Up for Debate: New plans for Antioch

Wednesday, June 19, 2013 at 12:28am

Break down the announced plans for the old Hickory Hollow Mall area. Do you think what has been proposed is the best use of the area? What would you do differently?

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103 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 9:51

Here maybe this link will help to understand the many steps leading to HHM decline.

http://deadmalls.com/malls/hickory_hollow_mall.html

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 9:53

Don't worry, Ben. Your building has a few turkeys.

By: MamaG on 6/19/13 at 9:57

When I worked in Woodbine, and HHM was just being built, it was so cool to have a nice, big mall so close. I would take my (handicapped) boss there to shop and she would always buy something for me while we were there. It was so much newer and cleaner than Rivergate was at that time. I haven't been out there in many, many years but I hope something good comes from this.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 9:58

Hiya, MamaG.

By: BenDover on 6/19/13 at 9:59

We're cashing out on the condo, blanket.

I was talking about the Nipper's Corner house.

We're not going to rent the Lavergne house anymore though so maybe I can keep some chickens out there... and some bees too.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 10:00

Good luck with the condo sell. Now is a great time to do that!

By: MamaG on 6/19/13 at 10:00

We used to raise chickens, among many other things, when I was growing up. (We did not live in the urban services district.) I did not like to feed the chickens, nor did I like to gather the eggs. I was always afraid of the chicken snakes!

By: MamaG on 6/19/13 at 10:01

Hey Blanket! :-)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 10:01

Chicken feed draws rats too. Overall it's not a good idea for an urban services district.

By: BenDover on 6/19/13 at 10:04

They sure do eat bugs though. Nary a tick to be found anywhere when you've got chickens.

By: bfra on 6/19/13 at 10:06

Blanket - And mites, and lice, plus chicken yards stink!

By: MamaG on 6/19/13 at 10:07

Chickens will eat anything! We used to pick the hot peppers off the plant and they would eat them right out of our hands! LOL But they stink to high heaven! I think we had enough cats and dogs that we never had a rat problem anytime. We did have the dogs chase a skunk under the house once. Talk about gross!

By: bfra on 6/19/13 at 10:09

Ben - That's guines! With guines, you don't need an alarm system either. Can tell you wasn't raised in the Country.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 10:25

LOL bfra

My neighbor use to have guineas. I love to hear them making their sing-song squawks daily.

By: budlight on 6/19/13 at 10:27

Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 10:39
bfra, I was very disappointed that allowing chickens in the city was passed. That doesn't help struggling neighborhoods such as Antioch. We have plenty of Farmers Markets that supply fresh, local eggs. Farm animals should be in the country.

Blanket, District 33 (near Starwood and towards Nashville and Priest Lake) is excluded from the chicken. They are NOT allowed here. I just spoke with the Councilman and he said that the area is excluded from having chickens due to the Corp property, wildlife, etc. He says that did that exclusion to keep predators down (skunks, coyotes, etc.).

But it still doesn't matter to some people. They don't know the laws, don't care about the laws and do as they wish. Some people from Brentwood are renting a horse property near me. They proudly told me they HAVE CHICKENS. So they can't keep them in Brentwood and bring the nasty things to Antioch. No respect. Antioch gets no respect (might as well be a Smothers Brother).

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 10:30

Chicken are allowed in Ar2A districts.

By: bfra on 6/19/13 at 10:31

That's Rodney Dangerfield about "no respect". Don't just sit on your butt bud, report chickens that are being kept where it is illegal.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 10:32

bud, that really sucks. If you don't already know about it, use the link I posted that allows you to report codes violations and track them online. It helps!

By: bfra on 6/19/13 at 10:34

Nemo - Some districts were omitted from allowing chickens. That did include most of Antioch, but I don't know exactly where the district boundaries are.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 10:40

I’ve got deer, wild turkeys, coyotes, hawk, eagles, falcons and rumors of a panther, bears and a Big Foot. The last three I question.

By: bfra on 6/19/13 at 10:47

Nemo - LOL Be sure & post a picture of Big Foot, if you ever get one. Bears, possible!

By: MamaG on 6/19/13 at 10:53

Yeah, I want to see Bigfoot picture too! I have seen wild turkey's in my yard/neighborhood as well. My son said a giant bird was on top of the house! LOL I guess to him it was giant-sized.

By: MamaG on 6/19/13 at 10:54

RIP Slim Whitman...

By: brrrrk on 6/19/13 at 10:56

Frankly I think that in a lot of ways HH got an undeserved bad rap. I knew people who worked at both the Green Hills and Cool Springs malls who used to tell me all the time about various issues that they had that never seemed to make the press. How about the shootings at Opry Mills? My wife and I were there when that went down and the press didn't dump on Opry Mills like they constantly dumped on HH.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 10:59

bfra

There was a bear found near Land Between the Lakes a few years back and reports of bears in Jamestown and Crossville, TN. They are moving back into their old range again and we humans need to learn to live with that possibility.

As for the coyote… suburbia and urban areas have a bigger problem with them than I do in a rural area.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 11:02

Ben I like the Nippers Corner area.

RIP Slim

By: brrrrk on 6/19/13 at 11:04

Captain Nemo said

"There was a bear found near Land Between the Lakes a few years back and reports of bears in Jamestown and Crossville, TN. They are moving back into their old range again and we humans need to learn to live with that possibility."

I'm constantly bewildered by people who move to rural areas (particularly in the west) and then complain about or do away with all the dangerous wildlife in the area. Hell, why move there in the first place!! It's like moving to the ocean and then complaining about how humid it is........

By: budlight on 6/19/13 at 11:04

: Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 11:32
bud, that really sucks. If you don't already know about it, use the link I posted that allows you to report codes violations and track them online. It helps!

Thanks Blanket. I was Beautification Commissioner for over 1.5 years recently and tried my best to "clean up" things. I have the "bulk item pick up" for metro on speed dial to deal with mattresses, sofas, tv's etc. Just 2 weeks ago, a toilet appeared in a ditch; then a day later a t.v. appeared. I laughed and said the guy who owned the property must have added a bathroom to his property.

I wish we could catch the low-lifes who dump things. After all, a call to Metro Customer Service is free @ 862-8750 plus the link you posted.

The sad part is that the dumpers get away with it. They dump over and over and no one catches them. I've even asked for cameras and was told we can't afford it, but we can afford to keep coming back over and over and picking up after them.

There are many volunteers who are just plain tired of walking the streets, picking up other peoples' trash, but we all keep trying.

By: bfra on 6/19/13 at 11:04

Nemo - I have several friends in the Nippers Corner area & for the last few years, it has been going the way of Antioch in a lot of the area. Sec. 8 dupleses, low rent apts., etc.

By: pswindle on 6/19/13 at 11:09

Before Dean starts a new project, he needs to put enough money in the Fairgrounds to bring it back fully. This is a treasure that is worth saving. In fact, Fair Park should come back now that Opryland Park is gone. What a wonderful draw this would be for Nashville.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 11:11

Brrrrk-

The Opry Mills and the Green Hills incident were unusual and not recurring events, as HH.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 11:15

That is the truth, brrrrk. I moved into the country to see the wild life. They are more predictable than the two legged varmint in the cities. Lol

I did not know that bfra. Sorry to hear.

By: bfra on 6/19/13 at 11:16

Nemo - Yep! they were. Cool Springs has also had a rash of very dangerous issues that never made it to the media, for what ever reason.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 11:24

Ben, I would have thought that you would have preferred Thomason station.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 11:27

I could understand Cool Springs not wanting the publicity and the Brentwood and Franklin Chamber of Commerce keeping a lid on it.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 11:28

I could understand Cool Springs not wanting the publicity and the Brentwood and Franklin Chamber of Commerce keeping a lid on it.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 11:29

Sorry about that burp

Sorry about that burp.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 11:32

bud, I have a little tip for you that worked for another neighborhood. They put up a fake camera and added a little mirror that would reflect headlights to draw the dumpers attention to it. The dumping stopped and so did the drug deals that were happening in that spot. They thought it was real. You can buy fake cameras online pretty cheap.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 11:40

http://www.thehomesecuritysuperstore.com/fake-security-cameras-gaw-c=28?gclid=CK6-y5HV8LcCFeHm7Aod_z4AoA

$5.95 plus shipping.

By: brrrrk on 6/19/13 at 11:41

Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 12:11

"The Opry Mills and the Green Hills incident were unusual and not recurring events, as HH."

Cap, I hate to disagree with you.... but like I said, I know people that work at various malls.... just because it doesn't make headlines or doesn't get on the 6 PM news doesn't mean it isn't happening. Green Hills and Cool Springs (and the various other businesses in those areas) have a vested interest in making sure that it's all on the QT.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 11:47

brrrrk, I bet the folks who work in the local media probably live in those areas and don't want their property value to go down.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 11:49

brrrrk-

Years ago I had a paper rout in West Nashville and then I transferred to route in Green Hills. I got to know some of the Police Officers and told them that I had got a safer route. They informed me, that I had a safer route not a safe route.

So what you are saying is true, I don’t think it is in away a high crime area.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 11:50

I know it has only been three days, but I already miss Loner.

By: brrrrk on 6/19/13 at 12:18

Blanketnazi2 said

"brrrrk, I bet the folks who work in the local media probably live in those areas and don't want their property value to go down."

Like they say, follow the money.....

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 12:24

Yep, that'll usually get you closer to the truth.

By: budlight on 6/19/13 at 12:38

Thanks Blanket. I would like to believe that we could get our neighborhoods safer, but with people losing jobs, being jealous of other people's stuff and just plain not wanting to work, I am not optimistic. We have 9 houses on our street. 4 have been broken into and things stolen. One of them had a truck back up at the back door and almost clean it out. Sad! In daylight when everyone was at work.

We leave our blinds open. Our t.v. is a 1998 analog. If they want it, it's heavy; they will need 3 people and a big truck. Other stuff in my home - not worth $5000 all total. Old blender, old coffee pot, old computer, old people. LOL

By: BenDover on 6/19/13 at 12:40

We call it Brentioch Nemo.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/19/13 at 12:41

At least it's good if neighbors know each other and can keep an eye out. My neighbors are like hawks when it comes to unfamiliar cars and people. We have a listserv and an email goes out to everyone if something even looks halfway wrong. That can make all the difference.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 1:38

The best neighborhood watch dogs, is the old busy-body that know what everyone is doing.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/19/13 at 1:39

Or you might say the NSA.