Up for Debate: Faith-based legal aid

Thursday, June 20, 2013 at 1:15am

Is encouraging clergy and religious institutions to lead low-income congregation members to a legal assistance program an appropriate way of directing those in need to the help? What problems, if any, do you foresee that may convolute the process?

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24 Comments on this post:

By: yogiman on 6/20/13 at 4:36

If legal assistance can be given to a criminal, surely we (as taxpayers) can give legal assistance to honest citizens in need of legal aid; but religion should not be brought into the assistance program.

[To each his own] should be their personal religious belief.

By: yogiman on 6/20/13 at 5:44

WOW! What a crowd. A mob of three people showed up at the San Bernadine CA anti-gun meeting the other day.

They must have been short of brain in their body.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/20/13 at 6:34

Well, I guess it depends upon the philosophy of what role one thinks the church has in the community. Churches often offer good and services to their members such as assistance with utilities and food and child care. Some low-income people may not understand the legalities of things such as power of attorney and living wills and it may be helpful to them. There are things out there such as the free legal advice night that is sponsored by the Nashville Bar however many people are not aware of it.

By: govskeptic on 6/20/13 at 7:09

I see no reason why a Church or affiliate should be any different in suggesting to a
person in need of that type assistance than any other organization or agency would
do. Churches give out clothes, food, money, dental and sometimes medical care,
so how could a referral to a legal clinic be controversial? Should the poor be required
to go to the IRS, Democratic Hdgts, Tn Press Assoc., or Metro Action Commission seeking where to go for legal advise? Many, not all, ask Pastors for all types of info.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/20/13 at 7:14

gov, I fail to see the controversy too.

By: BenDover on 6/20/13 at 7:29

I agree with the others. Like St. Paul said in his epistle to the Romans, we all have different gifts and should use those gifts as Christ would have us do in service to others.

Romans 12:3-8
For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with youra faith; if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.

By: Libertine on 6/20/13 at 7:34

Don't forget that Churches deliver a lot of our health care as well. If they want to offer legal assistance I don't see an issue.

By: BiscuitBoi on 6/20/13 at 7:36

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By: BenDover on 6/20/13 at 7:39

I ain't clicking that.

By: budlight on 6/20/13 at 7:43

Libertine, you are correct about Churches delivering information on health care. It's nice to see that Churches care. After all the "church" is the people who make up the body of Christ. It's not the building, the denomination or even the Pastor.

I know some people who spend their whole life in service to God through their respective church.

Well, off to the trenches for a moment.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/20/13 at 7:51

That's a prudent decision, Ben. LOL

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/20/13 at 7:58

Must be a slow day at the NCP if this is the thing they chose to put on the discussion board.

By: BenDover on 6/20/13 at 8:25

RIP Jim Gandolfini .

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/20/13 at 8:26

Yeah, that was a shock.

By: BenDover on 6/20/13 at 8:30

I think he had a lot of really good movies left in him. Really sad.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/20/13 at 8:37

I agree. He was a stellar actor.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/20/13 at 9:05

The basic philosophy of a religious organization is good, but with one flaw; the human factor.

By: Libertine on 6/20/13 at 9:18

Actually I meant actually provide health care, ie St Thomas, St Jude.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/20/13 at 9:43

8:36 Flea alert.

By: budlight on 6/20/13 at 10:20

By: Libertine on 6/20/13 at 10:18
Actually I meant actually provide health care, ie St Thomas, St Jude.

I was listening to a show where the host was talking about Yale, Harvard, University of Florida and other schools being founded to train ministers. Is that true?

St. Thomas was an awesome place to be for a procedure related to tibia surgery; had to have it broken and reset around 1998 in Montana; then came to TN and had to have the hardware removed in 2001 at St. Thomas. They actually have prayer over the intercom at night. It was so soothing.

By: pswindle on 6/20/13 at 11:22

As long as the Lawyer does not influence the outcome of a will.

By: bfra on 6/20/13 at 1:33

Doesn't take a lot of personal jargon to ruin any discussion!

By: govskeptic on 6/20/13 at 3:57

This discussion is not that the Church is offering or providing the lawyers. It's
about their referrals, there pswindle. A lawyer's influence is giving the client
advice in many directions for said client to know how the client wishes to proceed.

By: yogiman on 6/20/13 at 9:12

Only 23 posters today (24 now)? Hurry back Loner. They need you.