise.

From a clearing along the dirt road, the men fire up the four-wheelers and set out for the pot patches with directions still coming from above. The four-wheelers plow over brush as deadfall — fallen tree trunks and limbs — and large, disguised rocks threaten to buck the riders. Soon the thicket is too dense for driving.

A few hundred feet in the air, the blanket of vegetation appeared relatively tame and manageable. It isn’t. From the ground, it becomes apparent the situation is drastically — painfully — different.

ABC Special Agent Cary Webb heads into the thick of the brush, reaching over his shoulder and grabbing the handle of his machete, a 2-foot-long blade of necessity for the trek ahead.

Even on this day, with temperatures in the upper 80s, gloves, long sleeves and long pants tucked into Danner boots with their high, stiff ankle supports and reinforced soles aren’t a bad idea. Copperheads don’t always yield their position to drop-in guests, Webb warns.

As he blazes a trail through the vegetation, it’s a slow, deliberate step-by-step march through blackberry briars and other prickly plants that reach out and latch onto clothing and skin without bias.

After a few pauses to redirect the path based on direction from the circling helicopter overhead, Webb reaches a small opening surrounding the big, white rock, and there it is: a patch of 13 six-foot-tall plants with the infamous leaves.

The marijuana plants are neatly arranged, glazed with Sevin Dust and encircled by chicken wire at their bases. All the hard work, by both the growers and the hunters, culminates unceremoniously with a few tugs and — rip — the plants disconnect from the ground with the roots intact. A few machete chops and the roots are left behind.

Webb lays the plants in a neat bundle and wraps them in twine. After a brief pause for breath, he shoulders the bundle and heads out the way he came, this time with the burden of the plants and a path only slightly visible from the trek in.

After dropping off the haul at the trucks, the task force must make another, steeper pass at a different patch a little further down the hill. That yields another bundle of 15 plants.

Is it worth it?

“What we generally say — and I think this is conservative,” Jordan said, “is that if one plant is eradicated basically that’s equivalent to a pound of pot. Cultivated marijuana like we’re getting generally sells for anywhere from $600 to $800 a pound.”

The numbers are conservative because a plant could yield more than a pound or the quality could dictate a higher value, Jordan said. But by crunching the numbers of an $800 plant multiplied by the 500,000 plants Jordan said the task force destroyed last year, the total hits roughly $400 million of street value.

“That’s the impact we’re having,” he said. “At the end of the day, the amount of money that we spend per pound of pot that we eradicate is about the least amount and best money you can spend for drug enforcement.”

But it’s still worth it for growers, obviously. If one plant can draw anywhere from $600 to maybe $1,000 based on yield and quality, a small crop could provide a nice supplemental income, a down payment or a steady supply for the grow-your-own contingency.

The down side for law enforcement is that prosecuting growers is difficult. It’s even a bit of a reward when a prosecution results from the discovery of an operation, because even finding a patch of marijuana not far from a building doesn’t make it easy to bring charges against someone.

For Jordan and the task force, it usually comes down to not only the location of the operation but also being able to prove a property owner was in on it or even knew about the operation, since growers don’t necessarily ask permission to grow illegal plants on someone else’s property.

One man made it easy a few years back, when agents found a few rows of pot growing alongside cucumber plants. Agents were able to pin down the grower by simply following the garden hose back to the house to which it was connected.

‘Drive-by dope’

For the task force’s last run of that June day, Kent guided the men on the ground to a spot not far off Interstate 40 and the roadside restaurant where the men had lunched on a previous trip to Cumberland County.

The trucks pull into a driveway and around the back of a house, where a small office and a large garage sit. A company that builds trusses occupies the two buildings, and behind the larger building there’s a hillside with a wide dirt clearing heading down it. On either side of it are tall patches of overgrown plants. At first glance, it’s just a bunch of perfectly legal overgrowth.

“They’re in pots,” says the voice from above.

As the men move in closer, black pots on the ground begin to appear through the overgrowth. The potted marijuana plants are ripped up and their roots are chopped off as the men stop to pop tart blackberries into their mouths, still making their way through the hillside patch.

It’s what the guys on the task force call “walk-up dope” or “drive-by dope,” no four-wheelers necessary. The plants are piled up, concentrating that distinct, pungent smell sometimes described as skunky, like the grass seats at a Lynryd Skynyrd concert.

There are about 30 plants in the pile: perhaps $24,000. As the men haul them back and toss them in the bed of one of the trucks, a large woman in a pink top and khaki shorts listens to Janeway as he explains who they are and why they’re there.

There’s a look of disbelief on her face while she stares into the truck bed full of pot. It’s not hers, she says. “Y’all can drug-test my whole family.”

The guys get back in their trucks and start to drive away. With a glance back at a car parked in front of the truss company, Janeway observes, “I’d say it was going to pay for that orange Challenger back there” — manufacturers’ suggested retail price for a base model 2010 Dodge Challenger: $23,695 — “or make a good down payment on it at least.”

Even still, the task force isn’t about prosecution per se. As the name of the program that funds it — the Domesticated Cannabis Eradication/Suppression Program — suggests, it’s about squashing the grow efforts before the illegal weed hits the market.

“Our effort in Tennessee on a day-to-day basis when we’re out there in the heat faced with the dangers of people getting hurt and possible booby traps,” Jordan said, “it’s our intention to make it a bad day for pot growers when we swipe their efforts before they make it to the streets.”

Landing prosecutions would be nice for the men who regularly put themselves on the line, Jordan said.

“But at least if we’re able to eradicate, or through our efforts cause somebody not to grow it because they don’t know when we might come swooping down on them, then we have suppressed marijuana growing.”

67 Comments on this post:

By: TakePrideInNash on 8/3/10 at 2:45

Yes Walter you can find articles all over the internet that support the drug, but not any of them are truly backed up by medical data. Just people who want to be able to get high and not have to worry about the law, at least not until they kill an innocent person.

By: Papa T on 8/3/10 at 2:53

Morons are people who believe they can legislate thought. Morons are people who believe that more laws prevent ever-increasing populations of morons. If more laws prevented stupidity, we'd live in one of the most intelligent and enlightened societies in history.

I would venture to say that you have seen 'not good things' that have resulted from irresponsible behavior. IF a person chooses to 'get high', then that person should have the right to get high. IF that person is getting high to avoid facing reality -- or as a result of some pathological irresponsibility -- then there are other stimuli leading to the behavior. IF these pathologically irresponsible people cannot get high (i.e. escape, avoid) in one way, they WILL do it in another.

Mr. or Ms. TakePrideInNash, I am not ignoring the facts, nor am I an idiot. Your personally directed declarations only show your desire that other people see things the way YOU see them, or accept -- as 'fact' -- that which you have chosen to believe.

I have seen first hand what subjectivity, submission, and an unwillingness to expand one's scope of reference can do. And it's not good.

By: Walter Sobchak on 8/3/10 at 3:02

TakePride,

Most of these articles are peer-reviewed, blinded medical studies and abstracts from data being collected and research being conducted at some of the finest medical research facilities around the world. This is what I do. Medical research focused on the cellular-level anti-oxidative effects of certain compounds. THC is one of those compounds and has shown more medical promise than any other un-altered natural compound.

Like I said, google it if you're not closed-minded.

By: Walter Sobchak on 8/3/10 at 3:07

Nicely written PaPa T.

By: TakePrideInNash on 8/3/10 at 3:15

If they ever prove that it has medical effects then it should not have to be smoked to make a person well. They can put it in a pill and can ONLY be obtained by prescription. Then you don't have to worry about the smoke in your lungs and getting cancer. But that would take away the REAL reason people want it to be legal, to get high. Walter I'll take common sense any day.

By: Walter Sobchak on 8/3/10 at 3:23

It doesn't have to be smoked to be effective as an analgesic, appetite stimulant, anti-oxidant etc.

It also doesn't have to be smoked to get high.

It's been made into pill form, tincture form, vapor form..............

Common sense would dictate that you speak to terminally ill patients who rely on this substance to eat, sleep, walk, ease muscle cramps from ALS, MS or any other chronic or terminal condition before making such a statement.

You should probably also ask Willie Nelson why he's still alive.

By: TakePrideInNash on 8/3/10 at 3:23

A great man once said and I'll paraphrase, if they won't listen just shake the dust off your feet and go on down the road.

By: dangerlover on 8/3/10 at 3:27

So what if people want to get high? That's not the point. The point is that there is no good reason for it to be illegal. And yes, your "article" is crap. It is total fearmongering BS written for stupid parents who need something to tell their kids to scare them away from weed. You don't have to smoke it, by the way. You can cook with it, or use a vaporizer, which is the medically preferred method.

By: Papa T on 8/3/10 at 3:41

Look, TPIN, maybe I can put it another way.

Are you a proponent of 'hate crime' legislation? Do you actually think that such legislation can 'control' (or reduce, or eliminate) hate? Or the crimes that might be committed because of hate? [These are rhetorical questions...no need to answer them directly.]

We HAVE HAD laws on the books since before the founding of our country that addressed threatening acts, assault, and homicide. Such laws dealt with the BEHAVIOR of the people who perpetrate crimes. Aside from the need to establish 'intent' in certain crimes, there was no effort -- or need -- to determine the other factors that motivated the perpetrator. As our criminal justice system became increasingly politicized and dollar driven, penalties were softened. More laws were introduced. The alleged 'purpose' of these laws was to hold people 'more accountable' for their actions. As this process continued, there actually was less personal accountability, more illegal activity, and more irresponsibility. The more we allow others to do our thinking for us, the stupider we become -- both individually and on the whole.

It was only in the first part of the 20th century that our 'wise leaders' decided to impose laws to specifically restrict the use and sales of 'drugs'. Many of the reasons given (not that they were actually reasons) were similar to your stated reasons for opposition to marijuana. I humbly and firmly submit that this process is analogous to the 'hate crime' issue. Just as 'hate' is not the problem that is successfully addressable in law, the drugs are not the problem. The problem is human behavior...the actual things that people DO. Just as hate crime legislation will do NOTHING about hate, drug laws -- no matter how many we have -- will not solve the problems that result from drug use.

The 'new' drug laws (of the early 20th century) did not stop drug use; it only forced it underground and started the steady increase in prices and the trail of death and misery that we have seen since as various factions battle over supplying a never-ending demand. Of course the so-called justice system -- which I prefer to call The Justice Industry -- welcomes this. The resulting demand for more police, more attorneys, more jailers, more jails, more prisons, more guards, more judges, more courtrooms, more equipment, more support staff, more, more, more is soaking the lifeblood out of the taxpayers in our once great land. I used to be a part of that industry. If you believe that you are safer because of 'more, more, more government', you are sadly mistaken.

The bigger this pile of inefficient, arrogant, ineffective, controlling stuff gets, the more devastating will be its fall. And fall it will. And after it falls, even you might want to get high.

By: TenaseHB on 8/4/10 at 4:40

It is telling that only one person chooses to defend the status quo re: marijuana prohibition on this thread, and chooses to do so while ignoring what other posters have said. The fact is that every national and international commission that has ever studied cannabis for the past 150 years (including a commission appointed by Richard Nixon in the early 70s and the more recent Institute of Medicine commission whose findings were published in 1999) have recognized the medical uses of cannabis and the relatively benign effects of using the drug recreationally. All of these commissions have recommended reducing or eliminating legal penalties for its use.

And yet here we are, in the no-longer-early 21st century, still acting as if cannabis were equivalent to heroin and PCP (the only place that is true is in our nation's Controlled Substance Act). Part of the reason this continues has to do with protecting existing markets. In my county, all the drugs and assorted vice were controlled for decades by a corrupt judge. In the county north of me, the king-pin was the sheriff. And yet neither of these men ever received a visit from the Marijuana Task Force or any other branch of law enforcement. Likely because they were (and are) all in on the deal.

When a neighbor's farm was raided a few years ago, the Task Force intentionally left plants growing on my neighbor's farm. After a few days, two Task Force members came back to the farm (they were seen by another neighbor) without a warrant, cut through my neighbor's fence and took the remaining pot. That pot never made it to the crime lab. How's that for "out of control"?

If we want to reduce crime (and law enforcement corruption) in this country, a good place to start would be to remove cannabis from Schedule 1 of the Controlled Substance Act, and then tax, regulate and control its distribution. Yes, there might be some diversion from the legal system as there is now with legal pharmaceuticals. (Just ask the former Willamson county sheriff just how profitable those Lortabs were on the streeet.) However, we don't ban all prescription drugs because some people abuse them, and we have sense enough not to try to prohibit alcohol again because it makes some people dangerous ass-hats.

More illegal smiles and fewer gun-toting, civil-rights-trampling "drug worriers". That's the ticket.

By: dangerlover on 8/4/10 at 7:43

Well put Papa T and TenaseHB.

By: AmyLiorate on 8/4/10 at 7:59

TakePride is just another one of those Democrat types that just think they need to control everything in your life.

Why? Because they know better what you should do or not do. You're too stupid to figure these things out and they are the baby sitter with the proper plan. It's all best for you, right TP?

If we look at the facts we will find that half the country, that's about 150 million people, have smoked pot. But they don't all smoke it. It's not because they went to rehab to kick the habit. Pot isn't addictive.

They didn't all quit just because it's illegal either. They just decided it wasn't for them. Why to we want to put so many of our young people in jail for this little weed?

Is it really necessary for them to all get criminal records over this? How does that affect them when hunting for a decent job several years later?

By: worldwidechuck on 8/4/10 at 5:09

We will end this marijuana mindlessness some year soon and looking back we'll see it for the waste is has been. That our government would be concerned with you having a beer is as equally idiotic as worrying about me smoking a joint while responding to this article!

Here is a voice from our past!

In 1932, wealthy industrialist John D. Rockefeller stated in a letter:

" When Prohibition was introduced, I hoped that it would be widely supported by public opinion and the day would soon come when the evil effects of alcohol would be recognized. I have slowly and reluctantly come to believe that this has not been the result. Instead, drinking has generally increased; the speakeasy has replaced the saloon; a vast army of lawbreakers has appeared; many of our best citizens have openly ignored Prohibition; respect for the law has been greatly lessened; and crime has increased to a level never seen before."

By: dargent7 on 8/4/10 at 6:34

Oh, Christ....just smoke a doobie, put on a Beatles record, get a pint of Haggen Daz, or Ben & Jerry's, and enjoy. What's the problem?

By: meex on 8/4/10 at 7:06

burning the $780,000 would be a better idea than burning the plants, as it would put a dent in inflation. I honestly think that people deserve to die by falling into booby traps, because it is really simple to not die from them, don't raid the plants, and you won't fall into booby traps. Legalizing any drug, (even heroin) will not cause more addicts. Ask yourself the question, If heroin were legal tomorrow would you go out and try it? OK neither would I, so how did anything change? People have to decide not to do drugs, the Law is not a motivation. For people who say it has health effects, I know it isn't great for you, but neither are cigarettes. They do nothing but kill you, and we allow their sale every day. For those of you who don't want it legal, DON'T USE IT. I'm not going to use it, but I still think it should be legal. Who is victimized by marijuana being legal? You cannot have a crime without a victim (the victim can't be yourself, if it is you need to get help, not go to jail. People who attempt suicide need help, not prison.) The only possible victim could pretty much be yourself. People who are using marijuana, are zoned out, they are not prone to kill people like crack addicts.

By: meex on 8/4/10 at 7:06

burning the $780,000 would be a better idea than burning the plants, as it would put a dent in inflation. I honestly think that people deserve to die by falling into booby traps, because it is really simple to not die from them, don't raid the plants, and you won't fall into booby traps. Legalizing any drug, (even heroin) will not cause more addicts. Ask yourself the question, If heroin were legal tomorrow would you go out and try it? OK neither would I, so how did anything change? People have to decide not to do drugs, the Law is not a motivation. For people who say it has health effects, I know it isn't great for you, but neither are cigarettes. They do nothing but kill you, and we allow their sale every day. For those of you who don't want it legal, DON'T USE IT. I'm not going to use it, but I still think it should be legal. Who is victimized by marijuana being legal? You cannot have a crime without a victim (the victim can't be yourself, if it is you need to get help, not go to jail. People who attempt suicide need help, not prison.) The only possible victim could pretty much be yourself. People who are using marijuana, are zoned out, they are not prone to kill people like crack addicts.

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