Up for Debate: Haslam's Pilot connections

Wednesday, July 10, 2013 at 1:02am

Are Haslam's connections to his family-owned Pilot company to much of a distraction or perhaps to great a conflict? What should be done?

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72 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 7/10/13 at 2:15

What ever he does, it wont be good for the people of Tennessee.

By: govskeptic on 7/10/13 at 4:46

Maybe the Press should or could devise a form he could fill out and sign denouncing his father and brother from his life and current job. He could also have the "Trust"
sell his shares in the company and donate the proceeds to the "White House Honest
Government Fund".

By: yogiman on 7/10/13 at 5:39

The "White House Honest Government Fund"? That's the best joke I've read in a long time, govskeptic.

If the Press asks Haslam to give through such ridicule, shouldn't they ask Barry to denounce his Indonesian citizenship?

By: yogiman on 7/10/13 at 5:40

oops, s/h/b live through...

By: bfra on 7/10/13 at 5:51

Troll garbage has started! Site ruined, again.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/10/13 at 6:11

gov, corruption needs to be addressed regardless of the side of the aisle. Haslam has done many questionalbe things, especially in his appointments as well as his ties to Pilot.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/10/13 at 6:19

Haslam makes decisions that increases his familiy's wealth.

University of Tennessee Set to Lease Forest For Fracking, Enriching Governor's Family

Gov. Haslam, the former Mayor of Knoxville, took $398,110 from the oil and gas industry before his Nov. 2010 gubernatorial race victory.

The Haslam family is an oil and gas family through and through, standing to profit immensely from a fracking boom in Tennessee and nationwide.

In 2012, the Haslam family - owners of Pilot Flying J truck fueling stations, a corporation where Bill Haslem used to serve as president - purchased Western Petroleum and Maxum Petroleum. Both Western and Maxum are major suppliers of fuel and lubricants for fracking operations. Pilot Flying J is the nation's No. 1 retailer of diesel fuel and is the 6th most profitable corporation in the U.S., earning over $29 billion in 2012.

http://www.desmogblog.com/2013/06/11/frackademia-university-tennessee-now-fracking-land-leasing-agency

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/10/13 at 6:20

Bill's brother Jimmy was the college roommate and one of the "best friends" of climate change "skeptic," U.S. Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) while attending UT-Knoxville, also serving as Corker's chief fundraiser during his successful 2006 run for the U.S. Senate. Jimmy is also the owner of the Cleveland Browns, which he bought for $1 billion in 2012.

The Haslam family is set to cash in on the arrangement, coinciding - perhaps not coincidentially - with ongoing UT System budget cuts. After all, the cuts doled out by Haslam serve as the rationale for the necessity of new revenue streams like fracking on UT-Knoxville's portion of the Cumberland Forest. A business opportunity, if you will.

By: Kosh III on 7/10/13 at 6:22

I guess they take the game seriously

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/dcunited/brazilian-fans-kill-and-quarter-referee-who-stabbed-football-player-to-death/2013/07/06/e4dbd338-e672-11e2-97c2-eee7eab7397e_singlePage.html?tid=obnetwork

By: govskeptic on 7/10/13 at 6:24

Don't try making the company more than it is folks. It's a big "marketer of gasoline",
not a driller, fracker, or refiner. The over exaggeration and extreme stretching of
facts is so prevalent on this side by a few.

By: Kosh III on 7/10/13 at 6:24

Haslam is on course to make Ray Blanton seem downright angelic.

By: Kosh III on 7/10/13 at 6:26

We do NOT need fracking, esp. in parkland. It benefits no one except those who already have more money than they could ever spend. But greed breeds more greed.

Welcome to the CSA: Corporate States of America. Fascism has arrived!

By: bfra on 7/10/13 at 6:35

gov. - Haslam is dipping family & company toes in the driller, fracker or refiner mix, so that makes them guilty by association. if not worse. He has sunki lower than Sunnyquist or Blanton, either one.

By: govskeptic on 7/10/13 at 6:52

bfra: Your knowledge of business and government is about that of a 10 year old
Mississippi beauty queen. You are best in your copycat comments on Yogi.

By: boyzmom on 7/10/13 at 6:52

Haslam's sole interest in being governor is enriching his family, whatever the cost to Tennesseans; to heck with public service! I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the Democrats had better find a viable candidate to run against Haslam next year.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/10/13 at 6:58

Worse than Blanton? I had never thought such a thing could happen.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/10/13 at 7:06

gov, I don't see how you can write this off as exaggeration. That is simply ignoring facts.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/10/13 at 7:10

I'm afraid that Tennessee is about to become a third world country, sense Haslam was the best of the bunch that ran two years ago.

By: yogiman on 7/10/13 at 7:18

B2,

It seems easy for you to condemn Gov. Haslam. How about taking one more step up the ladder to the national level and prove to me one more time your man Barry is in that office legally and I'll acquiesce and not mention him again.

Good deal? Let er go.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/10/13 at 7:21

Comrade yogi loves to mix crap with more crap.

By: bfra on 7/10/13 at 7:22

gov. - You are starting to sound like yogi! Look at facts not your political mistakes & quit watching Holly Boo Boo.

By: bfra on 7/10/13 at 7:23

Nemo - John J. would have been better. At least he knows the law.

By: govskeptic on 7/10/13 at 7:28

Blanketnazi:

While I didn't call you out on the subject, let me say what you had to say is totally
false in the 7:19 posting. First about the fracking and secondly the biggest whopper
is the statement of Pilot/flying J being so profitable. That company does not even
reach the Forbes 500 in size. Yes they are the 6th largest "Privately" owned company,
but not the 6th largest company. The profits you stated is their approx revenue on
total sales, but the profit last year was not 29 billion as stated, but around 460 million.
I suggest these are the correct facts not the ignored or exaggerated ones.

By: Kosh III on 7/10/13 at 7:28

"John J, John J Hooker, John J Hooker's the man!"

By: Captain Nemo on 7/10/13 at 7:47

We can seat here all day and find bad governors, but the fact is that this is a burning issue with Haslam and his brother. Something we should consider . If he is forced out of office before the next election, who will will replace him?

By: yogiman on 7/10/13 at 7:49

Has any of you learned anything about the SB 744 just passed by the Senate? A recent comment from Sen. Ted Cruz states the IRS can place a $5,000 fee on any employer who hires a legal African-American, Hispanic, union member or other legal, disadvantaged applicant is in that bill.

But apparently they won't be required to pay a fee if they hire an illegal alien. And our Senate passed this bill? I hope the House isn't persuaded to pass it, the Senate was saying [to hell with American workers].

RE: www.wnd.com/2013/07/experts-both-parties-selling-out-u-s-workers/?cat_orig=politics/

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/10/13 at 8:13

gov, I quoted an article showing you the facts. I'd be interested to see what you could prove otherwise.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/10/13 at 8:15

gov, it said the 6th most profitable, not the 6th highest in revenue. There is a difference.

By: yogiman on 7/10/13 at 8:19

Interesting. Go to www.redstate.com/2013/06/25/the-stories-they-told/ and read what Alexander and Corker said before they voted for that amnesty bill (SB 744).

There is many more "against" it that voted for it.

When did our congress quit representing us?

By: BenDover on 7/10/13 at 8:21

Or it could be that he's governing with the conservative, business-friendly rationale that he ran for office on.

This whole, "Everything private is evil" attitude is worse than the Red Scare back in the 50s.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/10/13 at 8:39

Ben, it's not because "everything private is evil." Have you not been keeping up?

By: BenDover on 7/10/13 at 8:59

"I see capitalist people"

By: Kosh III on 7/10/13 at 9:01

"If he is forced out of office before the next election, who will will replace him?"

Sen. Ramsey. From the frying pan into the fire.

By: Kosh III on 7/10/13 at 9:03

"This whole, "Everything private is evil" attitude"

It's only when the private is something like Ewing Oil.
See Enron, Arthur Anderson, MCI, Sommet, Goldman Sachs, BP etc etc

By: govskeptic on 7/10/13 at 9:14

Blanket: I don't have all day to argue this with you, but you originally stated: They
were the 6th most profitable company in the country. With 29 billion dollar "profit".
It would take someone totally clueless to buy that, and certainly not me. The fact
is their profit last year wasn't peanuts, but approx 450 million is a hell of a long
ways from 29 billion. Now my info on this is Forbes list and info. Where did
your's come from? Per your 7:10 you said you quoted facts. Show us 29 billion
in profit as fact.

By: gdiafante on 7/10/13 at 9:47

Maybe you do need all day gov. First, if you would have actually looked at the link Blanket provided, you would have seen that the blog actually linked to Forbes. Second, you also would've noticed that Blanket was quoting the source, where it only states that it's the 6th most profitable company earning $29 billion. No where in the story or Blanket's post does it say that was profit. That was inferred by you.

Maybe you should spend the rest of the day learning to comprehend what you read.

By: brrrrk on 7/10/13 at 9:50

Kosh III said on 7/10/13 at 10:03

"It's only when the private is something like Ewing Oil.
See Enron, Arthur Anderson, MCI, Sommet, Goldman Sachs, BP etc etc"

It's profit for the sake of profit that's the problem. And for what it's worth, I have nothing against a company making a profit, but I also expect the company to be a good citizen of the country.

By: brrrrk on 7/10/13 at 9:54

Haslam is no different than Steven Fincher; a man who actively attempts to decrease funding to food stamps while at the same time wants to boost farm subsidies that would line his own pockets.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/10/13 at 9:54

Welcome back, gdiafante. :)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/10/13 at 9:56

g, you can lead an idiot to information but you can't make him read it.

By: gdiafante on 7/10/13 at 9:57

Apparently not. Thanks. :)

By: yogiman on 7/10/13 at 10:00

Name one politician that isn't for themselves, brrrrk. How did Al Gore's father become a multimillionaire after he went in congress as a school teacher?

Why didn't you see the cattle taken off his farm after it's annual auction? Were they trucked out late at night?

By: yogiman on 7/10/13 at 10:05

I'm still waiting to be led, B2. Don't just tell me, show me. I'm sure one of you can explain how an Indonesian citizen can become a natural born American citizen. But in this case, is he even an American citizen?

You know, (at least I think you know) that's a requirement of our Constitution.

By: bfra on 7/10/13 at 10:09

gdiafante - Good to hear from you! This board can't stand to lose anymore sane posters as the insane continue to post their garbage with no proof everyday.

By: bfra on 7/10/13 at 10:10

Doubt that anybody on here as a spike collar or cattle prod for leading! For brainless blobs, that is what it would take.

By: brrrrk on 7/10/13 at 10:18

yogiman said on 7/10/13 at 11:00

"Name one politician that isn't for themselves, brrrrk. How did Al Gore's father become a multimillionaire after he went in congress as a school teacher?"

yogi's best argument (assuming that he has any idea what he's talking about)..... Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. :-)

By: MamaG on 7/10/13 at 10:20

Good morning, folks! Welcome back, gdia!

The entire Haslam family seem as shady as the lawn under my maple tree.

By: yogiman on 7/10/13 at 10:24

If you could read, bfra, you would have read many of the "proofs" I've offered, starting with your buddy's autobiography.Then explain why he advertised he was born in Kenya for 16 years and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.

Why did he advertise he was raised in Indonesia and Hawaii instead of Hawaii and Indonesia if he was born in Hawaii? I'm still curious. I believe human nature would cause you to mention your time in your yearly sequence instead of reversing it.

By: yogiman on 7/10/13 at 10:26

That's one thing I agree with you on, brrrrk. The GOP and Democrats are more like twins today rather than big brother and little sister..

By: Jughead on 7/10/13 at 10:38

Balls.