Up for Debate: Manning verdict

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 at 12:03am

Which parts of the Bradley Manning verdict announced Tuesday do you agree with and disagree with? How long of a sentence do you think he'll receive?

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By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 9:17

Blanket your 9:09

postwww.youtube.com/watch?v=krD4hdGvGHM

By: yogiman on 7/31/13 at 9:23

Question: The government seemed to want to bring Manning to trial ASAP, and now wants to bring Snowden to trial ASAP; but they haven't been interested in bringing a mass murderer to trial for three and a half years after he killed 13 soldiers and wounded 32 more as he scream Allahu Akbar! (which means God is Great in Arabic) after he shot them on base when he was on duty. He has been paid over 275,000 while being held in a 'brig'.

Are they perhaps thinking he had a mental disorder when that happened? After all, he was only serving as a psychiatrist in the Army.

Does he need a psychiatrist after "indicating he supported terrorists and was intrigued with the idea of U.S. soldiers killing comrades in the name of Islam."

The government only sees his murders as "work place violence".

It seems you're guilty of treason if you give out information the government doesn't think you should give, but it's alright to murder your fellow soldiers if they don't share your religion.

By: bfra on 7/31/13 at 9:26

http://www.hereinreality.com/bushbinladenconnection.html
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The bin ladens were also in the Carlyle Group.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 9:26

Manning has been incarcerated for 3 years before he went trial. I don't call that ASAP. Why don't you try understanding what's going on before you post your stupid crap?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 9:27

bfra, the Bush family and the bin Laden family have always had ties.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 9:28

See if you can distinguish between the two, Comrade Zombie.

mur•der
/ˈmərdər/
Noun
The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

Verb
Kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.

Synonyms
noun. homicide - assassination - killing - manslaughter
verb. kill - slay - assassinate - slaughter - butcher

trea•son
/ˈtrēzən/
Noun
1. The crime of betraying one's country, esp. by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
2. The action of betraying someone or something.

Synonyms
treachery - betrayal - perfidy - disloyalty - sellout

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 9:30

Osama bin Laden is part of the wealthy Saudi bin Laden family.

By: yogiman on 7/31/13 at 9:30

The news was frequently putting out information on Manning for those 3 years B2. And we're hearing about Snowden almost every day right now.

Why haven't we heard much about Hasan for 3 years?

By: bfra on 7/31/13 at 9:30

Blanket - I know, that is the reason Bush got them out of the Country so fast after 9/11.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 9:32

Why don't you go ask Fox News?

By: bfra on 7/31/13 at 9:32

yogi - You probably don't get all of the news out in the hog wallow!

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 9:32

I keep hearing about George Bush, being a great President, but his ties with bid Laden seems to be overshadowing this greatness.

By: bfra on 7/31/13 at 9:34

Nemo - That is all of the Bushes including both Presidens & the entire family!

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 9:34

Comrade yogi, doesn’t get any news, he watches FOX.

By: yogiman on 7/31/13 at 10:20

This nation has been on the icy downhill slide since FDR went in office and began working to get the UN formed. Harry Truman completed FDR's goal while in office. The US has been pushing toward "one world government" since the founding of the UN. Did any of you hear G.H.W. Bush make that statement when he was in office. That was one of the biggest issues that made him a one term president after his "read my lips" statement about taxes.

The common citizens of the US have been the "dog fighters" so far, but it looks like we are about to loose that fight with the "common citizens" of today getting so many "hand outs" from the government and only want more.

We can prepare to say Goodbye USA, it was a pleasure in my lifetime.

By: bfra on 7/31/13 at 10:30

yogi - We can prepare to say Goodbye USA, it was a pleasure in my lifetime.
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Over 4 years of hearing yogi's mess, that never happens. He is the dumbest most pitiful piece of crap that exist on this board.

By: Moonglow1 on 7/31/13 at 10:31

Moonglow1: Any individual who reports a grave injustice should not be prosecuted. Instead society should push to prosecute the persons commiting the injustice.

By: Moonglow1 on 7/31/13 at 10:34

Moonglow1: The majority of our elected officials should be tried for treason as most of them hate our government yet they are the government. They hate it and want to dismantle it and give it to private interests with taxpayers footing the bill.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 10:39

And the lobbyists get them "elected." They also manage to manipulate some of the not-too-bright voters to believe that are problems are due to those on welfare (the "gimme" people) so that they end up voting against their own best interests.

By: Moonglow1 on 7/31/13 at 10:40

Moonglow1: so true Blanket

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 10:43

They use their bigotry and their lack of knowledge to manipulate them. It's so aggrevating and some people are just stubbornly ignorant.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 10:45

s/h/b "that our problems"

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 11:13

By: yogiman on 7/31/13 at 10:20

We can prepare to say Goodbye USA, it was a pleasure in my lifetime.

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Comrade yogi, you have posted so many predictions and none have come true. I suppose that by you saying one more stupid prophecy will give you the satisfaction of believing you are right about nothing at all.

Such as waste of air you are, Comrade Zombie.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 11:16

It was the Barbarians at Rome’s Gates waiting for the fall. Today it is the Barbarian Tea Party trying to destroy America.

By: yogiman on 7/31/13 at 11:26

I'm sorry you children (mentally) have such thick brains in your minds on political thinking process.

Those thick brains also think if you don't know it, it doesn't exist. I'm afraid you're going to learn the hard way, kids. I hope it doesn't [knock the hell] out of you.

Gotta go, have fun with your feeble minds today.

By: bfra on 7/31/13 at 11:35

Good Riddance!

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 12:07

I'm sorry you children (mentally) have such thick brains in your minds on political thinking process.

Does he not see how stupid this sentence is, “Such thick brains in your mind.” LOL
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Those thick brains also think if you don't know it, it doesn't exist. I'm afraid you're going to learn the hard way, kids. I hope it doesn't [knock the hell] out of you.

First we have thick brains that think, but then they don’t exist and the with the brains that won't because we are going to learn the hard way.
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Gotta go, have fun with your feeble minds today.

I think it is we that are having fun with yogi’s crappy brains. LOL
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Comrade yogi’s North Korean handlers must be so proud of their work, LOL

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 12:09

Coming from the idiot that didn't know we had allies during the Revolutionary War.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 12:24

I have to give the old commie some credit in his future prediction….things will change just like it always has. He got that much right. LOL

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 12:30

Oh yeah? Here's my prediction. The yogitard will continue to post his uneducated crap until the minute this posting board disappears.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 12:40

What makes you think that will stop him. The way his crappy brain woks he will send anyway and worse he'll reply to ghost posters.

By: dargent7 on 7/31/13 at 12:51

Manning: He's a "whistle-blower"...legal in America.
Now, with the Internet, it's magnified 1,000x.
The USA has errant drones killing Iraqi civialians, etc. Marines kill families out of vengence.
We need to know this so the next moron we elect to the office of president who wants to invade a soveriegn country thinks twice.

By: pswindle on 7/31/13 at 1:01

He just wanted to make a name for himself, but his fifteen minutes did not help him. He needed the book thrown at him.

By: govskeptic on 7/31/13 at 1:15

Who knew George W. and Jim Baker would hire Mr. Snowden to commit such an act just to get at President Obama and his administration's secrets, other than pswindle and Blanketnazi? One just never knows all the connections.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 1:20

Poor gov still doesn't know how to look up links on the internet.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 1:24

http://www.dailypaul.com/290258/booz-allen-hamilton-what-you-dont-know-about-snowdens-fomer-employer

By: dargent7 on 7/31/13 at 1:34

ps: Just like daniel Elsberg and The Pentagon Papers?
Or, Woodward and Bernstein?
The Mia Lie Massacure?
In today's world, W & B would be tried for treason.
Lt. Calley would have a stature erected in S. Vietnam and WA.
Sometimes consciousness does prevail and get's the better of human's frailities.

By: bfra on 7/31/13 at 1:36

gov. - Did you ever find those martinis you dreamed up? :-)

By: bfra on 7/31/13 at 1:39

Blanket - That is a very informative article. I have known about the connections for a long time, but these Tpubs don't seem to want to know facts.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 1:40

Nope. Snowden even said he was a plant.

Martinis? Hey, it's 5 o'clock somewhere. :)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 1:42

See, what Snowden was revealing has been happening for a long time but it would it would make Obama look bad if it were revealed during his administration. So....bait and switch.

By: bfra on 7/31/13 at 1:47

Blanket - Just some martinis gov. inserted into a comment that didn't exist. LOL You know, like yogi inserts props (that don't exist) trying to make somekind of point.

Nope not 5 yet, but getting there! :-)

By: budlight on 7/31/13 at 2:09

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 7:28
He is a rat and a fool. Stupid little traitor want last long in prison at best. At the worse he will never have a save life.

So will he be in a military (federal) prison or a regular prison. I think there is some difference.

I think he was naive in wanting to start a dialogue about the spying the gov'ment does on all of us. Sad but true. The gov-ment oversteps its boundaries all the time.

But thank goodness mayor bloomingidiotburg in NY got his soft drink restriction shoved down his throat by the appeals judge. And he wanted to ban them at fast food restaurants and NOT 7-11. Hmmmmm! Wonder who greased his greedy fat palm? 7-11? Oh my goodness, they wouldn't! Would they?

Anyway, the gov-ment shouldn't be able to tell us what size soft drink to drink OR WHAT INSURANCE TO BUY OR NOT TO BUY.

By: budlight on 7/31/13 at 2:12

By: yogiman on 7/31/13 at 9:23
Question: The government seemed to want to bring Manning to trial ASAP, and now wants to bring Snowden to trial ASAP; but they haven't been interested in bringing a mass murderer to trial for three and a half years after he killed 13 soldiers and wounded 32 more as he scream Allahu Akbar! (which means God is Great in Arabic) after he shot them on base when he was on duty. He has been paid over 275,000 while being held in a 'brig'.

Eventually Obama will free him like he did the 5 prisoners from Guantanamo this past Friday. You know the release that didn't make the normal 6 o'clock news!

And he's still getting paid. I wonder if any other military men are getting their pay after they were charged with crimes? NOT!

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 2:23

By: budlight on 7/31/13 at 2:09

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 7:28
He is a rat and a fool. Stupid little traitor want last long in prison at best. At the worse he will never have a save life.

So will he be in a military (federal) prison or a regular prison. I think there is some difference.

Are you that big of a ding ling? Manning is in the Military you goof.

By: bfra on 7/31/13 at 2:36

Nemo - For bud, that is a normal error. She thought that was a boy scout outfit! LOL

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 2:39

bud, that was all over the news. From your previous conversations it's apparent you don't watch much other than Fox News. And, btw - they are not "free." They will be incarcerated in a different country.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 2:46

bud, do you realize that there is also a list of people who will remain incarcerated indefinitely? It's not like Obama is randomly releasing people, you idiot.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/17/u-s-releases-names-of-indefinite-detainees-at-guantanamo/

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/13 at 2:52

I think that bud and yogi are related somewhere in their “DIM” past. They only seem to hear part of the story and then forget that part altogether.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/31/13 at 2:55

Part of the reason why some prisoners are not being moved to other countries is the concern of them being subjected to even worse conditions than Guantanamo.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-guantanamo-20130727,0,1389039.story

The two men are among five Algerians still held at Guantanamo. White House aides declined to describe what agreement, if any, had been reached with the Algerian government on the treatment of the detainees. Algeria's security services have long been known for harsh treatment of Islamic fighters.....

"The crucial questions are whether the detainees want to be transferred to Algeria and whether they will face human rights violations there. Closing the detention facility must not mean transferring people to torture, indefinite detention or unfair trials," said Zeke Johnson, director of Amnesty International's Security with Human Rights campaign. National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said transfer decisions were made after "detailed, specific conversations" about how the receiving country will handle the prisoners.

"The assurances must be tailored to mitigate the specific threat that a detainee may pose, and we must be convinced that the transfer is consistent with our humane treatment standards," she said. "If we do not receive credible assurances, the transfer does not occur."