Metro will hire firm for Sounds stadium study, to pay $157K

Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 1:29pm

Metro has agreed to hire Kansas City, Mo.-based Populous, a consulting firm that specializes in sport facilities, to conduct a feasibility study on a new Nashville Sounds ballpark that includes analyzing and recommending potential sites for a stadium.

According to Mike Spore of Metro Purchasing, the city has agreed to pay Populous $157,000 to conduct the study. Five other companies made bids for the project. Populous is an international company with a Nashville office and is known for stadia design.

Populous, formerly known as HOK Inc., has worked on several notable baseball stadiums across the nation including AT&T Park in San Francisco, Busch Stadium in St. Louis, Nationals Park in Washington D.C., and PETCO Park in San Diego.

Jim Fyke, former state Department of Environment and Conservation commissioner who is now working in the Metro Finance Department Office, said the contract with Populous wouldn’t be finalized until a few more weeks.

Fyke, the point person from Metro’s end on the study, said he expects the analysis completed by the late fall.

“The Sounds will be included as part of the process,” Fyke said. “They won’t be a decision-maker in it, but they certainly will be used to find out what would accommodate their needs.”

Mayor Karl Dean’s administration has commissioned the study following two years of lobbying by Nashville Sounds’ management for a new downtown park to replace outdated Greer Stadium.

The administration has said it plans to use the study to dictate whether a new stadium is needed, where it should go and how it should be financed, among other things. Community input is supposed to help guide final recommendations.

Sounds owners covet the 11-acre former thermal plant site in the SoBro (south of Broadway) area near the Cumberland River. Dean has expressed interest for a new ballpark to locate at the former site of Sulphur Dell, Nashville’s long-demolished historic ballpark that sat northeast of the state capitol building.

Other sites bandied around include the East Bank of the Cumberland and properties near Music City Center.  

29 Comments on this post:

By: gdiafante on 6/30/11 at 11:39

Shouldn't the Sounds pay for the study?

By: Kosh III on 6/30/11 at 12:22

Amen!
The Sounds should pay for the study, the land, the stadium, everything.

By: BigPapa on 6/30/11 at 12:50

Darn $157K would sure pay for a lot of those Metro emoployee that were laid off over the past few years, or help the schools fund clubs, sports, physical improvments... I can think of about 157,000 better uses for that money.

By: bfra on 6/30/11 at 1:44

As King Karl said, us peons (taxpayers) are not on a level to talk to him. So, we have to have Kansasians to tell up how, to the tune of $157K. Anybody see the irony in this? We also need trash, garbage & srorm debris cleaned up, wonder if the King will allow us peons to do that?

YES! The sounds should be paying the $157K, but, they might find someone locally with enough brains and that wouldn't further Karls, ego boosting trips, with his blank checks on taxpayers.

By: relliott on 6/30/11 at 2:04

If the Sounds owners want a new stadium, why should the taxpayers foot the bill for the study? Another jewel in King Karl's crown?

By: left on 6/30/11 at 3:30

Did you know that metro spent 1.4 million dollars on three different studies for the convention center. had to pay the right group to approve this half billion dollars that you TAXPAYERS IN DAVIDSON Co. will be paying for FOREVER,FOREVER,FOREVER!

By: govskeptic on 7/1/11 at 4:27

Taxpayers handing out 157K for what will probably be a cut and paste study/report
as so many of these type firms wind up providing?

By: Community-carl-... on 7/1/11 at 6:29

What a waste of taxpayers' money. Regardless of what the Sounds' management says, I personally have found Greer stadium to be perfectly adequate for their needs. Sure, a shiny new stadium would be wonderful.......and I would love a new luxury car, but I don't have the money........ditto for Metro RE: a new baseball stadium. You would think Dean would learn from our bankrupted federal government.

Speaking as a retired Metro employee who was forced into retirement by Dean's departmental budget cuts last year, all I have to say at this point is, I feel the urge to
puke.

By: Magnum on 7/1/11 at 7:07

I'd like them to spend $157k to figure out how to correct downtown interstate traffic. Now that is a use of taxpayer dollars I'll support.

By: richgoose on 7/1/11 at 7:23

This study could have been done for between 15 and 25,000 dollars. Anyone with knowledge of minor league baseball would have picked Culleoka as the logical place for this team.

By: Kosh III on 7/1/11 at 7:24

"Jim Fyke, former state Department of Environment and Conservation commissioner who is now working in the Metro Finance Department Office, said the contract with Populous wouldn’t be finalized until a few more weeks"

Don't forget that Fyke was hired for part-time work and is being paid 60 thousand a year to do whatever the frak it is that he does.

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Magnum. Great idea. I'd gladly support paying to relieve traffic congestion and parking downtown.

By: Cookie47 on 7/1/11 at 8:22

I agree with gdiafante and Kosh. Why are we paying for any of this?

“The Sounds will be included as part of the process,” Fyke said. “They won’t be a decision-maker in it, but they certainly will be used to find out what would accommodate their needs.”

The Sounds have input but not the final say. Does that mean if they don't like the facility once it's finished, they can either stay where they are, leave Nashville, or build their own facility? Any of these three scenarios leaves the tax payers holding the mortgage on an empty stadium.

The Sounds should pay for the study, the land, and the facility as well as its upkeep after it's built.

By: TNReader on 7/1/11 at 8:30

In a normal situation the Sounds should pay for the study. However, the Mayor knows where he wants the stadium, and wants the study to reflect that location. If the Sounds don't get to pick the location, they should not have to pay for a structure at a location that they believe may not be successful.

By: bfra on 7/1/11 at 8:38

When are people going to wake up and vote AGAINST "whatever Karl wants, Karl gets" and get rid of Karl. We, the taxpayers, can't afford him!

By: skeptic1 on 7/1/11 at 9:10

They must be stupid, stupid, stupid. He's got the CPD (Career Politician Disease) which manifests as the politicians' mindset that "If I can think of a project where I can control who gets contracts, the taxpayers can find a way to pay. After all, those stupid taxpayers owe me a living."

By: anxious on 7/1/11 at 9:14

I think we should pay $157K to find a replacement for Karl Dean.

By: bfra on 7/1/11 at 9:42

If taxpayers could buy Karl for what he himself (not his rich wife) is worth & sell him for what he thinks he is worth, our money problems would be greatly solved.

By: vance44us on 7/1/11 at 12:12

Do you people even want the Sounds to stay here? If so, why not come to the ballpark and show that it is fine where it is now. It is a very nice stadium, but is very often a victim of poor attendance. If they are going to draw the same crowds with or without a new stadium then this is all a huge waste of time and money. Show your support for this team and the old stadium!!!

By: BigPapa on 7/1/11 at 12:12

What is the chance the study comes back and says "no, the best use of this site would be for (insert anything other than a ball field)."? I say less than a 1% chance.

By: judyboodo@yahoo.com on 7/1/11 at 1:32

vance44us, no the Sounds are not going to draw the same crowds that they have now because a new stadium will mean significantly higher prices. That eliminates some of the fans that now go to Greer because it is affordable for them. It would be impossible to keep the same ticket structure with a new stadium...UNLESS...wait for it... THE TAXPAYERS MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE! They will ultimately have smaller crowds.

By: Xemo on 7/1/11 at 1:54

It doesn't matter what the voters want, this is just like the convention center and hotel. The deal is already done and we have nothing to say about it. Watch what happens to the fairgrounds fiasco. No matter how it looks now the fairground is going. That deal has been promised and it's going to happen come hell or high water.

By: bfra on 7/1/11 at 2:23

By: Xemo on 7/1/11 at 2:54

It doesn't matter what the voters want, this is just like the convention center and hotel. The deal is already done and we have nothing to say about it. Watch what happens to the fairgrounds fiasco. No matter how it looks now the fairground is going. That deal has been promised and it's going to happen come hell or high water.
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Unless, enough voters realize how they are being duped by Karl & bunch and vote him OUT! Taxpayer's can't afford his ego boosting dreams!

By: vance44us on 7/1/11 at 6:56

judyboody, dang, I laughed typing that...It does not mean that at all. The ticket price are right in line with others,and cheap by most standards. Not to mention they have cheap parking already. The prices will not go up. They just need community support! GO TO A GAME!

By: ripvw96 on 7/2/11 at 9:00

Ask the city of Memphis what they think of a nice downtown ball park, worked out well for them! It would be Metro's stadium and Metro stands to make millions on tax revenue, that is why they are paying for the study. The Sounds would be locked into a long term lease and pay a large portion of the construction cost. This is a perfect Triple-A market and a nice park in a good location could be an economic boost to the city. This is a no brainer, now the convention center....

By: yucchhii on 7/2/11 at 9:52

yucchhii To BFRA: If you think about it, we're NOT on a level to talk to him...I'll bet you think I'm agreeing with him...NOT entirely, this is what I'm saying...the reason we're NOT on a level to talk to him "SHOULD BE" that "WE" the people are the boss and "HE" is a "PUBLIC SERVANT!" "WE" the people, produce "HIS" paycheck! "WE" the people "ARE ABOVE HIM!" I don't care "WHO HE THINKS HE IS!" This is CUT AND DRY AND PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!! "WE" the people, should be writing to him and "REMINDING HIM OF THIS!" One at a time will not do it...it SHOULD BE ALL OF US AT A TIME!!! His INBOX should be bursting at the seams with emails from "US, WE THE PEOPLE!!!"

By: bfra on 7/3/11 at 6:03

yucchhii - I agree with what you are saying, however, I don't think Karl was. lol

By: joe41 on 7/3/11 at 11:54

I am surprised at so many small minded people who read the CityPaper. At first, I thought it was the Knoxville City Paper because they don't support anything and don't have anything except what the state or federal government has given them. I just visited Omaha where they have a beautiful new stadium. Guess who paid for that. Guess who paid for a magnificent TDAmeritrade Park? Get with it folks. If you want anything, you have to have people like Karl and Phil to help you realiize the dream. If you don't want progress, move to Knoxville where they don't have anything resembling a sports team outside of state financed UT.Joe

By: JayBee56 on 7/3/11 at 9:40

Is it the job of local government to bankroll something that private business will not do and that is not for the public use and/or the public good? Apparently "progress" doesn't happen without spending taxpayer money without taxpayer input. Let's get off this train of runaway "progress" before we have nothing left. James Keeton for Mayor - www.jameskeeton.com

By: localboy on 3/23/12 at 9:02

Here's a cautionary update to this tale:
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/mar/23/stadium-for-sale/?partner=popular
A portent of things to come??