Up for Debate: GOP jockeying

Thursday, December 29, 2011 at 12:20am

A week out from the Iowa Caucus, GOP candidates are jockeying for position. What's your take on who's coming out ahead and who's stumbling?

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Tagged: Up for Debate

70 Comments on this post:

By: yogiman on 12/28/11 at 11:48

No take. Let the wheels keep turning. Iowa needs more money. I can't see where the Iowa vote will confirm the GOP national nominee, or do they influence the majority Americans that much?

Maybe Tennessee should begin our state election on January 1st. It would give us a head start on telling the other states how they should vote.

By: dargent7 on 12/29/11 at 4:16

They keep on saying Ron Paul is ahead. At 76, he's way too old to hold the office of President.
Gingrich makes me puke with his santimonious b.s. He rationalizes his adulterous affairs with inane statements, "I cared for my country that much", and "I've made mistakes".
Not stopping at a STOP sign when talking to a cop is, "I made a mistake".
He's so arrogant he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room...just ask him.
Smarter than Obama? Not.
Santorum is championing the overturning of Roe v. Wade, along with Romney.
Force a woman/ teen/ child to have a baby caused by rape, incest?
Then send them off to manufactured wars to get blown up or killed.
They are all sick-os.
Vote Obama in 2012.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 5:36

With the exception of Romney and Huntsman the GOP is a mismatch of misfits. I can’t say because every time someone takes the lead, something in their pass is spotlighted by one of their opponents. But then who is perfect.

By: dargent7 on 12/29/11 at 6:01

Bachmann's Chief campaign manager just defected to Ron Paul.
Slap in the face , and "she's done"?

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 6:09

I did not know that.

It is God's will?

By: govskeptic on 12/29/11 at 6:12

Tennessee's own Tom Ingram (The Ingram Group) has not been too
successful in his employment as strategist for the democrats favorite
candidate Jon Huntsman! The winner of these first 2 states only matters
to those who can't make up their own minds and are follow the leaders
in subsequent contest!

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 6:16

Good morning, Nashville.

Looks like Romney or Paul will win in Iowa, according to the pundits. The super-pacs may have claimed their first victim since Citizens United went into effect....Newt was pummeled by super-pac negative ads, from the Romney supporters....they seem to have worked, as Newt is no longer called the "front runner".

Mitt has a Jesus problem. The born agains believe that Mormonism is a cult...a filthy 4-letter word, in their lexicon of Jesus-speak. Mitt will be forced to choose somebody like Rev. Huckabee or the saintly Rick Santorum as his VP, in order to placate the born agains.

Santorum is channeling Dick Cheney already...he went to a "game" farm in Iowa where he went on a farm-raised pheasant "hunt"....it's actually a controlled slaughter-for-fun situation. The born agains loved to see Santorum in his bright orange hunting jacket and NRA cap...we know that Christ loved to slaughter farm-raised "game"...Rick is simply acting like the Messiah.....it's a bloody mess.....but it is considered a godly thing to do. Santorum has now been washed in the blood of farm-raised pheasants....he is now anointed....the pastors who run their gunpowder ministries are hot for Rick Santorum.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 6:19

Song and Dance?

Bachmann said Sorenson made the jump after "he was offered a large sum of money to go to work for the Paul campaign."

"Kent said to me yesterday that 'everyone sells out in Iowa, why shouldn't I,'" Bachmann said in a written statement. "Then he told me he would stay with our campaign. The Ron Paul campaign has to answer for its actions."

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 6:24

Romney and Paul….Ron Paul is someone to watch, but can he carry the far right evangelical? Well they follow a Mormon?

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 6:34

Jeb Bush is waiting for his cue to enter the stage....the savvy savior. Jeb has it all: royal family name-recognition, experience, and the support of rich fat cats and the super-PAC's...he has already been vetted...he's tanned and rested...unscathed by the infighting.

The masses are asses...they could go for a third Bush as POTUS.

If Iraq is a mess by summertime and if gas is around $5 per gallon, then the Republicans could run a chimpanzee for POTUS and win the election.....Bush and Cheney left a 10-month window of opportunity for Iraq to fail before the 2012 elections...very clever of them....Obama may have been snookered by the deal.

By: govskeptic on 12/29/11 at 6:41


"Gunpowder ministries"? That must be something you took from your
favorite author "The portable Atheist" Christopher Hitchens!

By: dargent7 on 12/29/11 at 6:47

" I did not know that". Johnny Carson.
If Jeb Bush runs, gets the nomination, and wins, my dog and cat will kill me on election night.
The thought of 3 Bush's in the W.H. is sickening.
At least the Kennedy's had charisma and were pacifists.
The Bush's all got an anal probe in that "Skull & Bone's group while at Yale.

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 6:57

No Gov...that's a loner original...you may use it...no copyright on "gunpowder ministries".

Never read any of Hitchens' stuff...I was already a heretic....I blame Sister Mary Redemptia...she pushed the lone one over the edge....5th grade, I think.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 7:08

The devil made me do it.
Flip Wilson

By: yogiman on 12/29/11 at 7:10

I'm not a gambling man, but by your comments I'll bet you all are a bunch of dumbacrats.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 7:15

There he goes with the name calling. yogi are you that sick?

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 7:20

Iran has meddled in US presidential politics before. Ollie North worked behind the back of a sitting US President, (Jimmy Carter), to engineer a deal with the Iranians for the release of the US hostages held by Iranian revolutionaries. That set the stage for Ronald Reagan to come into power.

The Iranians could pull a similar deal with the GOP today....they could agree to certain US demands, if Barack Obama, like Carter, is removed from office...the Republicans have no qualms about working their own foreign policy agenda in opposition to the sitting president....they've done it before and gotten away with such treasonous activity.

When it comes to pledging support for the apartheid Jewish state in Palestine, only Ron Paul has America's best interests in mind...the others are would-be vassals of the Israeli Prime Minister.

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 7:29

If Obama keeps on reneging on his promises, yes, I could vote for Ron Paul in the general election....the thing is, they'd shoot Paul before they'd ever nominate the guy...the Israelis have painted Paul as an anti-Semite. Paul's sin? He would end US foreign aid to all countries...including Israel....for that, he's a Jew-hating bigot? It's the Helen Thomas effect.

By: Ummm... on 12/29/11 at 7:37

This "debate" question is based on the premise that the Republican nomination will be worth having. After the circular firing squad these mental midgets have engaged in for all this time, their party will be a laughing stock come November (if it isn't already).

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 7:39

They claim that Doctor Ron Paul hates blacks, Jews and members of the GLBT community...the "evidence" comes from a few lines in a couple of decades old newsletters bearing his name....pretty flimsy stuff, IMO.

John McCain's record is more racist than anyone now running...McCain was a hold-out on the MLK National Holiday law...Arizona balked at the idea of honoring King....McCain led the campaign to keep King's BD off the calendar.

Compared with John McCain, Ron Paul is a civil rights champion.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 7:42

Loner I can’t see Paul being nominated. Just for that reason the far right would never elected him. Not to mention that he is an isolationist.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 7:43

Hello Ummm. How was the holidays for you?

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 7:44

Good point, Ummm....this is a race to see who can be the biggest loser. But, as I said earlier, if Iraq is in turmoil and gas is $5 per gallon and rising by Summertime, then Obama will be vulnerable....the TP-GOP are praying for disaster in the ME; it's their only hope.

By: yogiman on 12/29/11 at 8:02

Simply a facetious comment, Captain Nemo. I also have no love for the republicrats.

Consider this: At one time, eleven states had bills on the floor requiring proof of eligibility for the office. The last I heard, only three states now have those bills in line.

I'm just wondering: If one state passes such a bill, will Barry be able to win if he refuses to offer official proof he is eligible to run?

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 8:04

A little isolationism may be what the doctor ordered...that's the best way to stop the hemorrhaging...these elective Holy Wars are bleeding us to death...spiritually, morally and financially.

Why are we still stationing troops in Europe, South Korea, the Pacific and dozens of other places long after hostilities have ceased?

Bring the troops home...we can keep an eye on things right from here...we have the satellites, the drones, the Stuxnet-type cyber weapons, the Tomahawks and the nuke-tipped ICBM's ...and a lot more...that should be enough to keep us secure from foreign threats.

Isolationism implies putting on a blindfold and handcuffs...Ron Paul is not making foolish or pollyannish suggestions like that...he is a realist.

Paul is the only candidate who might agree with my analysis of the War Super-Lobby...in my view, it is a tripartite consortium consisting of the powerful Defense, Israel & Energy lobbies...their common interests come together and overlap in the Middle East.

The public interests are at odds with the special interests of the War Super-Lobby....with Citizens United now in play, the public interests will not be adequately represented...it's a "free speech" issue, according to the Supremes...money talks & BS walks, baby.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 8:10


South Korea is simple, North Korea. As for Europe and the Pacific Ocean, they are nice vacation spots. Just kidding, I don't have an answer for that unless you consider them as out post.

By: Ummm... on 12/29/11 at 8:11

The holidays have been great Captain Nemo, thanks for asking. I hope yours have been, as well.

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 8:14

Damn...symptoms of Soetero Syndrome , AKA Simpleton's Disease, are manifesting early this morning...no cure, no meds, no hope.

If Yogi was a bear, Ranger Rick would be forced to consider shooting the poor creature....his agonized growlings are scaring the campers in Jellystone Park...all night and all day, the park visitors are subjected to "USURPER"...."USURPER'"..."USURPER".

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 8:16

South Korea can handle anything that N. Korea can throw at them...if we get out of there...the N and S may be forced to seek a lasting peace.

By: yogiman on 12/29/11 at 8:20

If anyone here is interested, Hillsdale College of Hillsdale, Michigan is offering a course titled Constitution 101 "The Meaning and History of the Constitution" for free. Its a 10-week course beginning Feb.20, 2012.

If interested, go to [constitution.hillsdale.edu] and sign in. Good school. They are worth checking out. They give out free literature worth reading.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 8:21


I am not for the isolationism, but I think we would go much farther in the world if we would not try to Americanize everybody. Let other live their lives and if that is too much for our values, then could take other methods, short of war.

War should be the last thing we do, because the American psyche is to go to war if someone doesn’t agree with us. However if we can’t whip in the first hour or by weeks end, then we want to bring the troops home.

By: yogiman on 12/29/11 at 8:29


Presidents simply aren't called by their nicknames in public speech. If you was in the Oval Office, would you prefer being called by your nickname "loner", or would you rather be identified by your actual name?

I mean, who would you want to be known as in history? You can call Barry Barack if you want to. I prefer being official in politics.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 8:29

yogi your post was directed to all that had made their opinions known. It was an insult and I for one would like an apology.

By: yogiman on 12/29/11 at 7:10
I'm not a gambling man, but by your comments I'll bet you all are a bunch of dumbacrats.

By: yogiman on 12/29/11 at 8:38

Captain Nemo,

I agree with you on the 'no war' issue. Why should our GIs dies for foreign nations? When I enlisted, like all enlistees, I took the oath to give my life for my country if necessary. I had, and have, no desire to give my life for any other nation on this earth. Let them defend themselves.

If the USA could develop into the nation it did over its first century of being, why hasn't the other nations on this earth developed their nations as we have? I take care of my family. and let my neighbors take care of theirs. I don't like them coming in my back door unwelcomed.

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 8:53

I'm not going to make the history books...if I don't go on face Book, I may fall through the cracks and descend into sweet oblivion. But these NCP postings may endure...and stuff like this:


(Dec.22 edition)

No, I'm no celebrity...but I'm getting my fifteen minutes of fame and glory.

By: yogiman on 12/29/11 at 9:11


The newspaper has you in their record files. Who knows, you may be thrown in the spotlight again, depending on what circumstances arise. You may be part of history and not know it.

Hope your grandchildren will be proud of you.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 9:19

Loner are you near your phone?

By: yogiman on 12/29/11 at 9:24

Sorry, Captain Nemo,

I can't apologize for my comment. I believe anyone who accepts an obvious usurper in the Oval Office as their president must be a 'dumbacrat'. Why is their leading dumbacrap so in hiding. A true democrat would want to know who their "leader" actually is and ask bonafide questions.

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 9:24

Yep, just got off the phone...made my New Years Eve reservations....I lucked out; somebody cancelled and I scored a good deal on a Jacuzzi suite for the big night...I'm on a roll!

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 10:03


I did not think you could keep your word on the moratorium. Since you are not a man of your word and I am, I will continue not to do the name call until Monday.

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 10:07

The name-calling moratrium is back on track?

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 10:09

I've got to go now. Have a good day.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/29/11 at 10:16

Loner, as far as I am concern it is.

By: yogiman on 12/29/11 at 10:29

Captain Nemo,

I don't see where naming a political group a name has anything to do with the names of the posters on this site. But okay, I'll go along with you... until Monday. Then its 'Katie, bar the door'.

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 10:36

A fragile truce....just for the rest of the year....thanks, guys.

Where are the rest of the regulars?

By: BenDover on 12/29/11 at 11:12

I think Romney's untouchable now. Paul and Santorum may nudge him Iowa but it's a land-slide after that. If he pulls Santorum as Veep (or Paul Ryan, or Cristy, or Rubio) I think the Obama's outtta there.

They just need to get over the myth of Obama and his Mop when it's Obama and liberal policy, first in promise and then in practice, that created and perpetuated this economic disaster we've been suffering.

Any recovery has obviously been despite the measures Obama has engaged but people are easily persuaded by the bully pulpit and it's megaphone, the media. Time to release the counter-message and get this show on the road boys.

By: BenDover on 12/29/11 at 11:16

The two things that could upset this would be a 3rd party run by Applewhite or the Hillary VP switch.

By: yogiman on 12/29/11 at 11:31


Rubio is no more eligible for that office than "Barack Obama". For the GOP to place him on the ballot would make them twins with the democrat party.

That would mean they just threw our Constitution out the door.

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 11:51

Mitt & Santorum...the Heretic and the Christian. Two Ken-doll white guys. Nice pairing...Mitt had better double his life insurance, if that ticket wins...Christian zealots might feel moved to remove the Heretic-In-Chief...(HIC)....regime change by way of an instrument of the Lord? Holy wars are irrational by nature.

Santorum believes that the Israelis are God's Chosen People and that all of Palestine is the Promised Land...he is an avowed Christian Zionist. He truly believes that what's good for the Jewish state is good for the USA.

Holy wars suck men like Santorum into power....anybody who would pay for the thrill of killing farm-raised pheasant is just too creepy to be POTUS or VP....of course, that's my humble opinion.

By: Loner on 12/29/11 at 11:55

Rubio is a usurper too! Who knew? Born in a foreign mud hut, or what? Is it the BC again? Yogi is cracking me up here.