Up for Debate: David Gregory's clip

Thursday, December 27, 2012 at 12:47am

What do you make of David Gregory flashing what he described as a "30-round magazine" on "Meet The Press"? Did he violate the law? If so, what's worse: that he displayed the magazine or that he could apparently get it easily?

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214 Comments on this post:

By: yogiman on 12/27/12 at 4:08

Gregory's desire for publicity and lack of common sense seems to prevail in his approach to publicity and mental capacity.

Doesn't he have brain enough to understand how long it would tale to use three ten round magazines or six five round magazines? What difference did the number of rounds in the magazine have with no competition of anyone firing back?

By: Captain Nemo on 12/27/12 at 7:07

Was it real or not? If it was real did they get permission to use it? If it was a prop, then what is the big deal?

By: gdiafante on 12/27/12 at 7:30

There are many issues on this one...Gregory first asked the police, they said no. Then he went to the Feds, who said yes. Now they acknowledge they gave bad advice and "advise" the police not to pursue it. Nice to see the seamless interaction between state and fed agencies...

Of course the gun nuts were first to jump on this...god forbid a news anchor gets that clip so easily, let's prosecute. But if it lands in the hands of a legitimate threat, well that's their god-given right as established in the bill of rights which was written in fire by the finger of Jesus himself.

It's been over a week and still no one can explain to me why someone would need such weapons.

By: gdiafante on 12/27/12 at 7:32

Nemo, the feds told him that if it was an empty clip, it was no big deal. What Gregory did was what most peope would do...if they don't get the answer they want, they'll just ask someone else until they do.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/27/12 at 7:32

Raspy old boy are you has rich as Oprah Winfrey?

By: Captain Nemo on 12/27/12 at 7:47

Thanks gdia. However it is not clear if, "It's not known whether the magazine Gregory had in his had in his hand was authentic or a prop."

By: Captain Nemo on 12/27/12 at 7:49

I agree gdia, if this had been Limbaugh, the NRA would have defended him.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/27/12 at 8:08

Loner-

How deep is the snow? Do you wish you were still in Atlanta?

By: Captain Nemo on 12/27/12 at 8:22

Only one shoe.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=520532674646674&set=a.502129386487003.92449663.502122049821070&type=1&ref=nf

By: Loner on 12/27/12 at 8:23

Good morning, Nashville.

We got about a foot of snow last night...just shoveled out my driveway...that was more snow than we got all last winter....I'll be skiing this afternoon!

As for the topic, here is the key phrase from the CNN piece: "Several conservative commentators first raised the issue of whether Gregory had broken D.C. law by using the magazine."

In other words, this is a tempest in a teapot, brewed up by disgruntled spokespersons for the American gun nuts. The complainants should be fined for wasting valuable law enforcement time and resources with this bogus complaint.

The fact that the gun nuts called the fuzz to report David Gregory's on-air show & tell is more evidence that they are in panic mode...flailing their arms about and targeting anything that makes noise or moves....the gun nuts are in an extremely agitated mode right now....the NRA and the other gun lobbies have whipped the gun nuts into a buying frenzy; the recent mass shootings have been a great boon to the gun and ammo industry and a huge career/income booster for LaPierre and his ilk.

I am in favor of abolishing the 2nd amendment and rounding up every gun in the country....of course, that will never happen....as a nation, we live by the gun and we shall die by the gun.....the mass hysteria has just begun....more carnage is certainly on its way....thanks to the gun lobby and their bought& paid for Congressional stooges.

By: Loner on 12/27/12 at 8:31

Good point, Captain...we worry more about shoe bombs than we do about assault rifles...that's why I say, "HOLY WARS SUCK". They suck the sense out of the sensible; they suck the reason out of the reasonable....we worry more about Jihadists than we do about the 300 million guns in the US and the millions of gun nuts who own them.....this is because the war lobby, (Defense, Israel & Energy), selects our national priorities for us....and the war lobby is not concerned with stopping mass killings; they are in the business of mass killing.

By: Loner on 12/27/12 at 8:41

So, was it the misogynist dope addict, Rush Limbaugh, that called the cops? Did Rush drop the dime? Who's the tattle-tale? People in glass houses should not throw stones....a police raid on Limbaugh's residence might produce some very interesting items....some very sick items too.

By: Loner on 12/27/12 at 8:52

Gd has made an excellent point, the gun nuts are calling for Dave Gregory to face criminal charges on a gun violation charge, for simply showing his TV audience what a 30-round clip looks like; yet these same accusers fight for the right of gun owners to host huge gun shows, where weapons are bought & sold without background checks.

The dime-dropping gun nuts who reported David Gregory to the police are very selective on how the gun laws are to be enforced...they want guns in the hands of gunners, not in the hands of liberal television show hosts.

By: gdiafante on 12/27/12 at 8:57

I wish we would have had some of that winter weather here, Loner. Send some down this way! Well, we did have a snow shower yesterday...which was more than we had all last winter...so that's something...

The gun nuts are desperate to change the conversation, so they jump all over something as trivial as Gregory's prop.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:01

Hey, did anyone else know that G. H. W. Bush withdrew his membership from the NRA because he thought they were too extreme?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:01

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19950511&slug=2120308

By: BenDover on 12/27/12 at 9:02

They should either prosecute Gregory or let everyone else they've incarcerated on a stupid gun technicality like this go.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:04

So, what other things do you think are "stupid gun technicalities," Ben?

By: bfra on 12/27/12 at 9:11

Ben - Give an example of someone being incarcerated "on a stupid gun technicality".

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:12

It's a lot easier to find examples of people being incarcerated over marijuana than it is over "gun technicalities."

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:15

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/the_rumble/2012/10/guns-and-incarceration-a-painful-shameful-silence

In one year on average, nearly 100,000 Americans are shot or killed with a gun. And more than half a million Americans are currently incarcerated as part of the war on drugs.

By: bfra on 12/27/12 at 9:17

Maybe Ben has a broader view of a "gun technicality".

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:18

Maybe he means carrying a concealed weapon without a permit or a felon who happens to have a gun.

By: gdiafante on 12/27/12 at 9:19

I didn't realize that journalists holding up a high-capacity magazine on a news program was such an epidemic in this country...all those poor incarcerated journalists...oh wait.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:20

Under federal law, people with felony convictions forfeit their right to bear arms. Yet every year, thousands of felons across the country have those rights reinstated, often with little or no review. In several states, they include people convicted of violent crimes, including first-degree murder and manslaughter, an examination by The New York Times has found.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/us/felons-finding-it-easy-to-regain-gun-rights.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

By: Captain Nemo on 12/27/12 at 9:20

Ben I know you are smarter than an old troll, but that is a good example of it.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:21

g, I guess we'll need an armed guard next to every news journalist.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:22

"While previously a small number of felons were able to reclaim their gun rights, the process became commonplace in many states in the late 1980s, after Congress started allowing state laws to dictate these reinstatements — part of an overhaul of federal gun laws orchestrated by the National Rifle Association. The restoration movement has gathered force in recent years, as gun rights advocates have sought to capitalize on the 2008 Supreme Court ruling that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to bear arms."

So - the NRA supports giving convicted felons guns?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:23

"The Times examined hundreds of restoration cases in several states, among them Minnesota, where William James Holisky II, who had a history of stalking and terrorizing women, got his gun rights back last year, just six months after completing a three-year prison sentence for firing a shotgun into the house of a woman who had broken up with him after a handful of dates. She and her son were inside at the time of the shooting.

“My whole family’s convinced that at some point he’ll blow a gasket and that he’ll come and shoot someone,” said Vicky Holisky-Crets, Mr. Holisky’s sister."

By: bfra on 12/27/12 at 9:24

Blanket - Concealed, without a permit & felon with a gun would be breaking the laws, not just a technicality.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:24

Then what is considered a "technicality"?

By: bfra on 12/27/12 at 9:30

Blanket - IMO - The incident being discussed is a technicality. A clip can basically do no harm if it isn't in the gun. That is the reason I as Ben nor an example.

By: bfra on 12/27/12 at 9:32

s/h/b "ask Ben for"

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:32

The Carnival Kia guy is a felon in possession of several firearms. He's not serving time right now, is he?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:33

I figured it out, bfra. ;-)

By: Loner on 12/27/12 at 9:33

The irony here, Gd, is that LaPierre et al. are calling for the cops to enforce a gun law; that has to be a first. The consider Gregory to be a major threat; so they called the cops.

The gun nuts want Piers Morgan deported to the UK, for expressing his personal opinion about guns and gun laws.

Sadly, 1st amendment proponents are being targeted by 2nd amendment proponents.

Freedom of speech is being shot at....snipers sniping and swiping at those who are calling for a comprehensive, common sense approach to a dangerous and dead-serious issue.

I think that the non-gun-nuts outnumber the gun-nuts....but the gunners outspend the rest of us in campaign donations; ergo, they call the tune....we are forced to dance to their music....like in an old Western...DANCE! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! DANCE!

Here's a link that discloses the extent of gun industry funding for Congress...check out the pro-gun contributions....then check out the gun-control contributions. The Super PACs are pumping in the cash too....the gun industry owns Congress....this has to cease...here is that link:

http://maplight.org/us-congress/interest

Scroll down to Ideology/Single-issue....gun-rights versus gun-control.....check out the disparity in contributions...money talks; the SCOTUS affirmed that with Citizens United.

Gun owners will now write bigger checks....they know this influence game well.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/27/12 at 9:36

Blanket, the good new he is not on TV with he stupid grin and egotistical, “Please don’t you leave till you see me.”

By: gdiafante on 12/27/12 at 9:37

I did read that about Piers, Loner. I got a good laugh at first but then when you think about it, that kind of stupidity is getting old.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:37

You got that right, Nemo. He is a slimey b**tard.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:38

Loner, a bunch of money didn't get Romney elected so there may be hope.

By: Loner on 12/27/12 at 9:42

By: BenDover on 12/27/12 at 8:02

They should either prosecute Gregory or let everyone else they've incarcerated on a stupid gun technicality like this go.

The reducto ad absurdum is thrown out there...Justice Scalia's favorite gambit....Scalia is Ben's mentor.

Ben, are you still in the room?

By: yogiman on 12/27/12 at 9:42

You're right in one way, Loner. Guns are the controlling factor for government. Just ask the dictators and all of the citizens that have been murdered in all communist nations for rebelling their rule.

But on the other hand, citizens who are willing to use guns to prevent men like Bary Soetoro aka Barack Obama from taking over their nation as their dictator remain in a free nation.

You can only have your desire for gun control if you have a desire for dictatorship. I don't.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/27/12 at 9:43

Ben’s post and along with bud’s and p3 whines are good examples of the NRA’s state of worry. G W H Bush dropping his long time membership is another example that NRA has over reached its powers. Will the KKK and Neo Nazi’s come to the rescue?

By: bfra on 12/27/12 at 9:43

Blanket - Now Romney's son Tugg/Tagg said his daddy didn't want to be President. anyway. That whole family is goofy!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/27/12 at 9:45

bfra, I had to laugh at that. That must be the reason why he didn't write a concession speech.

By: BenDover on 12/27/12 at 9:50

http://www.change.org/petitions/commute-the-20-year-mandatory-minimum-sentence-for-a-father-protecting-his-family

By: Loner on 12/27/12 at 9:50

Maybe Ben was referring to Curry Todd and his "technicality" violations...here's a reminder...check out that mug:

http://www.timesnews.net/article/9037246

That face ought to be on a poster for both MADD & the Brady Foundation.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/27/12 at 9:51

That is to funny, bfra.

By: Loner on 12/27/12 at 9:53

Yogi's 8:42 post crossed the free speech line?

Did he just threaten the POTUS?

By: Captain Nemo on 12/27/12 at 9:54

I read Loner's link, but Ben's was a blank.