Up for Debate: Haslam 2016?

Wednesday, March 6, 2013 at 1:26am

First: Would Gov. Bill Haslam make a good president? Second: Why or why not? Third: What have you learned from his time as governor to prove your argument?

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129 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 3/6/13 at 8:48

Hopefully, most Legion and VFW Posts are loyal to the US Constitution, and the duly elected POTUS, the Commander-In-Chief. Maybe Yogi is not an aberration among the vets...I dropped out of the Legion years ago, so I have no recent first-hand experience with current Legion or VFW policy...maybe there are lots of Birther Posts across the fruited plain....if so, let's hope that the authorities are keeping tabs on those disgruntled gunners....the Vietnam era vets are getting long in the tooth..Korean vets are getting scarce....maybe these Holy Wars have brought new blood to the VFW and American Legion.....and fresh hate, perhaps...let us hope that Birther Posts are extremely limited in number.

By: BenDover on 3/6/13 at 8:48

Wow...

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/05/3268749/the-plundering-legacy-of-hugo.html

By: CoyoteCrawford on 3/6/13 at 8:56

Haslam is the epitome of Republican big government.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/6/13 at 8:57

Loner yogi sees dead people. The reason he does is because he has been dead for years and too stupid to know that.

Ben, are you surprised at Chavez’s history?

By: BenDover on 3/6/13 at 9:02

I'm a little bit older and a lot lets bolder than I used to be, Nemo.

Sunscreen saved me from my normal state of well-done after the vacation.

By: BenDover on 3/6/13 at 9:04

No... it was just interesting to me that Chavez and Obama used pretty much the same play-book to obtain and aggregate political power.

By: Loner on 3/6/13 at 9:04

Thanks for bringing that up Ben.

One of the members of the tripartite War Super-Lobby got stung in Venezuela....Energy.

This offense against Energy might interest the Defense component of the menage a trois, but the third member of the triad is not at all interested in Chavez and the situation in Venezuela...that third member of the terrible trio is the brains of the group of three... Israel.

It's DIE...remember the acronym...Defense, Israel & Energy are running the show in Washington DC....the War Super-Lobby...so, when it comes down to who is next on Uncle Sam's shit list, Israel makes the call...right now, it's Iran and Syria...not Venezuela...not North Korea.

The Graham-Menendez Resolution lets Israel decide when to attack Iran...we pledge to back them up in any ensuing fight.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/28/senators-press-to-green-light-israeli-attack-on-iran.html

Chuck Hagel understated the problem.

By: yogiman on 3/6/13 at 9:05

I feed my animals before I feed myself, slacker. I believe I look out for them better than you and your fellow posters on this site look out for your fellow citizens when you don't seem to care who is sitting in our President's office even though you don't know who in the hell he is.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/6/13 at 9:09

I understand Ben. I got burned on my legs there and my leg was darker than the rest of me for years after.

Sunscreen is good. lol

By: Loner on 3/6/13 at 9:13

Yogi is just stuck on the idea that a black man from Kenya...a Muslim....a Communist....a British subject is now our president and is about to seize dictatorial powers....did I leave anything out? Oh yeah, many birthers believe that BHO is also the anti-christ.

This is the planet of the lunatics....third mudball orbiting a yellow sun in some cosmic backwater galaxy....and on the eve of Armageddon....what a waste.

By: yogiman on 3/6/13 at 9:15

Loner,

I disagree with you on registering firearms a good idea. Maybe you should re-study history a little bit and see how the infamous dictators took over a nation. The first thing they did was require the citizens to register their firearms... then they took them away from them.

Does agreeing to register your firearms because that's what your man Barry wants make you a better citizen or a idiot wanting to register your weapons with someone you don't know and who refuses to identify himself?

If you do, just pack them all together so you can hand them over to him.

Question, Loner: Why does "Obama" keep making the comment; I'm not a dictator"? What, in his thoughts, causes him to make that comment repeatedly? Could it be a dream while he's awake?

By: Captain Nemo on 3/6/13 at 9:17

Ben, are you saying that Obama has skimmed off $2 billion dollars?

By: Loner on 3/6/13 at 9:19

No more questions, Yogi, you are hopeless...you are beyond reasonable debate....you are obsessed with President Obama...you are very sick, sir....very sick. I'm not a doctor, so I cannot help you, seek professional help, Yogi...I'm serious....you suffer from a mental illness....get help.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/6/13 at 9:23

A friend the other day on FB asks what we thought about Obama’s Jedi Mind Melt comment. One very funny post was “Light Sabers on stun.”

By: Loner on 3/6/13 at 9:24

So, BHO is flying down to Venezuela and will be one of Chavez pall-bearers....heard that on FOX News, I believe.....fair & balanced.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/6/13 at 9:25

If Obama was a dictator then yogi would be fertilizer and useful to humanity.

By: slacker on 3/6/13 at 9:28

Sean Penn is delivering the eulogy, as his character in: ''Fast Times At Ridgemont High''
Hugo's favorite flick.. sniff..sniff

By: slacker on 3/6/13 at 9:30

''I loved the Dude''
-Sean

By: Captain Nemo on 3/6/13 at 9:33

yogi is an idiot.

-Sean

By: Loner on 3/6/13 at 9:36

Slack, did you reply to my 8:24 post?

By: slacker on 3/6/13 at 9:44

My name is yogi Senor.. I'll have a ''Negroni'' and will you kindly direct me to Gordonsville?

By: yogiman on 3/6/13 at 9:45

Well, Loner, I agree, we disagree... and I obviously don't know how to convince you to look into the facts even though they're taken from Obama's autobiography plus many other facts given by himself.

You're right on my "obsession" in being against him on all issues except race, Loner. Correct me if I'm wrong; but you are the only one mentioning race on this "argument".

But have you thought race might be the only reason he was voted for for that office?
I haven't heard anyone say they voted for him for anything except race. How could they when they didn't know who he was or any known history on him?

My question remains: How can you vote for someone to become the President of this nation when you don't know who in the hell he is and who refuses to identify himself?

Is that an example of intelligence or stupidity? I say stupidity.

By: slacker on 3/6/13 at 9:51

yogi, for the sake of brevity, would you please just post: ''same thing as last post?''
It would be greatly appreciated.

By: Loner on 3/6/13 at 9:55

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By: Kosh III on 3/6/13 at 10:05

"No... it was just interesting to me that Chavez and Obama used pretty much the same play-book to obtain and aggregate political power."

Yep! They ran for office and won in a fair and open election. Oooo the humanity.......

By: yogiman on 3/6/13 at 10:27

Sorry, slacker,

But like a parent, I'm going to keep repeating myself until you children become mature enough to understand what I'm trying to teach you... how ignorant you are to accept a man as your president when you don't even know his name or where he can from.
That's like letting your children play with a dog when you don't know if he will bite or not.

By: yogiman on 3/6/13 at 10:32

If Barry won fairly, Kosh III, can you explain why it was reported he received 100% of the votes when they didn't have to identify themselves but didn't get the votes from those that had to identify themselves?

How can you run for an office if you aren't legally eligible for that office? How can Barack Obama (if that's his name) be eligible to run for that office with a British subject his father?

By: gdiafante on 3/6/13 at 10:34

You must excuse yogi, he gets this way when he hasn't raped a chicken in a few days.

By: BenDover on 3/6/13 at 10:39

His folksy charm and forceful personality made him an extraordinary politician. His enviable ability to win a mass following allowed him to build a powerful political machine that kept him in office

But as a national leader, he was an abject failure who plunged - into a political and economic abyss.

leaves behind a country in far worse condition than it was when he became president

had a radical vision for “21st Century Socialism,” which was never fully explained.

His skillful rhetoric, which filled supporters with utopian dreams, was used to justify the methodical destruction of - democratic institutions and the free market.

Shortly after coming to office, he rewrote (ignored) the constitution to his liking and aggressively set out to rig elections and stifle adversaries in the legislative branch and the courts.

Unable to brook criticism, he turned his fire on the independent news media, eventually silencing most voices of opposition by bully tactics and economic intimidation.

His regime rewarded supporters and punished opponents, giving rise to enormous corruption and the creation of a new class of greedy oligarchs with political connections.
Unfortunately for - and for all his political skills, the president was both an incompetent executive and a worse economist.

was once again forced to devalue its currency, this time by one-third.

This was the inevitable outcome of a series of disastrous economic decisions ... which scared off foreign investors and spurred capital flight.

By: MamaG on 3/6/13 at 10:48

Good morning, all!
Yogi, I have been away from this site for quite some time and I cannot believe, seriously cannot, that you are still beating this dead horse with your tired notions about our president. Might I suggest that you just go ahead and get over it and enjoy your life? I think you would be a lot happier if you were not trying to prove facts that don't exist. If no one has proven any of your theories in his time in office, do you really think it's going to happen? Wouldn't that be an indicator that there is nothing to prove? Do you really think it's necessary to continue with it? Please, move on for your sake and everyone elses too.

By: MamaG on 3/6/13 at 10:52

And I forgot to add, my Georgia Peach mother says NO to castor oil in beans. She thinks they have enough potency without adding something like that to them!

By: BenDover on 3/6/13 at 10:57

I do vinegar in my boiled eggs to make them easier to peal like I think you were talking about yesterday mamag.

By: MamaG on 3/6/13 at 11:03

Yes, Ben, that's correct. I am making deviled eggs tomorrow and was going to put baking soda in the water. I just read that on facebook recently and thought I would try it. So, does vinegar work well? How much to use?

By: slacker on 3/6/13 at 11:06

Hi MamaG, good to here from you.

By: BenDover on 3/6/13 at 11:07

I just put a splash of white wine vinegar. Keeps them from cracking as badly when they cook and then when you peel them it makes it easier to peel.

By: BenDover on 3/6/13 at 11:08

Have you every pickled any, mamaG? I've never tried it but I was thinking this might be the year because I found a case of mason jars when I was cleaning up the garage.

By: yogiman on 3/6/13 at 11:10

MamaG,

Beans don't lose any of their potency with a 'drop' of castor oil. But most people don't want to "lose gas" so much when eating beans.

As I posted before, the oil takes the gas out of the beans but doesn't put a taste into them.

Before I learned about it, I had run into "beano". It was advertised as a food enzyme. You put 3 to 6 drops to your first bite. It works also, if you don't forget to put the drops in you mouth.

And on my postings on the man in office? I'm not going to "hush up" on that matter until it's proven he's in that office legally.

If he's in that office legally, why hasn't he simply offered proof to shut guys like me up? He hasn't because he doesn't have any.

And believe me, MamaG, it's fun trying to teach fools something valuable. You know, like someone who's in our Oval Office illegally.

By: slacker on 3/6/13 at 11:11

Ben, if you pickle them.. you'll have to put them in a huge jar, and put it on your bar.
No problem with rounding up a bunch of drunks to sit around. I'll be happy to come.

By: slacker on 3/6/13 at 11:15

yogi.. next time you boil beans.. stick your head in the pot, that will eliminate a huge fart.

By: BenDover on 3/6/13 at 11:17

I've got my eyes open for just that jar, Slack... I was just going to fill it with eggs, jalops and banana peppers then top it off with Vinegar.

Love me some pickled eggs.

By: MamaG on 3/6/13 at 11:22

Hi slacker! Glad to be back around for a bit...hoping I can hang out more often...

Ben, My mother has pickled some and we used to take them to this little restaurant we knew and he would give them out to the regulars. They were delicious but codes made him stop due to them not being marked with ingredients, names, etc...so we just stopped taking them. i love them too and I agree with slacker, I will help you eat some! I'm going to try half my eggs in vinegar and the other half in baking soda and see which works better.

Yogi, My mother was forced to take castor oil when she was younger and you can't even hardly get her to walk past it in the store without gagging. She would never have it in her home for any reason. We usually put a drop of olive oil or canola oil in the beans.Being southern, she used to put meat in them but that was many years ago. I think it goes without saying, you know there is more room out than in!

I guess we will be subjected to your rants from now on then, huh, yogi? I'm sure he doesn't give much thought to those of you who keep going on and on about it. He doesn't have to explain himself and if he were there illegally, don't you think it would have come out by now? Hell, Clinton was a wanker and it came out all the time about him doing stuff. Some things cannot be hidden that deeply. Sheesh! I'm wasting my time, I know. It is just so frustrating!!!

By: MamaG on 3/6/13 at 11:25

Ben, you could put a little turmeric for that yellow color. Garlic is always good in anything sour pickled, imo, and maybe a pinch of salt.

By: slacker on 3/6/13 at 11:28

MamaG, no problem getting a pickled egg at the ''Dusty Road Tavern'' back in the day.. eh?

By: BenDover on 3/6/13 at 11:34

Just don't mix the vinegar and baking soda, mamaG... It'll bubble up like a volcano and stink to high heavens.

By: BenDover on 3/6/13 at 11:38

Hey Yogi... have you every tried vinegar and baking soda in your beans? I hear it's da bomb.

By: MamaG on 3/6/13 at 11:38

Slacker, I honestly don't remember eating one there but I dare say, if you could get one anywhere, it would have been there! LOL

Oh, that's right--I felt like those two didn't mix! Thanks, Ben!

By: yogiman on 3/6/13 at 11:40

I remember one thing when I tried that vinegar method, MamaG. It made the shells awful soft. It was easy to slice them in half and scoop them out with a spoon.

I sympathize with your mother, MamaG. I remember when I was a boy my mother took me to the drug store for a "dose" of caster oil. The pharmacist filled a glass with orange juice then put a "some of that stuff" in it and swirled it hard. He gave it to me and said "drink it fast, son". Well, being a boy, I had to look at what I was drinking and that damn stuff was so heavy it all sank to the bottom of the glass before I could get it down. ugh.

As I have noted before, MamaG, why did congress allow all of this to happen from the beginning when the man refused to identify himself? Could it be they are in the game with him for the power?

Why did they question John McCain on his constitutional eligibility but didn't question Barack Obama? I'm still looking for the answer.

By: MamaG on 3/6/13 at 11:55

Yogi, I can't answer your questions because I don't want to get into a debate with you over this issue. I'm sure congress knows all they need to know about the president and that is why they don't question him.

Gotta run folks but hope you all have a wonderful day!

By: brrrrk on 3/6/13 at 12:02

BenDover said

"was stolen mainly from US Oil companies"

Boy, that's a hoot!!! Is it actually possible to steal from a thief?

By: brrrrk on 3/6/13 at 12:38

And as far as Haslam is concerned.... just another silver spoon who made it to the 100th step on the ladder of success by starting on the 99th step.... whew!!!