Burch: The roots of terrorism

Thursday, May 5, 2011 at 10:05pm
By Michael R. Burch

The front page of Tuesday’s The Tennessean hailed the death of Osama bin Laden as a “Victory For Freedom” while calling him “the very face and embodiment of evil” and a man whose “actions, words and beliefs were about destroying our way of life.”

According to The Tennessean, and many other American newspapers, it sounds as if bin Laden had nothing else on his mind but making Americans miserable for unfathomable reasons.

But does this image of bin Laden jibe with reality? Now that he’s gone, will Americans be safe from terrorism, since he was clearly irrational to attack us for no reason? Is the madness finally over with the death of the madman?

All around Nashville there is a jumble of emotions: celebration bordering on jingoism, more reserved feelings of hope and relief, and of course more than a few doubts.

The media image of bin Laden is not entirely accurate, and we’re probably no safer with him dead than when he was alive. Unfortunately, we will continue to live in jeopardy of events like 9-11 until we finally face the hard facts and understand why 9-11 happened. (Please understand that I am in no way excusing bin Laden’s masterminding the murders of so many innocent American civilians. I simply believe that if we want peace, it does no good to demonize him while ignoring the cataclysmic mistakes our government made in the Middle East, as those errors helped lead to 9-11 and the subsequent wars.)

The key to understanding Muslim terrorism against the U.S. lies in the Nakba (“Catastrophe”) of the Palestinian people. Here’s what bin Laden said about 9-11, as reported widely by various sources:

"Allah knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were those of 1982 and the events that followed when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet. As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me to punish the unjust the same way [and] to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women."

In a diary entry eerily dated 9-11 (1983), Ronald Reagan wrote prophetically that the U.S. Sixth Fleet shelling Lebanon “could be seen as putting us in the war.”

According to many Muslims — including the vast majority who do not approve of bin Laden’s methods — Americans are hypocrites because our government has caused untold suffering to millions of completely innocent Palestinian women and children over the last 60 years. From bin Laden’s point of view, he chose to fight fire with fire, killing Americans because Americans caused so much suffering and death among innocent Muslim women and children.

Today millions of Palestinian women and children continue to suffer, and many die prematurely, due to the injustices of Israel’s government. Our government continues to hypocritically preach sermons about “equal rights” and “democracy” to the rest of the world, while vetoing one U.N. resolution after another that could have required Israel to treat Palestinians like human beings, rather than herding them into giant corrals while their ever-dwindling land is stolen by Israeli “settlers.” If we want a real, just, lasting peace, killing extremists accomplishes little or nothing because such terrible injustices only produce a never-ending supply. The path to peace can only materialize if Israel and the U.S. recognize the human rights of Palestinians before World War III erupts.

Yes, bin Laden was a mass murderer. But because causing innocent women and children to suffer and die is a terrible crime, we need our government to look in the mirror.

Michael R. Burch is a Nashville-based editor and publisher of Holocaust poetry and other “things literary” at www.thehypertexts.com.

 
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130 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 5:08

This is a superbly written piece and I totally agree with Mr. Burch's conclusions.

It takes real courage to stand up and criticize the US-Israel "special relationship". Those who dare to complain about the fact that the US, for all practical purposes, is a vassal state of the Jewish state can expect to be demonized as "Jew-haters", "terrorist enablers" etc. I salute Mike Burch for his fortitude.

The Israelis are now in a dither...with OBL's assassination, Obama has obtained
"hero status" and the Israelis are depressed about that; they thought that they had Obama pinned to the mat and they assumed that US Republicans would join the Israeli PM :Bibi" Netanyahu in demanding that Obama be rebuked, so that US can do even more for Israel's sake.

PM Netanyahu will be addressing Congress and the most powerful of lobbies - AIPAC - during the third week of May. He had planned on smugly dictating ME policy to an unpopular US President...that plan will have to be modified. Bibi is miffed and sullen.

Joe Biden would be much more sympathetic to Israel's needs; just as LBJ was much more pro-Israel than JFK was. The Israelis operate their own international hit squads and they feel an existential threat under President Obama. The Israelis are not inclined to see Obama re-elected in 2012. Joe Biden has his yarmulke ready, he's got his mind right.....stand by for perfidy.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/6/11 at 5:23

good article, Mike.

By: house_of_pain on 5/6/11 at 5:27

Good letter, Mike.
Mornin', all. TGIF.

By: dargent7 on 5/6/11 at 5:35

Horrible article.
How anyone can rationalize what occured on 9/11 is beyond comprehension.
9/11 was the creme-de-la-creme of these jihadist's mission.
Not just in America they've attempted to blow up the World Trade Center in 1993 with a Ryder van filled with fertilizer.
Then they rammed the USS Cole, by raft, killing US servicemen.
Besides Embassies all around the world, check points, poilce recruiting stations, mosques, their method of madness is self detonation and to take as many with them as possible.
The 9/11 psychos incinerated themselves at over 2,500 degrees, WHILE ALIVE.
I'm no fan of US military actions 90% of the time, and the 20 year presense we've had in the Middle East under both Bush's is on par with the worst decisions Presidents can make for all the wrong reasons.
But, I'm not looking in any mirror to validate and sanctify what these monsters are doing, specifically targeting America when so many want to and do live here.

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 5:36

Good morning, BN, House and everyone else...It's a beautiful day dawning, here on the Erie Canal....momma Nature is coming back to life....if it would just warm up a bit, it would be ideal....it was down into the thirties around here last night.

Finally got the lawn under control...it was just too wet to get out there any sooner. Lawns are looking lavishly lush locally. Must be the Fukushima rain.

By: yogiman on 5/6/11 at 5:38

I agree with Mr. Burch in many ways, but this world, as we all know it, has been in one war after another since this earth was founded.

There is only two reason for a war to commence: Religion and power, and I think they are all jealous of each other.

By: house_of_pain on 5/6/11 at 5:43

A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call up the guy and hold the burning fuse to the phone. "Hear that?" you say. "That's dynamite, baby."

- Jack Handey

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 5:50

Darge, Mike is not condoning the Al Qaeda attacks, he understands and is reiterating the perpetrator's stated motivations...that's a big difference....a HUGE difference.

If we do not address the injustices that spawned Obama's hatred for the USA, new terrorist superstars will emerge in the future. A state-sponsored hit-squad terminated the effect, the cause still remains and still infects human minds.

Mike is not saying that, "America had it coming." Mike is cautioning us not to forget the stated reasons why Al Qaeda attacked us. Only fools would ignore their enemy's casus belli....and so far, America has been foolish enough to ignore the causes of the Arab and Muslim antipathy.

PS: Mornin' Darge....are the NCP Misfits meeting this Sunday?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/6/11 at 5:51

TGIF, folks. I don't think Mike is excusing 9-11, he's just shedding light on a different perspect which helps explain why 9-11 happened.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/6/11 at 5:51

s/h/b perspective. NEEED MORE COFFEEEEE

By: govskeptic on 5/6/11 at 5:55

Another Friday tongue lashing from usual suspect on the disgusting
history of America, it's misadventures, previous leaders, foreign
policy, and support of Israel as the sin-of -sins!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/6/11 at 5:56

another critical comment from a usual suspect from the file of America Does No Wrong.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 5/6/11 at 5:57

there's consequences to our actions and policies. what's wrong with stating such?

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 5:58

LOL, House. That's kind of what Junior Bush did in his fiery oratory after the 9-11 attacks.... he blew up America....draining the US Treasury by fighting two simultaneous and hugely expensive elective wars, while cutting taxes for the rich and the corporations......KABOOM!! The explosion took place on Sept. 15, 2008...President Obama is still cleaning up the debris.

By: house_of_pain on 5/6/11 at 6:00

I think we're meeting up @ the new bar in Sylvan Park, Loner.
Pending approval from d7, Nemo, & possibly MamaG.

By: dargent7 on 5/6/11 at 6:08

"Consequences" to our actions? 3,000 killed in 1 day is a "rightful, due diligence", consequence?
9/11 was the epitome of these psycho's attempt to destroy what America stands for.
Capitalism, Democracy, Christianity, The Bill of Rights.
Blowing up trucks wasn't doing the job, rafts raming Naval destroyers was small change. So, these nuts came up with flying planes into buildings to get the 72 virgins right after they shook hands with Al'lah. You know they were on their way to the White House, killing members of Congress, even the President himself. All for how Israel treats Palistine?
Their whole cosmology is antithetical to what America stands for.
Their "rub" isn't soley based on our relationship with Israel.
We are to them the "Great Satan" and it's in their blood and mind to destroy us.
No mirrors here.

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 6:10

Bin Laden's stated reasons for his hatred for America have not been widely circulated in the US mainstream media; if they were published and discussed more often and more openly, then the US-Israel "Special Relationship' might be imperiled and that is just not acceptable to the Christian and Jewish Zionists who actually own and operate the US major media, the US Congress and the White House....as Helen Thomas boldly explained.

Mike Burch has performed a valuable public service by reminding us of the real reason we were hit on 9-11, not the phony reasons that were invented, composed and trumpeted by the Israel lobby, the Zionist-friendly media and the AIPAC-beholden politicians.

Bravo, Mike Burch!

By: gdiafante on 5/6/11 at 6:10

"...has been in one war after another since this earth was founded."

The earth was founded? Yogi knows...it was his alien race that found it.

By: dargent7 on 5/6/11 at 6:13

yogi: Religion, power, and resource...OIL.
That's the only reason we're in the Middle East.
The "human rights" crusade and democracy only furnishes a convient, acceptable, smoke screen.

By: gdiafante on 5/6/11 at 6:16

We could forcibly establish a Palestinian state tomorrow and we would still be considered the enemy by extremists.

And darge is correct. People should really stop trying to rationalize 9/11.

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 6:30

Speaking of "the phony reasons (for the 9-11 attacks) that were invented, composed and trumpeted by the Israel lobby, the Zionist-friendly media and the AIPAC-beholden politicians"... like an automaton, Darge just ticked off the top Israeli-generated canards.

Darge wrote: "9/11 was the epitome of these psycho's attempt to destroy what America stands for. Capitalism, Democracy, Christianity, The Bill of Rights....Their whole cosmology is antithetical to what America stands for. Their "rub" isn't soley based on our relationship with Israel. We are to them the "Great Satan" and it's in their blood and mind to destroy us. "

Wow! Darge is a smart fellow, but sometimes he can be gullible...the fact that he could absorb that much Kosher Kool-Aid and still function is uncanny. Sadly, the vast majority of Americans agree with Dargent7 and believe the concocted reasons for Bin Laden's wrath.

Why would OBL lie about his reasons for hating the US? It simply doesn't make sense for him to lie about it. It does make sense, however, for the pro-Israel crowd to lie about OBL's motives for the attacks. Take it from there and draw your own conclusions.

If we don't alter our oppressive, counter-productive ME policies, the 3,000 who died on 9-11 may have died in vain. And thousands more may join them as human sacrifice, to make the world safe for apartheid Zionism in the Holy Land.

Holy Wars Suck.

By: Kosh III on 5/6/11 at 6:46

Not to change the subject tooo much but----

Regarding the Republican laser focus on jobs, Haslam yesterday announced a 50 million dollar welfare check to private businesses:
"will encourage private businesses to invest and grow, employing more."

Then he also added:

“Jobs aren't created on Capitol Hill,” Haslam said.

So all that rhetoric about the economy last year during the campaign was just what? lies? hyperbola? rhetoric? hot air?
Or just LIES.

By: gdiafante on 5/6/11 at 6:48

More of the same, Kosh. Supply-side economics doesn't work unless you're a business or in the top 1%.

These people are brain-damaged.

By: gdiafante on 5/6/11 at 6:54

Looks like the only people now that still doubt Bin Laden's death are the nutjobs in this country.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/06/al-qaeda-confirms-bin-ladens-dead/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 6:56

Huh. how 'bout that, I agree with GD, perhaps I am as "completely ignorant", as he claims...I agree that we should stop "rationalizing" 9-11....we should use our rational minds to examine the evidence, analyze the evidence, draw some conclusions and act accordingly

The Holy War between the US-Israel and the Muslim world has spilled over from Palestine into Iraq and Afghanistan...now Pakistan and Libya are being targeted....the Israeli occupation of the WB and E J'lem, and it's dominion over Gaza and the Golan Heights are only part of the problem. The US now has huge tracts of its own "occupied territories" on Muslim lands. We have been fully sucked in to the Zionist agenda.

Sadly, the USA, in effect, is a vassal state of Israel....the Israelis regularly get full US representation with zero US taxation. The Israelis take money from the US treasury, they do not put any money into it. So, which state is the so-called "client state", the USA, or the Jewish state? Who are the Lords and who are the vassals?

Unlike most Americans, I do not buy the "Chosen People - Promised Land" argument.

We need to invite the Jews to come here and assimilate, as full US citizens, while simultaneously pulling the plug on apartheid Zionism in the Holy Land. I think the American Founders would agree with me on this....somehow, we lost our national bearings.

By: gdiafante on 5/6/11 at 6:58

Good for you Loner...and stop being so defensive.

By: dargent7 on 5/6/11 at 7:02

Loner: Your philosophy is too narrow and driven with your focus, attention, and addiction to Israeli-Palistinian conflicts.
These Islamic terrorists HATE anything with America's fingerprints.
Getting back to the article, Mr. Burch can refute and deny his viewpiont as being misconstrued that he condones 9/11, but he tap dances around the validation of those attacks.
"Look in the mirror"? Imagine what was going thru those 19 hijackers minds as they flew 757's into the Twin Towers, the pentagon, and, luckily for us, missed the White House.
I never met a kamakazi pilot, but it must be of the same mind-set.
But, the Japanese do acts for honor, duty, and respect.
Muslims do horrendous act based on skewed religion and the subsequent alledged afterlife.

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 7:13

This is a bit lengthy, and the language is a bit archaic, but it's worth the read, IMO; it is a relevant excerpt from George Washington's farewell address. When you read "passionate attachment" and "the favorite nation", think Israel.

(Begin snippet)

"In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

(End of snippet)

Here is the source:

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp

By: gdiafante on 5/6/11 at 7:24

It's my opinion that if Israel had existed as a nation in the 18th century, the founders would have found a way to support it. Probably not the extent that we do now, but it would be relative to their ability as a new nation.

Right or wrong, it is engrained in the minds of Christians that Israel is the chosen people.

I also think that this belief is becoming eroded more and more with each generation. Maybe Loner will live to see the day when we don't support Israel to this extent.

By: house_of_pain on 5/6/11 at 7:30

We should cut all aid to Pakistan, too. Then they can run their mouths all they want.

By: BenDover on 5/6/11 at 7:33

If you want to understand the frustration the enemy has for us you've got to understand that their tribal / political / religious leaders are taking all the women and then channeling the sexual frustration of their young men against the evil Satan rather than where it should be in reforming their own society. "You see their wealthy and decadent society! It is because they have, that you do not!"... "you must kill the infidels and if you die honorably in the cause Allah offers you 72 virgins!".

All of this, "it's our own fault" crap is just a bunch of horsesh*t.

That is all.

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 7:35

Darge has consumed and absorbed mass quantities of Made-in-Israel, Kosher Kool-Aid..it's now part of his corporal being...I doubt if even George Washington himself could convince him to re-evaluate his "passionate attachments" to Israel and his "permanent, inveterate antipathies" against the Arabs and Muslims.

Sadly, Darge's passionate opinion probably represents the majority US opinion

The founder of our country was a man of extraordinary vision; it's as if he could see the current state of affairs. Will we heed Washington's warning, or will we continue to behave as a vassal state, enamored of and beholden to a Chosen People, in a far-away Promised Land?

Will we behave like rational secular democrats in a constitutional republic, or will we continue to behave like Judeo-Christian theocrats, in a vassal state?

Will we choose, as our guiding light, the US Constitution, or the Bible & the Torah?

Will we disengage from apartheid Zionism, before it's too late, or will we expedite Armageddon?

By: yogiman on 5/6/11 at 7:35

Loner,

bin Laden was lying about his hatred of the US in the same manner Michelle Obama in now lying about her love of the US. They are both good liars.

By: gdiafante on 5/6/11 at 7:35

I agree with house and Ben.

By: gdiafante on 5/6/11 at 7:39

Bin Laden and yogi have something in common...they're both batsh!t crazy.

By: BenDover on 5/6/11 at 7:52

Loner suffered a Freudian in the 2nd paragraph of his 6:50a volley.

By: revo-lou on 5/6/11 at 7:54

Sorry, Burch, but you are just wrong in this case. There is no need for a long rebuttal, so I won’t provide one. If you can’t see the error of your thought pattern on this on your own, nothing I, or anyone else, can say will change that.

By: dargent7 on 5/6/11 at 8:04

Ben: Glad we're on the same page for once in 55 years.
This, "Al'lah will hand over 72 virgins after his worshipness gives you the secret handshake and b.j., is about as insane a concept as exists on planet Earth.
Makes Charles Manson look downright "family values" oriented.

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 8:12

Gdiafante, on 5/6/11 at 8:24, said: "It's my opinion that if Israel had existed as a nation in the 18th century, the founders would have found a way to support it. Probably not the extent that we do now, but it would be relative to their ability as a new nation."

You may be right on that, GD, for the wrong reasons.

Anti-Semitism was pervasive in Europe and in the British colonies, in Washington's time; given that historical fact, if someone had suggested establishing a homeland for the world's unwanted Jews - a dumping grounds, so to speak - in Washington's day, he and most of the Founders might have supported the plan.

Remember, Liberia started out as a US-founded dumping grounds for unwanted, freed, negro slaves; the Founders may have approved of a similar plan for the much-hated Jews. They were only human, these great men might have rationalized establishing a Jewish State, with US taxpayer funding and US military support.

Theodor Herzl, the chief founder of the Jewish State idea, in his manifesto, "Der Judenstaat", clearly recognized and understood the "dumping grounds" dynamic. Herzl planned to use that same form of anti-Semitism to his own advantage...that part of his utopian scheme seems to have worked. Today, one can be a Christian Zionist for a host of good reasons, to mask the real reason: this time-honored "dumping grounds" form of anti-Semitism.

Israel is, in fact, a "dumping grounds" for the world's unwanted Jews and the Israelis recognize that fact and they act accordingly. Unlike most Americans, every Israeli has read Herzl's manifesto...they are not fools; they'll take the aid, regardless of the true motives for the aid.

Herzl's plan was fundamentally flawed, concentration enables annihilation; dispersal insures survival...apparently Herzl was ignorant of the basic laws of nature and he terribly misjudged the nature of man, in my opinion. Manifesto writers are prone to that sort of thing.

Herzl's Utopia is now a militant, nuclear-armed menace and an apartheid, theocratic police-state....not the beloved oasis of peace and security that Herzl envisioned. The "dumping grounds" is armed to the teeth, traumatized, audacious and dangerous...time to disengage from the failed experiment, in my "ignorant opinion".

By: slacker on 5/6/11 at 8:12

In this case 72 virgin mermaids.

By: dargent7 on 5/6/11 at 8:15

Loner: I was always partial to Abe Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.
I don't really understand what George was talking about. Nor do I care for the goings on in 1776.
However, since I was born in today's timeline, I favor what Gen. Eisenhower warned us about in 1954, called the : Military Industrial Complex.
His admonishion has come to pass, starting with Reagan and thru both Bush's.
Explosive money spent for bombs and brute force against an non-entity and fear based.
If a US President isn't a warmonger, he's cast as un-American and un-Patriotic.
Armegeddon is squarely based in the Middle East, ie., Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Egypt.
Add in now Pakistan and Afghanistan.
The only way out is to engage all of Europe and Russia, Asia, China, Japan.
The USA cannot police the planet Earth.

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 8:25

By: yogiman on 5/6/11 at 8:35

Loner,

bin Laden was lying about his hatred of the US in the same manner Michelle Obama in now lying about her love of the US. They are both good liars.
(End of snippet)

Wow! By Yogi's logic, if Mrs, Obama lied about her love for America, when she actually hated America, then Bin Laden's claim to have hated America is a lie, the truth is, Bin Laden actually loved America.... according to Yogilogic. To the troll, it's Yogilogical... and that's enough.

Wow...that's comic relief, courtesy of Yogiman, just when we needed it.

Any irrational excuse to tar and feather them uppity Negroes in the White House is enough to motivate Yogi....and set off yogi's wrath.

The troll has entertainment value?

By: gdiafante on 5/6/11 at 8:27

Washington didn't even pen that address. Most of it was Alexander Hamilton though both were pretty much on the same page, politically.

Eisenhower was right too. Too bad no one really cares about farewell addresses.

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 8:45

Darge wrote: "I don't really understand what George was talking about. Nor do I care for the goings on in 1776."

For the record, George Washington published the address, it was never delivered as a speech...it was first published in 1796, not 1776.

Dargent should try to read it, bit by bit...it is very heavy stuff, by today's standards...and the language is flowery and the Founder of our nation was a bit verbose; but that was the fashion of the day. I think it's fair to say that these noble words and elegant, if convoluted prose can be boiled down to this powerful extract: HOLY WARS SUCK.

I agree with Ike, when he warned of the military-industrial complex. He was two-thirds correct in identifying the dangerous consortium of special interests; considering the time in which Ike said that, this oversight is completely understandable....the third horse in today's terrible troika is the Israel lobby.

Today, the war lobby consists of a tripartite consortium of special interests; Defense, Israel & Energy...acronym: DIE. The selfish interests of all three come together in the Middle East and Central Asia. Those lobbies are crafting US policy in those regions; their servants in Congress merely introduce the legislation and articulate the DIE policy. And it's all perfectly legal.

Of course, identifying Israel as part of the problem is sure to invite a backlash of canned invective. Fire away!

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 8:46

Again, Gdiafante and the ignorant one agree, "Too bad no one really cares about farewell addresses."

Too bad indeed.

By: revo-lou on 5/6/11 at 8:51

{Of course, identifying Israel as part of the problem is sure to invite a backlash of canned invective. Fire away!}

No one desires to break up boulders with their head.

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 8:54

Gdiafante leveled a disparaging allegation against the Father of our country: GD wrote: "Washington didn't even pen that address. Most of it was Alexander Hamilton though both were pretty much on the same page, politically."

Is that right?

From the ultimate arbiter, Wkipedia:

"The letter was originally prepared in 1792 with the help of James Madison,[3] as Washington prepared to retire following a single term in office. However, he set aside the letter and ran for a second term after the rancor between his Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton, and his Secretary of State, Thomas Jefferson, convinced him that the growing divisions between the newly formed Federalist and Democratic-Republican parties, along with the current state of foreign affairs, would tear the country apart in the absence of his leadership.

Four years later, as his second term came to a close, Washington revisited the letter and with the help of Alexander Hamilton prepared a revision of the original draft to announce his intention to decline a third term in office." (End of snippet.)

How much "help" was offered by whom sounds like a pedantic exercise, of limited value to the discussion, IMIO*.

*In My Ignorant Opinion.

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 9:00

True that, Revo, I'm wearing a combat, tin-foil helmet....with full face shield...the invectives are easily hosed off, after the invective hurler runs away.

By: brrrrk on 5/6/11 at 9:04

There's an old saying that I think is apropos.... you can't kick a horse and expect it not to kick back.

By: Loner on 5/6/11 at 9:06

Anyone care to join me at this event:

http://www.moveoveraipac.org/

It's in Washington, DC, starts May 21, 2011...I'm seriously considering going...taking my sign "HOLY WARS SUCK"...like I did last time... I may take my motorcycle helmet with me too...to deflect the boulders....the old cranium has been weathered and stressed enough.