Up for Debate: A new pope

Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 10:58pm

How do you feel about the selection of Pope Francis, the first non-European pontiff? Is it a wise decision? Is he a good or bad choice? 

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163 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 3/14/13 at 2:18

They need to let American-style democracy into the Catholic Church.

Let all the Catholics vote....but the popular vote would remain meaningless, like it is here...the College of Cardinals would act as the Electoral College...casting their votes in an all or none fashion, like we do here...Two Political Parties would be needed, like we have here...a "conservative" and a "progressive" one....and the glare of the media needs to be brought in...expensive and nasty campaign ads, of course, like we have here...and special interest "donations too, like we have here in the states...if the Catholic Church would simply reform and emulate our system, their problems would soon vanish....like they have here.

By: slacker on 3/14/13 at 2:20

Loner, he's coming in on one lung and a prayer...

By: bfra on 3/14/13 at 2:25

Loner - The Pope lost that lung at a very young age and has made it to 76. So I don't think he will be none the worse now.

I know to Catholics, this is a big deal. But as a non Catholic, my sentiments, "What's all the fuss"?

By: Loner on 3/14/13 at 2:25

...Roger that, Slacker....foam the runway...his gear may not come down....hydraulic units are out....still, no mayday call....standing by....

By: Loner on 3/14/13 at 2:33

That lung has been doing double duty for 70+ years? This is not reassuring information, Bfra...I do wish the man well...but any Pope is a target for criticism, even ridicule...not universal veneration...we "progressive" Americans tend to question authority....nothing personal....just our nature.

By: Loner on 3/14/13 at 2:45

Let's put it this way, a 76-year old man with one lung would have a hard time finding an affordable new life insurance policy...just sayin'....hope he beats the actuarial tables.

By: bfra on 3/14/13 at 2:50

Right on the insurance, it's hard for a healthy person to find affordable life insurance.

By: brrrrk on 3/14/13 at 2:51

"Churches are becoming political organizations....

It probably will not be long until the churches will divide as sharply upon political, as upon theological questions; and when that day comes, if there are not liberals enough to hold the balance of power, this Government will be destroyed. The liberty of man is not safe in the hands of any church. Wherever the Bible and sword are in partnership, man is a slave.
All laws for the purpose of making man worship God, are born of the same spirit that kindled the fires of the auto da fe, and lovingly built the dungeons of the Inquisition. All laws defining and punishing blasphemy -- making it a crime to give your honest ideas about the Bible, or to laugh at the ignorance of the ancient Jews, or to enjoy yourself on the Sabbath, or to give your opinion of Jehovah, were passed by impudent bigots, and should be at once repealed by honest men. An infinite God ought to be able to protect himself, without going in partnership with State Legislatures. Certainly he ought not so to act that laws become necessary to keep him from being laughed at. No one thinks of protecting Shakespeare from ridicule, by the threat of fine and imprisonment. It strikes me that God might write a book that would not necessarily excite the laughter of his children. In fact, I think it would be safe to say that a real God could produce a work that would excite the admiration of mankind. Surely politicians could be better employed than in passing laws to protect the literary reputation of the Jewish God."

-- Robert Green Ingersoll (1879)

By: dargent7 on 3/14/13 at 3:42

In my youthful day, the Pope was designated by God. Or, so I was meant to believe.
Not some ceremony by elected officials ( Cardinals in red capes) in a "conclave" writing out secret ballots.
"When the smoke turns white..then we'll have a new Pope!..." and everyone goes beserk?
The Indians invented the "smoke lodge" centuries ago.
The Tee-pee is as old. Remember "smoke signals" as their form of communication?
And I thought the Scientologist's and Mormons' were weird.

By: yogiman on 3/14/13 at 4:56

Just checking in and up, children.

So, gdiafante, tell me, what does precedent law have to do with the Constitution? The constitution can only be changed with an amendment, not a simple decision, be it congress or a judge.

By: Rasputin72 on 3/14/13 at 5:32

LONER.........What a lovely day for a shipboard cruise and brunch with other Republicans. I appreciate your gator warning but in the Palm Beaches they have been rounded up and killed or moved out years ago. You might consider a visit sometime. Bank walkers like you need to be careful. Real estate is expensive here and they call bankwalking trespassing. You would have to use some of the aftet tax residue from your gross 46,000 a year income.

If you see someone in an innertube, it most likely is one of your own kind. I have no interest.

By: yogiman on 3/14/13 at 7:00

Nor I, Loner. I quit going afloat when I was discharged from the Navy.

When I left the dock I took my life jacket off and moved inland.

By: budlight on 3/15/13 at 4:08

y: Loner on 3/14/13 at 2:45
Let's put it this way, a 76-year old man with one lung would have a hard time finding an affordable new life insurance policy...just sayin'....hope he beats the actuarial tables

The Pope has the best life insurance (assurance) from our Heavenly Father, God. He will beat the acturial tables and then some. This man is a Jesuit and if you libs don't get what that is, it is that he loves the poor and helps them. He always has. Thank God that men like him still exist. Helping the poor with no political aspirations. He didn't run for his office. He was elected and selected by God Almighty.