Up for Debate: The mighty political cartoon

Thursday, November 1, 2012 at 3:21am

What do you think about this Chattanooga Times Free Press cartoon regarding Rep. Scott DesJarlais and the recent revelations regarding his past? How do you feel about the paper's defense of publishing? Is it good, bad, right, wrong or indifferent?

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143 Comments on this post:

By: brrrrk on 11/1/12 at 1:31

DesJarlais is scum..... but I have no doubt that the good Bible thumpin' people of Tennessee will reelect him.

By: brrrrk on 11/1/12 at 1:34

Romney compares relief efforts to cleaning up a football field

Ya gotta watch it to believe it.....

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/01/romney_compares_relief_efforts_to_cleaning_up_a_football_field/

By: Ask01 on 11/1/12 at 1:34

I can not and will not speak for others, but my objections to Willard are based on several criteria.

Refusal to make public tax returns is a sticking point. No, you can see mine, but I'm not running for president.

The obvious contempt he, his wife, and staff have for average people. "Don't care about 47%," and "...you people...," indeed!

Flip flopping like a fish is not a desirable trait in a candidate. First, he wants to roast Big Bird, then has a change of heart when that blows up in his face. Then he speaks negatively of FEMA until potential voters are slammed by a mega storm, only to have to shut up and back pedal.

Oh, and he wants to rid business of federal regulation and oversight, I suppose as was done in Massachusettes where tainted medicine was produced. How well did that work out for ya?

Back to the subject, did anyone else see the cartoon in the Tennessean depicting a car trapped in flood waters as a helicopter hovered overhead lowering a rescuer from the winch? The punchline is the rescuer has FEMA across the chest and a umper sticker on the nearly submerged car reads "Get big government off my back." Isuppose the next panel could show the helicopter flying away as the crew thumbed their noses at the dolt, but the irony of the first panel was enough.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/1/12 at 1:36

Yes, I saw that Ask01. Very appropriate.

I would not want Romney at the helm with foreign affairs either. I don't believe he has the experience or temperament for it.

By: BenDover on 11/1/12 at 1:40

Well I rolled a skateboard in front of a girl when I was 15 and caused her to fall and break her arm but I don't think that defines who I am today Blanket.

I don't think my impatience and road rage are something that define who I am but if someone wanted to emphasize that about me to the exclusion of everything else I could be shaped into the devil too.

I'm against spending more taxpayer dollars we don't have in the form of welfare and health care benefits for people who won't work for themselves but that doesn't mean I don't have sympathy for them and that I'm not directly charitable in many cases more than I can afford to be.

I think our tax system is progressive enough but it doesn't mean that I want to steal from the middle income to provide tax cuts to fat cats... it means I think if everyone doesn't share in the cost of government then the government size and scope will continue to snowball out of control.

The emphasis placed on Mitt's negatives and ignoring Obama's negatives has had an impact on you, maybe not to the degree, but in the same way yogi's sources have had on him.

When it's so bad that even the Tennessean is forced to say we need a pinch hitter then it's time to reconsider our premises.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/1/12 at 1:42

Oh, whatever Ben. You don't acknowledge Obama's accomplishments so you're being a bit of a hypocrit, don't you think?

BTW, it's funny how the Republicans are attacking Christie because he is acting in a non-partisan manner for the welfare of the people in his state after a devastating storm.

By: slacker on 11/1/12 at 1:43

nazi, Obama's party controlled congress the first two years of his administration.
He could pass anything he wanted.
He chose to push through a new entitlement, during a recession.
He lost control of congress because of it.
He could have concentrated on the economy, and would have easily won re-election.
You can thank Gitmo for providing the info to eventually get BL.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/1/12 at 1:46

slacker, I've worked in healthcare as an accountant for YEARS. I can tell you that "Obamacare" is a good deal all the way around if you are familiar with the financials in healthcare. Single payer would have been ideal but this is better than nothing. This will save millions in the longrun and I for one do not think healthcare should be viewed as some "entitlement."

IMO he should have pushed through more things in the first two years - his mistake was trying to work in a non-partisan manner with a bunch of assholes who were going to say NO to anything - including things they had previously supported.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/1/12 at 1:48

BTW, you do realize that "Obamacare" as it is now called, was initiated by Nixon and championed by Reagan, right?

By: slacker on 11/1/12 at 1:53

Actually I thought it began as Bill/Hiil care.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/1/12 at 1:54

No, it's much older than that. Research it.

By: BenDover on 11/1/12 at 1:55

Nixon's plan would have dwarfed Hillarycare and Obamacare combined.

By: slacker on 11/1/12 at 1:57

I tried to tell you guys not to run off ''Tricky Dick'' he had a vision. lol

By: BenDover on 11/1/12 at 1:57

Here's President Thrifty's legacy:

http://rationalenvironmentalist.com/cbo2009outlookVsActuals.jpg

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/1/12 at 1:58

It started with Nixon and was revised again and again over the years until Obama finally got it passed.

By: yogiman on 11/1/12 at 2:01

Don't give me that crap about racism, B2. Your man Barry is the worst known racist this nation has had in decades.

Be honest with yourself (if you can), why was he [elected]? Here is a man who no one knows who he is or where he was born.

He never had a job except his little political position in Illinois. Plus a few short years in the Illinois Senate (have you ever read how he got that position?), 2 years in the national Senate. And he's a brilliant man? Gimma a break, please. And really, when he was born. And by the way, have you ever check his voting records? Compare how many times he voted and how many times he said 'present'.

So what was the reason you, or anyone else, voted for him? That my friend (as I use the term loosely) was racism because you didn't even know his legal name and didn't know anything about him. Very secretive, isn't he?

And if you looked at all, you should have known why he refused to prove he was Constitutionally eligible. So, is the Constitution toilet paper now?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/1/12 at 2:01

Bjorn Lomborg? You must be jesting, Ben! That's about the reaction you would give if I quoted Rachel Maddow! Oh, please!

By: slacker on 11/1/12 at 2:03

Gotta go... I'll see you guys tomorrow, at the end of Burch's Romney is an arsehole rant.

By: BenDover on 11/1/12 at 2:06

I don't know who Bjorn Lomborg is Blanket.

The charts are sourced from the Whitehouse and the CBO.

Whip out your slide-rule if you don't believe them.

By: brrrrk on 11/1/12 at 2:07

BenDover said

"Well I rolled a skateboard in front of a girl when I was 15 and caused her to fall and break her arm but I don't think that defines who I am today Blanket."

What a load!! OK, what about what Romney did at 20... 25... 30... 35...40... 45... where's the end? Using your logic, Romney could have murdered someone a year ago (yes, I know..hyperbole) and justify it by saying he was a different person a year ago. BULL!

By: Ask01 on 11/1/12 at 2:07

The Tennesseans endorsement of Willard was, at least from my perspective, somewhat forced and decidedly halfhearted, which combined with corporate America's threats to slash jobs should President Obama be elected, leads me to believe the endorsement was dictated by whichever corporation ultimately owns own local litterbox liner.

The editors could have rebelled. However, I suspect they would have soon left with a scarlet letter on their forehead indicating they were not team players, effectively ending their career. (Yes, Virginia, I fear true journalism is, if not dead, ailing terribly.)

All speculation, let me stress for the comprehensionally challenged among us, but my personal delusion I wanted to share with you all. (If you wish, I have a stomach virus, causing me to miss half a days work I will gladly share also.)

To the troll: when one addresses others with insults and vulgarities, one should not be offended or get their feelings hurt when they receive the same.

By: yogiman on 11/1/12 at 2:08

B2,

I just read in you 1417 (that's your 2:17PM post accusing me of lying. How about telling when and where I lied.

If you're right, unlike you, I will acknowledge it and apologize.

By: BenDover on 11/1/12 at 2:08

Take care slack.. I'll be at Flugtag and repeatedly early-voting in Miami so Burch gets a free ride tomorrow.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/1/12 at 2:11

I agree with the course taken by Obama. You may disagree but I still believe it was the correct decision at the time. We avoided a full blown depression, in case you haven't noticed.

By: BenDover on 11/1/12 at 2:17

If he hadn't blown the TARP repayments and used the exception spending as a new baseline to jack up the year over year spending levels we would have returned to $400B - $600B deficits rather than the $1.4Trillion+ we now have the foreseeable future.

That was the CBO projection when he took office and they didn't even project TARP would be repaid as quickly as it was.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/1/12 at 2:21

Lack of revenue due to extending the Bush Tax Cuts was the mistake. I still am disappointed that he renewed the unnecessary tax cuts.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/1/12 at 2:22

All the tax breaks for the "job creators" doesn't exactly work the way Republicans want to say it will. The rich got richer and moved jobs overseas while the middle class suffers. This is as much about lack of revenue as it is for curbing spending.

By: yogiman on 11/1/12 at 2:26

Ask01,

I know it's stupid in my way of thinking, but why do you feel Romney should present his tax returns (that aren't required) when you feel it's okay for Obama to refuse to identify himself? You know, show his birth certificate, his SSN, his registration number, his school papers... I could go on.

How about convincing him to match a set of papers with Romney? You know, Romney shows one year of his tax returns for Barry's birth certificate, one year for his SSN, one year for his own taxes, one year for his school papers. You know, to prove he wasn't a foreign student receiving a foreign scholarship.

You know, just a few tidbit things.

By: yogiman on 11/1/12 at 2:46

B2,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Bill Clinton was in office when the jobs started going overseas.

And tell me, wouldn't you, or any of your co-posters on this site, move your operation somewhere you would make a pile of more money?

Don't lie, B2, making the most money you can is human nature.

By: Ask01 on 11/1/12 at 2:59

One point Blanketnazi2 overlooked is why should we reward Willard for making a bundlke of money at the expense of the middle class with he has no earthly connection, by electing him president?

Moeny is not evil. In fact, I enjoy having money from time to time.

One statement, however, I can make honestly and without fear of contradiction, a circumstance Willard does not enjoy, is I never put entire companies out of business and moved the jobs overseas to benefit foriegn governments while plunging our nation into a deep recession.

For all of President Obama's shortcomings, I would rather have him than a businessman turned politician who expects workers to forget how he put them out of work.

I know the concept is lost on many greedy reprobates, but in the proceess of making money, you need to invest in the people who actually perform the work generating your revenue stream, so they can purchase goods to keep you in luxury.

By: brrrrk on 11/1/12 at 3:08

Ask01 said

"I know the concept is lost on many greedy reprobates, but in the proceess of making money, you need to invest in the people who actually perform the work generating your revenue stream, so they can purchase goods to keep you in luxury."

An economy is essentially the movement of goods in exchange for labor (usually in the form of money). A pretty basic and straight forward concept. The problem is that in most Republicans mind labor is an expense when in fact it's ultimately an asset.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 11/1/12 at 3:20

That's a very good point.

By: brrrrk on 11/1/12 at 3:42

I just heard that the Economist, the business publication of the world, is endorsing Obama. Ouch!!!

By: bfra on 11/1/12 at 3:53

(FLUSH) every comment Ben & yogi made as BS + TARP, TARP, TARP

By: Ask01 on 11/1/12 at 3:58

brrrk, that must be a stinging slap in the face to Willard and his business co-conspirators.

Willard can take heart, however. As I recall, he received the thumbs up from noted Hollywood luminaries Ron Jeremy and Lindsey Lohan.

I'm sure there lies, somewhere in that mangled heap, an amusing politcal cartoon.

By: bfra on 11/1/12 at 4:06

Blanket - Looks like you have the trolls feet to the fire & they can only stutter BS. Great!

By: yogiman on 11/1/12 at 4:27

Damn,

I would give a half-a-dollar if you could show where I stutter, bfra if you would quit those bad f@rts repeating again. They might not sound so loud, but you can't stop the stink.

By: Captain Nemo on 11/1/12 at 5:10

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By: Loner on 11/1/12 at 5:30

Lots of troll droppings today...lots of clicking and flushing.....these NCP comment boards are experiencing a degradation in quality....there used to be some civil, cogent debate on a variety of subjects....nowadays its troll droppings and name-calling.

Slack seems to have lost his sense of humor....he's a Romney man now, so this is part of the deal, I guess.....maybe Slack is suffering from Romnesia? There's a remedy for that:

http://www.opednews.com/populum/uploaded/romnesia-45559-20121023-19.jpg

Former NCP funny guy walks into a alcohol-free, Mormon, piano bar....

By: Mike Burch on 11/1/12 at 6:34

Loner,

Bishop Romney can have that kind of effect on people ... sort of like going to the prom with a girl because she's pretty, only to discover that she's a stupid, egotistical, high maintenance bitch.

Most Republicans would much prefer to have another candidate, but look at the slim pickings: Palin, Bachmann, Santorum, Cain, Perry, Gingrich.

It's sort of like choosing between two bimbos, a Pope intent on restarting the Crusades, the village idiot, his dumber cousin, and a con man.

Romney may be the best of the bunch if 90% of what he said was just flagrant lying to get elected. But if he means what he said in the early "severely conservative" stages about Iran, Israel, taxes, abortion, the environment, FEMA, etc., the US may never recover.

By: Loner on 11/1/12 at 6:54

Romney convinced Billy Graham to remove the LDS church from their list of cults and Romney took the humor out of Slacker.....Romney has the ability to control people's minds? The Bishop is the anti-Christ?

The Jews hated the real Christ...they would love the anti-Christ, right? The Israelis like Romney, they hate Obama.

The real Christ was an unarmed pacifist...the anti-Christ would be a gun-friendly militarist, correct? Romney wants to expand our already bloated military...swears that he has Bibi's back.....the green light for more Holy War.

The Biblical Christ was non-political...the anti-Christ would run for POTUS....am I wrong on that?

Billy Graham has endorsed the anti-Christ for POTUS...the End Times must surely be at hand....get your 666 tattoo early and avoid the rush.

By: yogiman on 11/1/12 at 8:10

Loner,

I hate to say this, but if you vote for the man you are so strongly supporting on this site wins this election, which he can't legally, you will deserve what you get.

By: yogiman on 11/1/12 at 8:35

Loner,

You seem to be a lot like your buddy, Barry. You're something special and feel every one on this site should let you be their guide. If they don't go by your ideas they shouldn't be on this site because they don't think as you do.

Sorry, but I'm me. I've offered all kinds of evidence I learned through Obama. You call me a racist. I've asked you, and your fellow posters to give me evidence I'm wrong, but you haven't. Why not? Could it be just because you don't have any?

You all have called me a racist because I want a Constitutionally legal citizen in that office. The only reason you can give for voting for him in that office can only be because of your racism because you don't even know his legal name.

Under the known facts, how to you know if he's an American citizen? Could that be the reason he's refused to identify himself?