Up for Debate: Paula Deen ditched

Monday, June 24, 2013 at 1:17am

Do you think Paula Deen should have been dropped from the Food Network after what she said or did network executives overreact?

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74 Comments on this post:

By: govskeptic on 6/24/13 at 6:22

Had the same remarks been made by a Network employee, who made a sincere
apology (as Mrs. Deen has done) it would have been a one day story and over.
Build them up and then destroy-that's the American way.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/24/13 at 6:43

Fox just offered her a slot for a cooking show.

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 7:08

What was on her mind when she made that comment to begin with? Was she sincere with her apology or did she just make it to get excused for it to keep her job?

By: govskeptic on 6/24/13 at 7:14

Yogi: Why don't you write "Her" and ask your questions?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/24/13 at 7:38

This is one of the stories I have not kept up and I have no opinion with. But if FOX has hired her....

By: Captain Nemo on 6/24/13 at 7:46

What Network employee, gov?

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 7:51

Simply think about yourself, govskeptic. Isn't it quite normal to make a verbal apology about an error you made when you actually believe what you said but you want your 'disagreers' to accept it by an apology?

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 7:56

Interesting in today's time.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALN7LTeLx7l&feature=youtu.be/

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 7:57

Ah-Oh gov., you just got analyzed by the dullest tack on the board.

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 8:07

Well, I know it's easy for you tho think for yourself, bfra... because there isn't much [up there] to think with.

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 8:09

I definitely didn't keep up with or watch her program. IMO, her method of cooking was way over the top of being very unhealthy, however, I have dined at her restaurant (or her brother's) and it was quite tasty. I was just careful what I ordered.

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 8:11

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 8:07

Well, I know it's easy for you tho think for yourself, bfra... because there isn't much [up there] to think with.
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If that makes sense, somebody please explain!

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 8:15

Did you see her on TV making her apology, govskeptic? Look at her closely. It usually isn't hard to tell when someone is lying. Look closely at their face, read their lips and look at their eyes.

If you have seen them talking before, you should learn when they are lying.

The big difference between there, and here, is so many of the posters on this site don't seem to know, or care, what the truth is and you don't have to see them to know when they're lying.

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 8:17

If you're as smart as you think you are, bfra, you should readily understand it.

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 8:19

Do you know when yogi is LYING? When his comment appears on the board.

By: Rocket99 on 6/24/13 at 8:34

It is interesting how they pick & choose on firings based on their celebrities actions. Guy Fieri should have been fired a long time ago for some of the things he has said and done publically.

As far as Paula goes, she will survive this little blip. Hope she's smart enough to stay away from FOX.

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 8:40

Well, bfra, am I lying if I make the statement bfra never tells a lie and always tells the truth? I'll readily admit, I would be lying for telling such an outright lie..

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 8:45

yogi - If you made that statement, it would be the first TRUE statement you have put on this board. I never saw the reason for lying & the truth is much better. You try to use lies to make points about your feeble untrue notions & most everybody see right thru them.

By: PKVol on 6/24/13 at 8:46

I would not be surprised if more than 50% of the population over 50 years old has used the "N" word at some point in his / her lifetime. To use it in 2013 is no longer acceptable. The issue is today and the fact that very few people would consider this appropriate usage. If she really had an attitude of discrimination and racism, I'm guessing she never would have done a show with Pat and Gina Neely, nor the many other African-American guests she's had on her show.

By: budlight on 6/24/13 at 8:50

yogiman on 6/24/13 at 7:08
What was on her mind when she made that comment to begin with? Was she sincere with her apology or did she just make it to get excused for it to keep her job?

Which comment Yogi? She called a black guy the "N" word. She did that many, many years ago. She did it during a bank robbery where she worked and he had a gun pointed at her. I'd have called him a lot worse. She was being kind when she spoke of him later.

And the so-called "out takes" that were filmed with her cussing. So what. They were outtakes and not intended for publishing. Other people have sworn and gotten away with it. So she's got a foul mouth in private. If an obama cabinet can swear, so can a chef. We have all read the reports about obama swearing and the other members of his cabinet using foul language. I wonder how many times obama has said "cracker", "honky" or "whitie"?

Or any of these people on this site?

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 8:53

It is just a PC word that is really no worse that many others. Stop at any street light & the chances are good you will hear it on a blaring radio, usually driven by a black person. If you around very many black people, you will hear it quite often, even on TV shows & the movies. Deen made a slip & should be no big deal, especially after her apology.

By: budlight on 6/24/13 at 8:58

What exactly was the "slip" bfra? She called a bank robber who held a gun to her head the "N" word YEARS AGO BEFORE the politically correct police were patrolling! Why is she being crucified for that? What would you call anyone who pointed a gun to your head? A saint. An angle? A lovely person? No, you'd be swearing up a storm.

You are right. It is no big deal. They use worse in rap songs - you are correct.

By: BenDover on 6/24/13 at 9:01

Agree bfra.

I suspect Maher will support her on it too. He's pretty consistent in defending against speech police political correctness.

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 9:02

bfra,

You're an expert at constantly calling me a liar, but you're a lousy inferior mentally in not giving a reason for your accusation.

By: budlight on 6/24/13 at 9:10

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OK, off to the trenches. Keep up t he good work fighting with each other. It will accomplish world peace, probably.

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 9:23

PKVol,

Since I'm scaring the hell out of my age bracket (83), may comment on your comment and I'll say you are right to a point.

Those of you over 50 years old should remember there was different styles of speech in all parts of our nation back then. Not many people in the North called a black person a '******'. It was usually the proper pronunciation of their race; Negro.

In the South, we, in essence, spoke a different style language and the Negroes were called '******'. Not in a demeaning way, but in OUR language style back then.

WWII brought this nation together more than any thing else through the growth of transportation and communication.

Today, a New Yorker like Loner is like a 'next door' neighbor.

When I went in service in 1948, you could tell where everyone was from by their voice. Today, about the only ones you can tell where they are from is the people of Boston. They seem to still have their old language.

By: robbchadwick on 6/24/13 at 9:24

We have no way of knowing what is truly in her heart; but her explanation of the circumstances surrounding her use of the racial slur sounded believable to me. She was born in the south where it was once customary to use it. That does not make it right; and she basically acknowledged that over the years she has grown to understand that it was wrong and that she had changed with the times and no longer uses such terms. I think this mirrors the experience of most people who were born and/or live in the south. Therefore, it's my opinion that the entire issue should have been resolved right there.

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 9:28

Tell me, bfra, what is the difference in eloquence with a black person calling a black person a 'n!gger' and a white person calling them one? Their race should not be a factor.

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 9:32

Who said there was any goofus?

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 9:38

yogi - You can get your stupid questions answered on Google. YES! Google does attempt to answer "stupid" questions.

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 9:39

robbchadwick,

To take y'all a little deeper into the South back in the "old days", only the black people who weren't worth having around were called n!ggers. The black people who were honest law 'abiders' were called Negroes where that word was in the comment being spoken.

And again, different language styles were spoken in the USA back then. The times they are a changing... every day now.

By: robbchadwick on 6/24/13 at 9:40

Yogiman: No one should use the term ... black or white. However, there is a perceived difference that it is less offensive when used by a black person in reference to another black person. I suppose an analogy would be that I can say negative things about one of my family members; but you cannot. That's not a perfect analogy; but I think it illustrates the perception.

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 9:41

Huh? What in the hell are you 'talking' about, bfra?

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 9:43

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 9:41

Huh? What in the hell are you 'talking' about, bfra?
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I should have known you would be too dumb to understand!

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 9:45

robbchadwick - That pretty well sums up the usage of the N word.

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 10:11

Yep, it's hard to understand anything you're saying, bfra. It would help if you could use simple wording in your sentences.

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 10:17

yogi - I would have to resort back to before I started kindergarden for you to understand. Unlike you, I have a brain!

By: Badbob on 6/24/13 at 10:18

Her use of the word fit perfectly into the context of her goal - she wanted to be part of a plantation owner, slave holder era that is long gone. He racism runs very deep, at the core of her soul actually, as this whole story points out.

She is just another old, white, racist from Georgia. She will fit in perfectly at Fox.

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 10:27

Badbob - Unless you are personally acquainted with her, how can you make that call?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/24/13 at 10:55

I think it was a much bigger deal that Paula Deen kept her type 2 diabetes secret, than her using the N word 20yrs ago. I suspect that the Network wanted to get rid of her for some other reason.

By: BenDover on 6/24/13 at 11:02

No... I'm pretty sure that fear of retribution from the PC police over the N' word is what got Paula popped, Nemo.

By: Miata_Man on 6/24/13 at 11:04

Anyone over the age of 40 that says they have never used the N word is liar, PERIOD. If African Americans are so outraged about whites and other groups using this word, they should first clean up their own mouths; how can you expect the rest of us to respect you when you can't even respect yourselves? And BTW, bfra and Yogi, can't you two meet on the middle school playground and resolve your differences? Geez.

By: BenDover on 6/24/13 at 11:04

This is like a pretty decent 10 comment discussion with Yogi filters on Maximum.

By: yogiman on 6/24/13 at 11:12

Sorry, Miata_Man,

It can't happen. Just note who starts this malarkey every day. I'm a self defender, not an obtrusive offender.

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 11:15

WhaMiata_Man - Agree with you on the N word. The other - only a few on this board goes along with yogi LIES. I just totally despise a LIAR!

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 11:16

Miata-Man - Omit the Wha beginning on my comment. Sorry about that error.

By: MamaG on 6/24/13 at 11:28

I don't think she should've been canned for this. However, her contract with the Food Network was coming to an end anyway. Perhaps this was their 'out' with her and used it that way.

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 11:34

MamaG - Could be! After she admitted she had Type II diabetes, it seemed kinda hyprcritical the way she cooked. Having this myself, guess that was one reason I didn't bother watching her shows. She never cooked anything I was supposed to have.

By: MamaG on 6/24/13 at 11:47

I understand what you're saying, bfra. I like to cook and if I cooked anything she made, I would just adjust accordingly. I would never put the amounts of butter and ahl (oil) in dishes like she did. :-)

By: bfra on 6/24/13 at 11:47

Gee! My mistake day - hypocritical.