Up for Debate: At Land's end

Wednesday, August 1, 2012 at 12:10pm

With the news that Richard Land, leader of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, will retire next year, what are your thoughts on the man's legacy including recent comments about the Trayvon Martin case?

 

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52 Comments on this post:

By: yogiman on 8/1/12 at 10:45

It looks like everyone has to be careful of the remarks they say on any situation, right or wrong. If the majority agrees with you, it was a great comment. But if they don't, you made a lousy comment.

Seems like Richard Land made a lousy comment.

By: Beernazi on 8/1/12 at 11:55

It's so hot outside I'm sweating like a Chik Fil A employee at an Elton John concert!

By: Captain Nemo on 8/1/12 at 12:00

I love how people put the blame on God for their actions. God call me the make a fool of myself in the last election.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/1/12 at 12:03

I in Starbucks Blanket. It was murder just walk 10 feet from my cars AC to the Ac in the buliding. lol

But this has nothing to do with globail warming does it LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 8/1/12 at 12:04

I in Starbucks Blanket. It was murder just walk 10 feet from my cars AC to the Ac in the buliding. lol

But this has nothing to do with globail warming does it LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 8/1/12 at 12:05

Oh no I must be on something that the old cow wants, I posted twice.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/1/12 at 12:07

.The Chickie joints are cloged with cars, it seems that no one is moving

By: gdiafante on 8/1/12 at 12:16

But this has nothing to do with globail warming does it LOL

Hot weather on August 1st? Unheard of...(sarcasm). However, the massive drought...well now you're on to something...

By: gdiafante on 8/1/12 at 12:17

Regarding the Baptists...I tend to ignore them as much as possible.

By: bfra on 8/1/12 at 12:21

Never, ever, ever get into a discussion or debate with a Baptist. Especially a Free Will Baptist.

By: gdiafante on 8/1/12 at 12:25

The great thing about this time of year is that football is right around the corner...as in the first preseason game is Monday.

Every year, without fail, I anticipate the preseason...until the games start and I realize how much the play sucks...but hey, it's football...

By: Beernazi on 8/1/12 at 12:27

Now, if they opened a Free Wii Baptist Church I might be interested.

By: Beernazi on 8/1/12 at 12:27

Nemo, have one of those good frozen coffee drinks for me! Any flavor will do.

By: bfra on 8/1/12 at 12:28

Football should start later in the season and run thru mostly cooler months.

By: bfra on 8/1/12 at 12:43

When it said Land's end, I thought it was about a sports store.

By: yogiman on 8/1/12 at 12:44

Never get into a discussion or debate with anyone over any religion. You're gonna lose.

Beernazi, where did you come from? I've never herd of frozen coffee drinks. That sounds like ugh to me unless it's hot.

By: brrrrk on 8/1/12 at 12:45

Captain Nemo on 8/1/12 at 1:00

"I love how people put the blame on God for their actions. God call me the make a fool of myself in the last election."

"Theologians tell and repeat to us that man is free, while all their teachings conspire to destroy his liberty. Trying to justify Divinity, they accuse him really of the blackest injustice. They suppose that, without grace, man is compelled to do evil: and they maintain that God will punish him for not having been given the grace to do good! With a little reflection, we will be obliged to see that man in all things acts by compulsion, and that his free will is a chimera, even according to the theological system. Does it depend upon man whether or not he shall be born of such or such parents? Does it depend upon man to accept or not to accept the opinions of his parents and of his teachers? If I were born of idolatrous or Mohammedan parents, would it have depended upon me to become a Christian? However, grave Doctors of Divinity assure us that a just God will damn without mercy all those to whom He has not given the grace to know the religion of the Christians." - Jean Meslier

Deep, huh?...........

By: yogiman on 8/1/12 at 12:48

You mean landing on his hind end?

By: dargent7 on 8/1/12 at 1:10

A new topic?
What did the guy say?
Trevon Martin is like Rodney King.
Excessive force.
But, the "Stand Your Ground Law" was insane to begin with.
What did they expect?

By: Beernazi on 8/1/12 at 1:16

yogi, frozen coffee drinks are sold at all Starbucks locations.

By: Beernazi on 8/1/12 at 1:19

They offer a large variety of frozen coffee drinks, although they do not "herd" them. Unless you meant that you had never "heard" of them. They are quite delicious.

http://www.starbucks.com/menu/drinks/frappuccino-blended-beverages

By: Captain Nemo on 8/1/12 at 1:28

Just think there are people that sit on there Yogi's never venturing for home and think they know all there is about everything.

By: yogiman on 8/1/12 at 1:28

It depends on who's "eating" them. I've never been in Starbucks before and I didn't know if I had heard of a herd or something else.

Oh, thanks for the spelling correction. It's hard to notice if you don't get a red warning line.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/1/12 at 1:35

Amen brrrrk!

By: yogiman on 8/1/12 at 1:36

You're right on two things, nimbo, I don't "run around" like I did in my younger years but I'm always venturing for home.

And no, I don't know all there is about everything, but I do know the man sitting in our
Oval Office is in there illegally.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/1/12 at 1:38

One does not eat frozen coffe, but Starbucks has good pastries. I herd(sic) LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 8/1/12 at 1:42

Another dumbYogi come back. He must be a real Yogiface hick.

By: govskeptic on 8/1/12 at 1:48

Richard Land is an excellent Preacher and should return to that part
of his profession. On a must see basis is: President Obama's
video of his donating $5,000. to his own campaign. Book sales
still doing OK, especially to DNC and others using them as
campaign tools!

By: bfra on 8/1/12 at 1:55

Nemo - Easy to tell where yogi's head stays by his never ending referrence to that part of the anatomy. His 1:48PM comment is an example.

By: yogiman on 8/1/12 at 1:58

I'm sweet enough. I don't eat pastries.

By: Beernazi on 8/1/12 at 2:12

Ha, ha - that's the funniest thing I've heard all day! LOL

Don't worry, "sweet" isn't the first word that comes to mind when I think of myself either.

By: Rasputin72 on 8/1/12 at 2:14

The fellow who shot the Martin kid is wishing at this point that he had let crime run rampant through his community..I wonder how many times he has said to his wife, " I wish I had just moved out of the neighborhood."

In my neighborhoods both in Florida and Nashville I just assume that if anyone has the desire to live there and can afford it,they are probably pretty darn good folks. So far this has been the case.

If one were to exclude white collar crime like we see with the sluts on Wall Street crime is centered in neighborhoods that have subsidized housing and lower income families who have children that they cannot afford.

By: Beernazi on 8/1/12 at 2:36

The fellow who shot Trayvon Martin should be thinking, "I should have listened to the dispatcher and let the police handle it instead of following him."

By: brrrrk on 8/1/12 at 2:55

Rasputin72 said

"In my neighborhoods both in Florida and Nashville I just assume that if anyone has the desire to live there and can afford it,they are probably pretty darn good folks. So far this has been the case."

Gee, it's a shame that Zimmerman didn't have the sense to think that.... given that Martin had as much of a right to be in that neighborhood as Zimmerman did.

By: yogiman on 8/1/12 at 3:01

Beernazi,

There's an old saying: "If I knew then what I know now things would be different". It was reported the young man had lost track of Martin and was walking back to his car when young Martin came up behind him and made the attack, knocking him down and began bashing his head against a concrete walk.

So, what would you do; let him bust your skull or stop him any way you could?

The Martin boy was a 17.5 years old young man, apparently well built and very athletic, yet they constantly showed his picture as that of a meager 12 year old boy.

That looked throwing all the blame on the young man. Martin was a stranger in the gated neighborhood. Shouldn't the security team wonder who he was?

By: bfra on 8/1/12 at 3:02

And it was a gated community! Crime happens in all walks of life, even the "silver spoon in mouth" areas.

By: yogiman on 8/1/12 at 3:05

brrrk,

I don't know about your neighborhood, but all of the gated neighborhoods I've ever been in, strangers couldn't just "walk their way around".

At night, walking in the rain, not recognized, wouldn't you wonder who they were and what they were doing in your neighborhood?

By: Beernazi on 8/1/12 at 3:07

yogi, when Zimmerman was on the phone, the dispatcher asked him to quit following and Zimmerman ignored her. Zimmerman left his house with his gun with the intent to pursue someone instead of letting the police do their job.

By: brrrrk on 8/1/12 at 3:09

yogiman said

"That looked throwing all the blame on the young man. Martin was a stranger in the gated neighborhood. Shouldn't the security team wonder who he was?"

A gated community in which his father owned a home.....

By: brrrrk on 8/1/12 at 3:10

But of course, in yogis world it's always the black mans fault....

By: Beernazi on 8/1/12 at 3:18

The kid wasn't even doing anything suspicious. He was walking back from the store with a cold drink and a bag of Skittles. It's not like he was trying to break into cars or peeping into windows. If I'm walking down a street minding my own business and someone comes at me with a gun, I'm going to think something bad is going to happen to me and I would fight back.

By: yogiman on 8/1/12 at 3:30

It's the fault of the one that causes it, brrrrk, black or white.

And he didn't come at Martin with his gun exposed, Beernazi. He pulled it after he was knocked down and was having his head beat on a concrete walk.

By: brrrrk on 8/1/12 at 3:45

yogiman said

"It's the fault of the one that causes it, brrrrk, black or white.

And he didn't come at Martin with his gun exposed, Beernazi. He pulled it after he was knocked down and was having his head beat on a concrete walk."

Zimmerman instigated it... period. If it would have been me and Zimmerman was following me, regardless of the reason, I would have kicked his ass. And if I saw he had a gun, I would have done whatever it would have taken to insure that Zimmerman never got a chance to pull it.

By: Beernazi on 8/1/12 at 3:54

And Zimmerman was the one who caused it. It could have all been avoided if he had listened to the dispatcher and let the police do their job.

By: brrrrk on 8/1/12 at 3:55

And here's the big difference yogi.... if it were me, a slightly overweight balding white guy... Zimmerman would have never come after me... and I could have been a serial killer as far as Zimmerman was concerned. But no.... he had to go after the black guy in the hoody.

By: bfra on 8/1/12 at 4:00

Zimmerman was out of line after the time he talked to the dispatcher. Then he & his wife lied to get him bail, for which they were caught. Doesn't speak much for Zimmerman's character.

By: Rasputin72 on 8/1/12 at 4:06

Why was there a gate on this neighborhood. It obviously was a crime ridden community or the Zimmerman fellow would have not been a part of a neighborhood watch team.

Were they trying to keep people in or keep people out? In any case you can stick a fork in the buttocks of Zimmerman he zigged when he should have zagged.

My motto is if you see a black guy with a hoody I am in the wrong neighborhood or have been kidnapped.

By: yogiman on 8/1/12 at 6:54

brrrrk,

Y'all seem to so knowledgeable you have all the answers to all situations regardless of the circumstance. You weren't there when that Zimmerman incident happened and you can't possibly have the correct answer.

All I know is me and how I would re-act under the circumstances as they were given to the news.

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