Up for Debate: Haslam questioned on Ingram

Wednesday, June 26, 2013 at 1:33am

How do you feel about the relationship between Tom Ingram and Gov. Bill Haslam as well as Haslam's explanation of it?

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Tagged: Up for Debate

52 Comments on this post:

By: yogiman on 6/26/13 at 5:18

I believe Haslam has the right to hire anyone he wishes since he's paying for it out of his own pocket. But politics is politics, and every issue is questionable by everyone interested on the issue at hand.

By: bfra on 6/26/13 at 5:55

LOL: - So far point missed completely!

By: yogiman on 6/26/13 at 6:13

Sorry I'm not as brilliant as you think you are, bfra... but I have a legitimate excuse for my ignorance. Don't you?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/26/13 at 7:25

Excuse is exactly what it is. You use that as an excuse to cover your ignorance.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/26/13 at 7:26

Haslam has proven to not be very prudent or savvy with his decisions.

By: Rocket99 on 6/26/13 at 7:27

The entire Haslam family are crooks. They are far worse than any we've seen in the state in a while. We need federal investigations into everything they have done, especially since Billy has become governor. There is a lot of corruption in the Haslam camp. Far worse than any other governor in Tennessee.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/26/13 at 7:44

Haslam is so bad he would've been a good IL governor! LOL

By: govskeptic on 6/26/13 at 8:05

What has any of these statements have to do with the question of today? A fairly
large recent poll showed Haslam pretty darn popular statewide and with both
Democratic and Republican voters. Of course, TCP readers and posters are so
much more politically savvy and smarter than the average voter, and will tell you
so, or else take on the quaking parrot persona of the other posters. I prefer to
leave my slightly measured comments on Tom Ingram at the original story.

By: bfra on 6/26/13 at 8:12

gov - Long time ago, I decided not to pay any attention to polls. Money, politics & just over the top media rule polls, thus they shouldn't be taken seriously. Try to find all those people that say Haslam is even close to being popular. Bet you can't!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/26/13 at 8:19

gov, this is an opinion board after all........

By: HoundDog on 6/26/13 at 9:04

Since Blanketnazi2 points out that this is "an opinion board," I would like to go off topic and say that the SCOTUS decision (by the usual conservative suspects' majority) to strike down an important provision of the Voting Rights Act is an unbelievably naked attempt to allow the minority party (Republicans) to enact voting restrictions designed to prevent likely Democratic voters from participating in elections. After "Citizens United," I couldn't envision the high court making any deadlier, partisan attack on our democratic political process, but I was wrong. This is a sad day for the cause of free and fair elections in the United States, one I never expected to see.

By: Moonglow1 on 6/26/13 at 9:11

Moonglow1: our governor is a crook just like his brother. I do expect the Justice Dept to be knocking on the door of the governors mansion very soon. And no Mr Ingram no deal on coal in the Cumberland. The governor does nothing but waste public dollars promoting his goons. Tony Soprano lives-alive and well at the governors mansion Nashville TN.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/26/13 at 9:13

Off topic

Court Strikes Down Federal Defense of Marriage Act

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324520904578553500028771488.html

By: Captain Nemo on 6/26/13 at 9:16

What I fine so frightening is that Haslam was the best candidate of both parties.

By: BenDover on 6/26/13 at 9:30

That's a bunch of crap hounddog.

The excessive authority over election procedures in specific Southern states of the politically aligned Justice department under the Executive branch was no longer merited; and this authority has now reverted back to the Judiciary under the laws of the Legislative branch and the Constitution, where it belongs.

By: BenDover on 6/26/13 at 9:32

Obama chose not to enforce DOMA anyway, Nemo... so nothing really has changed.

What do you think about the administration picking and choosing which laws to enforce?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/26/13 at 9:39

Ben, as a Libertarian, wouldn't you be happy that DOMA was struck down?

By: HoundDog on 6/26/13 at 9:48

I find virtually everything you post to be "a bunch of crap," Mr. BenDover. Still defending your buddy Zimmerman?

By: bfra on 6/26/13 at 9:58

HoundDog - Strongly agree!

By: MamaG on 6/26/13 at 10:01

Looks like more of those "good-old-boys" politics to me.

By: brrrrk on 6/26/13 at 10:22

BenDover said

"The excessive authority over election procedures in specific Southern states of the politically aligned Justice department under the Executive branch was no longer merited;"

Which is why section 4 of the VRA had to be used 74 times just since 2000..... but we have a black President, so racism no longer exists in this country, right? And the fact that my boss still uses the n-word, albeit under his breathe, is purely inconsequential.

By: BenDover on 6/26/13 at 10:28

When you have a 'justice' department that won't prosecute cases of racial discrimination in elections unless it's whites discriminating against another minority then I think it's pretty clear this power needs to go back to the judiciary.

By: BenDover on 6/26/13 at 10:31

I don't think the executive branch should be able to pick and choose which laws it enforces blanket.

DOMA was about politics. I think the states should decide the issue. And further, at first glance, I don't think Government should be involved in marriage anyway but I reserve the right to modify my position there as I put more though into it.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/26/13 at 10:32

Please show evidence of such discriminating against whites Ben.

By: brrrrk on 6/26/13 at 10:33

BenDover said

"The excessive authority over election procedures in specific Southern states...."

One more thing, it wasn't JUST Southern states...... Brooklyn was once covered under section 4 as well.... Yes that very same Brooklyn in NYC. But as I understand it, Brooklyn was allowed to opt out because they proved they could keep their noses clean for 10 years.... the Southern states that you say are so maligned could have done the same thing... but apparently they just couldn't "Git 'R' Done"... Wonder why??? Could it be because they're still tryin' to get away with the same ol' same ol'?....

By: HoundDog on 6/26/13 at 10:33

What is "pretty clear" to Mr. BenDover smells pretty rank and partisan to me. The preclearance portion of the VRA kept the Republican legislatures from enacting onerous voting requirements designed to inhibit participation by groups they traditionally do poorly with. This ruling is, to borrow Mr. BenDover's phrase once again, "a bunch of crap."

By: brrrrk on 6/26/13 at 10:41

HoundDog said

"The preclearance portion of the VRA kept the Republican legislatures from enacting onerous voting requirements designed to inhibit participation by groups they traditionally do poorly with."

If I'm not mistaken, the Alabama legislature is at this very moment redistricting their state so as to do away with a predominantly black district by dividing it up into several other districts where the blacks will become minority voters and as a result eliminate a black representative.... something that would have been prevented under section 4.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/26/13 at 10:42

DOMA affects whether or not someone can get federal benefits so it's not a state issue. It has to be a federal issue.

By: BenDover on 6/26/13 at 10:45

Having the 'Justice' department decide what is just instead of enforcing laws and the constitution is the fox guarding the hen house.

By: BenDover on 6/26/13 at 10:47

Here you go Nemo, et al...

http://www.wnd.com/2010/06/173117/

By: brrrrk on 6/26/13 at 10:52

BenDover said

"Here you go Nemo, et al...

http://www.wnd.com/2010/06/173117/"

Ben has resorted to drawing water from the yogi well.....

By: bfra on 6/26/13 at 10:55

brrrrk - LOL

By: BenDover on 6/26/13 at 10:59

Nope... but it's pretty clear nothing's going to crack that thick shield of confirmation bias you live behind, brrrk.

By: brrrrk on 6/26/13 at 11:00

It appears that Ben is nothing more than a less ballsy and less honest version of Juggy and a slightly smarter version of yogi..... Hence from now on will be BenYogiJug.. :-)

By: Captain Nemo on 6/26/13 at 11:03

Thanks Ben, that is one compared to all of the cases against minorities.

By: bfra on 6/26/13 at 11:06

brrrrk - Another LOL! You are on a roll. Ben can't stand it, truth hurts.

By: brrrrk on 6/26/13 at 11:08

BenDover said on 6/26/13 at 10:59

"Nope... but it's pretty clear nothing's going to crack that thick shield of confirmation bias you live behind, brrrk."

Right, this coming from a guy who's getting stuff from a site that's posting articles saying...

Obama Wants Kids 'Brainwashed into Believing They're Homosexuals' and 'Emulating Street Thugs'

or...

Don't Enlist In Military, Too Much Gay 'Dancing and Romancing'

or...

Muslim Immigrants Will Be 'Obama's Cutthroat Foot Soldiers' & 'Incite the Chaos That Will Necessitate Martial Law'

or...

What Will Boy Scout Leaders 'Say To Jesus When They Meet Him?'

and last but not least (this is a doozie).....

Texas Fertilizer Plant Explosion a Terrorist Attack Targeting Bush

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/26/13 at 11:13

www.wnd.com? Really, Ben? I wouldn't have expected that from you.

By: brrrrk on 6/26/13 at 11:19

Blanketnazi2 said on 6/26/13 at 11:13

"www.wnd.com? Really, Ben? I wouldn't have expected that from you."

It's called grasping at straws......

By: BenDover on 6/26/13 at 11:20

That was just the first Google link for the issue I found. How about the Washington Times?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/25/inside-the-black-panther-case-anger-ignorance-and-/

By: HoundDog on 6/26/13 at 11:20

When Mr. BenDover refers to "confirmation bias," it is quite obviously a manifestation of psychological "projection."

By: Captain Nemo on 6/26/13 at 11:32

Ben I this the same case, if so then it is just one case against many.

By: brrrrk on 6/26/13 at 12:12

Captain Nemo said on 6/26/13 at 11:32

"Ben I this the same case, if so then it is just one case against many."

GOP math...... 1 = 1,000,000.... otherwise known as a false equivalency.

By: pswindle on 6/26/13 at 12:12

Haslam said that he was paying Ingram out of his campaign funds. Do you think that the Haslams would use their own money? If they can't steal from others they take money from donations. When Billy gets through with TN, all jobs that can be transferred to his outside state buddies and most Tennesseans will lose their state jobs. He has already farmed out cleaning of state buildings to his out of state buddies, the court now will let him fire or lay off whomever he pleases. This is one reason that the GOP wants control of the courts, they can get whatever they want. This is why they block all of P{resident Obama's nominations to the courts. The GOP is piece of work. They are slowly turning TN in a place that most will find hard to live in, and most of the people will go along with anything that the GOP wants. When TN turned Red is still a question for me to answer.

By: pswindle on 6/26/13 at 12:12

Haslam said that he was paying Ingram out of his campaign funds. Do you think that the Haslams would use their own money? If they can't steal from others they take money from donations. When Billy gets through with TN, all jobs that can be transferred to his outside state buddies and most Tennesseans will lose their state jobs. He has already farmed out cleaning of state buildings to his out of state buddies, the court now will let him fire or lay off whomever he pleases. This is one reason that the GOP wants control of the courts, they can get whatever they want. This is why they block all of P{resident Obama's nominations to the courts. The GOP is piece of work. They are slowly turning TN in a place that most will find hard to live in, and most of the people will go along with anything that the GOP wants. When TN turned Red is still a question for me to answer.

By: govskeptic on 6/26/13 at 12:15

Can't think of a one of the recent Supreme Court ruling this session I would
seriously disagree with. That won't last I'm sure, but so far so good.

By: brrrrk on 6/26/13 at 12:18

pswindle said on 6/26/13 at 12:12

"They are slowly turning TN in a place that most will find hard to live in....."

Personally, I'm doing my best to get the hell outta Dodge.... I say let the state crash and burn, but I don't want to be here when it happens. I could try to make a difference, but the state is hopeless and I have no interest in being a Tennessee version of St. Jude.

By: bfra on 6/26/13 at 12:51

ALL TN politicians seem to think any big $$ contracts should go to out of State companies, with the Mayor of Nashville leading the pack.

By: dargent7 on 6/26/13 at 3:24

pswindle: The entire South is RED. The'd vote for GW Bush a 3rd term if legal.
80% of the South still believes Saddam was behind 9/11 and GW a "great" president.
They all hate Obama.
Thank God for Calif. and NY to carry a Democrat into the W.H.
This Haslam story has no interest for me.

By: govskeptic on 6/26/13 at 3:52

brrrrrrk:

Maybe dargent7 has room for you and pswindle out there in paradise?