Up for Debate: Dean's property tax proposal

Tuesday, May 1, 2012 at 10:05pm

Let's hear your reaction to Mayor Karl Dean's proposal to raise property taxes, which came during Tuesday's State of Metro address.

86 Comments on this post:

By: buzzard on 5/2/12 at 11:36

Dean has no choice since he is not willing to cut spending. He has a $100 million budget hole he must fill and the only other solution is to raise more money via property taxes. He must do it now because next year is a reappraisal year and he can't do it then. But he's just playing with fool's gold. Down the road he'll have less revenue due to reduced property values and expired federal 1 time grants and will certainly have greater spending expectations. The most fiscally sound thing to do is to stop Dean, Riebeling, and their council bosom pals now and force them to live within OUR means. If we fail to stop them, it will only be worse in the years ahead. It's time for them to sober up.

And mr mayor, why do we care what tax rates are in other cities? Aren't we supposed to be better than the others?

By: yogiman on 5/2/12 at 11:37

I agree, brrrrk, all human intelligence is more or less enlightened and cultivated. And in my comment about Al Gore and his statement about global warming, I based my comment on the fact I worked in meteorology for over 30 years in the Navy, the old Weather Bureau and the current National Weather Service.

Consequently, I believe I know more about climatology than Al Gore and I think he is as full of crap on weather as you and your fellow posters are on this site with your similar lack of knowledge about Barry Soetoro (a.k.a. Barack Obama) in accepting him as your elected president..

By: gdiafante on 5/2/12 at 11:39

Can you explain why those Navy Seals involved in the strike died on a plane crash just a few weeks later?

Absolutely. See, planes are big metal things that go very fast at a high altitute. Due to the gravitational pull of the Earth, when planes stop lateral acceleration, their momentum is directed towards the center of that pull, which is essentially the center of the Earth. If a plane is in freefall, it is accelerating at 9.8 meters per second squared...which is fast.

Now, humans are carbon based life forms that have a skeletal frame underneath soft tissue which is strong, but not capable of withstanding freefall from thousands of feet in the air. Upon impact, the trauma is significant enough to cause death.

I hope this helps.

By: gdiafante on 5/2/12 at 11:43

I worked in meteorology for over 30 years in the Navy, the old Weather Bureau and the current National Weather Service.

Not surprising. Meteorology is one of the best careers an incompetent moron can have. You never have to be right.

By: brrrrk on 5/2/12 at 11:47

yogiman said

"I agree, brrrrk, all human intelligence is more or less enlightened and cultivated. And in my comment about Al Gore and his statement about global warming, I based my comment on the fact I worked in meteorology for over 30 years in the Navy, the old Weather Bureau and the current National Weather Service."

So then even you should know that there's big difference between a Meteorologist (AKA weather "man") and a Climatologist.

By: BenDover on 5/2/12 at 1:11

How is it hypocritical to participate in a program you were forced against your will to accept? The logical extension is that if they had gotten everything they wanted with single payer socialized medicine then you'd be a hypocrite if you didn't just let yourself die when you get sick instead of going to the government doctor for which you were forced to pay.

People who champion higher taxes yet pay just what they have to under the current law are not hypocrites either. Hypocrisy is like Warren Buffett... who goes the extra step by running around championing a tax increase for the wealthy while he himself refuses to pay about a billion dollars in arrears to the US government in taxes he already owes.

It's absurd. Hypocrisy is one of those words the left gets into the habit of taking hip-shots with because by definition if you live in a scheme of moral relativism you can never be a hypocrite; but if another person falls short of some traditional value system for which he advocates and is trying to adhere; 'hypocrisy' is so much more the damaging attack line than 'failure' or having succumbed to a weakness that he still measures as wrong.

By: gdiafante on 5/2/12 at 1:30

Talk about absurd...

By: yogiman on 5/2/12 at 1:40

Why I didn't know you was an expert meteorologist, gdiafarte. When did you learn so much about it?

I'll gladly compare my caliber of work against yours in whatever it is your doing beside playing on a computer.

I'll admit, you're my superior on that toy.

By: BenDover on 5/2/12 at 1:40

I'm not the one using the word incorrectly gd.

"Nothing is more unjust, however common, than to charge with hypocrisy him that expresses zeal for those virtues which he neglects to practice; since he may be sincerely convinced of the advantages of conquering his passions, without having yet obtained the victory, as a man may be confident of the advantages of a voyage, or a journey, without having courage or industry to undertake it, and may honestly recommend to others, those attempts which he neglects himself"

Samuel Johnson

By: yogiman on 5/2/12 at 1:47

Yes, brrrrk, there is different definitions of the two subjects. But if you aren't knowledgeable of one you sure as hell aren't going to learn the other. You must gain knowledge of meteorology before you can learn the basics of climatology, let alone mastering the subject.

By: gdiafante on 5/2/12 at 1:48

You don't even know the difference between meteorologist and climatologist...and given the body of work you have here, the Navy, weather bureau and weather service must have been slumming to have you on staff.

Ben, have you given up all your wealth and material possessions and followed the word of God yet?

You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

You must be a hypocrit...(I expect the you can't take his words literally argument any time now...)

By: slacker on 5/2/12 at 1:53

Ben, I know you've had a 3 martini lunch, when you drop Samuel Johnson on us.

By: slacker on 5/2/12 at 1:58

Samuel Johnson walks into a bar.... orders a.. $$$%@-^%$ Mary

By: jvh2b on 5/2/12 at 2:01

Fun fact!

If this tax goes through - us Davidson county residents will still be at a lower tax rate then when Dean STARTED in office.

Yeah - he actually cut taxes. Funny how I don't see anyone yammering on about that.

By: BenDover on 5/2/12 at 2:06

Yeah... they've been jacking the reassessments around -- giving breaks to properties like Hickory Hollow mall on the backs of the rest of us for the past 6 years jvh2b.

By: yogiman on 5/2/12 at 2:10

I didn't know you was a young weatherman, gdiafarte. Can you give the the definitions of them?

By: BenDover on 5/2/12 at 2:18

Jesus hasn't asked me to do that yet, gd, but I'm a careful steward of what he has given me.

1 Peter 4:10
As each has received a gift, use it to serve one another, as good stewards of God’s varied grace:

There is no society this side of heaven that has unleashed the power of God toward this purpose more than the United States of America, gd.

Some people see this as a flaw rather than a feature though and focus all their (and society's) energies on a flawed ideology of forced equality rather than a more natural state of uncoersed plenty and individual charity.

By: brrrrk on 5/2/12 at 2:31

BenDover said

"How is it hypocritical to participate in a program you were forced against your will to accept?"

Gee, why can't Brown stand on principle and allow his daughter to pay for her own insurance? No one is forcing Brown to leave his daughter on his insurance.

By: jvh2b on 5/2/12 at 2:35

Maybe I'm missing something Ben - I said OUR tax RATE ... not property value. Not overall tax rate.

Don't see how giving Ghetto Hollow's property taxes a break would affect our property tax rate by artificially deflating it...

By: dargent7 on 5/2/12 at 2:50

Junior Seau was just found dead from an apparent suicide. 43 years old.

By: dargent7 on 5/2/12 at 2:57

gD: re: meterologists, climatologists...see some of them weather girls on CNN, FOX News?
Even the local reporters here in Nashville. They can adjust my barometric pressure any time they'd like.

By: yogiman on 5/2/12 at 3:33

dargent7,

In case you didn't know it, the weather announcers on TV must use the information issued by the NWS. If you will notice, they're worded differently but they all give the same forecast.

Maybe they're using the beauty of the women to get your attention as a viewer. Aren't the men "forecasting" as well as the women even though they might be as ugly as you?

By: pswindle on 5/2/12 at 4:35

Yogi,
You are the one full of $$$t. Leave Al alone, he is a brillant man, and he did more for TN than any other Senator. Do you like riding on TN"s great roads? Thank Al, you jack$$$t. Go and check out his record and you will see what he did for TN. You are so narrow minded that the truth just passes you by. I know for one thing, if Al had been able to take the oath of office, we would not be in the mess that we are in now. Clinton/Gore told Bush/Cheney about the possible attack on Amerrica. They did not want to hear anything from them. They said they would take care of it. They sure did and 9/11 happened. 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. He was the worse President in our country's history. I saw a clip of him talking the other day on TV, and no wonder our country went to hell in a hand-basket under him.

By: yogiman on 5/2/12 at 6:15

Do you even know Al Gore, pswindle? I do. I was a member of the old Quarterly County Court in Smith County when Al Jr. got into politics and I "kept track" of him. At many of his "gatherings" when home from DC I went to them. He told the people how he had voted on the issues. Back then, the Nashville Tennessean had a column in their Sunday paper noting how our legislators had voted that week. Al rarely quoted the the same vote the Tennessean gave in their column.

Al Jr, had nothing to do with the roads. Al Sr. was pretty much involved the roads when Dwight Eisenhower got the program started.

And by the way, did you ever see a cow hauled off the farm after an auction?

By: parnell3rd on 5/2/12 at 7:28

Ho hum, just another politician breaking another campaign promise. Be it repube or demoncrat they all lie!
Let's see, we'll give Bud Adams, the Preds Gaylord som more taxpayers money, and while we're at it we'll give Dolly some taxpayers money.
With out all of these corp welefare tax breaks we could hire more fire, police, teachers etc.

By: jvh2b on 5/2/12 at 9:22

Seriously Parnell?????

How much money has the football team and the preds brought IN to Nashville? I'd be willing to bet a lot more than we put out.

Dolly isn't getting a DIME of tax payer money. She's getting a tax BREAK. I know facts are just a pain when you've got an agenda but come on.....

Remember no companies no sales tax revenue and no employees to buy housing and spend their money! It's called capitalism!

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