Up for Debate: The Amp

Friday, April 12, 2013 at 1:24am

What do you think about the summary information discussed Thursday regarding the East-West connector, or the The Amp as it is tentatively dubbed?

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Tagged: Up for Debate

49 Comments on this post:

By: Ask01 on 4/12/13 at 4:47

Any action which improves public transportation service and options is usually desirable.

However, since Mayor Dean is so exceptionally supportive of the program, I am suspicious.

From the story:

'As for where local funds for The Amp will come from, Dean didn’t offer any specifics.

“That’s something we’ll get to when we get to it,” he said. “But I do think this is the type of investment that the city needs to make. We’re looking for somewhere around [43] percent, or that area, from the federal government. We’re looking for an investment from the state. And I think the city needs to participate and have skin in the game, which we will.”

Anytime a politician skips specifics, the electorate needs to be cautious. When that politician is our very own Mayor Karl Dean, red flags should pop up and flares should light up the sky.

Nashville, as a growing municipal entity, deserves and needs an adequate, thriving public transportation system to serve the local populace and the massive influx of visitors we have been promised drawn by the new MCC and our local sports teams.

When our mayor and city council, with their dubious track record cast their support behind a project, we need to be extra vigilant.

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 5:35

Good morning, Nashville.

I do like the name: AMP...it's an acronym.....Another Mismanaged Project.

Again, we have a red state begging for millions from Uncle Sam....I thought that Tennessee was thinking about secession again....these friggin' beggar states are like leeches on the body politic...sucking the blood....giving nothing in return, other than whiny complaints.

So, who's going to ride these buses? Who's getting the kickbacks on this sweetheart deal? Looks like another boondoggle, in the embryonic stage.

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 6:18

Well, Loner me boy, you wouldn't have to ride your mail cart around to view the city, you wouldn't have look to see where you was going. You could ride the Ampmobile with open eyes to find anything you wished to contradict our great city.

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 7:26

All of you who has children or grandchildren should watch the two 'shows' I saw last night concerning their education.

www.patriotaction.net/video/video/show?id=2600775%3AVideo?3A6172886&xgs=1xg_source=msg_share_video/

After watching that one, go to

www.patriotaction.net/forum/topic/show?id-2600775%3ATopic%3A6176924&xgs=1xg_source=msg_share_topic/

By: BenDover on 4/12/13 at 7:32

If it successfully shuttles the college kids and event-goers in and out of down-town it will remain a desirable alternative to event parking and the like. If it becomes the thug-train to the worst parts of East Nashville it will all fall apart and operate at huge loss for the taxpayers.

By: BenDover on 4/12/13 at 8:18

hahahahaha... new study says Southerners are not fatter than everyone else... they are just more honest.

http://tinyurl.com/obesityStatsFlawed

By: Jughead on 4/12/13 at 8:28

Loner: Can you have a massive heart attack and die already?

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 8:31

Fatness, like beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder, BenDover. If such a study was made, what did it do other than give someone a temporary job?

The only ones that see fat as a problem are those that aren't looking into their mirror at their beauty.

So what made the medical profession determine what fat is. Take my dad, he was a big man but you sure as hell didn't want to "take him on" in a grip. He would have you on your knees before you could stand up straight.

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 8:35

Jughead,

If Loner had a heart attack and "left us", who would you find to argue with. Good Lord, do you know anyone else on this site as smart as he?

Easy, fella. Hang on to him before you hang him up. Like the others, he's fun showing his ignorance; especially on their man Barry Soetoro.

By: Jughead on 4/12/13 at 9:33

Yogi: Perhaps you are right. Can we at least divest his right to vote based on utter and complete ignorance?

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 10:56

Regrettably, Jughead, many in this nation are ignorant of the Constitution. Barry has proven himself to be in office illegally many times but they are welcoming him because of their ignorance. He thinks our Constitution is old paper and should be re-written to his way of thinking.

The man proved himself ineligible for that office from the beginning. If you remember a "debate" he had with Alan Keyes in his Senate race when Keyes mentioned his citizenship he made the comment; "so what, I'm not running for the president's office"?

But as I've posted before; he's the least of our worry right now. Congress is our biggest worry because they backed him all the way to his usurpation of the office and are now backing him on the 2nd amendment to our constitution. Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker are standing behind him on the issue.

I believe they are convinced no one will question them. I have news for them; they might be badly surprised because of their ignorance of "we the people".

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 11:18

yes, Jug, I could have a massive heart attack and die...if so, I'll be sure to haunt you. I have crystal balls...I know where you live.

Ben is right...if the buses become a "thug train", the whole thing will go down the tubes.....the project could become known as the "tramp amp".

Let's see...in TN, we have guns in cars, guns in bars, guns in trunks, guns on bunks....I assume that a "guns on buses" law will be forthcoming; riders will need to protect themselves, right?

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 11:40

If the MCC does not work out as advertised, Nashville may not need the Amp....is Dean doubling down on the risk?

I certainly hope that the MCC lives up to those rosy predictions we all heard when it was still in the planning stages....it's a crap shoot....seven come eleven!

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 11:47

Loner,

I'll have to admit, we Tennesseans are different from you New Yorkers... and I mean much different. We believe not only in self protection, but also in the protection of our nation and our friends and neighbors. You apparently believe in gun control by Barry Soetoro. I believe you're old enough to remember the first things dictators did before they took their dictatorial status.

Tell me, don't you all have criminals in New York today? What would you do if a burglar bashed the door to your home; just run like hell or tell him to wait so you could get him the key?

What would you do if someone approached you in a parking lot and demanded your wallet; just give it to him? That, Loner, is your privilege, but the majority of we Tennesseans, we fully believe in self protection. If attacked, you respond and take care of yourself one way or another: And by that I mean shoot if necessary.

Can you remember an incident where a law abiding citizen committed a crime with a gun? I can't. That should tell you the only ones getting the advantage of gun control are the criminals and the politicians that want control over us.

You can call it socialism or communism; I prefer "personalism".

By: brrrrk on 4/12/13 at 12:09

yogiman said

"I'll have to admit, we Tennesseans are different from you New Yorkers... and I mean much different. We believe not only in self protection, but also in the protection of our nation and our friends and neighbors."

Yes, and all Tennesseans go bare footed, smoke corn cob pipes, make moonshine, and marry off their daughters at 10....

By: brrrrk on 4/12/13 at 12:16

AND for what's it's worth yogi hunting is HUGE in the northeast.... much bigger than here. A lot of schools in the northeast have the first day of deer season as holiday because so many kids go hunting....

By: brrrrk on 4/12/13 at 12:22

I missed a comma, and what a difference a comma can make!!......

AND for what's it's worth yogi, hunting is HUGE in the northeast...

or

AND for what's it's worth, yogi hunting is HUGE in the northeast

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 12:56

Brrrk...Freudian slip? Hunting Yogis sounds like good sport to me....very worthwhile....can't eat 'em, but they have a valuable pelt....once you carefully remove the stink gland....They're paying five bucks per pelt down at the Cumberland Gap trading post.

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 1:00

Upstate New York is loaded with gun nuts....this tragedy happened just 15 miles from my place:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/nyregion/gunman-who-shot-firefighters-left-chilling-note.html

By: brrrrk on 4/12/13 at 1:02

This guy is such a tool.... I bet he uses a "Snap-On".... :-)

http://www.wmctv.com/story/21948645/campfield-calls-8-year-old-with-petition-prop

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 1:02

How do you know so much about we Tennesseans, brrrrk? How old was you when you got your "youngster" married out from under your foot?

And hunting? Gimme a break, brrrrk. My dad taught my brothers how to use a gun on our 8th birthday. That was a helluva big present back then.

And you talk about kids going hunting? I was 11 years old when WWII broke out. They were having maneuvers all over this area and the GIs kept the stores bought out. I know,\ because my mother and father had one.

I had a 22 rifle and a friend (who was 13) had a shotgun. There was no limits on rabbits and squirrels back then so if we saw one sitting I shot with my rifle and if I missed George got it with his shotgun.

And ya know, we went home with food every day and neither one of us shot the other.

Unthinkable, isn't it? At least at your way of thinking.

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 1:05

A little point, brrrrk. I never lived in the northeast, but I did live in the north in a state named Wisconsin. But I can't remember one of those guys I went to school with going hunting.

I guess the north is different from the northeast.

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 1:10

Well, Loner,

You and brrrrk can come hunting ol' yogi any day your little hearts desire. But beware, I'm a firm believer in our 2nd amendment so put a note of your favorite funeral home in your rear pocket. I don't want to shoot either of you in the a$$.

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 1:13

And by the way, Loner, I've been told the Cumberland Gap Post like my hide because its so firm. You could possibly, just possibly, make a few buck... if you can shoot good.

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 1:16

You're right too, brrrrk. I use 'snap on' shoulder straps to keep my britches pulled up over my belly button and posterior. I'm not like you, I don't want mine exposed.

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 1:21

Indeed, a Yogi pelt is not only firm, it is soft and most importantly, it's washable...that's why real Mountain Men, Frontiersmen, Trappers and Pioneers used them as backwoods toilet paper....today, re-enactors buy them to complete their fashion ensembles....they hang them off their cowhide belts, like the old ones did.

By: bfra on 4/12/13 at 1:23

What is wrong with the login page? I can't login

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 1:24

You appear to have logged in, Bfra.

By: brrrrk on 4/12/13 at 1:33

yogiman said

"A little point, brrrrk. I never lived in the northeast, but I did live in the north in a state named Wisconsin. But I can't remember one of those guys I went to school with going hunting.'

Gee, I didn't know they had schools back in the Jurassic period....

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 1:42

Reform school?

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 1:47

Yogi's "issues" could be traced to his history of eating wild game that was killed using lead shot? Perhaps, he ingested a few pellets every now and then? Yogi may have eaten lots of lead, over the years...especially during his formative years. This could explain much...poor devil.

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 1:57

If you can't log in, bfra, how did you [get in]? I read you loud and clear.

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 1:59

I went to the Campfield link....he called the little black girl, a "prop"....the guy is more fool than tool? Actually, she is being used as a prop...but saying so in public, in a sarcastic tone, to the kid's face is very bad form.....of course, the Rasputin-wing of the Tea-Bagger Party would agree with Stacey's analysis and support his boldness.

Stacey Campfield is still mad that his parents gave him a girl's first name....probably bullied...it warped his worldview.....he hates GLBT's....actually, he hates a lot of things, doesn't he?

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 2:04

Yep, we was educated back then, brrrrk. Unlike you, we had to walk to school, we didn't have buses come along and pick us up and bring us home.

And in my days of school, we were taught reading, writing and arithmetic. We also pledged allegiance to the flag and said a prayer. What did you do; just say to hell with that old piece of cloth up there and who in the hell is God?

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 2:15

Yep, we was educated back then, brrrrk.

Except for learning how to conjugate the verb, "to be" in the past tense.

Here's a refresher:

http://www.scientificpsychic.com/grammar/to_be.html

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 2:21

It's 4:20 here...gotta roll!

By: brrrrk on 4/12/13 at 2:23

yogiman said

"Yep, we was educated back then, brrrrk. Unlike you, we had to walk to school, we didn't have buses come along and pick us up and bring us home.

And in my days of school, we were taught reading, writing and arithmetic. We also pledged allegiance to the flag and said a prayer. What did you do; just say to hell with that old piece of cloth up there and who in the hell is God?"

I think I found a video of yogi.....

http://www.hulu.com/watch/270984

By: Loner on 4/12/13 at 2:28

But, before I go...had to share this:

Memo could revive allegations of cheating in D.C. public schools
By Emma Brown,

A consultant for D.C. public schools warned in 2009 that the school system might have had widespread cheating on standardized tests the previous year, according to a memo obtained by journalist John Merrow and published on Merrow’s blog.

Although the memo contains no proof that cheating occurred, its release could revive questions about whether former schools chancellor Michelle Rhee and other D.C. officials were aggressive enough about investigating cheating allegations.

Source:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/memo-could-revive-allegations-of-cheating-in-dc-public-schools/2013/04/12/9ddb2bb6-a35e-11e2-9c03-6952ff305f35_story.html

Looks like the Queen of Charters, Michelle Rhee may have to pull her fat out of the fire....again....she's Kevin Huffman's ex-wife, if I recall.

This casts doubt on the efficacy of Charter Schools...will TN lawmakers ignore this too?

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 3:13

Good show, brrrk. It helps me learn a little more about you. Your intelligence, or lack of it, interests me. What have is the stuff you have between your ears? It seems to be moving around like worms. It looks like it might be good for fishing bait.

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 3:22

Doing too many things at the same time. I meant What do you have as the stuff between your ears.

By: brrrrk on 4/12/13 at 3:33

Yogi,

I'll give you this, you put the do in douche.....

By: yogiman on 4/12/13 at 5:14

Huh? Is that all you have for a brain, brrrrk?

By: yogiman on 4/13/13 at 9:03

There doesn't seem to be much on transportation today so how about a little info on one of your favorites; The Clintons.

This is an article I just read and I thought it might be interesting to Clinton fans. What a hoot! Strange information, isn't it?

"Bill and Hillary, 1970

"Bill Clinton's military career

"Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions or registering for the draft. Selective Service Number is 326-46-228.

"Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

"Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A March 20, 1968.

"Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

"Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military.

"Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserve on August 07, 1969, under the authority of COL. E. Holmes.

"Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

"Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

"Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40- (2) (a) - registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction.

"Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, BUT ANYONE WHO HAS ALREADY BEEN ORDERED TO REPORT FOR INDUCTION IS INELIGIBLE!

"Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

"Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1975), while a fugitive from justice.

"Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from President Carter.

(January 1993) "Bill Clinton becomes the FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United States.

"All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests,public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.

"After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

"After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S.military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

"After the 1998 bombing of the U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

"After the bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible be hunted down and punished.

"Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC, who are now dead would be alive today.

"THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events, Hillary get 8 Million for her forthcoming memoir. Bill gets about 12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events while under oath."

This article was written by -
Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter USN (ret)

By: bfra on 4/13/13 at 12:05

The yellow-belly communist yogi is on both boards posting his propaganda & lies.

By: yogiman on 4/13/13 at 1:23

I'm also on both boards asking you to prove your accusations right, bfra. Why haven't you. That should be your delightful weekend pleasure, so throw it at me.

By: yogiman on 4/13/13 at 1:32

And by the way, bfra, if I was a communist, why would I oppose the communist now in office? I'd be supporting him hook line and sinker.

That makes me think you're a fellow communist with him because you oppose the arguments against him and support him so heavily.

So who is the communist on this site..., you, or me?

By: bfra on 4/13/13 at 2:24

How can anyone prove something to an idiot with no brains?

By: yogiman on 4/13/13 at 5:32

Since you posted the same stupid comment on both boards, bfra, just re-read my answer to you on the other board. It'll same me some time. Thanks.

By: Ask01 on 4/14/13 at 4:01

Returning to the subject at hand, I support the concept of examining the public transport models of European cities for clues to the best methods of expanding public transport systems.

While xenophobes will kvetch and fret over such a move, one fact is abundantly clear.

Many foreign countries have extensive experience, far beyond all but a few places in America, managing efficient, effective mass transit.

We have several sister cities scattered around the world. Why not see how they have managed the problem? I know one sister city is Magdeburg, in Germany, formerly East Germany. Many German cities have very crowded centers, much like our downtown, while also serving rural areas, much like the outer reaches of Davidson County.

If we can shake the xenophobes and hermit crabs off our boots, perhaps forward thinkers can explore other options and move forward, leaving those afflicted with RC Syndrome, aka Resistance to Change, to their horse drawn wagons, Model T's and Edsels.

Just a thought.