Reaction mixed in Tenn. over gay marriage ruling in U.S. Supreme Court

Wednesday, June 26, 2013 at 2:29pm
Updated 1:46 p.m.

A Nashville attorney who married her wife a year ago in Washington, D.C., said she is thrilled with the U.S. Supreme Court decision on the Defense of Marriage Act.

Julia Tate watched coverage of the court with Lisa McMillan on Wednesday morning at their home and said everyone should have equality.

"Everyone should be treated the same on the federal level," Tate said. "On the state level, we still have work to do."

Voters in a 2006 referendum passed the Tennessee Marriage Protection Amendment, which specifies only a marriage between a man and a woman can be legally recognized in the state. It was approved by 81 percent of the voters in that election.

Asked whether she were disappointed the court did not go further in its ruling that the federal government must provide benefits to gay couples in states where same-sex marriage is legal, Tate didn't fault the justices.

"I think it's probably wise to be cautious," she said. "Our courts ought to follow us, not lead."

In a separate ruling, the court threw out California's ban on same-sex marriages.

Russell Moore, president of the Nashville-based Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, said he was not surprised by the court's ruling on the Defense of Marriage Act, per se, but he was surprised by the "sweeping language" used by the majority.

"It grounds the decision in equal protection and uses language of human dignity that has far-reaching implications," he said. "...Ultimately it's headed toward challenging the way states define marriage."

Asked about the Southern Baptist Convention's views on marriage, Moore said, "We believe marriage wasn't designed by a government bureaucracy. ...It's pre-political, designed by God and embedded in nature."

State Sen. Jim Tracy (R-Shelbyville) who is running for Congress, also was troubled by the ruling, saying the nation was built on what he called the traditional family.

"There are detrimental forces in our culture that reject or do not recognize the importance of the traditional family unit in our society and those forces won today," Tracy said.

U.S. Rep. Jim Cooper (D-Tenn.) said he was pleased by both rulings.

"Equality under the law should apply to all Americans, and now we're one step closer toward fulfilling this promise," Cooper said.

Hedy Weinberg, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee, said DOMA was the last federal law on the books that mandated discrimination by the federal government because of sexual orientation.

"Today marks the beginning of the end of official discrimination against lesbians and gay men and an important step forward in achieving equality for all Tennesseans," Weinberg said.

51 Comments on this post:

By: BigPapa on 6/26/13 at 2:24

I was figuring we'd have 100 posts quoting the bible and talkin about the 2nd coming, sodom and gamora, and the dangers of men wanting to marry their dogs..

By: TITAN1 on 6/26/13 at 8:13

Thank God I live in Tennessee!

By: HamBoneHamBone on 6/26/13 at 8:38

So, Titan, is that just because you love the great state and wanted to express that love, or something else? Wondering how today's Supreme Court ruling combined with you living in some OTHER state would make your personal life different. Do you like living in Tennessee because it denies equal protection under the law? Do tell.

By: govskeptic on 6/27/13 at 5:22

Justices Kennedy and Roberts are the same man in two different suits.

By: i.am.a.taxpayer on 6/27/13 at 7:22

It is so strange that the right wing people (who claim to abhor government regulation) are the supporters of laws to regulate many personal aspects of individual behavior.

For those who oppose same-gender marriage, the solution is simple. If you oppose it, do not marry someone of the same-gender. Then go on about your own business.

We have real problems in the U. S. and all across Tennessee, but the regulation of who can get married is not one of the real problems.

By: TITAN1 on 6/27/13 at 7:51

I oppose same sex marriage because it is against God's will. That is my reason. Now if you are for it, that is your choice, just like it is their choice to live that lifestyle, so knock yourself out.

By: NewYorker1 on 6/27/13 at 8:01

TITAN1 said "I oppose same sex marriage because it is against God's will". I hate to tell you this sweetie, but you are NOT God. The truth is you are opposed of same sex marriage because you are ignorant and prejudice. PERIOD!

By: NewYorker1 on 6/27/13 at 8:07

My question to you is, who in the fuc_ are you to judge anybody? At the end of the day, you are a none MF'en factor so get over it, live your life, and stop judging other people.

By: TITAN1 on 6/27/13 at 8:12

NewYorker1, if you don't mind, the next time you want to make a statement like that, please lead with "First of all I just want to say that I do not believe that God is our creator and that Jesus did not die for our sins, and that the Bible is not the word of God". Then I could stop reading at that point. There would be no reason to read any further.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/27/13 at 8:24

TITAN, did you ever get back to us regarding the contradictions in the Bible? Either way, the Treaty of Tripoli states that the U.S. is NOT a Christian nation and we do have separation of church and state. Believe what you want but don't push it onto other people.

By: jsabrown on 6/27/13 at 8:39

Titan, claiming to know God's will is the very definition of taking God's name in vain.

I would never insist that you follow the dogmatic teachings of MY religion, so I think it's the height of arrogance that you should expect me to obey yours.

By: NewYorker1 on 6/27/13 at 8:46

I believe in God, but reality is reality. You can preach and teach all you want, but the fact still remains that gay relationships exists and will continue to exist. They are tax paying, law abiding citizens of this country. If you don't want to give them to same rights, then stop forcing them to pay taxes that ALL of us benefit from.

Furthermore, you do NOT want me to get started on the church. There's more sinning going on in the churches than anywhere else. You can get more booty in the church than you can get from going to a night club. I'm just keeping it 100. I'm not telling you what I've heard, I'm telling you what I've seen and experienced myself. So, don't give me that church crap. That's the biggest hustle going on.

By: jsabrown on 6/27/13 at 9:24

*snicker* Funny how Titan openly threatens to stick his fingers in his ears and singsong "lalalalalalalalaIcan'thearyoulalalala" the moment someone doesn't agree to his dogma. I wonder if Mommy sends an extra pair of britches to school with him in case he has an accident.

By: Kosh III on 6/27/13 at 10:53

"I oppose same sex marriage because it is against God's will."

Could you please cite exactly what Zeus said about it? Or his boyfriend Ganymede?
Buddha?
Bacchus?

But if you want to stick to the Bible, please tell us about Abraham who married his SISTER!

By: ancienthighway on 6/27/13 at 10:55

I won't claim to know about God's will, but the Catholic Church had a uniting ceremony for same gender unions that was used up until the 14th Century. It fell out of use then because no children came from the homosexual marriage, meaning less peasants to work the fields for the nobles, who contributed wealth to the Church.

Saints Sergius and Bacchus are believed to have been homosexuals and joined in union by Christ in Heaven. St. Sebastian is also believed to have been gay.

It appears the Church supported homosexual marriage up until the time it realized there is more money in bigotry.

By: Kosh III on 6/27/13 at 12:18

It wasn't just the roman church, the Eastern Orthodox churches had a rite of same-sex union as well, it continued in use in some remote areas until hte 18th century.

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As to the absurd notion that Christians are being persecuted because they oppose gay people---didn't one of their own say "ye reap what ye sow?"
What has the Church sown? "Kill a Queer for Christ" "AIDS is God's punishment for homosexuality" etc etc

By: TITAN1 on 6/27/13 at 12:19

Kosh, you are talking Old Testament and even before the law of Moses. This was not prohibited before the Ten Commandments. Then, when Jesus died on the cross, the new covenant began and that is what we live by. The Old Testament was accurate history. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a good debater that is why I study the Bible and enjoy classes taught by those who know it inside and out. Listening and then studying for myself is wonderful. I don't force anyone to believe in God. We don't hate the sinner, we hate the sin. None of us are perfect, but we have to repent of our sins and try not to keep repeating those sins. Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. I will not support passing a law that promotes something that is against God's will. But, if you want to that is your right. Got to go, have a blessed rest of the day.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/27/13 at 1:15

TITAN, you assume the people who are teaching you "know it inside and out" and are not giving you their opinion of it? I'd think if you're going to believe something so completely you would have come to that conclusion by reading it yourself. BTW, you can separate what you think others should have the constitutional RIGHT to do even though you may not agree with it on a spiritual level. For instance, say you are opposed to drinking - can't you still agree that it should be lawful for others to do it even if you choose not to?

By: fair_minded on 6/27/13 at 1:52

TITAN1 - you admit that the old testament is basically "accurate history", and that a new covenant begin upon Jesus' death, so apparently you're not basing your opinion on the old testament, but on the new. Can you quote or show us the chapter/verse where Jesus prohibits relations between the same sex or says that God forbids it??

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/27/13 at 2:29

fair_minded, I doubt he knows. He'll have to go ask his Bible class teacher.

By: TITAN1 on 6/27/13 at 6:39

fair-minded, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

New Living Translation (NLT)

9 Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 10 or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people—none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. 11 Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

The apostle Paul wrote these words. The apostles were appointed by Jesus, the son of God. God authorized what Jesus and the apostles taught. What the apostles teach is just as important as what Jesus teaches. It is all authorized by God. God wants us to repent of our sins, he knows what is in our hearts. Someone who repents must not continue to live in that sin. Now, that is God's word.

By: TITAN1 on 6/27/13 at 7:14

Blanketnazi, you can act like a smart A all you want. I guess not everyone is a "genius" like you. You have something against Bible classes. I know Bible scholars that would leave you speechless. I love going to worship and Bible class. I do study for myself and have for a long time, but it's good to study together and have fellowship. As for the rights of someone who chooses to live a perverted lifestyle, I will not support it nor will I support anyone who passes these laws. I try to live by God's word and still love them, but will pray that they repent and change their ways. I'm tired of hearing people say they are born that way. There has NEVER been proof of that.

By: ancienthighway on 6/27/13 at 7:41

It's curious how translations of the Bible morph in each iteration.

The Greek word that was translated as homosexual is found in only three verses"

Matthew 11:7 (NLT) As John's disciples were leaving, Jesus began talking about him to the crowds. "What kind of man did you go into the wilderness to see? Was he a weak reed, swayed by every breath of wind?

Luke 7:25 (NLT) Or were you expecting to see a man dressed in expensive clothes? No, people who wear beautiful clothes and live in luxury are found in palaces

1 Corinthians 6:9 which the NLT, rather than keeping the translations of being, in effect, weak willed or a fancily dressed man, chose to use a new term, homosexual.

Looking back at AKJV a more accurate translation is found.
1 Corinthians 6:9

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind

Even this version isn't totally true to the Greek words that Paul wrote, but it is a far cry different from the NLT version. Effeminate, even as defined today, does not mean homosexual, but I can see weak willed or fancy dresser.

In the end, Paul did not speak of homosexuality as the newer translations of the Bible want us to belief.

By: TITAN1 on 6/27/13 at 8:23

Sorry, ancient. It is there for you to see, but you have to remove the blinders. When you have your mind made up to reject the word of God just so you can live life your way, you are blind to the truth.

By: pswindle on 6/27/13 at 9:29

TN is a first cousin to Texas.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/28/13 at 6:49

TITAN, you have on blinders when it comes to contradictions in the Bible. You like "blind faith" because it's blind to facts.

By: BigPapa on 6/28/13 at 8:09

They did not write any of that down. You're an idiot if you think his friends were walking around taking dictation, the Bible stories were kept and told through oral tradition for hundreds of years after Jesus was dead and gone before anyone wrote it down.

Imagine if we just now started writing the history of the American Revolution after just telling stories about it to each other for 200+ years.. think events would be altered?

Only the most simple minded think the Bible is a play by play of events as they happened.

By: ancienthighway on 6/28/13 at 8:32

If researching additional versions of the Bible in order to find the true meaning is wearing blinders, then I shall be forever blind. I find any version of the Bible in the last 20 to 50 years to be suspect due to the influence of the evangelical movement and it's leaders having some divine insight to the will of God. No man can claim to have this ability. That would make man equal to God. Unless one is the Christ second coming or an Apostle or one of God's prophets, any words spoken as if they are God's words are blasphemy.

The Bible has had changes made to it with each translation, changes which the church felt brought it more in line with their current agenda. If you want to know what the Bible really says, and aren't a linguistic scholar that can read the languages the various parts were written in, you have to rely on the oldest version you can read. It will be closer to the original word than the bastardized NLT or NIV Bibles.

No matter where you look in the AKLV, you will find no verse stating homosexuality is a sin. You will find verse saying it's an abomination, but an abomination is not necessarily a sin, it's simply behavior not accepted by society at the time the verse was scribed.

The Church, however, added to the Word, and decided God really meant sin, not abomination. And the Church has changed the Word to meet it's definition. I'm pretty sure that falls into that blasphemy category again.

By: TITAN1 on 6/28/13 at 8:33

Hey, BP! You and blanketnazi2 should date each other, or are you one of those that date your own sex?

By: TITAN1 on 6/28/13 at 8:35

See ya a judgement day.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/28/13 at 8:50

Ah, now the "true Christian" comes out - lol!

By: TITAN1 on 6/28/13 at 9:09

Oh that's right, people like you don't believe in judgement day, do you sweetie?

By: BigPapa on 6/28/13 at 9:11

When you can't argue with truth & facts.. just go to insults.

Im not gay but I fully support gay marriage. I also fully support any churches right to chose to not marry gay couples.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/28/13 at 9:21

TITAN, you guys just want fire and brimstone for those who don't agree with your worldview. And no, sweetie - I don't believe in your silly little "judgement day."

By: TITAN1 on 6/28/13 at 9:21

BP, the only way my question could have insulted you is if you were insulted by my joke that you might live the gay lifestyle. Could it be that you also find it perverted, but just like to go along with what has become popular instead of what is right?

By: TITAN1 on 6/28/13 at 9:22

Sweetie, were you abused?

By: yucchhii on 6/28/13 at 9:22

I'm going to say this, you can agree or disagree, whatever you feel, but when it comes to TRUTH, there is NO truth stronger than BIBLE TRUTH! 1st, The bible teaches us to LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF!! I am to love you regardless of what is up with you. You can be black, white, hispanic or fat, skinny, slim, mentally challenged and physically challenged...GAY OR LESBIAN too. I am to love you as I would myself from the heart. As a Christian, I do not condemn anyone, that is judging....THAT IS GODS JOB. As a Christian, my job is to INFORM them of what GOD says about things. Faith comes by hearing the word of God. Once I tell you what God says, what you do with it is on YOU. Then it's BETWEEN YOU AND GOD!! Ever heard of a GAY CHRISTIAN? That don't work too well. BECAUSE if you are a CHRISTIAN, then you KNOW how GOD feels about GAY ANYTHING...it is an ABOMINATION. Now, I am NOT judging anyone here, this is what GOD SAYS IN "HIS" WORD!! As far as politicians making it legal for same sex marriage...well, if they don't know what God says about it, they WILL be told, BUT don't forget, SATAN works is doings through politicians and other people like you and I. They can legalize anything they want, GODS WORD IS OVER "ALL" MANS LAW!! When the time comes..."ALL" (Not some or certain, but ALL) TONGUES WILL CONFESS THAT JESUS IS LORD!" Now you don't have to believe that if you don't want to, but GODS TRUTH IS SHARPER THAN ANY TWO EDGE SWORD!!!

By: TITAN1 on 6/28/13 at 9:30

That is correct, yucchhii. God teaches us to love the sinner, but hate the sin. The people I know who chose the gay lifestyle, I love them, but I pray they repent before it is too late. We all sin, but it is about repentance from the heart. All saints have a past and all sinners have a future.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/28/13 at 9:36

No, sweetie but keep trying! I know it's hard for you to swallow that the Bible is just a fairy tale. And it's even darker than the Grimm tales. But whatever gets you through the day is fine with me - just don't try to legislate it or force your opinions on others.

By: TITAN1 on 6/28/13 at 10:03

I don't try to force anything on others, unlike the gay lifestyle community who want to flaunt their perverted lifestyle. I'll spread God's word in lieu of what they are spreading. As has already been said, non-believers don't have to accept God's word now, but some day they will.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/28/13 at 10:14

No one is forcing anything upon you - no one is making you be gay and unless you are going to gay bars I doubt it affects your every day life in any way whatsoever. You're being intolerant and want to legislate your opinion.

By: TITAN1 on 6/28/13 at 10:28

No, I am standing up against what I know is wrong . Not backing something I know is wrong is not forcing anything. It is trying to keep things in accordance to God's word. That is MY right.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/28/13 at 11:19

Forcing your opinions upon others is what you are attempting to do. If you want to follow "God's word" just don't practice gay sex. It's not up to you to dictate what others do.

By: TITAN1 on 6/28/13 at 11:59

So, if it came to a vote you are saying that nobody has the right to vote against same sex marriage. Do you see how you are forcing your "opinion" on us? If you want to back it, that is your right, just like is is my right to not support it.

By: ancienthighway on 6/28/13 at 12:08

Oh, well. I thought Titan was going to engage in some intelligent discussion. Apparently too many facts came out against him, as he switched to insults...and not even at me or what I say.

I would have read yucchhii's post but after I started it became something like a text message one might see on a teenager's iPhone, with random capital letters that make no sense at all. Post it again within the English grammar syntax and I'll read it and respond if warranted.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/28/13 at 12:20

If two people you don't even know get married, that does not adversely affect you. However, not allowing them to marry DOES adversely affect them? Do you understand that?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/28/13 at 12:21

ancienthighway, it is like trying to reason with tweens (they don't even qualify as teens).

By: ancienthighway on 6/28/13 at 12:32

“None so blind as those that will not see.”
Matthew Henry (1662-1714)

“There are none so positive as those who are but half right.”
William McDonnell (1814-1900)

“None so empty as those who are full of themselves.”
Benjamin Whichcote (1609–1683)

By: TITAN1 on 6/28/13 at 12:49

Trying to get through to someone who thinks an explosion created this world and life is like trying to teach an elephant to fly. This world was designed, our bodies were designed. So, there has to be a designer, God. An explosion did not create our immune systems, they were designed. Life comes from life. Those are just a few of the logical examples. Therefor, I support God's word. Now, maybe you should go pray to your explosion. I'm sure it will guide you in the right direction.~

By: BigPapa on 6/28/13 at 1:02

Tian1
You think like a child.