Burch: End of the world as we know it?

Thursday, December 20, 2012 at 10:05pm
By Michael R. Burch

Does 12-21-2012 herald the end of mankind, perhaps due to sheer idiocy, following the dodo to extinction? Did ancient Mayans travel through the spirit world to peer into the increasingly irrational minds of their future descendants, and conclude that human evolution was a dead end?

I would like to believe that human beings can still rise above the various dysfunctions created by our inability (or unwillingness) to rely on facts and use our powers of reason to solve vexing problems rationally. But the Mayans may have been right, and it even seems that I may have become something of a prophet myself, if only by studying facts and using logic to predict the inevitable.

In my previous article I made the following observation about right-wing conservatives who insist on the unlimited right to bear arms: “Now they want guns in parks, parking lots and universities. And they’re not satisfied with Colts and Magnums. In American bigger is better. So the next logical steps, so to speak, will probably be assault weapons in high schools, grade schools, kindergartens, pre-schools, Sunday schools and maternity wards.”

Now 20 young Sandy Hook Elementary students, all age six or seven, lie dead, along with six educators, at least three of whom courageously placed their bodies in danger to shield their young charges. Perhaps their courage is only matched by the stupidity of the NRA and its political minions, who refuse to accept the fact that flooding a nation with assault weapons and ammo is something only dodos — not an intelligent species — would do.

I am utterly horrified to have been made to seem like a prophet, so quickly. But none of us can change the past, so now the question becomes whether we are doomed to keep repeating the errors of the past, because we obstinately refuse to learn from them, or whether we can finally begin to use our big brains to save our children and their teachers from needless carnage and death.

Will the Tennessee state legislature now act to protect our children? It seems quite possible that conservatives will just adamantly dig in their heels, insisting that “guns don’t kill people” and that nothing can be done but hand out weapons to teachers in the hope that they can take out would-be-serial-killers without accidentally shooting their own students (something that is nowhere near as easy as the Rambos would like us to believe).

I have no doubt that dodo-like Tennessee politicians will soon be echoing the “wisdumb” of Louis Gohmert, a Texas representative who said that if the school’s principal had been armed, she might have been able to prevent some or all of the mayhem: “I wish to God she had had an M-4 in her office locked up and so when she heard gunshots ... she takes his head off before he can hurt those kids.”

The head of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence begs to differ. “There are 40 people behind me who would love to respond to that,” Brady president Dan Gross said at a press conference. “It’s insane ... Think about what that’s saying. It’s saying the only answer to violence is more violence. The only answer to guns is more guns.”

Gross said that more weapons would only make events like the one at Sandy Hook worse, as innocent people are caught in a withering crossfire. He also said, “I would hope the representative is held responsible for irresponsible statements like that.”

Are Tennessee’s assault-gun-loving Holy Rollers saints or sinners? I think Oscar Wilde may have been right when he said that the only sin is stupidity.

 

 

Note: After I wrote the first draft of this article, the right-wingers made me seem like a prophet again, because Tennessee lawmakers are, indeed, pushing ahead with “guns in trunks” legislation, and are also talking about arming teachers, professors and school administrators. According to John Harris, the executive director of the Tennessee Firearms Association, “Our principal goal is to remove all statutory and regulatory restrictions of firearms possession.” (Not some, but all.)

And this Monday the state’s dodo-in-chief, Gov. Bill Haslam, said that legislators should not change Tennessee’s gun control laws. Why? Guns are big business in Tennessee and the NRA is scheduled to bring around 48,000 visitors to Nashville for its 2015 convention, so perhaps money talks louder than children’s and teachers’ lives. No other industrialized nation has near as many mass murders and other acts of gun-related violence as the United States, so there is solid evidence that what we have here is an aberration, not anything inevitable. One may perhaps teach old dogs new tricks, but old dodos seem to be allergic to progress.

Michael R. Burch is a Nashville-based editor and publisher of Holocaust poetry and other “things literary” at www.thehypertexts.com.

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192 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 12/22/12 at 4:15

Have a great Christmas, everyone. One more night in Atlanta and then back to where they are shoveling snow....not really looking forward to that....but hey, folks are friendlier there, at least on the highways...around here it's road rage city...people driving like idiots...blowing their horns, flipping you off etc.....and that's with a rental car with FL plates! If I had NY plates, they would have surely opened fire....must be all that Jesus bullshit they've been fed.

By: budlight on 12/22/12 at 6:25

By: bfra on 12/22/12 at 8:55
A total gun roundup is more impossible than rounding up all of the illegal immigrants in the US

Actually bfra if you rounded up ALL the illegal immigrants in the US, you'd probably find about 3/4's of them have illegal guns. Now that's an idea - solve 2 birds with one stone! Go get 'em INS - round them thar' illegals up and git them thar' guns.

There is an investigation at DHS in Nashville about 32 kids who died in DHS custody. GEE, how come you people are not outraged about these kids? Could it be you don't give a royal hoot about these "throw away kids"? To me they are just as important as the Obama offspring! Probably more so, since the Obama offspring will probably contribute zilch to society overall.

By: yogiman on 12/22/12 at 8:03

Nah, budlight,

Barry's kids have it made. He became an automatic multimillionaire when he usurped that office.

By: Ask01 on 12/22/12 at 10:47

No outrage, budlight?

Quite the contrary, I, and I am certain many others feel tremendous outrage at the death of any child, taking the loss of life as an attack not only on humanity today, but an undermining of hope for the future. There are no "throw away children" unless some people wish them to be thus designated.

The deaths of the DHS children and other innocents noted by some on this board, however, were scattered, spread by time and location. Not concentrated in a single locale. Some were, as I recall, accidental, with the children being sadly, in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The children slaughtered in Connecticut were not in the wrong place, random victims, or spread over time. They were where they were supposed to be, deliberately targeted, and murdered effectively in the same span of time.

The tragedy in Newtown differs from the other murders and unnatural deaths of children in the past in that the carnage was not accidental, random, or connected to being in a dangerous place. The victims of Adam Lanza were supposed to be in a safe place, in a presumed safe town.

Has there been laws controlling the availability of semi automatic weapons capable of holding sufficient ammunition to minimize time reloading, and had we better, broader laws dealing with identifying, treating, and if need be, institutionalizing those exhibiting signs of mental illness, currently grieving parents would be joyfully anticipating gleeful noise next Tuesday instead of dreading an awful silence.

By: yogiman on 12/23/12 at 6:12

Ask01,

As I have posted before, this is a different America from the one I grew up in. If someone had asked for an armed guard at the schools in my childhood they would have been laughed at and run out of the room as crazy.

What's the cause of today's situation in the USA? I say congress; for openly allowing so many foreigners into the US with no requirements.

I remember when only so many were allowed in the US from foreign nations. They could only enter through Ellis Island or Treasure Island and pass a medical examination to mnake sure they weren't bringing a disease with them. If they wanted to become citizens they had to live in the US for a minimum of seven years and pass their citizenship test in the English language. Why are citizenship tests now given in foreign languages? Why is so many foreign languages shown as the official language in so many places in the US?

We need a new congress to give us back our original USA.

By: bfra on 12/23/12 at 7:50

Ask01 made a very well written, logical comment in response to bud;s garbage. Thank you Ask01! Then stupid had to add his repeated, over & over garbage. If some would stop, read comments by people that know what they are talking about, quit bucking for attention & stop (cut & paste) from garbage sites, with no verification, this board would be much better.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/23/12 at 8:21

When yogi was in school in the days of his youth as a child, they did not have guns. They had clubs.

America was not the same as today as it was 200 yrs ago. It won't be the same in another 200 yrs either. It is called change, which is something yogi has no concept of.

Stay hide your closet yogi. You only have a matter of days before you see the truth and that will be to late for you then.

By: Loner on 12/23/12 at 8:30

Troll droppings have fouled this site....the NCP's appeal is waning.

By: bfra on 12/23/12 at 8:42

Troll droppings is a very apt description for what the trolls post here.They foul every discussion, everyday. The stench is terrible!

By: yogiman on 12/23/12 at 10:46

We didn't have clubs like you did when you was a child, dumba$$. And it doesn't look like you went to school so where did you use them; down the hill from the cave?

We had fists when I was in school. That's all we needed for idiots like you.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/24/12 at 9:00

New NRA Prez David Keene's Son Is a Convicted Road-Rage Shooter
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/new-nra-prez-david-keenes_b_856268.html

By: Loner on 12/24/12 at 12:45

We have senseless, deadly, gun violence here too...this morning, four firefighters were shot by a crazy gunman as they responded to a fire in Webster, NY....a suburb of Rochester, on Lake Ontario. Two are dead, plus the gunman, two are in the hospital, fighting for their lives.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-firefighter-shot-new-york-20121224,0,4287571.story

Is this the price of freedom? The 2nd amendment must go!

By: Captain Nemo on 12/24/12 at 12:53

I expect to hear something like that happening in Gordonsville someday whit yogi, seeing a Russian invasion. I surprised to hear that it has not already taken place.

I am truly sorry to hear that, Loner. It is one of my worries for my daughter, being a first responder.

By: bfra on 12/24/12 at 1:11

China has banned alcohol for top military brass. We should do that here for Congress & then we would get a new Congress. All those alcoholics would quit!

By: Captain Nemo on 12/24/12 at 2:20

One problem with that idea, bfra. It would take these alcoholics to make and pass that bill.

Nice thought but it will never happen.

By: Ask01 on 12/24/12 at 3:45

I have a brief moment free as everything cools, so I would like to share a story Captain Nemo's 12:53 post brought to the surface. It takes place in France in the early 1980's as I recall.

During one of the seemingly never ending exercises conducted in Cold War Europe to prepare for the onslaught of the Communist Horde through the Fulda Pass, a German Army Tank group was falling back to a defensive position on the French side of the border. An old man, reportedly a veteran of World War's I & II was awakened suddenly by the sound of tanks roling through his small village. Throwing open the shutters, to his horror, he witnessed German tanks rumbling beneath his window. Thinking, it seems, an invasion was once again happening, he grabbed his trusty old hunting rifle and began taking shots at the 'invaders.'

To cut to the chase, no one was injured and the French Police managed to restore order, while calming and disarming the old man.

This anecdote had a mostly happy ending, illustrating the bad blood felt by some even years after the end of the war and, more importantly outlining why some people of an advanced age should not be allowed weapons.

Gotta run, timers beeping.

By: yogiman on 12/24/12 at 4:18

Loner,

Common sense should tell you guns have never killed anyone. The use of a gun is simply one way among others to make an intentional kill.

The 2nd Amendment was put in place for a reason: To protect ourselves and our nation.

Every nation that has anti-gun laws in place have dictators in place.

The first bill Obama approached after Nov 6 was going with the UN on gun control. If you want him as your dictator, fine. Simply make your comments in that regard. But you and your fellow admirers should look into his intentions and learn who and what he is. And he isn't just Barry Soetoro or Barack Obama.

The fact that congress has allowed this to happen should be alarming to any true American. He has committed so many violations of the Constitution it's pathetic congress has simply sat on their asses.

Not that it means anything to you and your fellow posters, can you explain why he's wearing a ring on his 'wedding' finger engraved; "There is no God but Allah"?

www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/

By: Loner on 12/24/12 at 6:31

Yogi, with no due respect, you are a complete asshole.

By: bfra on 12/24/12 at 6:56

Wonder if yogi has seen all the pictures showing Obama with his hand over his HEART at ceremonies when it is respectful? yogi LIES!

Wonder if yogi has seen that ring, with his own eyes, or taking some "garbage site's made up story? yogi LIES!

By: Loner on 12/24/12 at 7:14

I left the following post here:
http://discussions.latimes.com/20/lanews/la-na-nn-two-firefighters-shot-dead-in-ambush-upstate-new-york-20121224/10

new_york_loner at 5:08 PM December 24, 2012

If the NRA refuses to help us keep guns out of the hands of the NRA's (Nuts, Rednecks and A-holes), then it's time to round up up ALL the guns. Let the "hunters" hunt with bow & arrow, it's much more sporting.

As for the 2nd amendment, we now have the Pentagon, to provide national security, we do not need "well-regulated Militia" to keep our enemies at bay....the truth is, the enemy is now us.

Enough is enough...the 2nd amendment must be abolished.

By: Loner on 12/24/12 at 7:17

When it comes to the 2nd amendment, count me as an abolitionist.

By: yogiman on 12/24/12 at 9:42

bfra,

Either you don't know what you're making your remarks about or don't care, but I do.

To be blunt, your Master Obama refused to wear a US flag lapel pin or salute (honor) the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

When he became the Democratic party's illegal "nominee" he "finally" began showing his false honor by wearing a lapel flag pin and "saluting" the pledge of allegiance.

Either you're ignorant of the matter or you are a fellow communist with Barack Obama. And you and your fellow posters on this site have the attitude if you don't know it, it doesn't exist.

Consider me any way your little heart desires, bfra, but unless you're so willingly supporting a communist usurper in the Oval Office you're going to learn the hard way.

By: yogiman on 12/24/12 at 10:04

Loner,

The NRA has nothing more to do with criminals using guns that you do. Nor does any association of the knife industry have any more to do with criminals than you.

Criminals are just like you to the fact you think as you do and they think as they do. Only a criminal will commit a crime but you want to blame the crime committed by one criminal on everyone.

As you can read, the official laws have never stooped criminals from committing crimes. Do you have a better knowledge? Forget about gun laws stopping criminals from committing crimes.

By: yogiman on 12/25/12 at 12:16

Interesting: Tells you a little more about what kind liar Obama is.

www,obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/12/shock-video-obama-caught-lying-at-funeral/

By: Loner on 12/25/12 at 8:18

Yogi, do the right thing...pull a DesJarlais...but don't chicken out, like he did....thanks.

By: Rasputin72 on 12/25/12 at 9:32

I was sking in Zermatt,Switzerland when I first learned of the atrocity in Sandy Hook. The first reports came via German television. Being less than fluent,all I could garner was "Sandy Hook" and "Kook" killed school children.

I was not familiar with Sandy Hook, CT. At first blush I thought of Sandy Hook,Tn and not having very much direct contact with the Obamaclass,the underclass or the idioclass,my first thoughts were of the SIMPLE SIX.

I made a quick assumption that one of them or their offspring (a dreadful thought) had finally cracked in their quest for self-esteem. This,I thought could have led to their return to their possible roots in Sandy Hook, Tn to wipe out a perceived source of their bane existence.

The reality of course was that a dweeb with similar motivation carried this theme out in Sandy Hook,CT.

Nothing good can come from a democracy with a voting majority of underclass existence and class envy philosophy.

Having just returned from France, "Qu"ls mangent de la brioche"

By: Captain Nemo on 12/25/12 at 9:48

Fat Head are you as rich as Mitt Romney?

By: budlight on 12/25/12 at 9:50

Ask01 on 12/22/12 at 10:47
No outrage, budlight?

Quite the contrary, I, and I am certain many others feel tremendous outrage at the death of any child, taking the loss of life as an attack not only on humanity today, but an undermining of hope for the future. There are no "throw away children" unless some people wish them to be thus designated.

The deaths of the DHS children and other innocents noted by some on this board, however, were scattered, spread by time and location. Not concentrated in a single locale. Some were, as I recall, accidental, with the children being sadly, in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The children slaughtered in Connecticut were not in the wrong place, random victims, or spread over time. They were where they were supposed to be, deliberately targeted, and murdered effectively in the same span of time.

The tragedy in Newtown differs from the other murders and unnatural deaths of children in the past in that the carnage was not accidental, random, or connected to being in a dangerous place. The victims of Adam Lanza were supposed to be in a safe place, in a presumed safe town.

Has there been laws controlling the availability of semi automatic weapons capable of holding sufficient ammunition to minimize time reloading, and had we better, broader laws dealing with identifying, treating, and if need be, institutionalizing those exhibiting signs of mental illness, currently grieving parents would be joyfully anticipating gleeful noise next Tuesday instead of dreading an awful silence.

Ask, I read your comments and will agree in part.

However your last paragraph is off base somewhat. Are you forgetting that the 10 year assault weapon ban was IN PLACE when the two wacko boys shot up everyone and everything in Colorado at Columbine? So how exactly will the ban work? Will it guarantee that no one ever obtains a semi-automatic or large clips of ammo in the future. NO, it will not.

By: yogiman on 12/25/12 at 11:14

I'm in the game 'til it's over, Loner. I'm just wondering how you will take your loss.

As someone who thinks everyone should think the same as you on any issue that's been brought up, you obviously don't know that makes you look more egotistical than I thought earlier.

All you have to do is prove me wrong Loner, don't just say I am. I'm sure everyone of you "Simple Six" aka [idiosix] would offer your proof at the the moment every time the issue was mentioned.

Simply put, you can't offer proof if you don't have any.

By: Ask01 on 12/25/12 at 12:17

Budlight, I fear you did not read or comprehend the entire last paragraph.

Aside from endorsing a ban on assault weapons and large capacity magazines and clips, I also mentioned, bemoaned actually, a lack of avenues to identify, treat, and confine if need be, those with mental illness.

Simple laws will obviously not guarantee these firearms cannot ever be obtained. However, such would render the ability to legally obtain and possess these weapons more difficult.

The fewer weapons available legally means fewer to be stolen or misused. The risk of harsher federal penalties would likely increase the price charged by gunrunners for trafficking in illegal weapons which would have made the obtaining of these weapons by 'two wacko boys' less likely.

To borrow a line from death penalty supporters, I can guarantee every weapon kept of the streets legally is one less which can be stolen or misused by miscreants such as the ones in Columbine, Newtown, and the loon in New York who set a trap for firefighters.

The number of murders since the Newtown tragedy, combined with the rabid vitriole from gun advocates and insane proposals from the NRA are doing nothing to help the cause of the gun advocates.

Resisting calls to engage in productive dialog to adopt sane laws limiting certain type of weapons and accessories, and improving access to mental health is only hurting the gun lobbyists and stregnthening the resolve of anti gun forces for more severe restrictions just short of a total ban.

Bottom line, don't shoot yourself in the foot.

By: yogiman on 12/25/12 at 1:20

Ask01,

While I agree with you on the limit on specific weapons, you and your fellow objectors agree no weapon you don't approve of should be allowed on the market. As you probably know there are many law abiding citizens that have a "fanatic desire" for any kind of weapon they can afford.

That attitude is a "twin" attitude with people with a strong feeling of knives or even automobiles.

All differences of feelings, yearnings or any other type of ideas are just that and everyone is not going to think as one.

It boils down to known facts; all criminals will find whatever kind of weapon they want and no law will stop them.

By: budlight on 12/25/12 at 1:31

Ask you are leaving out one component which the Actor, Samuel L. Jackson mentioned: (paraphrased): We have lost the meaning of life; We do not respect life any longer.

I can't find the quote. I heard it on the radio along with a profound quote along the same lines from David Letterman.

Now if we can all be brave enough to stand up and fight to have schools reinstate "respect" for a higher power. To reinstate respect for life; for the feelings of others; for the rights of others to exist and grow up. Respect. Not just singling out a "protected" group, but focussing on all Life - from conception to death - natural death.

I cannot see how banning weapons will help. People bent on killing will find any means to an end. Really. I just talked to a guy who's own mother tried to poison him slowly as a child -- until a doctor caught her. She was never prosecuted but now that she has altzheimer's he said he has forgiven her and is helping with her care at a nursing home That is love -- the kind that Jesus Christ emplores us to have for our fellow man. Total love. Merry Christmas.

By: yogiman on 12/25/12 at 1:59

budlight,

Our situation today is being caused by a government permitting one person to cause the mode of life others must live. I call that communistic control.

Why should every child in school be restricted from a prayer to satisfy one child?

That is not the form of government our founders founded.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/25/12 at 2:14

There is no evidence that anyone could ever produce that the idiot yogiman would ever except. Give him facts and the fool only hears what he wants to hear.

Ask01,bud is another example of someone hearing only what she wants to hear and disregarding facts.

By: yogiman on 12/25/12 at 5:02

What fact have you ever offered, dumba$$? None. The only thing you know how to expose is your ignorance.

By: yogiman on 12/25/12 at 5:32

I'm glad China has such great gun control. I see where a man was so distraught over his daughter's murder he drove a car with a tank of gas into a crowd of 23 children. Don't know how many he killed yet but for sure he couldn't match the CT massacre.

By: Ask01 on 12/25/12 at 5:45

Thank you Captain Nemo for confirming I was communicating coherently.

I had begun to fear, as so many could not understand what I was saying, too many nips of the egg nog had impaired my ability to articulate clearly my thoughts.

As an interesting aside, have you seen the news that a retailer in California I believe it was, sold around three and a half years of weapons, ammunition, and accessories in something like 72 hours?

So much for a calm, civil, and intelligent discussion about restricting certain types of firearms and the need for better and easier access to mental health services in this nation.

On second thought, this news confirms my position about the need for intensified mental health counselling and in depth psychological background checks.

By: Ask01 on 12/25/12 at 6:16

Just one more thought to ponder as the day wears down and we prepare ourselves to return to work.

I have read on other websites comments berating the media for their coverage of the atrocity in Connecticut, calling for an end to the story, and some even openly declaring the coverage is aimed at gun control.

I wonder how many others of those urging an end to the coverage are also gun enthusiasts, fearing continued coverage and the heinous nature of the massacre might spur even the lackluster, painfully inept congressional leadership we endure to take action for fear of the voters?

Just wondering. Considering the run on gun shops, I believe the gun lobby is hearing footsteps as public opinion bears down on them.

By: yogiman on 12/25/12 at 6:46

Ask01,

I believe you will find the biggest concern for the "gun crowd" is Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama in his takeover as dictator. I also believe your biggest concern, based on our Constitution and the members of congress we currently have is their not questioning "Obama" on his Constitutionality of the presidency.

By: budlight on 12/25/12 at 6:50

Has there been laws controlling the availability of semi automatic weapons capable of holding sufficient ammunition to minimize time reloading, and had we better, broader laws dealing with identifying, treating, and if need be, institutionalizing those exhibiting signs of mental illness, currently grieving parents would be joyfully anticipating gleeful noise next Tuesday instead of dreading an awful silence.

Ask, this is your last paragraph; the one you said I did not comprehend.

OK, I understand you want tighter laws regarding "availability of semi automatic weapons capable of hold sufficient ammunition to minimize time reloading". That is what I am addressing. When that nutcake was killing those children, do you honestly think anyone could have gotten to him even if he had to reload, if that person was not armed or sneaking up on him?

AND please address this: What kind of guns were used at Columbine? There was a 10-year ban on assault weapons in place. IT DID NOT STOP THE CARNAGE.

This kid who did this killing did exhibit signs of mental illness. He was extremely ODD, at best. Walk over to the mall. Sit for a while and WATCH. You will see many people who appear to be ODD. Should all those who are ODD appearing be sent to a cuckoo nest with the Jack Nicholson's of the world?

There is no way to predict who OR WHEN these types of events will occur. The nut cake who just set the firefighter trap killed his sister first. He has been claiming for years that he hated her. SO HE FINALLY KILLED HER.

Here is my question to you: He killed his 82 yr. old grannie by beating her to death with a hammer. He got to plead the murder charge down to manslaughter and was subsequently released from prison. Now he has killed more and burned down 7 homes. He stated in his letter that he "loved to kill".

He was in prison for Christ's sake. Didn't they notice he was a monster? They let him out. So now, why aren't you and Loner and the other libtards on this site screaming and hollering for tighter controls and tighter enforcement on the already existing laws on the books? WHY WAS HE ON THE STREET?

Ask, just ANSWER some of my questions intelligently. You sound fairly intelligent. So give me some intelligent answers.

Plus answer this: We have thousands of people walking our streets with closed head injuries sustained from everything from being hit with a baseball bat in little league to the one's sustained in wars. Did you know that at any given time a person with a closed head injury can kill you . . . . . and 5 minutes later not know why or what they did? My husband fell 22' onto a concrete floor in 1997. Believe me when I tell you, we have had extensive training in symptoms and results of closed head injuries (including PTSD). My friend in DC fell off a 6' ladder - results Closed Head Injury (PTSD) and subsuently scared his wife so badly that she divorced him.

You can't lock up the entire world.

But I believe we are in a spiritual war in this country. The spirit of evil is vastly among us and the spirit of PEACE is diminishing. The divisiveness in this country is overwhelming.

By: Ask01 on 12/25/12 at 7:02

budlight, you folks just keep making my case for me.

We cannot lock up the entire world, so we need to lock up the weapons, and the longer we wait the more will be on the street for law enforcement to have to forcibly confiscate. Obviously, if the two in Clumbine used weapons after the ban was in lace, better record keeping would have allowed immediate confiscation of the firearms thus preventing the use of those weapons.

Now, do you want to continue proving my point or take the chance to prevent a total confiscation by maintaining the hardline, no compromise position?

I represent what I believe is a rapidly shrinking class who does not advocate total bans and confiscation of weapons and does support better mental health availability.

There are others who take a position of totally banning weapons and taking what you have.

Again, which position do you believe is better for gun owners and which group do you want in the majority when the discussion of gun control finally, inevitably, hits congress.

By: yogiman on 12/25/12 at 8:56

Ask01,

The only ones abiding by the laws are the law abiding citizens. I've never known, or heard of, a criminal "going by the law". Why should they, they're criminals committing crimes as their "line of work".

While I agree most people aren't interested in a law denying assault weapons to the general public, as you probably know, there's a certain "breed" of people that has a desire to own any kind of gun they can afford to own, just like lovers of many other items.