Up for Debate: MNPS grading policies

Friday, August 2, 2013 at 12:10am

What do you think of MNPS' new grading procedures? Is it a good idea or bad idea?

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107 Comments on this post:

By: Libertine on 8/2/13 at 5:56

That is exactly what is wrong with our schools. So students who do not turn in an assignment still get half credit for doing it, even though they did nothing? You can do some unrelated internet games and get enough points for a passing grade without doing the coursework and then take and retake tests with lots of hints and help until you pass along all these functional illiterates. That is not in the best interest of the children.

By: govskeptic on 8/2/13 at 6:04

This matches the crazy nationwide agenda to sterilize every one of our "little darlings"
to an unrealistic evenness. It takes away the incentive to work harder for what is
right for both the individuals and national competitiveness. School is not for loafing
and pats on the back or gold stars on the blackboard for just attending. Every baseball
game, debate, or spelling bee should not end with each team having the same score.

By: yogiman on 8/2/13 at 6:16

Probably thinking of themselves, loosing is embarrassing and they don't want a child to be thought of as a loser.

By: gdiafante on 8/2/13 at 6:22

Honestly, it doesn't sound good. But what sounds worse? The first two posts that automatically assume that the "little darlings" who don't have good scores are loafing or playing internet games.

I'm just glad you two assholes aren't teachers.

By: govskeptic on 8/2/13 at 6:40

gdiafante: You make lots of assumptions in your remarks. Maybe that tells who
is the truely smartest know it all,. momma's boy a hole, on the subject.
How about some of your great knowledge on the question posed on
this subject.

By: yogiman on 8/2/13 at 6:48

Learn on your own, govskeptic. He ain't gonna give you no info to make you as smart as he.

Like others in this board, if they don't know it, it just ain't so.

By: gdiafante on 8/2/13 at 6:56

Maybe that tells who is the truely smartest know it all,. momma's boy a hole, on the subject.

Since I can't give you a 0, given the new rules, you get a 50 on sentence structure and grammar. Just think of it this way, now it won't be so hard to get back on track, little darling.

And, it's not an assumption. Automatically assuming that kids who have academic problems are lazy, spoiled brats indicate that you would not make a good teacher. Period.

And I really do think you're an asshole too. :)

By: gdiafante on 8/2/13 at 6:59

Yogi, the level of discourse here, even when it's adjacent to your knuckles dragging the floor, is far above your pay grade, yet you continually think someone actually cares what you think. Astounding.

Well, there is Bud...and Jug...probably gov too, on certain subjects...But I get the distinct impression you get sympathy more than ideological support.

By: bfra on 8/2/13 at 7:05

gdiafante - They don't have to deal with facts, if they want to make a point, they just throw in whatever they can think up whether true or not. Surprised gov. hasn't accused you of having martinis this AM.

By: gdiafante on 8/2/13 at 7:11

It's a pet peeve with me, bfra. My son was tested as intellectually gifted, which many people assume that means he makes 100 on all tests, etc., but that isn't the case. There are many problems that go along with that, including behavioral issues.

I've dealt with people like gov before. All they see are test scores and if they aren't up to par, blame the kid. There are too many invariables and good teaching means understanding why a child is not learning and then adapting. The point is to educate the child, not label them and write them off. That really pisses me off. Even with kids that might be lazy...so do your job, inspire the child to freaking learn...

End of rant.

By: govskeptic on 8/2/13 at 7:33

Probably just genes that are causing the problem, so most teachers take that into
consideration as does the system. Personal problems cause a special bias on
many subjects which is understandable.

By: gdiafante on 8/2/13 at 7:43

Actually, they don't gov. It's up the parent to take the initiative. You have to hound, bug, annoy, pester and occassionally lose your temper. Then, when you have their attention, you have to get even more assertive.

The truly sad part is that there are many kids out there who fall through the cracks because their parents don't take the time to find out why the child is not doing well. If the parents don't care, neither will the school. So when I see someone make comments about children who aren't doing well, I take that personally because it's happened to my child.

By: bfra on 8/2/13 at 8:44

gdiafante - My complaint for several yrs. now is the distance so many children have to go to attend the school they are zoned to. Parents of children that live a long distance away, do not have as much opportunity to take part in school activities as they used to. I think this hurts the child in many ways.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 9:02

Comrade yogi is the last person on this board that should be talking about children's education. He is the most uneducated person of all and has repeatedly taken steps to goin the opposite direction.

By: yogiman on 8/2/13 at 9:12

Well gdiafante,

I may we dumber than you on some subjects, but we sure know a lot more than you and your cohorts on this board on a usurper in office.

And by the way, I'm still waiting for one of you to prove me wrong on Barry's constitutional eligibility. I'm sure one of you knows how an Indonesian citizen can become a natural born American citizen even though he was born in Kenya with a British subject his father.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 9:15

From yesterday;

bud, I am not jealous of Phil Valentine and this explains just how out of touch you are with reality.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 9:17

There is no mat to Comrade yogi....you are dumber than everyone.

We are still waiting for you to show evidence you moron.

By: bfra on 8/2/13 at 9:21

yogi - Go find out what a gun manufacturer is! Nobody wants to hear your bs, changing the subject to cover the LIES you post.

By: serr8d on 8/2/13 at 9:26

No more zeros? Figures, that Obama's far-Left National "Education" Association #NEA still coddles kids they hope to cocoon with a never-to-be-attained "Liberal" utopia. Start molding the kids early, so's they can be 'Fundamentally Transformed'!

Newsflash! You Leftists can't come together to sustain this Republic in time of need. As a group, as a "Democratic" Party, you don't have cojones enough to take on the real job of preserving the USA. You can but take from the makers, and whine, whine, whine for more.

Our new "Democratic" Party: Liberal Fascists who only want to see this Republic 'Fundamentally Transformed' so they and fellow Marxists can live easy lives they haven't earned and don't deserve.

This Republic wasn't built by the likes of today's LeftLibProggs: soft, weak, the underbelly of society; punks who 'came after' the founders and builders who shaped the framework that sustains us all. Leftists, Obamaoists, and their mouthy lot of far-Left Liberals can only destroy what's in place.

If it'd been 'this' generation of pitiable, spiteful p*ssies who were called on to fight WWII, we'd all be speaking German today.

If Barky's miserable sort is allowed to 'Fundamentally Transform' this Republic, it's gonna go down in flames. And all you whiny arse Illiberals won't know what hit you.

By: gdiafante on 8/2/13 at 9:36

I wonder, when did serr8d step up and serve our country? Did you volunteer or are you just a whiny little bitch?

Never mind, rhetorical.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 9:42

Then it is a good thing that serr8d was not born before WWII. Because he is pitiable, spiteful pissies (sic) and more.

By: bfra on 8/2/13 at 9:43

serr8d - You shouldn't be so open about how little you know about the history of the Country you live in. It certainly is not the Tpubs that are the backbone of the USA!

By: brrrrk on 8/2/13 at 10:05

Most of the jerks who post on here bitching about bad teachers and lazy students being to problem in our education system don't have a clue. I dare them to volunteer to mentor someone just so they can see how difficult teaching is. I have a background in education and taught privately for over 10 years and if there's anything I learned it's that each and every kid is different; each and every kid requires a different approach, so when a teacher has a class of 30 kids, to be completely effective it's like they have to be 30 different teachers. And that's impossible. As for lazy students, more like lazy parent.... and even that's inaccurate when you consider that most families today have to rely on two incomes just to get by and often the kids suffer for it. Grades!!!! Grades are the least of our problems.....

By: Libertine on 8/2/13 at 10:21

By: gdiafante on 8/2/13 at 6:22

"Honestly, it doesn't sound good. But what sounds worse? The first two posts that automatically assume that the "little darlings" who don't have good scores are loafing or playing internet games.

I'm just glad you two assholes aren't teachers."

You have some gd issues.

Most of these programs, such as giving half credit to a student for not submitting an assignment at all, fail our children. They result in functionally illiterate children receiving a high school diploma when they don't deserve one. Worse than that they receive no education and are unprepared for adult hood.

I said nothing about laziness and the internet reference was related to the 'credit recovery' program used to push students out the door with a diploma.

You need to get some gd professional help.

By: budlight on 8/2/13 at 11:09

By: gdiafante on 8/2/13 at 7:11
It's a pet peeve with me, bfra. My son was tested as intellectually gifted, which many people assume that means he makes 100 on all tests, etc., but that isn't the case. There are many problems that go along with that, including behavioral issues.

The biggest problem your son probably has is having YOU for a parent. He'd probably been better off if you'd chosen the path you wish for so many others - you know "not being born".

Does the school system really think that giving a kid a 50 instead of 20 is going to up their self esteem? Inflation of grades does not make someone with low self esteem just "poof" -- grow self esteem.

Self esteem comes with good parenting, positive reinforcement, love, guidance and yes, discipline.

By: bfra on 8/2/13 at 11:25

sididiot can tell everybody ALL about being a parent, as she has never been one! Ever hear the word "experience" sidiot?

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 11:35

bud thinks that raising children is like training a dog to do tricks.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 11:37

Remember the old hag thinks Phil Valentine a genius for moron.

By: bfra on 8/2/13 at 11:39

Nemo - She & yogi think that a gun collectors group is a gun mfg.. Oh and get irate when proven wrong.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 11:44

They must have the same one page dictionary.

By: dargent7 on 8/2/13 at 11:44

Joke of the day: BudLite's "child was tested as, " intellectually gifted..."
Yeah, and I'm hung like a donkey.

By: brrrrk on 8/2/13 at 11:44

budlight said on 8/2/13 at 11:09

"The biggest problem your son probably has is having YOU for a parent. He'd probably been better off if you'd chosen the path you wish for so many others - you know "not being born".

Hey Sydney,

You talk to Lois that way? Bet she'd smack you up side the head if you did... figuratively of course.

Anyway, effin' ah was G, I'd tell ya to go **** yourself. Hell, I'll do it for G..... go **** yourself. Oh, and I mean THAT literally.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 12:09

The National Council on ageing says yogi is dumper than a rock

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 12:11

The National Council on Parenting says budlight would be a bad parent. There are glad that she is not.

By: govskeptic on 8/2/13 at 12:12

brrrrrrk:

A student having you for a teacher is certainly a scary thought for both parent and
child. "Everyone is different" is certainly an original thought on the subject. Maybe
we can finally get to a one on one ratio for teacher to student and solve that little
problem, of course we will have to make sure (through testing) that the teacher
is smarter than the child, which in a large number of cases would be problematic.

By: brrrrk on 8/2/13 at 12:25

govskeptic,

So, when's the last time you took on the task of teaching a kid anything other than how to pull a trigger, bitch about the government or count the number of games UT won last season (can you do that on one hand.... yes you can)?

Come back to me when you had the guts to take on music (sorry, singing Rocky Top doesn't count), math, history, science, or (God forbid in the South) English.

By: budlight on 8/2/13 at 12:29

y: brrrrk on 8/2/13 at 11:44
budlight said on 8/2/13 at 11:09

"The biggest problem your son probably has is having YOU for a parent. He'd probably been better off if you'd chosen the path you wish for so many others - you know "not being born".

Hey Sydney,

You talk to Lois that way? Bet she'd smack you up side the head if you did... figuratively of course.

Anyway, effin' ah was G, I'd tell ya to go **** yourself. Hell, I'll do it for G..... go **** yourself. Oh, and I mean THAT literally.

You don't know Lois and you don't know jack. I'll show this comment to Lois and warn her about you. And you don't know how to spell Sidney, brrrrrrrk. Hiding behind your screen name.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 12:30

When the ratio is higher than 20 it starts to get difficult to teach or learn. Any thing over 25 is starting to get to be impossible. With budget cuts and a public that dose not want to pay for more teachers, I don't see it getting better.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 12:35

Sydney Australia.

By: brrrrk on 8/2/13 at 12:36

budlight said on 8/2/13 at 12:29

"You don't know Lois and you don't know jack. I'll show this comment to Lois and warn her about you."

Please do.... and tell her she's welcome back to my house anytime... as long as she doesn't bring you along.

By: budlight on 8/2/13 at 12:37

By: dargent7 on 8/2/13 at 11:44
Joke of the day: BudLite's "child was tested as, " intellectually gifted..."
Yeah, and I'm hung like a donkey.

D7 I don't have kids. Where did you come up with that misconception? Be nice.

And what does this mean, Capt? Dumper than a rock? duh!
"By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 12:09
The National Council on ageing says yogi is dumper than a rock"

DUMPER? Looks like you're the dummy, dummy.

Hey Yogi, did you ever notice how mad they get when things are not going their way? Lately the media is ripping their guru Odrama a new one and it must be hurting their teenie weenie itty bitty ffeelings cause they are possessed with anger.

They try to belittle people. It sure does backfire on them. Scorches their widdy biddy feelings..

Oh well, it's fun to watch. (or read)

So long; going to see Lois now.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 12:44

So bud is seeing Louis on tax payers money or did she get fired, quite , or just get missed placed?

By: Jughead on 8/2/13 at 12:45

Balls.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 12:46

Just what is not going "our way" ? It seems it is you and yogi and the flea that go out of your way to belittle people.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 12:47

shb Lois

By: brrrrk on 8/2/13 at 12:47

Oh my.... Sidney's going to tell on me!!! :-)

What she fails to realize is that her admission that there is a Lois means I know exactly what I'm talking about.... LOL!!!

By: Jughead on 8/2/13 at 12:47

Nimord: I thought your pathetic azz was in Vegas. Back so soon?

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 12:49

I hope your are disappointed flea, that I am alive and well in Vegas. I know you would rather see me dead, but not today.

By: Captain Nemo on 8/2/13 at 12:50

I'm still here you buffoon.

By: Jughead on 8/2/13 at 12:50

Nimrod: Please go to the service counter at the Bucksnort library to get more free PC time. And, don't forget that big brother is watching those XXXX sites you visit. Make sure you blur your face when uploading pervert pix of yourself.