Up for Debate: NHL locks out

Monday, September 17, 2012 at 12:44am

How do you feel about the NHL lockout that started Saturday night? How much does it concern you, even if it could mean no hockey this season? As fans, how do you feel when major sports leagues hold lockouts while they negotiate over millions of dollars?

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124 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 9/17/12 at 11:48

Rasputin mental disorder comes from a lousy gene pool. He has to put others down in order for himself to feel empowered. His use of underclass is so over used, I can't help but to think of a little feller trying to look big in a world of giants.

By: yogiman on 9/17/12 at 11:51

dargent7,

I normally feel sorry for idiots because they usually are short on brain cells. But with you being in a bunch of [supposedly] educated people that so willingly accept a man who you have no idea who in the hell he is as your president, I can't feel sorry for you.

I can only say you're going to find out soon and I don't think you're going to like what you'll learn.

By: bfra on 9/17/12 at 11:55

Nemo - Raspy jumps in with both feet on things he apparently knows nothing about & when called, runs like a turkey.

By: bfra on 9/17/12 at 11:57

d7 - When the thing makes a comment like the 11:51, take it as a compliment. You just posted something that shows them "wrong" again.

By: yogiman on 9/17/12 at 12:42

Sorry bfra,

But you are wrong again. I have asked for proof but you have never given any. Why? Because you don't have any. Why not? Because Barry Soetoro will not give you any.

As I have posted before, prove me wrong and I'll apologize and accept your man as president.

You, and your friends, have made all kinds of ludicrous comments to and about me, so why haven't you proved me to be wrong?

And by the way, it takes more than you just saying you're right. Prove it.

By: gdiafante on 9/17/12 at 12:43

Raspy, I do see the big picture...I see that the reason the U.S. became a world power is because of a thriving middle class. When the middle class prospers, the entire country prospers.

What we've seen in the last decade is the erosion of that middle class. It's to the point that the largest investment that the middle class has, their home, is no longer valuable. Why is that?

Oh yeah, because banks, spurred on by bad government decisions (who needs regulation?), decided to gamble our future on sub-prime loans. That's turned out well.

There should be no argument for less regulation and/or the Bush Tax Cuts. NONE. The only way out of this is the hard way...and it's going to be painful, for everyone and everyone should have to pitch in because we've all been complicit in getting here.

This is the United States, we're all in this together. This individualistic crap has to go.

By: gdiafante on 9/17/12 at 12:45

Yogi, you've been proven wrong so many times it's embarrassing. I'm beginning to think you're inbred.

By: yogiman on 9/17/12 at 1:01

So when did you prove me wrong, gdiafante? When you said I was wrong? You have not offered one piece of evidence to counter my claims on Obama. Why not? Because you don't have any, and you won't as long as he refuses to release his papers.

Evidence has proven so many times his "birth certificate" is a fake. Evidence has proven so many times his SSN is a fake. Evidence has proven so many times his registration number is a fake. So what identity papers have you seen that proves him in office legally?

I hate to say this, but you aren't like the Marines I served with in the 40s and 50s. You must have taken a different oath.

By: dargent7 on 9/17/12 at 1:07

Yogi-itus:
Your problem with Obama is he isn't from the Donna Reed Show or Ozzie and Harriet, Father Knows Best....My Three Sons...none had ONE Negro on it.
I think Norman Lear's, "All in the Family" introduced America to "blacks" that may move in next door to you with The Jeffersons.
Also, Obama was only 47 when elected.
He didn't have a 30 year resume in the Halls of Congress or Senate like a Orin Hatch or Ted Kennedy.
JFK was 46 and a PT109 boat Cpt. Clinton was 46 but as a Rhodes Scholar, went to Oxford to study.
Obama is a Harvard Law grad. Get it? We need brilliant thinkers in the Oval Office.
Not knee-jerk warmongers who shoot first, hide the returning soldier's coffins, and then bury the collateral damage.
How many times is the Middle East going to accept our sincerest "apology" for a drone going off course and killing a family of 12? Our Marines shooting a family in the back for revenge? They're tired of our bullshit. And, open your eyes, it is bullshit.
Being a military man like McCain who's got dementia at 72 is no longer a requirement to become President. Eisenhower was the last one. Your boy Reagan slept with chimpanzees. Like Michael Jackson.
Where did Romney, at 65 serve? How about his 5 sons..where'd they serve? No where.

By: gdiafante on 9/17/12 at 1:13

Actually, yogi, the birth certificate is not a fake, and I have cited the following in the past (at least FOUR times):

The U.S. Constitition
U.S. Code
Case Law
Supreme Court decisions

Look in the archives. You're so damned stupid I have to explain it over and over and OVER again. Enough is enough. He's the President and you're a dumb old racist with sour grapes. Grow a pair instead of whining like a little girl all the damn time. It's pathetic.

By: bfra on 9/17/12 at 2:28

gdifante - You personally & others have posted all types of proof of gualifications for Obama legality. yogi has never posted "proof" of anything, just his whine 24/7.

By: yogiman on 9/17/12 at 4:13

dargent7,

You make remarks about Romney and his sons not serving. May I ask: When did you serve?
Where was you assigned? What danger zone was you assigned to?

By: bfra on 9/17/12 at 4:26

Dodo head, when did d7 or anyone in his family enter the President's race. Don't you understand any thing?

By: yogiman on 9/17/12 at 4:27

gdiafante,

you can mention names of any paper you say you have mentioned but you made no reference to the section of the book you "mentioned".

What section of the U.S. Code was you referring to? What case lay was your referring to? What Supreme Court decision was you referring to? Simply put, the U. S. Constitution lays the sole rules to run for the Presidential office. Read Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 5.

Until Obama can and will present those requirements, I'm going to continue my argument. If you can prove it for him, be my guest.

Not just your thoughts, or words. I want facts.

By: bfra on 9/17/12 at 4:40

OMG - gdiafante, has even posted pages of facts to that effect. gdiafante, ignore the dodo head. He is an insult to yogi bear!

By: yogiman on 9/17/12 at 4:49

BS, bfra,

gdiafante hasn't posted facts, let alone pages to me. But if he did, I apparently didn't understand what he was referring to.

So how about you referring them to me again and make sure you know what you're talking about on your referrels.

By: bfra on 9/17/12 at 4:51

By: yogiman on 9/17/12 at 4:49

BS, bfra,

gdiafante hasn't posted facts, let alone pages to me. But if he did, I apparently didn't understand what he was referring to.
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Your, I apparently didn't understand what he was referring to, says it all. Go look it up yourself dodo head!

By: yogiman on 9/17/12 at 5:33

I apparently don't think like you and your "buddies" on this site, bfra. So tell me, why should a man and his sons volunteer to the services just because he's running for the President's office? Did he, or any of his sons know he was going to run when he reached 65 so he should have volunteered when he was a young man?

Take that brain out and sprinkle it with a little vinegar, bfra. It might help it work better. You've got too much sourkrout on in now.

Now, with your argument, why didn't Barry Soetoro volunteer to serve? Oh, I'm sorry, he didn't have to. He's different.

You are like Obama; he insists Romney shows his tax returns but it's okay for for him to keep his papers under lock and key. So what makes him the exception? Could it be because he is in that office illegally? I'll bet that's his reason. Wanna bet?

By: Rasputin72 on 9/17/12 at 5:45

Gdiafante.........I like what you say about we are all in this together. We ALL, must make a supreme sacrifice.

The United States became a world power because we were the only unscathed winner during WWII. The entire world was dependent upon the United States for products to re-build their countries. The USA was a country of 150 million people. Labor was in short supply and that is what sends wages upward for the masses. This in itself created the middle class.

Our government and their free trade theory was more to blame for allowing the rest of the world to get in on the supply chain. They did not protect what the greatest generation has earned with their valor and victory in WWII.

This debacle included both democrats and republicans. The United States government in my opinion was the biggest perp in the loss of the middle class. When Japan Germany Italy,Korea,France and others rebuilt their countries with our money that created competition for our expensive labor (by world standards) Then when Clinton gave China Free Trade status that opened the door to being able to buy a can opener at Wal Mart for $12.95 a steep discount from the one made by Oster in McMinnville,Tennessee for $24.95. A bicycle made in Lawrenceburg by Murray-Ohio was priced average at $75.00 when the Chinese got those goods into WAL-MART at an average price of $35.00 that pretty much put 2500 employees in Lawrenceburg out of a job. We Americans bought those Chinese can-openers and those Chinese bicycles and the government stood idly by and did nothing.

Murray Ohio is out of business. Oster is out of business in McMinnville and a flourishing electric motor business in Tennessee is gone and so are the good jobs with benefits.

Century Electric in McMinnville (800 employees) Universal Electric in Ripley,Tennessee (600 employees) General Electric in Murfreesboro (300 employees) Morrill Electric in Rocky Fork and Johnson City,Tenn with (200 employees) Century Electric in Lexington,Tenn (300 employees)

I could list on and on the companies that have succumbed to the power of the consumer for lower prices because of the high wages and government restrictions on companies. No tariffs of any consequence. Wholesale mayhem in the manufacturing sector. These were the good jobs.

Today the jobs are service industry jobs and the country has 300 million people not 150 million people wages are being surpressed by the natural evolment of world competition.

The 1% are masters of finance they only reacted to the events that were world driven.

If the United States government wants to help the working class they should do two things. Cut back on the welfare we provide to the underclass and set a minimum wage that meets the criteria required to live in this country,

If the United States government continues to think that people like you are not going to continue to angry that had better do something a lot more action oriented than picking on the 1%. If you raised our taxes 50% it would still be no more than a drop in the bucket of what is needed to right this ship.

Class warfare is nothing more than a very successful campaign strategy.

We could raise tariffs on foreign made goods but obviously now that we are dependent on copper,steel,manganese,silver,chromium,oil, and other commodiites produced elsewhere in the world there would be a reaction to that action. America would then be an economic island. To your point and that of others we may become an island standing against the rest of the world. The world does not want the United States and their crooked and forked tongue government to provide the police work for the rest of the world any longer.

We have big big problems in this country that are bigger than the 1% and raising wages for the working class.

I think nothing the United States can do will recitify this situation. If I had the power it would be to raise the minimum wage and modify the tax rate as Obama has offered on every family making more than ADJ gross income of $300,000. Progressively raising that rate to 50%.

I would raise the capital gains rate to the normal tax rate on capital gains that are held less than three years. On capital gains that are held longer than three years they would remain the same at 15%. This would put great pressure on those Wall Street sluts who are as criminal as our Senators and our Congressmen.

By: parnell3rd on 9/17/12 at 5:54

Today it cost me $45.00 to fill up my car with gasoline. The same amount in 2008 cost me $24.00. I would like to personally thank all the people who voted for Obama.
Is this the change you voted for?
"When I'm elected President, the Muslim countries will respect the USA" Sen. Obama, 2007. Wrong
"When I'm elected President I will close GITMO in my first year" Sen. Obama 2008. Wrong
"When I'm elected President I will end both wars is my 1st term" Sen. Obama 2008 One out of two ain't bad.
"If the economy does not rebound, I will be a one term President" President Obama 2010. Let's hope he is right about that one!

By: yogiman on 9/17/12 at 8:46

You can figure on doubling the prices if he can pull off usurping that office again.

I just heard of something interesting, parnell3rd. My nephew told me Fox News is going to have a show at 8PM Central time and said Barry won't like it.

I'm staying home and locking my doors and dare anyone to come to my house Sunday evening.

I'm gonna have me a big bag of pop corn and a big glass of soda pop.

By: dargent7 on 9/17/12 at 9:02

Douche:
Listen to the Romney tapes about how he really feels about 50% of Americans.

By: parnell3rd on 9/17/12 at 10:17

You know every night when Pres. Bush was in office Wolf Blitzer would give the Casualty count of American Soldiers Killed in Afganistan. He has not done this once since Obama has took office. Could it be because more of our Soldiers have died under Pres. Obama's leadership? Or is Wolf Blitzer a racist? Or what?
Remember he said he would end the war in his forst term. He has 3 months to keep his word.

By: parnell3rd on 9/17/12 at 10:25

Another day another lie from Washington DC. They claim that a movie trailor posted on Sept 12 caused all of the violence around the world on Sept 11.
Really? Or can the violence be blamed on the Demoncratic Socialist Convention when they mentioned 21 times that they killed Osama bin Ladle? (misspelled intentionally)