Up for Debate: Predators reach end of road

Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 2:15am

With the Nashville Predators' season over, how do you rate their season overall? In hindsight, how do you rate their trade deadline moves as well as the decision to sit Alexander Radulov and Andrei Kostitsyn for disciplinary reasons and then again in Game 4? Can the organization hope to match the level of skill they had this year next season?

115 Comments on this post:

By: yogiman on 5/8/12 at 7:51

I must disagree with you on being required to issue credentials, Rasputin72. Barry Soetoro didn't have to present credentials (because he doesn't have any) or even his fake papers when running for the Oval Office.

And since Captain Nemo (as I use the term loosely) is a solid fan of Barry's, he doesn't have to present any either.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/8/12 at 7:53

There are too many factors in any sports that can cause for a team to win or lose. I think it is hard to blame it on just one source unless it is obvious; however it is fun for the water cooler conversation and the internet.

Go Preds for next year!!!!

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 7:56

Darge, I'm not arguing that the city and team could've made more money had they lasted in the playoffs, I'm saying that your argument that Trotz should've thought about revenue when sitting Rads and AK is ridiculously stupid.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/8/12 at 8:02

The yogi is one of underlings Rasputin, no brains to speak off and willing to kiss your ass for a morsel of bread crumbs.

By: Rasputin72 on 5/8/12 at 8:07

CAPTAIN NEMO........there are those who would be offended by your lack of sophistication. That is not my calling however. I fully understand where you are coming from.

By: Rasputin72 on 5/8/12 at 8:07

CAPTAIN NEMO........there are those who would be offended by your lack of sophistication. That is not my calling however. I fully understand where you are coming from.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/8/12 at 8:13

I must be getting to Rasputin, this is twice had double posted. LOL

By: Captain Nemo on 5/8/12 at 8:16

I really must be get to Rasputin, this is twice he has double posted.

Now I have edited it.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/8/12 at 8:22

Rasputin, I suppose that you are correct about some being offended by my lack of sophistication, but then there are those that are offended by you boorish attitude. That is not my calling. I understand you lack of understanding.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/8/12 at 8:28

I have enjoyed this little chit chat with you Rasputin, but it is time for me to go and make money. Don’t be too hard on him gdia, after all he is new to being around us under achievers. LOL

By: Ummm... on 5/8/12 at 8:41

I bet the original Rasputin was better looking.

By: Rasputin72 on 5/8/12 at 9:01

There are days when stirring the pot on this forum is tantamount to debating with Don Quixote. Nothing but the sound of a windmill.

By: Rasputin72 on 5/8/12 at 9:02

There are days when stirring the pot on this forum is tantamount to debating with Don Quixote. Nothing but the sound of a windmill.

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 9:07

I know what you mean, Raspy. I suggest you shut up and pass the Grey Poupon.

By: yogiman on 5/8/12 at 9:19

Hang in the, Rasputin72. Consider the advice and ignore it... and forget about that Grey Poupon. I prefer normal mustard. And some with a little honey mix in once in a while.

By: bfra on 5/8/12 at 9:23

I suggest Raspy get to the ""gin table at the ""club, he might miss something. BTW is that gin rummy or on the rocks?

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 9:48

Hang in the what, yogi? The rafters? Outhouse? Bedroom until you return?

Be specific...inquiring minds want to know...

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 9:52

And by the way, kudos to you for graduating from barnyard animals to humans. I knew you could do it.

By: govskeptic on 5/8/12 at 9:55

Someone is ill informed on this Sommet Center discussion. That company had
absolutely nothing to do with the Predators or management of anything within
the arena. They had a naming right only for a few yrs for which they paid a fee,
just as Bridgestone does currently which thankfully they can afford to pay! The
city does not get any of that revenue, just like they don't from the naming over
at LP Field.

By: yogiman on 5/8/12 at 10:12

I'm apparently not a compooter expert as you think of yourself to be, gdiafarter, so I do apologize. I stupidly left a couple of letters off one of the words. I meant "Hang in there" but pulled one of your "rare" errors and left an "r" and "e" off the end of the word.

As it being "there" do you understand it now?

By: dargent7 on 5/8/12 at 10:35

Trotz, who probably gets $250,00. a year, better be thinking about EVERYTHING.
I make less than $30,000. a year, and I consider EVERYTHING.
All I know is his team LOST. Sitting out two star players...for what?
He made his point...he LOST.
He's a loser.

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 11:07

Has anyone on this board seen their federal taxes go up an average of $15,000 per year, as Ben claims?

That comes out to over $52,000 in ADDITIONAL taxes for each US family under BHO...according to Ben Dover.....if that were true, the entire nation would be applying for welfare and food stamps.....as it is, the Dow Jones Industrial averages show strength and a rebounding economy....not a nation in which most of its citizens are absolutely bankrupt.

Again, I suspect that my old friend, Ben Dover, is hyping up the criticisms of this sitting president....fear is setting in on the right.

When BHO wins big in November, the sore losers will get another dose of bitter frustration....they have only themselves to blame....they trotted out a gaggle of clowns this go round and they know it....the Republicans simply have no new ideas.

If RP runs as a Libertarian, Willard Romney may lose bigger than George McGovern did. Millions down a rat-hole....once again.....I'm lovin' it.

Run, Ron, Run!!

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 11:12

Darge, you make 30K/year? Ben claims that half of that went to the federal government last year in ADDITIONAL taxes.....how can you survive on less than 15K/year? Don't you also want to git a rope and march on the White House?

Come on, ye pitiable paupers, grab a pitchfork... or a torch...let us march on DC....Ben will lead the way!

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 11:37

Is the economic sky falling, once again?

Will the EU implode and could that send us into a deep recession, just as things are looking up?

Yeah, things have been looking relatively bright for quite some time now -

Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway said first-quarter earnings doubled from a year ago to $3.25 billion, aided by the recent stock-market rally, an improving economy and fewer natural disasters.

Source:
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120507-708954.html

The Republicans may have to pin their election hopes on another global economic crisis....or another holy war.....they must be praying for disaster this summer.....a bunch of real American patriots....good Christian folk.....now led by a heretic....a Mormon.....this is almost humorous.

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 11:44

Actually Darge, they were 1-1 without the players, 0-3 with them in the lineup. Trotz is the coach, not the GM. If you're going to talk out your @ss, at least make sense.

Gov, the arena is operated by Powers Management, which is a subsidiary of the Predators. Sommet's naming rights were paid to them. The Preds sued Sommet because they didn't pay. See how that works?

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 11:55

Boy, when the air comes out of the puck, the atmosphere is affected for days....Buffalo suffered through their period of rapid deflation too....the air there is still pucked up.

This too shall pass....time heals most wounds...but some never heal.....they still grieve and pray for the return of the Dodgers to Brooklyn.

By: brrrrk on 5/8/12 at 12:09

Loner said

"This too shall pass....time heals most wounds...but some never heal....."

Ain't that the truth.... they're still waitin' for the ghost of good ol' Jeff Davis around here.

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 12:24

Here are four Jeff Davis quotes, Brrrrk:

"If slavery be a sin, it is not yours. It does not rest on your action for its origin, on your consent for its existence. It is a common law right to property in the service of man; its origin was Divine decree."
~Davis

"African slavery, as it exists in the United States, is a moral, a social, and a political blessing."
~Davis

"My own convictions as to negro slavery are strong. It has its evils and abuses...We recognize the negro as God and God's Book and God's Laws, in nature, tell us to recognize him - our inferior, fitted expressly for servitude...You cannot transform the negro into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables them to be."
~Davis

"Were it ever to be proposed again to enter into a Union with such a people (Northerners), I could no more consent to do it than to trust myself in a den of thieves...There is indeed a difference between the two peoples. Let no man hug the delusion that there can be renewed association between them. Our enemies are...traditionless.".
~Davis

Source:
http://www.csapartisan.com/jefferson_davis_quotes.html

By: yogiman on 5/8/12 at 12:35

It seems there's only two kinds of sport teams, fellers. One is a winner and the other is a looser. They just have to be willing to fight like hell to determine who goes home crying as the looser.

Does any sport still accept ties at the end of a game? I looks like the only ties accepted are in the dressing rooms when they're getting ready to go back onto the public streets.

By: BenDover on 5/8/12 at 12:57

The point loner is that these guys are now running up the obligation of taxpayers by about $15,000 per family every year in excess of what we already pay. Do you think that's a good idea my friend?

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 1:10

Loser, yogi...it's loser...as in you are a loser.

Yours is a superior intelligence? lol

By: govskeptic on 5/8/12 at 1:16

gdiafante: You don't have to tell me how it works, I had to previously explain
it to you without using your screen name. As a matter of fact, just a few days
ago you even mention The Sommett Group's former affliction as being part of their problem! You brought it up again at 7:52 today. Granted you are today's
Predator expert, but attempt your verbal bullying elsewhere!

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 1:23

Verbal bullying? LOL

Yes, the Sommet fiasco set the Predators back, there's no denying this. They overcame it by gaining a better partner, Bridgestone, and (1) fielding a better team, (2) staffing competent employees that know how to market the team and (3) bringing in more corporate sponsors.

'll try to put this as delicate as possible so not to damage your fragile psyche, but if you think Sommet didn't damage not only the Preds reputation within Nashville, but their bottom line, you're either naive or uninformed.

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 1:29

I see, Ben Dover...BHO is running up a tab...an extra 15K/year per US family...we just aren't being billed....in other words, BHO is doing exactly what Bush & Cheney did....they ran up a huge tab and then rode off into the sunset....inexplicably enriched.

The twin holy wars that Bush-Cheney presided over have cost us over 1.3 trillion dollars....but they did not bill us directly either, did they?

Here's my source on the 1.3 trillion:

http://costofwar.com/en/

Ben was a cheerleader for the neocons and their holy wars...he never has complained about taxpayer money going down those twin rat-holes....his outrage is selective.

By: dargent7 on 5/8/12 at 1:30

Personally, I don't know either of these guys.
If their name's aren't English, I assume they're from Canada or Russia.
Now, Mike Smith, I get.
All I do get is that he won.
Nordquist, "had words" with him?
"Had words" with a goalie"?
How bad is that coaching?
How about in the Kentucky Derby I'm as a trainer, pissed off, and I "had words" with another horse?

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 1:41

Really Darge? You've never seen players (yes, even goalies) mouth off to each other? Do you remember Ron Hextall? Patrick Roy?

As they say on ESPN, C'mon man...

By: BenDover on 5/8/12 at 1:43

Bush's tab was based on the one time cost of war loner; entered into with bipartisan majorities and consensus of the leadership of both major political parties.

Obama's racking up more than that $1.3Trillion EVERY SINGLE YEAR loner... and it's an expansions of the bureaucracy and entitlements that are on-going and not a one time cost.

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 1:44

One time cost of war? Are you serious?? Ten years later and you say one-time cost?? That's a WTF moment, Ben.

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 1:45

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 1:45

By: BenDover on 5/8/12 at 1:48

By comparison Bush's $1.3 Trillion you are complaining about works out to about $1,450 per family per year. Obama's current burn rate is MORE THAN 10 TIMES THAT AMOUNT at almost $15,000 per family per year.

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 1:49

And let's be honest here, the reason the tab looks so bad is because revenue is down. I wonder what Bush's (or any others) tab would look like with the unemployment we've had.

Just remember how well Austerity is working in Europe. As I said before, you don't cut spending and taxes in a recession.

To defend Ben, I don't really see the administration trying to do anything but raise taxes on the wealthy. They haven't even begun to deal with the housing crisis in a meaningful way.

Granted, with the Grand Obstructionist Party as opposition, not much can get done.

By: BenDover on 5/8/12 at 1:52

It is a 1 time cost just like WWII was a one time cost and the Spanish American war was a one time cost and Vietnam was a 1 time cost.

By: BenDover on 5/8/12 at 1:58

Obama's persistent jacking around with his regulatory authority, Dodd / Frank, Obamacare, union bolstering with the NLRB, and the uncertainty fostered in Obama's class warfare games are why employment has not recovered. That and very un-fortuitous timing on the minimum wage increase.

By: BenDover on 5/8/12 at 2:01

Oh... and the ridiculous war on fossil fuel and the activist EPA. Can't leave that out.

By: gdiafante on 5/8/12 at 2:10

BS Ben. All of it.

Obama has done very little that Bush didn't do. If there's uncertainty in the market, it's because of Europe more than these phantom Socialist policies.

Maybe you should go to France to see a real Socialist. I think they just elected one.

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 2:10

According to Ben Dover, wars are "one-time costs"...I think that we should give him some slack...so that he can retract that claim...with dignity.

Think about what you are alleging, Ben.

By: Rasputin72 on 5/8/12 at 2:12

Well, I see that the envious and bewildered have charged George W. Bush with the crime of a Nashvile ice hockey team losing to the Phoenix Coyotes.

I understand the league sold the Coyotes to a fellow with a minor stake in the San Jose Sharks. The rumor is that he bought the Coyotes for less than 100 million dollars. One report was that he bought for an amount several Phoenix banks thought it was worth.

The financial fireworks for the the ice hockey franchise in Nashville are far from over.

By: BenDover on 5/8/12 at 2:19

Well loner... you put the cost of Iraq war at $1.3 Trillion. Will that $1.3 Trillion be spent on the war in Iraq again over the next 10 years?

Obama policy gives us deficits higher than that every single year.

By: Loner on 5/8/12 at 2:19

LBJ and Tricky Dick ran up a really big tab during the Vietnam War....the inevitable inflation struck the nation when Gerry Ford was left in the hot seat...it burned his ass badly; it burned us all....the financial costs of that war continue to this very day.

The human costs of that and any war linger well beyond the end of the fighting...those are not "one-time costs". Go to your local VA hospital and ask those guys if their sacrifices were "one-time costs".

Ask anyone who has lost a loved one in any war about the "one-time cost" aspect of war-fighting.

The moral costs and the lost honor of nations who instigate illegitimate wars linger forever.