Up for Debate: Police padlock markets

Tuesday, July 10, 2012 at 11:42pm

Do you agree with the move by law enforcement officials to raid and padlock local markets that allegedly sold synthetic? Is the shuttering of businesses and seizure of money a good use of law enforcement resources, or do you believe the producers will just find other ways around the law? How do you generally feel about public nuisance laws being used to shutter businesses — something Metro police has stepped up the past few years?

 

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117 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 9:23

Before I plant my garden I use my Widescarper to plow the land.

Bea Itch-

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 9:31

BigPapa has a good point. Legalize weed and then you have some control over the sellers and buyers. Plus there is new revenue basis.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 9:31

I agree, Rasutin72. Didn't one of those young men "leave" the country to take his citizenship to another country to avoid paying through his a$$ when they sold Facebook?

That makes me believe you should pay a fair tax for money earned in this country. You shouldn't get exemption through foreign citizenship. Earn it here, by damn, pay for it here. They should be willing to pay for the privilege to be allowed here to earn it.

By: slacker on 7/11/12 at 9:36

Good observation Big Papa & Nemo. They could sell weed in liquor stores, and... gasp consider wine in grocery stores.

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 9:38

http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/07/27/why-do-some-people-pay-no-federal-income-tax/

So, to summarize Raspy's position: Tax breaks for the wealthy = Capitalism. Tax breaks for the poor = Socialism.

My position: Common sense would dictate that those who have more can pay more. 10% of nothing is still nothing. I don't disagree about a national sales tax, but what would happen to the states that already have one, like TN?

It doesn't matter what tax system we have, some will complain that they pay too much and others will complain that someone is getting away with murder.

That's why nothing will change. Politicians blow smoke every election cycle but what do they actually do about it?

By: dargent7 on 7/11/12 at 9:43

The point about Romney: He's so filthy rich, illegally, morally, ethically, or legally, he doesn't even know where his money is.
How stupid is that statement who protrays himself as a, "superb money manager"?
With, "tremendos business acumen"?
He hides the truth, hides his religion, tax returns, tax shelters,....he hides everything.
Therefore, he's got something to hide, wouldn't you say?

By: Rasputin72 on 7/11/12 at 9:45

Gdiafante......Long ago it was determined that you and I have different views about politics and social responsiblity. I do not think anything we post or say will change our opinion. I would like to say that in my mind there is a huge difference between giving a tax break to those who support the financial strength of the United States and "free stuff" for those who take away from the strength of the United States.

I always gave an extra discount to my largest and most profitable customers who were the lifeblood of my business.

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 9:47

I'd say he's quite normal for his station, darge. But, he's smart enough to know (or his handlers are) that the average American citizen won't buy that image. And that's really all it is. They want everyone to think he's a normal guy.

He's one of us

"Us" being those peons that make the median income, pays a mortgage, is in credit card debt, has high student loan bills and is generally one serious illness away from financial ruin.

Now, excuse me while I supervise the installation of my new home elevator...

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 9:49

Wait, you can't have it both ways, Raspy. The "financial strength" of this country is in dire straits...we're broke. We got this way because of poor spending habits, one of which is the Bush Tax Cuts.

Here's a term that you may be unfamilar with, reinvestment.

I know, crazy, isn't it?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 9:55

If elected I will tie the dog on top of Air Force One and install 50 new elevators in the White House and spend tax money to find my money.

Mitt Romney-

By: Rasputin72 on 7/11/12 at 9:55

Gdiafante........I liked the eloquence of your 9:47. We don't have to beat this to death any longer. We got this way because of poor foreign policy and poor spending habits, none of which had anything to do with the Bush tax cuts.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 10:02

Results of Bush tax cuts and offshore banking.

Scranton, Pa., mayor cuts city workers’ pay to minimum wage

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/northeast/view/20120710scranton_pa_mayor_cuts_city_workers_pay_to_minimum_wage/srvc=home&position=recent

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 10:28

dargent7,

I'd much rather see Romney hide his wealth that he earned legally than see Obama hide his citizenship.

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 10:30

Raspy, are not the tax cuts deemed spending? Did they not cost in the trillions (and counting)?

To say they haven't contributed is laughable.

By: bfra on 7/11/12 at 10:31

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 10:28

dargent7,

I'd much rather see Romney hide his wealth that he earned legally than see Obama hide his citizenship.
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So nitwit do you have the papers to prove he earned it legally?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 10:32

LOL bfra

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 10:36

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 10:28
dargent7,

I'd much rather see Romney hide his wealth that he earned legally than see Obama hide his citizenship.

Translation; I had rather have a thief in the White House than a darkie.

By: bfra on 7/11/12 at 10:40

Nemo - That pretty well covers yogi's reasons against Obama.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 10:47

Well, bfra,

You seem to have the same intelligence as dumbo. Are you brothers, perhaps? Or just mentally equals?

Race has nothing to do with [whoever he is] in the Oval Office. His illegality "paints" the whole picture.

By: bfra on 7/11/12 at 10:47

yogi at this very moment is frantically searching his trash sites for a response!

By: bfra on 7/11/12 at 10:49

Guess he couldn't find a response, so he dribbled out a slur!

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 10:53

If yogi dribbles it is because he had not changed his diaper.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 10:54

I wonder if Widescarper is painting her bridge before codes get there.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 10:56

I got to go now, bud will soon follow.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 11:01

I see where Hilarious Clinton is going to the UN soon to sign and Arms Trade Treaty, which if ratified during the lame-dock session of Congress it will be goodbye for our 2nd Amendment.

Unless you're willing for the UN to override our Constitution, Alexander and Corker need to know where you stand on the 2nd Amendment. Not that is means anything to them.

By: brrrrk on 7/11/12 at 11:03

Ummm... said

"The holdings whose whereabouts Romney claims he 'doesn't know' are in a so-called 'blind trust.' Of course, this 'blind trust' just happens to be managed by one of his best buddies and has made 'investments' in one of his children's businesses. Apparently, he will abide by the rules of a 'blind trust,' as long as it isn't really 'blind.'"

Here's a guy that argues that "blind" trusts aren't really "blind".....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkikKelEuQM

As Andy Griffith once said, "I don't know why I am always getting my britches caught on my own pitchfork."

By: brrrrk on 7/11/12 at 11:06

My God yogi, haven't your medications kicked in YET?!?!

By: bfra on 7/11/12 at 11:07

brrrrk - Didn't Chaney have a bunch of those blind trusts?

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 11:33

Nope, I'm using better pills than you're popping, brrrrk. You might try some of mine. They could help you avoid your ignorance better.

By: brrrrk on 7/11/12 at 11:37

Here's another thing to consider. Anyone of these offshore shell corporations that Romney has can easily funnel money into his campaign without us even knowing about it. All they have to do is create a PAC that exists for 24 hours, contribute money from the shell corporation to the PAC, have the PAC make their necessary contributions, and then shut the PAC down. And no one will be the wiser...... Easy peasy lemon squeezy.

By: brrrrk on 7/11/12 at 11:39

yogiman said

"Nope, I'm using better pills than you're popping, brrrrk. You might try some of mine. They could help you avoid your ignorance better."

No thanks, I suspect you get your pills from the bottom of the rabbit hutch.

By: Ummm... on 7/11/12 at 11:40

That video you linked illustrates what a duplicitous liar Romney is, brrrrk. Of course, the dupes who vote against their own interests would much rather have a lying tax cheat than a black man with a funny sounding name.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 11:42

I saw on internet last night where a Muslim clerk at a Texaco gas station in Louisiana refused to let a GI in uniform buy gas. It was noted there is several other Texaco stations owned by Muslims doing the same thing. No more from Texaco.

Check it out. //freevideocoding.com/flvplayer.swf?file=http://edge.ebaumswor

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 11:52

I don't know about you, Ummm, but I would much rather have a legal lying tax cheat in office than a lying communist Muslin of the Islamist faith.

By the way, have you read the booklet that's come out showing his 69 lies at the time of it's print. But, hey, man, he's got more now.

By: bfra on 7/11/12 at 12:25

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 11:52

I don't know about you, Ummm, but I would much rather have a legal lying tax cheat in office
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As that would be one notch above yogi, he thinks that is great. A legal lying tax cheat for President.

By: BenDover on 7/11/12 at 12:28

"The Dems aren't interesting in having him arrested, they just want enough ammunition to win in November, then all will be forgotten. After all, many Dems are doing the same thing."

Guilty until proven innocent.

By: BenDover on 7/11/12 at 12:32

If they say eliminating the Bush tax cuts will collapse the economy then how is it that they 'cost' trillions of dollars. It would seem they are as necessary as air and without them we're only looking at a bigger percentage of a much smaller pie.

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 12:36

Who are "they"? In other words, cite economists that say the tax cuts are necessary and I'll show you some who say differently.

If you're serious about the budget, everything would be on the table. But we both know what's up, so let's dispense with the BS.

By: BenDover on 7/11/12 at 12:42

That's the whole fiscal cliff argument, gd.

Bernanke put it out there a few months ago and most everyone was agreeing with it until Bill Clinton got the smack-down from Obama for messing up his Class Warfare campaign strategy.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 12:44

Then you're saying you think it's better to have an illegal alien in office than a legal American citizen who didn't pay all of his taxes you thought he should have paid.

Just wondering: Are you a legal citizen who's so willing to take someone whose name you don't even know as your president?

Tell me, bfra, do you know Obama payed all due on his taxes? How, because he told you?

By: BenDover on 7/11/12 at 12:46

As I've said numerous times. I simply don't want the taxes to be more progressive than they already are. Let's go back to the Clinton rates. Then at least the majority of the people in to country would be paying some income taxes again.

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 12:55

Well I agree that Obama seems to have a class warfare strategy and it will likely work. But, on the other hand, it's not like there isn't a stacked deck against most of the country.

I'm all for equal opportunity to succeed, but I'm not sure how anyone can argue that is the case in America right now. And regardless of your beliefs on class, that is a problem.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 12:56

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 11:52
I don't know about you, Ummm, but I would much rather have a legal lying tax cheat in office than a lying communist Muslin of the Islamist faith.

If the empty head yogi only knew how unintelligent that post is; first there are no Muslims Communist and second there are no Communist Muslims. The two can not exist in one person.

Is this too much for a simpleton to understand?

I will answer this for myself…Why yes it is.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 1:23

They can't, dumbo? Then explain that to me. Going by his autobiography, he was raised in two families who were Muslims on his paternal side and a family who were communists on his maternal side. By whom was he raised and guided to be a true American?

Why has he refused to honor the national day of prayer? Why did he refuse to say the pledge of allegiance until after he was "elected"? Why did he clasp his hands over his crotch instead of his hand over his heart when the National Anthem was played?

Better question: When did he become a naturalized citizen when his mother sent him back to the US for his communist grandparents to take over raising him?

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 1:30

Another dumb question for a brilliant man like you, dumbo; what nation's passport did Barry use in 1981 when he "visited" Pakistan and Pakistan would not accept an American citizen in their nation?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/11/12 at 1:47

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 8:59
Freedom of speech in one thing, dumbo, but written or verbal devastation of character is not free speech unless you have proof.

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 1:23
They can't, dumbo?

By: yogiman on 7/11/12 at 1:52

Interesting show on our fuel situation.

www.pickensplan.com/boonecam/2012/07/09/happy-4th-anniversity/

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 1:54

Ignore the dochebag already.

By: BenDover on 7/11/12 at 1:54

I'm reluctant to throw a wrench into the system where the poorest among us live lifestyles in the top 20% of the world's wealthy gd.

All attempts to reign in the wealth disparity always end up hurting the poorest among the most us in the long run.

By: gdiafante on 7/11/12 at 1:54

s/h/b douchebag...you get the meaning.