Burch: More money for messianic morons?

Thursday, May 3, 2012 at 9:05pm
By Michael R. Burch

Tennesseans who long for peace rather than bloody, nation-bankrupting wars in the Middle East that seem to resolve nothing, may quite understandably ask why the U.S. government once gave money and weapons to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.

Perhaps Tennesseans should also ask why our government continues to give billions of dollars in financial aid and advanced weapons to the messianic morons running Israel.

Now hold on! Who the hell am I to call Israel’s leaders such terrible things? Well, I’m only passing on information provided by former directors of Israel’s famous (or infamous) intelligence services.

Yuval Diskin, the recently retired director of Shin Bet (Israel’s equivalent of the FBI) has been quoted by the Jerusalem Post and other major news services as saying he has “no faith” in the ability of Israel’s leaders to handle the Iranian nuclear threat. Diskin accused Israel’s leaders of “misleading the public.” He also seemed to question their sanity when he told a gathering in Kfar Saba, “I don’t believe in a leadership that makes decisions based on messianic feelings.” He went on to say that “I have observed them from up close” and “I fear very much that these are not the people I’d want at the wheel.”

Diskin is not the only intelligence service director to criticize Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other high-ranking Israeli politicians. In his first public interview since retiring as director of the Mossad (Israel’s equivalent of the CIA), Meir Dagan called the Netanyahu government’s plans to attack Iran “the stupidest thing I have ever heard.” Dagan seems to agree with Diskin that the real problem is Israel’s crackpot leadership. For example, in a recent 60 Minutes interview, Dagan told Lesley Stahl that “The regime in Iran is a very rational regime” while questioning Israel’s sanity. The spymaster’s appearance on 60 Minutes was apparently an attempt to reach American policymakers in the hope of preventing yet another unnecessary war.

Benny Gantz, the chief of staff of the Israeli military, has also said publicly that Iran’s leaders are rational.

Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert recently said that there is plenty of time to achieve a diplomatic solution with Iran and has warned that the war hawks’ rhetoric is “creating an atmosphere and a momentum that may go out of their control.”

If we put all this together, it seems rather obvious that a number of Israelis “in the know” are aware that Israel’s hawks have lost their marbles (if they ever had any to begin with). It even seems possible that Diskin and Dagan may have stepped down from their posts specifically to warn the world of the dangers the hawks pose to world peace.

President Obama has been trying to find diplomatic solutions to the problems posed by Iranian nukes. But Mitt Romney has pledged his unyielding (and seemingly unthinking) support for Israel.

According to an article in the New York Times, “Romney has suggested that he would not make any significant policy decisions about Israel without consulting Mr. Netanyahu — a level of deference that could raise eyebrows given Mr. Netanyahu’s polarizing reputation, even as it appeals to the neoconservatives and evangelical Christians who are fiercely protective of Israel. In a telling exchange during a debate in December, Mr. Romney criticized Mr. Gingrich for making a disparaging remark about Palestinians, declaring: ‘Before I made a statement of that nature, I’d get on the phone to my friend Bibi Netanyahu and say: “Would it help if I say this? What would you like me to do?” ’ ”

Martin S. Indyk, a United States ambassador to Israel in the Clinton administration, said that whether intentional or not, Mr. Romney’s statement implied that he would “subcontract Middle East policy to Israel.” Other observers have called this strange behavior “the Israeli tail wagging the U.S. dog.”

In any case, this is just one in a long list of reasons that I won’t be voting for Mitt Romney in the upcoming presidential elections. Giving money and weapons to messianic morons so that they can attack Iran on the same false premises used to attack Iraq seems likely to produce the same type of results we saw when a certain messianic moron with the initials G.W.B. did his thing.

Michael R. Burch is a Nashville-based editor and publisher of Holocaust poetry and other “things literary” at www.thehypertexts.com.

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103 Comments on this post:

By: MusicCity615 on 5/4/12 at 10:32

Moonglow-

I'll give you $20 billion. I'll throw in another trillion. We are close to $15 TRILLION in debt. There are hundreds in billions people think that are entitled to simly because outrageous poloticians gained popularity by lying to them and saying they deserve pensions from their employer for life. That kind of rhetoric needs to stop.

Obama can blame bush as much as he wants, but he has spent more in 3 years that Bush did in 8 years. I do not support george bush, and Romney is not George Bush. Romney has the best track record for leading this nation out of the current economic doom.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/4/12 at 10:38

yogi-

Is Paul Wade your real name or is it you’re made up name. How do we know that you are not a North Koran mole and are being used by the enemy?

By: Moonglow1 on 5/4/12 at 10:44

Moonglow1: Mike, I so agree that Romney could do what Bush did all over again and I would add-profit enormously from the death and carnage he would unleash as Bush and his buddied have done.

By: Moonglow1 on 5/4/12 at 10:49

Moonglow1: Captain, Yogi might be a star war "out of this world" alien.

By: Mike Burch on 5/4/12 at 11:01

Yogi,

You said, "If you was as intelligent as you obviously think you are, you would actually want to know the facts about a person being in the Oval Office."

But the proper grammar is "If you were ..." so you look a bit silly criticizing someone else's intelligence with bad English.

Moonglow1 seems to be intelligent and well-informed. You simply have a difference of opinion. So why insult someone else's intelligence?

Moonglow1 made good points about the warmongering of the Bush administration. In my opinion Cheney and Rumsfeld were fascist creeps who led a befuddled moron around by the nose. if George W. Bush was a "legal" president, that makes intelligent Kenyans look all the more attractive!

But in any case, I don't think we should insult each other's intelligence over differences of opinion.

Mike

By: BenDover on 5/4/12 at 11:16

Ahhh... everybody's a critic. Sound like a bunch of doves who would sacrifice national interest on the idea of sending a bouquet of flowers rather than maintaining peace through strength which is the only model that radical Islam seems to understand.

http://www.marksilverberg.com/article/ForeignPolicy/Appeasement/157/

By: Mike Burch on 5/4/12 at 11:19

Moonglow1,

I agree with your statements in this thread.

Our nation has wasted trillions of dollars on wars and now calls the money we contribute in the form of payroll taxes "entitlements" in what seems to be a rather blatant plan to pay for the wars by leaving us penniless and without healthcare when we can no longer work.

The GOP has lost its marbles in my opinion, and seems to be pursuing a war with Iran in a sort of "reverse Domino theory." The idea is that if Iran falls, so will Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, et al. Then all our problems will magically go away. This "plan" of course appeals to Israel and the Arab nations that oppose Iran on religious/ideological grounds.

But our military and covert operations in the Middle East seldom if ever produce the desired results. Albert Einstein defined insanity as doing the same things over and over again, expecting different results. By that definition our government and Israel's are insane.

It seems the heads of Israel's intelligence services believe that another war is not going to make things better, but worse. Israel's Defense Minister and military chief of staff have added their voices on the side of peace, saying that Iran is a rational actor.

But it seems the GOP lacks the intelligence and wisdom to see that wars in the Middle East cost thousands of lives and trillions of dollars and yet resolve little or nothing.

President Obama is trying to use diplomacy rather than starting yet another war. I think Obama relies too much on military operations, covert ops, drones, etc., and would be wiser to seek less violent solutions. But he is trying to end the wars, get our troops out of the region, and avoid a new war with Iran.

So I think he is clearly a far better choice than Romney, who either lies through his teeth to get votes, or is ready to side with Israel's warmongers despite the fact that the smartest people in Israel are telling us that they're religious fanatics and idiots.

By: yogiman on 5/4/12 at 11:26

Mike,

Thanks for your editing my comment. I re-read it and I think the proper grammar should have been, "If you are..."

And, Mike, your remark, "(i)f George W. Bush was a "legal" president, that makes intelligent Kenyans look all the more attractive!"

Regardless of his tenure as president, George W. Bush was a legal president because he is natural born American citizen. That fact has been proven. Barry Soetoro (a.k.a. Barack Obama) is not a natural born American citizen.

Don't you think a man of his "intelligence" would readily show his legitimate birth certificate to prove it and put all of the questions in a trash bag?

You're making your intelligence equal to your ignorance when you so quickly and easily accept a person as "your" president when you don't even know his legitimate name. So who did you vote for, Barry Soetoro, or Barack Obama? Who is that man? What intelligence is he showing by using the telepromter when giving a speech?

By: Mike Burch on 5/4/12 at 11:28

BenDover,

Is it in the "national interest" for the US government to join Israel in denying human rights to Palestinians, which lies at the root of 9-11 and the subsequent wars?

How many Americans died during 9-11 and in the wars, and how many trillions of dollars went down the drain, because American Christians and Israeli Jews entered into an unholy alliance to allow Israel to strip Palestinians of their freedom and rights, and steal their land ... a process of ethnic cleansing that has been going on for more than 60 years?

The oppressors always blame their victims. American white supremacists blamed Native Americans and African Americans. Nazis blamed the Jews. Now Americans blame Islam, when in reality it was Israel and the US that started the whole mess with the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in the name of God and country.

When the honest histories of the conflict are finally written, it will not be Muslims or Islam at fault, but the Jews and Christians who acted like fascists in the Middle East, praising their religion, culture and "democracy" to the skies, while doing the same things to Muslims that were once done to Native Americans, African Americans and Jews.

But as Jonathan Swift said, "There is none so blind as he who will not see."

By: Moonglow1 on 5/4/12 at 11:38

Moonglow1: I might also add that the Republicans (or shall i say that the extremists who have taken over the Grand Old Party), are also blaming the citizens of the United States for causing the global economic collapse. These extremists are blaming the people and thereby the victims of this economic collapse. According to these extremists, it is we the people, the poor citizens through our generous "entitlements" who have caused this mess. Ah, so now the wealthy (over 10 mil) are feigning outrage. Why, because they want more money, more power, and thus more control.

What a brilliant branding campaign they are running!

By: BenDover on 5/4/12 at 11:53

That's a very one-sided history you enjoy there Burch... your underdog emotion has lead to substantial rationalizations that ignore the complex history of the region.

By: Rasputin72 on 5/4/12 at 12:20

Mike, Thanks for your resume. You should be glad that this is the era for nerds. In my generation we did not pay much attention to them,.

By the way, my aspirations to be a teacher stopped with a political science class. Computer Science was for a later generation. I can imagine the glee you must have for being born at the right time for your talents. One other thing, I think you and other class envy people will be very successful in your goal of stirring the underclass into a revolt unseen since the civil war.

I too have been lucky. I was born in an era that encourged "those who get there fustest with the mostest am the winner." I expect however to be out of here before the people you support find out that you are no longer of any value. At that time you may find yourself back in a world like I came from with no one to protect you from the "bullies"

By: yogiman on 5/4/12 at 12:23

Moonglow1,

I can only presume the vast majority of the posters on this site are Democrats who think the democratic party is so superior to the Republicans in their role of supporting the nation.

May I suggest you look into HR 998 and S 555 and see how many Democrats, and how many Republicans, voted in favor of teaching the children of today about homosexuality in the public schools.

If you are in favor of taking this nation into communism, relax, Barry's well on his way to accomplish it.

By: MusicCity615 on 5/4/12 at 12:24

Mike Burch-

I have brought some points to you but you seem to be reluctant in answering them. I find it odd that you state Einstein by saying "insanity is doing the same things over and over again, expecting different results. By that definition our government and Israel's are insane."

While I agree this is true, America is on a path to economic turmoil by doing what the PIIGS countries are doing. We have seen their collapse, yet obama has done nothing to put a better economic path. You can sit around a fire and sing kumbayas all you want, but if there are no jobs, no economy, America and the world will fall. Then all the people still blaming Bush when it's 2014 will be told to STFU.

By: dargent7 on 5/4/12 at 12:25

Big Mike:
Let me give you a personal tip...don't recite your resume to this, or any other board.
It shows weakness.
You had the "highest ACT scores"? These morons don't know what the ACT is.
Bill Gates scored a perfect 800 on the math portion of the SAT's. Think he talks about it? No.
My favorite quotes are always from The Three Stooges, Young Frankenstein, Animal House, and Caddy Shack.
"Seven years of college, down the drain..." "We graduated with the lowest possible honors..." "Abby Normal...yes, I think that was the brain's name..."
"Hey, Whitey, where's your hat"? "A hundred bucks you slice into the woods..."

By: Mike Burch on 5/4/12 at 2:03

MusicCity615,

I think President Obama is doing the single most important thing to repair the damage to our economy, by trying to wind down the current wars and avoid starting a new one with Iran. That will not only save trillions of dollars in direct war costs, but also in even larger indirect costs. A major factor in the current recession was the leap in the price of oil when GWB decided to invade Iraq.

The wars have cost us mind-boggling amounts of money. The government is not being honest about the real cost of the wars. One non-partisan budget watchdog group said that half the total budget deficit can be attributed to military spending and the wars.

The only real fiscal conservative among the major GOP presidential candidates was Ron Paul. But when he talked about all the money our nation could save by not waging war overseas and maintaining a global military empire, he was booed. When Romney and the other candidates talked about supporting Israel and going to war with Iran, the crowds cheered.

This is the kind of behavior that led to Germany overextending itself and eventually being destroyed. It's a big world and the US does not have the money or the military power to subdue the rest of the world. But the GOP and its moronic base don't understand simple math.

The single worst thing we can do is get involved in more wars in the Middle East. The best thing we can do, if we don't want to go bankrupt, is spend a lot less money on destructive military campaigns that solve nothing in the end.

By: Mike Burch on 5/4/12 at 2:15

Moonglow1,

You said, "What a brilliant branding campaign they are running!"

I don't think the GOP is capable of brilliance. I think it's more likely that P.T. Barnum was correct, and there are lots of suckers out there in the American voting public. They would would probably vote for Hitler today if instead of demonizing the Jews, he demonized Muslims, gays, union workers, liberals, et al.

As Einstein pointed out in his letter to the New York Times in 1948, hallmarks of fascism include racism, militarism, religious fanaticism and attacking unions. Einstein correctly pointed out what fascist leaders like Menachem Begin would do to the state of Israel. Now we face a similar problem with the neo-fascists running the GOP and pandering for votes from bigots, gun nuts, conspiracy theorists and religious fanatics.

By: slacker on 5/4/12 at 2:51

Geez Burch... with your resume, you surely must have been involved with the moon landing. Is Neil Armstrong a good guy?

By: MusicCity615 on 5/4/12 at 2:51

Mike Burch-

Democrats voted for the wars, too. This isn't as black as white as you want to make it out to be.

By: bfra on 5/4/12 at 3:14

MusicCity615 - That pitiful excuse has been dismissed ages ago for anyone that has sense enough to read. The votes came with the LIES Bush/Cheney fed everybody. By-the-way, have you found any WMDs yet? LOL

By: Mike Burch on 5/4/12 at 3:18

MusicCity615,

If you study the votes on the war with Iraq, Barack Obama and the majority of Democrats voted against it. We could have saved thousands of lives and trillions of dollars if we hadn't invaded Iraq. The Bush administration lied to the American public and Congress by saying there was evidence of WMDs in Iraq. But there were no WMDs, as we now know. It turns out that an Iraqi informant code-named "Curveball" made up the stuff about WMDs because he wanted the US to "take out' Saddam Hussein. So it seems one liar was able to provide the "reason" for the war and no one in the Bush administration bothered to verify the facts. When Valerie Plame and her husband tried to bring the truth to the light, they were attacked by the Bush administration, on the instructions of Dick Cheney. That seems to suggest that Cheney knew that the information was false and was acting to protect himself from charges of treason.

If you read what the Bush administration higher-ups said about the war, their hubris and stupidity is completely apparent:

Bring 'em on!―George W. Bush

Deficits don't matter.―Dick Cheney

We will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.―Dick Cheney

I don't do quagmires.―Donald Rumsfeld

The Iraqi forces are conducting the Mother of all Retreats.―Dick Cheney

With every advance by our coalition forces, the wisdom of [our] plan becomes more apparent.―Dick Cheney

I don’t do body counts.―Donald Rumsfeld

We don't do body counts.―General Tommy Franks, commander of the invasion of Iraq

In politics, every day is filled with numerous opportunities for serious error. Enjoy it.―Donald Rumsfeld

I can't tell you if the use of force in Iraq today will last five days, five weeks or five months, but it won't last any longer than that.―Donald Rumsfeld

I think this is a very hard choice, but the price: we think the price is worth it.―Secretary of State Madeleine Albright

During a 60 Minutes episode that aired on May 12, 1996, Lesley Stahl asked Secretary of State Madeleine Albright the following question about U.S. sanctions against Iraq: "We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" Albright replied, "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price: we think the price is worth it." Please note that even when appearing on a major news show with millions of viewers, Albright made no attempt to deny the figure given by Stahl—a rough rendering of the preliminary estimate in a 1995 U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) report that 567,000 Iraqi children under the age of five had died as a result of the sanctions. And yet while more than half a million Iraqi children were dying of starvation, Saddam Hussein was building more palaces. The U.S. later ended up invading Iraq and waging war for nearly a decade, with generally terrible and still-inconclusive results. Was the price "worth it," really? What if the children had been American children ... would the price still have been worth it?

Free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction. ―George W. Bush [who seems to have forgotten that the United States has thousands of WMDs, and that its ally Israel has hundreds of nukes and has never signed a non-proliferation treaty or allowed inspections of its nuclear facilities]

I have written a book. This will come as quite a shock to some. They didn't think I could read, much less write.―George W. Bush [true, but we're convinced you had lots of help]

I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace.―George W. Bush [yes, we do understand that you are a past master of doublespeak]

I think you can judge from somebody's actions a kind of a stability and sense of purpose perhaps created by strong religious roots. I mean, there's a certain patience, a certain discipline, I think, that religion helps you achieve.―George W. Bush [this from the most impatient, undisciplined, reckless president in the history of the United States]

When you turn your heart and your life over to Christ, when you accept Christ as the savior, it changes your heart.―George W. Bush [if only it helped change your brain too!]

Saddam Hussein is a homicidal dictator who is addicted to weapons of mass destruction.―George W. Bush [is the kettle calling the teapot black?]

There are a lot of people who lie and get away with it, and that's just a fact.―Donald Rumsfeld [Et tu, Brute?]

On May 1, 2003 a banner reading "Mission Accomplished" was waving on the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln during a televised address by George W. Bush. Bush claimed that major combat operations in Iraq were over, but the vast majority of casualties, both military and civilian, occurred after his speech. Bush's jet landing on the carrier was criticized as an overly theatrical and expensive stunt, since the carrier was well within range of Bush's helicopter. Originally the White House claimed that the carrier was too far off the California coast for a helicopter landing but White House spokesman Ari Fleischer later admitted that Bush "could have helicoptered [aboard], but the plan was already in place." As the Scottish poet Bobby Burns once said, "The best laid plans of mice and men gang of a-gly," which makes me think of the perfect closing lines by someone who's an expert on deceit ...

There comes a time when deceit and defiance must be seen for what they are. At that point, a gathering danger must be directly confronted.―Dick Cheney

By: Moonglow1 on 5/4/12 at 3:53

Moonglow1: The following quote from Richard Nixon regarding Rumsfeld: He's a ruthless little b@st**d, you can be sure of that. "
Taxpayers are paying for the F-22 at a cost of $70 billion for a fighter we can't use in "The War on Terror. "
Our politicians are corrupt. Defense contractors have a hand in directing foreign policy, they are protected by politicians- a cozy arrangement with you and me footing the bill. Defense contractors have a product and they need a market. A continuous war is perfect for their "business model. "

By: MusicCity615 on 5/4/12 at 4:21

Mike, BFRA-

I am not in favor of the Iraq war not am I a Bush supporter, but 111 Democrats in Congress voted in favor of the Iraq War, so you putting the blame solely on republicans is just wrong.

BFRA you claim that the poor poor dems were led on by lies? Dems are grown ups, they should have done some investigating themselves if the lies were so apparent.

I'm finished with this nonsense.

It's people like Burch that have a completely different view from the republicans but ironically has the same "my way or the highway" attitude as all the republicans he hates. America needs a leader that brings 100% of Americans together, not 99%, not 1%.

By: yogiman on 5/4/12 at 4:25

Mike,

The first war I remember our nation being in is WWII. And I hate to tell you this, but we've been in one war after another in the past 7 decades.

Can you come up with someone in the Oval Office (legally) that can get us out and keep us out of a war until the world falls apart?

War is hell, and you can ask any veteran involved in one on that matter. But war is, regrettably, a major use for the control of the world's population.

The fact that life expectancy today is much higher than 5 decades ago. Old age is becoming very popular now, but it must be kept under control one way or another.

If it wasn't war, what would it be, accidents? Or killing each other?

By: Moonglow1 on 5/4/12 at 4:30

Moonglow1:

quote from Yogi above: The fact that life expectancy today is much higher than 5 decades ago. Old age is becoming very popular now, but it must be kept under control one way or another.

If it wasn't war, what would it be, accidents? Or killing each other?

Yogi, are you kidding me? You actually advocate genocide paid for by our tax dollars executed by the defense contractors? Who goes first? You?

By: Moonglow1 on 5/4/12 at 4:31

Moonglow1: Loner, are you in for the wrap up of the day? Check out the Yogi one?

By: Captain Nemo on 5/4/12 at 4:34

The war in Iraq was a waste of human life. I hold Cheney and his puppet to blame for this. I hold Congress and the news media for not looking into the lies.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/4/12 at 4:42

If yogi had brains instead of “braids” he would know just how idiotic his dysfunction head is functioningless. (sic)

By: Captain Nemo on 5/4/12 at 4:46

If yogi’s parents had of just drowned him when he was a baby, we would not have to deal with a populations inbreeds and pigs looking like yogi.

By: Mike Burch on 5/4/12 at 8:02

Nemo,

The book "Angler" about the Cheney vice presidency explains how GWB was "not a detail person" so he "outsourced" the war decisions to Cheney.

Rumsfeld would include Bible verses with his requests for permission to launch attacks.

I think Cheney and Rumsfeld used GWB to set their plans in motion. After seeing how easily our military took out Iraq's military in the Gulf War, they thought two quick victories in Afghanistan and Iraq would force Muslim nations to submit to the US and control of Iraq's oil fields would pay for the costs of the wars. But when US troops weren't welcomed as saviors and the insurgency began, the whole evil scheme fell apart.

I think GWB, Cheney and Rumsfeld should be tried for treason and war crimes.

By: pswindle on 5/4/12 at 10:42

Netanyahu came to Washingtin DC to tell Presdietn Obama what he wanted to do with Iran. But, our cool President told him what was the right thing to do, and he never swayed from it. Presdient Obama is the right man on the economy. When he gets 60 votes in the senate, you will see our economy take off. Right now the GOP is trying to make the country go bust becasue they want to elect a GOP man. God help us all .

By: yogiman on 5/5/12 at 12:00

Mike,

Check out House bill HR 998 and Senate bill S 555 and see how many co-sponsors on each bill were of the Republican side. On a bill forcing homosexual education on the children in pub;ic school.

And they're what you want to rule our nation?

By: Loner on 5/5/12 at 7:08

Good morning, Nashville.

It's an overcast morning here, in Watkins Glen, NY, on Seneca Lake....posting from my motel room

I read the hackneyed criticisms leveled against Mike Burch and his missive...same old sweat-stained, worn-out allegations. This is to be expected, the US major media, the 4th estate, is owned & operated by Christian and Jewish Zionists...the pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian bias in US news is palpable.

US Christians serve as extremely useful, if not essential idiots for Zionism. These End Times believers wave the US flag, but they take their geo-political marching orders from the Israelis.....Christians are pathetic Jewish wannabes....Christianity is nothing more than heretical Judaism practiced by misled Gentiles.

The Great Theocratic Wars of the 20th &21st Centuries began on may 15, 1948, when the British abandoned Palestine and turned the damned place over to the armed religious zealots....that religion-based conflict has now spread globally.

The War Super Lobby is a tripartite consortium consisting of the 3 most powerful lobbies in Washington : Defense, Israel, Energy...DIE. Those who long for world peace must confront and attack all three parts of the War Super Lobby...or else they are spinning their wheels and wasting their time.

By: Ask01 on 5/5/12 at 8:51

As far as Middle East allies go, I have concerns to some degree about all of them. Yes, even Israel which seems to be among the more stable nations in that region. Israel has a problem with their right wing as much as many other countries, and while I support their right to exist, we need to ensure we do not allow ourselves to be drawn into a war of their making. There are limits.

As far as Mitt Romney, I have an uneasy feeling about him or any other person who runs boasting of their expertise running large corporations, businesses, or any other entepreneurial enterprise as if the experience grants them some special insight.

Honestly, considering my abysmal opinion of corporate America (or are we spelling it "Amerika" now?) closing stores, putting so many out of work, claiming the need to "save the company" while posting record profits and awarding obscene bonuses to the elite upper management, I fear the only way I would vote for such a person would be if Satan was the only other choice. Wait, strike that. At least with the Prince of Darkness, we know what evil we are electing as opposed to a two faced, conniving politician who hides the true agenda.

I often self identify as a moderate conservative liberal, however, for many years, the right wing conservatives have driven so close to the guard rail, I have been unable to identify with them.

Personal experience during this recession, going from being regarded as a respected working citizen to, unemployed, ungrateful, blight on society overnight has shown me how the true face of the conservative right wing.

The air of superiority, a certain arrogance the employed assume toward those less fortunate is, sadly an attitude I shared.....until I was laid off. Almost instantly, I was regarded as a leper, a social outcast by those still employed, enjoying the false security.

I hold not the Democrats, but the Republicans, Big Business, and Corporate America (Amerika?) to blame for the recession. The latter three allowed the recession and instead of keeping Americans working and businesses operating by accepting lower compensation, they sold out the workers and protected themselves. When people were out of work, seeking employment to get away from dependence on government, the Axis, Republicans, Big Business and Corporate America continued to allow reductions in the available jobs and began complaining about all the lazy bums drawing unemployment. Naturally, those employed joined in blissfully unaware how vulnerable their position.

Sorry for the excessive, rambling, seemingly disjointed rant, but I hope I was able to convey my position.

If not here, I will definitely do so at the polls this election, as will many others.

By: govskeptic on 5/5/12 at 8:56

These resumes' to point out brilliance, economic and intelligent superiority
in views and writing are hilarious!

By: Mike Burch on 5/5/12 at 1:14

pswindle,

I agree.

I think President Obama is more likely to stand up to Bibi Netan-YAHOO, while Romney seemed to say that he wouldn't open his mouth until Bibi told him what to say.

I think we need a Democratic majority in both Houses, to keep the GOP from sending women back to the Stone Age and our children to wars without end.

The only major Republican presidential candidate who is actually a conservative is Ron Paul, who would save trillions of dollars by not wasting it overseas on wars and military bases that, in effect, cause American taxpayers to pay for the defense of other nations, many of which abuse women, torture dissidents, etc.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Ron Paul speaks at the Republican National Convention.

By: Mike Burch on 5/5/12 at 1:24

Yogi,

No one is "forcing" any student to become a homosexual. The GOP is trying to enforce a false morality on Americans with stupid bills like "don't say gay."

I am attracted to women, not men, and nothing anyone else does is going to make suddenly want to shack up with a man. But it's no skin off my nose if some men are attracted to other men. Laws should be designed to protect us from other people harming us unjustly. We don't need laws that protect us from things that do us no harm, or from honest discussions of human sexuality.

Kids watch TV and they are going to know about sex -- straight and homosexual -- at early ages. When I was a boy, I knew about sex from all sorts of sources outside school. So it is beyond stupid to pass bills that try to "protect" students from discussions about sexuality. They are going to be talking about sex on the playground, in the lunchroom, etc. So why not allow honest discussions where they are likely to get better quality information?

The GOP has lost its marbles. Just look at all the insane bills the GOP has passed, or tried to pass, recently. Do we want the nation to be run by people who act like ostriches, sticking their heads in the sand and exposing their asses?

By: Mike Burch on 5/5/12 at 1:44

Loner,

I agree. If we want to avoid national bankruptcy, we need to decapitate the three-headed hydra: DIE.

Defense = a warmongering offense that costs trillions of dollars, thousands of American lives, and only makes the world more dangerous for everyone.

Israel = a nation that takes billions of dollars from American taxpayers and uses it to steal land that it doesn't need from Palestinians, turning the Muslim world against the US and leading to 9-11 and two catastrophic wars.

Energy = big oil, which threatens to destroy the environment.

The glue holding this unholy Trinity together is the Christian religion, which took a compassionate man of peace, Jesus, and threw out all his good teachings (such as the rich helping rather than oppressing the poor). Now Jesus is a bigot who prefers Jews to Palestinians, Christians to Muslims, and warmongers to peacemakers. The GOP, which professes not to believe in evolution, is actually the party of Darwinism. It advocates social and economic Darwinism: the survival of the richest, most powerful, most ruthless 1% at the expense of everyone else.

Dumbed-down Christians refuse to read the Bible honestly, and see that the Hebrew prophets, Jesus and the apostles were saying exactly the opposite of what the GOP is saying and doing. The GOP serves the money and power of special interests. It uses a false religion (the religion of the Pharisees) to persuade the ignorant, gullible and uneducated masses to vote for their oppressors.

As Mark Twain pointed out, the Bible was once used to condone slavery in churches and schools throughout the United States. Today the Bible is being used to turn American children of all colors into the willing serfs of the 1%, who will laugh all the way to the bank ... until the US goes bankrupt, or the environment implodes, and everyone suffers together.

If we want our children and grandchildren to have a chance at a decent life, we need to get smart, quickly.

By: Mike Burch on 5/5/12 at 1:52

Ask01,

I enjoyed your "rambling" and you made very good points.

I think the single biggest thing we can do, economically, is listen to Ron Paul and either end or drastically reduce the money we waste overseas on wars and a global military empire. The Democrats are better than Republicans on this very important issue, but I think we need to put pressure on Democrats to stop wasting so many American lives and dollars overseas.

On virtually every social issue, the Democrats are better than Republicans. I say this as a former Reagan Republican.

The GOP says that it wants smaller government, but as soon as Republicans get elected they start passing all sorts of insane bills: "don't say gay," etc.

And the GOP insists on preserving tax cuts for the rich, which forces average working Joes to fund the wars, the lust of big oil for Middle Eastern influence, etc.

So for me the solution is two-phased: (1) first, vote Republicans out of office, then (2) put pressure on Democrats to live up their stated ideals and come up with a fairer system that doesn't waste trillions of dollars on destructive wars that solve nothing.

By: yogiman on 5/5/12 at 2:20

House Bill 347 was passed recently 399-3. All Tennessee Representative voted in favor of that bill.

I suggest everyone on this site check that bill out... unless you're ready for a takeover by the communist regime.

By: Mike Burch on 5/5/12 at 8:07

Yogi,

House Bill 347 doesn't seem all that ominous:

As introduced, subject to local approval, grants the county legislative body broader authority to set compensation for county highway commissioners, rather than setting a specific compensation in the charter. - Amends Chapter 53 of the Private Acts of 1985.

By: yogiman on 5/6/12 at 7:42

Mike,

That bill basically takes away freedom of speech. The bill was dubbed the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. This bill makes it illegal to trespass on the grounds of the White House, which, on the surface seems harmless, but it extends the government's right to go after the trespasser.

And you're subject to up to 10 years in prison for walking on the grounds of the White House.

Under that act, the government is also given power to bring charges against Americans engaged in political protest anywhere in the country.

That is simply to take away your rights to free speech, Mike. It is one more step to communism.

By: Ask01 on 5/6/12 at 8:27

Mike, I see I am, sadly, a day late and a dollar short with my post.

I too, researched the referenced bill and had to filter all manner of similarly numbered pieces of legislation from many other states.

By chance, I happened upon the correct item, a product of our proud federal government which it does seem could severely limit citizens rights.

Now, here is the kicker not mentioned by the original poster. The Bill was sponsored by, not a Democrat, a covert, closeted communist, but by a Republican, Rep. Thomas Rooney of Florida.

You might be interested in how the vote on this seemingly Fascist Bill broke down along party lines. I'm glad you asked.

Totals % Republican Democrat
Nay 3 1% 2 1

Yea 388 90% 224 164

Not Voting 42 10% 15 27

Surprisingly, (or maybe not,) the political party, Republican, being touted by some as the best chance to save America, led the way approving this Bill.

Not that the Democrats were without representation in passing the Bill in question. They seem to have done nothing in opposition and Presiden Obama did, according to my sources, sign the Bill.

So, whom do we hold responsible for this attack on the Constitution? The Republicans who proposed and were in the majority voting Yea, or the Democratic president who signed the legislation?

I see storm clouds gathering, and hear distant thunder. I'm not a weatherman, but I do predict bad publicity for Republicans.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/6/12 at 10:57

I agree Mike they should be tried for treason and war crimes.

I like Ask01’s ramblings too.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/6/12 at 11:01

By: Mike Burch on 5/5/12 at 1:24
Yogi,
No one is "forcing" any student to become a homosexual. The GOP is trying to enforce a false morality on Americans with stupid bills like "don't say gay."
Mike yogi is a closet something, because his daddy kept him locked in the closet repeatedly.

By: yogiman on 5/6/12 at 12:37

nimrod,

I hate to say it, but you are pathetic with your frame of mind and the only thing you know how to talk about.

Its convenient to make such comments on the internet. How about talking to me in such manner face to face. Have you got the guts?

I doubt it, because when I offered to meet you before, you never showed up.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/6/12 at 1:15

There you go again yogi always talking on the computer. If you remember, you never agreed to show up and only did you say you showed was after I said I did not have time to wait you your answer.

You bragged that you showed up and that I was not there, but this was later in the day after you read where I said I did not go. I found out later that you were never there yourself.

The day we meet yogi, be sure you bring extra diapers, I sure that you will wet yourself for sure.

Not shut up ols boy.

By: yogiman on 5/6/12 at 1:15

Ask01,

Did we read the same results on HB 347? I saw it as:

Nay; 3 Republicans, 0 Democrats Total: 3
No: 223 Republican, 176 Democrat Total: 399
Did not vote: 14 Republicans, 16 Democrats Total: 30

The bill passed by the vote.

That bill is just one more step in the control of the population, and with the congress we have today, it's hard to tell the difference between the two parties.

I think the leading third party today is the Communist Party mixed by the two others.

By: Ask01 on 5/6/12 at 1:26

See below.

H.R. 347: Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds ... (On the Senate Amendment)
Number:
House Vote #73 [primary source: house.gov]
Date:
Feb 27, 2012 (112th Congress)
Result:
Passed
Related Bill:
H.R. 347: Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011
Introduced by Rep. Thomas Rooney [R-FL16] on January 19, 2011
Current Status: Signed by the President
This was a vote to approve or reject a bill or resolution.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h73

By: Captain Nemo on 5/6/12 at 2:08

Ask01 yogi has a hard time of comprehending the most uncomplicated of conception. When he is mystified about simple subjects he changes the subject to Obama’s birth. Or if faced with the truth he wants to meet and fight.