Southern Baptists shrink for sixth straight year

Wednesday, June 5, 2013 at 8:40pm

Membership among Southern Baptists has fallen slightly for the sixth straight year.

The nation's largest Protestant denomination released in-house statistics Wednesday showing that total membership dropped 0.66 percent in 2012. The annual report prepared by the Southern Baptist Convention's Lifeway Christian Resources and reported by the Baptist Press news service says there were 105,000 fewer Baptists in 2012 than the year before.

Baptisms fell by 5.5 percent after a slight increase in 2011. That's considered a particularly important measure of growth for a denomination committed to evangelism.

The Southern Baptist Convention did add some 270 individual churches in 2012. And the Nashville-based denomination still has nearly 16 million members.

Southern Baptists are gathering next week in Houston for their annual meeting.

52 Comments on this post:

By: govskeptic on 6/6/13 at 5:07

While not so good for the Nation, it's great news for those who want to replace
all faiths to the closets of the nation. Then their Utopia would be complete.

By: Loner on 6/6/13 at 5:48

Let us hope and pray that the Southern Baptists slowly fade away to nothingness...same goes for all the various sects of the Abrahamic faiths: Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

The first page of the Bible is absolutely unbelievable...as is the last page of the Bible...so, what can we deduce about all those pages in between? It's Jewish BS, baby.

As for the Qoran and Islam, it is an illegitimate offshoot of Judaism based upon conversions at swordpoint, military conquests and personal acts of faith-based violence.

I reject all three Abrahamic faiths...they are the most inherently evil weapons of mass destruction ever invented by human beings.

By: Loner on 6/6/13 at 5:51

What?! The Southern Baptists are convening in Houston, TX, not in the new MCC in Nashville? This will not stand!

By: TITAN1 on 6/6/13 at 9:17

Loner, do you have a better or more logical explanation on how this world and life was created than what the Bible says? Please don't spew the explosion nonsense. It is obvious everything was designed so there had to be a designer.

By: pswindle on 6/6/13 at 10:36

The Southern Baptist has become so anti everything that I'm not surprised. In-fighting does not help the cause.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/6/13 at 2:07

International team strengthens Big Bang Theory
http://phys.org/news/2013-06-international-team-big-theory.html

Definitely makes more sense than Adam and Eve and the 7 days of creation.

By: TITAN1 on 6/6/13 at 2:30

Life was not created by an explosion. From humans down to ants, they were designed. Therefor, there is a designer. Just take our immune systems for example, they were not created by an explosion. Life can only come from life. Someone keeps paying these "Scientists" and it is really hard to call them that, to come up with proof that God is not real and is not our creator, but they never have and never will. Just a waste of time and money. But, God does give us a choice, it is up to us if we want to accept his gift of eternal life.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/6/13 at 2:40

Just because you can't wrap your head around the scientific evidence doesn't mean it's false.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/6/13 at 2:43

And what's with your paranoid conspiracy that someone is paying scientists to dispute god? Wow......

By: TITAN1 on 6/6/13 at 2:45

No evidence has been found, But, as I said you can believe whatever you want.. It comes down to which better explains logic. Life comes from life, not an explosion.

By: TITAN1 on 6/6/13 at 2:46

No paranoia here.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/6/13 at 2:56

If you have no paranoia then why do you think someone is paying scientists to come up with theories? There is more evidence to support science than there is to support the fairy tales in the Bible.

By: Loner on 6/6/13 at 7:08

By: TITAN1 on 6/6/13 at 10:17

Loner, do you have a better or more logical explanation on how this world and life was created than what the Bible says? Please don't spew the explosion nonsense. It is obvious everything was designed so there had to be a designer.

Titan, my hominid brother, a more logical explanation of how earth was created and how human beings came to dominate the animal kingdom on this planet can be summed up in two words: Shit Happens.

Exactly why there is shit to begin with is beyond my pay grade....some say it was the Big Dump....Divine Defecation...but I believe that the universe simply farted....the gaseous nebulae are cosmic testimony to that theory....when "lit", they explode into super novae of primordial flatulence....and that is how we got here....need I say more?

By: Loner on 6/6/13 at 7:25

The fossil record clearly indicates that life on this planet has gone through a long trial and error process - most, if not all species that were among the first organisms to exist on this planet are long extinct - looks like the intelligent design, if there ever was one, produced mostly failed designs...and the extinction rate is increasing as the earth undergoes climate change.

To me, any adult with an average IQ or higher should realize that the odds of any of us being born are too great to calculate...so, we should all be extremely grateful to be alive on this wonderful living planet...those who say that there must be more to life than this are supreme ingrates....or simply too stupid to realize their good fortune....which one are you, Titan?

By: TITAN1 on 6/6/13 at 7:55

Loner, if you had any creditability at all before this discussion, you just lost it. "Stuff happens" is your answer! LOL! I'm sorry, really I am. I didn't know you and Blanketnazi were unarmed. As I said before, God gives us the choice and it is up to us to make the right one. God bless and have a good night.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 6:20

Unarmed? I don't think so. I posted a site showing evidence that makes more sense than the fairy tales in the Bible that so many people take seriously. Our existance is not proof that the Bible's version is true. Blind faith is blind for a reason.

By: daytonsdarwin on 6/7/13 at 7:22

PT Barnum said: "There's a sucker born every minute — most of them are born-again."

The poorly written, politically conceived Bible reflects the uneducated sheep and goat herders understanding of their environment.

That such myths are considered as historically accurate and scientifically literate by religious fundamentalists speaks to the delusions and wishful thinking of the gullible.

On a positive note, prostitutes in Houston are expecting a huge uptick in business during the convention when Southern Baptists seek to convert them using the Word of God and hundred-dollar bills.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 7:29

So daytonsdarwin, you're saying that the convention attendees are going to have a cum to Jesus?

By: global_citizen on 6/7/13 at 8:24

Titan, you can believe that God created everything or you can believe something more realistic, like the fact that life as we know it was almost inevitable given the number of planets, stars, solar systems, and galaxies known to exist.

There are an estimated 176 billion galaxies now known (and very likely many, many more unknown and never-to-be-known). Our own Milky Way galaxy contains 200 billion solar systems. If we do the math, that means there are somewhere around 35,200,000,000,000,000,000,000 solar systems and possibly 281,600,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the known universe.

Given that number of planets, well as I said, it is nearly inevitable that life as we have on Earth was going to happen, or evolve, to use a term evangelicals seem to have particular dogmatic disdain for.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/10/10/how-many-galaxies-are-there-in-the-universe-the-redder-we-look-the-more-we-see/#.UbHgs7XVDrk

By: daytonsdarwin on 6/7/13 at 9:37

"So daytonsdarwin, you're saying that the convention attendees are going to have a cum to Jesus?"

Yes. Never underestimate the power of Christ to remove your sins and ring-around-the collar.

I'm sure the Gideons will be placing Bibles in all the hotel/motel rooms for the Southern Baptists.

Many Christians find the Bible of great use in hotel/motel rooms. It's makes a dandy coaster for your Jack and Coke. The thin, crisp pages make emergency rolling papers for marijuana, and can be rolled into a thin straw for snorting cocaine and meth.

If Christians forgot their Harry Potter book, the Bible contains interesting stories about giants,dragons, witches, wizards, unicorns, and the walking dead.

If the Christian woman forgot their "Fifty Shads of Grey" they can find fornication, gang-rape, threesomes, incest, S&M, bondage, and mutilation.

The heft is great for killing roaches, bedbugs, centipedes, and throwing at mice. Works reasonably well for leveling tables and beds if you open it up between the Old and New Testament.

And finally, the Bible is Jimmy Swaggert's favorite place to hide his money before paying hookers.

Nothing like a good book of fiction while staying in Houston between visits to the prayer chapel, buffets, and strip clubs . Unfortunately, the Bible is neither good nor well-written.

By: Left-of-Local on 6/7/13 at 9:42

This is the best news I've heard all week. The more these hate/greed groups disguised as loving Christian faiths shrink, the better.

I wish I would live to see the light-brown, secular, human-focussed future that we're slowly, hopefully, moving into.

By: BigPapa on 6/7/13 at 9:56

Cmon now.. yall know Titan1 is about as deep as a dixie cup, dont confuse him with all that crazy facts n science n stuff..
Now sing it! "gimme that ol' time religion...."

By: daytonsdarwin on 6/7/13 at 10:45

Maybe the Southern Baptists should upgrade their Sunday menu. Instead of grape juice and stale crackers, have Krispy Kreme Donuts and a good cup of coffee.

Jesus told me yesterday that's what we'd be having now but His old man, BIg Sky Daddy, was a tightwad and wouldn't spring for real food.

No wonder SBs can't gain membership. Not only do you have to believe supernatural BS, but the snacks suck.

Next time communion is passed just say, "No thanks," and whip out a box of Krispy-Kreme and start passing them instead. Jesus will give you a big "thumbs up!"

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 10:58

Evolution guy, I sure hope you are in good health.

By: daytonsdarwin on 6/7/13 at 11:21

"Evolution guy, I sure hope you are in good health."

I am, thank you. There's no fundamentalist preachers, Orthodox rabbis, or Catholic priests in my home. I and my kids are safe.

Sunday morning we watching the faith-healers for a good laugh. There's nothing like the sight of pink-haired money-hoes, bad toupees and hair-dyes, and the twitching intellectually-challenged true believers rolling on the floor shaking like a dying cockroach and speaking nonsense syllables to teach children about the wonders of mass-hysteria and religious tomfoolery.

We do wonder why God never heals amputees. Perhaps He's too busy counting money in the collection plate to notice.

How's your health?

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 11:40

I don't believe in modern day faith healers either, but I do believe in the power of prayer. Your lack of knowledge of the Bible is obvious when you speak of faith healers on tv. There are many false prophets in today's world. You have to study the Bible to know which ones they are. The path is narrow. You have made your choice and God gave you that right. He also gives you the right to change that decision, but that is up to you. Have a good day.

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 12:09

I'm proud of this young man!

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/06/07/fox-and-friends-interview-hs-valedictorian-roy-costner-iv-viral-lords-prayer-graduation

By: daytonsdarwin on 6/7/13 at 12:21

I believe in Mark Twain who said, "The best cure for Christianity is to read the Bible."

That's because most Christians never read the Bible. If they did,
"WTF?" would sound alarm bells.

Taking the Bible as a literal, historical, and scientific reality is stupendously stupid. Whether your a fundamentalist Christian, Jew, or Muslim, a belief in inerrant scriptures never leads to anything good.

I've have read the Bible. It's next to my copy of George Carlin's "When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops?"

I grew up in fundamentalism Christianity, but grew out of it when I discovered science, history, and reason at 12 years of age. It took another few years to completely give up the notion of a Jehovah, an invisible Sky Daddy, counting hairs on my head and grains of sands on the beaches while allowing suffering, murder, rape, and genocide. What kind of a father allows that to happen to his kids and then calls that good? No loving father, but the Biblical Jehovah does.

That's when I completely gave up on the paranoid-schizophrenic deity, his imaginary son, and the Holy Spook. I understand why you might believe in such, but that particular god is too small, petty, and insignificant for the wonders of the universe. Your Jehovah is like a prison warden threatening the inmates he created and imprisoned, who wants his hand and ass kissed or he'll tear you to pieces while calling it worship and praise.

On earth we call that criminal. To believers that's love.

What it is, is f**ked-up!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 12:34

daytonsdarwin, you know that church is the world's worst book club. Everyone shows up but no one has read the book and it's been going on forever! LOL

By: daytonsdarwin on 6/7/13 at 1:07

It's a shame the high-school graduate didn't recite The Flying Spaghetti Monster's Prayer. It's better written and lots more fun.

From the funny atheist on tumbler. http://tinyurl.com/qghpqb7

Our Pasta
Who art in colander
Draining be thy noodles.

Thy noodle come
Thy sauce be yum
On top some grated Parmesan.

Give us this day
Our garlic bread and forgive us our trespasses
As we forgive those
Who trample our lawn.

And lead us not into
Vegetarianism,
But deliver us
Some pizza.

For thine is the meatball,
The noodle, and the sauce
Forever and ever.

-R'amen-

It took more brains to write that than recite a worthless call for divine intervention on a football field from an imaginary paranoid-schizophrenic bogyman.

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 1:13

His is the truth which you refuse to accept, yours is foolish. Your choice.

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 1:16

I do respect your opinion and I apologize for not recognizing your SPECIAL day of celebration on April 1.

By: daytonsdarwin on 6/7/13 at 1:38

Every day is special when you don't believe in a vengeful, murderous god, who is an impotent, imaginary creation of man.

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 2:06

I take it from your screen name that you believe in evolution, then why didn't you evolve?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 2:38

So, Titan. All you have is insults to hurl? You call daytonsdarwin a fool yet you take the Bible literally? Why take the Bible literally but not Greek myths?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 2:38

Ramen, daytonsdarwin. ;~)

By: daytonsdarwin on 6/7/13 at 2:41

"I take it from your screen name that you believe in evolution, then why didn't you evolve?"

I did evolve; from a fundamentalist bible-banging true believer to a rationalist humanist. That's the best evolution of all!

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 2:47

You are kidding, right blanketnazi? Go back and look at your posts. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 2:47

The article above seems to indicate that more people are eloving too. Except for people like Titan.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 2:49

Titan, at least I posted information supporting the Big Bang Theory. All you do is insult.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 2:49

Oh wait - your type insults then tells the same person to have a "blessed day." Silly hypocrite.

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 2:50

Blanketnazi, comparing the word of God to Greek myths? You really are sad.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/7/13 at 3:13

That's funny, Titan. Coming from someone who believes the Bible was written by some guy in the sky.

But whatever. More people are leaving religion because they see the falseness and hypocracy. A more secular world would be a more peaceful world.

By: daytonsdarwin on 6/7/13 at 3:38

Better lessons to be learned from the Greek gods than the Biblical god.

Titan, you already admitted your an atheist as to the Christian faith-healer's god. I just go one step further and admit I'm an atheist as to your god.

And which god is it you worship? There's been over 3,000 gods since recorded history. So which one did you select?

Wait, wait, don't tell me! . . . . . . It's the ONE TRUE GOD (and Bingo was his name-o)!

Christians typically know so little about the history of the bible, the piece-meal way it was written, the Council of Nicea, the various incarnations and interpretations of the Bible, and all the contradictions found within the Bible.

For people who claim to believe every word as true, you sure don't know what's in it.

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 4:45

No blanket, people who leave their faith think they can live their life their way instead of God's way, but many realize they do need God and come back. That is what happens when people start putting worldly things before God. I was one of those. I left the church for awhile thinking I could do things my way. Truth is, the whole time I knew I was wrong and prayed a lot that God would help me make better decisions and repent. I thank God every day for not giving up on me and I will continue to spread his word. I will follow God, our creator who sent his son to die for us and promised us eternal life if we follow his word. What did your "explosion" promise you? Your so called scientists have proved NOTHING and they never will. There is only ONE God, but you can pray to your "explosion".

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 5:37

An article from a former atheist.

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

By: daytonsdarwin on 6/7/13 at 6:06

The only prayer I have is to protect me from God's True Believers. I don't pray to what is not there, whether father, son, or holy spook.

This life is it. I exclude the insanely religious, bible-bangers, Koran nut-jobs, Catholics like Opus Dei, the Heaven's-Gate wackos, and New Age/psychics, UFOers, and in general those who can not add to my life.

I prefer the company of Christopher Hitchins, Mark Twain, Carl Sagan, Robert Ingersoll, Neil Degrasse Tyson, and Albert Ellis to the religious shenanigans of Mike Huckabee, John Hagee, PTL and TBN, Billy Graham, Joel Osteen, Rick Warren, and every Pope who ever lived.

I do not need to believe in fairy-tales, myths, legends, and religious BS as reality to live my life. I'm happier without it.

Your god is not worthy of spittle, much less worship. The world would be better without religious fundamentalism. It offers contradictory morality, genocide, torture, rape, and conquest of everyone not like themselves.

To believe as literal truth a two-thousand year-old, poorly written work of fiction to determine my life today would be like having a witch-doctor shake his rattles over my broken leg, then telling me I'm cured.

You may be of a mental mindset that needs superstitions to live; I don't. You may desire Creationism and Intelligent Design to be taught in schools as fact. I won't.

You may have lived you life in such a manner to fear an imaginary god. I haven't.

Christianity has left a blood-trail 2000 years long by intolerant bigots living in the Dark Ages of ghosts and goblins. Christian fundamentalism offers more of the same.

I'm not sure what is worse. People who never read the Bible, but go around spouting God's great love but never act that way in reality or people who have read the Bible with no reason and comprehension and swallow the pronoucements of preachers and priets who tell them what to think.

Fortunately most people sitting in church pews Sunday morning are there simply for social reasons, shout a few halleluiahs for pr purposes, then have a beer and wine with Sunday dinner and forget the religious mumbo-jumbo till the next Sunday. Otherwise, they'd all become Fred Phelps clones.

Keep your Bible where it belongs — in church, in your home, in your private lives, but keep that nonsense out of government, public schools, and public areas.

The world has enough problems without every fundamentalist of all religious stripes claiming that his imaginary friend is the only one.

Save yourself, but don't pester me with your antiquated BS.

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 6:24

I'm not pestering you, evolution boy. It is getting to you because you know the truth, but won't accept it. I wouldn't mock God if I were you, but thank God I'm not you.

By: TITAN1 on 6/7/13 at 6:39

You also have a problem lumping people together. That is being lazy on your part, but that doesn't surprise me. There are millions who go to church to worship God and have fellowship with one another and take the Lord's Supper. We gladly give a weekly contribution to the church. The Pastor receives a modest salary, he isn't rich. Some of the contribution goes for the upkeep of the building and for classroom teaching. A lot of it goes to missionary work to spread God's word here and abroad. There is also a benevolent fund to help the needy. You paint with a broad brush because it easy for you, but nowhere near accurate.

By: daytonsdarwin on 6/7/13 at 6:54

You're not getting to me, Titan. I enjoy exposing Christian fundamentalism for what it is. Worship of an imaginary war-god, whose delusions of grandeur have served to cause the world pain and agony by carrying out its divine retribution on humanity.

As someone else said in summing up Christian beliefs:

God said, "I'm going to create man and woman with original sin. Then I'm going to impregnate a woman with myself as her child, so that I can be born. Once alive, I will kill myself as a sacrifice to myself. To save you from the sin I originally condemned you to. Ta dah!!!"

Christian fundamentalism in one paragraph. You can smoke that all day long, but I'll take my good life without that horse-hockey sold as a true morality.