Up for Debate: Proposed charter school would shift focus

Wednesday, November 9, 2011 at 12:28am

What do you think of the proposed new charter school for West Nashville? Is it a good idea or a bad one?

 

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By: dargent7 on 11/9/11 at 5:26

What's a "charter" school? Named after the Magna Charter?

By: Loner on 11/9/11 at 6:11

Good morning, Dargent7 and good morning, Nashville!

I left this on the main board for this story:

Here's the real reason behind the good reasons:

"DeLoache is a trustee of the Joe C. Davis Foundation, which assisted with the recent launching of the Tennessee Charter School Incubator. He is the cousin of Anne Davis, wife of Mayor Karl Dean."

A little inside pull can work wonders. Nepotism is a time-honored Southern tradition.

Deregulation and privatization of governmental services, such as education, are supposed to save taxpayers money, while providing superior service. The facts indicate the opposite to be the case.

Privateers have a history of bilking the system and providing an inferior product. And governmental oversight vanishes in the process. The privateers bribe the lawmakers with campaign cash and the rip-off expands in scope and depth.

Add a religious education component to the mix and you get a real mess.

When the Southern segregationists abandoned the idea of public schools, once they were forcibly integrated, the seeds of disaster were sown. Tennessee and other Southern states opted for private "Christian schools" for affluent whites and the public school system decayed into its present state of shameful deterioration.

You are reaping what you have sown....enjoy the fruits of hate!

By: Loner on 11/9/11 at 6:12

OK, got that out of the way...ready to deviate off-topic....standing by.

By: dargent7 on 11/9/11 at 6:29

L'ner: Has Cain dropped out yet?
Maybe the threshold for these guys is #10.
4 doesn't seem to make the cut.
Tiger Woods holds the record at 16.
Clinton, an ameteur, only had 2 before elected President.
His big lebowski Lewinsky didn't happen for a few years later.
Maybe America needs a celibate gay man in the W.H.?
This group, the National Restaurant Association who paid 3 of these women a year's salary to just "go away" is culpable.
I bet Gloria "pit-bull-shit" Allred will sink her chops in them.

By: dargent7 on 11/9/11 at 6:38

Just learned Heavy D died at 44.
Steve Jobs at 58 was a little too young.
Andy Rooney at 92 seemed about right.
44?
At 52, I could be next.
What's that tunnel and a bright white light I see?

By: Loner on 11/9/11 at 7:16

I saw Cain's press conference live...he said that more women may accuse him...what does he know that we don't know? It ain't over.

Cain should quit, but he is such a deluded egotist, he may have to be given the lead pipe treatment by the GOP leaders...he's stinking up the place. The burnt pizza smoke is clearing the room...smoke alarms are screaming..they're opening the windows to let in some air...they call out, "Jeb! Jeb Bush! Come save us!"

The righties are dismissing the idea of sexual harassment itself...de-legitimizing the notion. That's going beyond defending the perps, they're claiming the sexual harassment laws, rules & regulations are all bogus and should be done away with. This is to be expected, the corporations are being sued, therefore the Republican Party is defending the perps and denigrating the plaintiffs.

By: Loner on 11/9/11 at 7:22

Darge, you're a kid...I'm 64, and I feel like a kid...until my L-4 vertebra let's me know the sad truth.

My hope is that when we die it's all over...no post mortem justice...no Resurrection of the Dead and Judgment Day....can you imagine sitting through the trials of well over 700 billion accused hominids? And that's just "Earthlings Day in Court". Sounds Hellish to me.

I can't blame folks for having no faith, professional holymen perverted and distorted human spirituality. Likewise, I cannot fault folks for believing in an afterlife; the non-believers have been systematically removed from the gene pool...now, most people are hard-wired for superstition and religion.

We are all lucky to be here...the odds are astronomical....I'm satisfied with winning that lottery....thanks.

By: Loner on 11/9/11 at 7:27

Darge, I loved Andy Rooney...the lovable curmudgeon. Always the outlier, Rooney was an intellectual loner. He should have been given more minutes on Sixty Minutes, IMO....they used Rooney as an after dinner mint, so to speak.

If there is a Heaven, Rooney is in there...bitching about something, no doubt....long live Andy Rooney!

By: dargent7 on 11/9/11 at 7:41

Yeah...I remeber the days when I was young and good lookin'.
Well, young.

By: Loner on 11/9/11 at 7:43

I gotta make another run to Albany, the state capital today....that's a nearly five hour trip...on the NYS Thruway (I-90). The hotel room is nice, however, another 2-day deal. I might post from there tonight and tomorrow.

Think your day started out bad, Darge? At about 3 AM my hound dog woke me up to go outside...poor old Buddy couldn't make it to the door...canine diarrhea....OY!

Scooping the gooey doo and shampooing the carpet at 3 AM is not a lot of fun....hope that's the end of it. I had fed him a can of Alpo, lamb with rice last night....bad can?

Just had to share that with my friends in Nashville, TN.

By: dargent7 on 11/9/11 at 7:44

At least you have a song written for you, "When I'm Sixty-Four".
I think McCartney turns 70 next year.

By: dargent7 on 11/9/11 at 7:45

...sounds like what I did with my ex-wife.
Where in the hell is everybody today?
Is it a Holiday?

By: Loner on 11/9/11 at 7:56

Yeah, where is Serr8d, the Light of the New Learning? Probably went off to picket against the hi-tech lynching of another black man...he's such a humanitarian...Mister Tolerance.

His boy is mortally wounded....Serr8d dearly loved the idea of a Cain Presidency...no more "Pizza for Every Pie-Hole" campaign promises...no more of Sgt. Schultz's Nein, Nein Nein plan....no more dangling cigarettes from the mouth of Cain's "brains" guy.

Dammit, the pizza party's over....turn out the lights on the horny Pie-man who would be President....the Democratic choice for the GOP nomination.

By: yogiman on 11/9/11 at 8:05

Lonedr,

You say Mr. Cain should step down because of those accusations. Well, Mr. Cain has offered to take a lie detector test. Just wondering; how many of the "lady" accusers will take a lie detector test?

I have.t heard of any of them willing yet, have you?

By: BenDover on 11/9/11 at 8:16

What up, homies?

By: dargent7 on 11/9/11 at 8:25

yogi: Try to keep up...there were two women who were given a "year's pay" to "just go away..."
If there was NO truth to their complaints, the NRA would pay them $35,000 to $45,000.?
Now, he's up to 5 women.
So, you prefer this blatant liar vs. an "usurper"?
Use that half hemispere you have left.

By: Loner on 11/9/11 at 8:33

Yo Ben!

Yogi, lie detectors lie...the science is very shaky....convicts know how to cheat the machine by simply using a thumb tack in the shoe...they stick themselves when asked the neutral questions and don't prick themselves when the loaded question comes up...that's an old trick, but it still might work.

With Cain's frequent use of the double negative, he could beat the machine right there....if Cain "doesn't know nothing", that means he "knows something", get it?

Cain's use of the English language is about as ham-handed as his solicitations for casual sex seem to be. Cain was a speech maker? Man, the tokenism system produces some downright sh*tty results....GOP favorites Michael Steele, Clarence Thomas and Herman Cain all suck(ed) at their jobs....let me throw Condi Rice in there too...a fawning dingbat, IMHO.

By: BenDover on 11/9/11 at 8:39

Another charter school? Maybe I should open the Fredrick Hayek School for the children of Wayward Keynesian Liberals. We could teach economics and machine shop and maybe get the country back on the right track again.

By: Loner on 11/9/11 at 8:40

Darge wrote, "Use that half hemispere you have left." Yogi is working with a quarter sphere? He's doing pretty good, if that's the case...an IQ above fifty, with a quarter hemi is very good....of course, I'm no neurologist....just sayin'.

Ben, what's next for the GOP, now that Cain is no longer able?.....he's now the unacceptable burnt offering. Will the born-agains go for Gov. Perry, ditching Mitt, the heretic cult member? Is it too late for Jeb to step in? Give us the skinny from the right, Doctor Dover.

By: Loner on 11/9/11 at 8:43

I'll send my 23 year old grandson down there to enroll, Ben....he's great at making roach clips, for instance...kid takes after his dear old grand daddy.

By: BenDover on 11/9/11 at 8:46

It's gonna be Mitt... the media is crucifying anyone who gets close. It's all about protecting abortion.

By: yogiman on 11/9/11 at 9:00

Ya know, boys, its funny; the first four women brought on the accusation scene were black women. But when they couldn't get Mr. Cain to take his hat out of the run, they then brought three white women into the plot. Why four black then three white? Now, how many more are they finding to bring in?

And why wasn't this accusation brought in the ring when Mr. Cain announced he was in the run? Why did they wait until he became the front runner before throwing their accusations into the ring?

Ever wonder? Didn't think so. He's not a democrat.

And dargent7, you apparently very familiar with the use of false law suits against corporations. At the time they claimed for the "abuse" it was cheaper for the corporation to give them a few dollars and get them the hell out of the company than to spend possibly hundreds of thousands to get the cases thrown out of court for false accusation charges.

Just wondering, can all of those women cheat a lie detector? Let's wait and see, okay?

By: bfra on 11/9/11 at 9:04

OMG When you think yogi can't get any dumber, he proves that wrong and comments AGAIN!

By: yogiman on 11/9/11 at 9:07

typing too fast, dargent7; I over rode the aren't between apparently and very. Try reading the sentence again... okay?

By: yogiman on 11/9/11 at 9:17

What did I prove wrong then comment on again, bfra? What is proven wrong is in the minds of idiots like you.To you, if you don't agree, it must be wrong. Have you ever admitted you were wrong in your life?

Following your posts, I doubt it. As your post above; you made a comment but can't seem to comment your reason for your thinking. What is your reason other than your mental attitude?

By: bfra on 11/9/11 at 9:26

Reasons - Your lack of mental aptitude!

By: yogiman on 11/9/11 at 9:43

It seems your reasons can only come from your mental fragmentation.

By: Loner on 11/9/11 at 9:54

Yogi, here's the latest run down...a story broke about cash settlements with three former employees of companies where Cain was the boss and Cain was also the culprit...there was a hush or gag clause in their settlements....Politico broke the story and the sh*t hit the fan.

Then a fourth woman, Sharon Bialek, a white woman, went public; after that, one of the original three settlement plaintiffs, Karen Kraushaar went public, Karen is also blond and white.

We do not yet know the race of the two remaining accusers. Apparently Cain, like Tiger Woods, liked blond white women. But the race of the women is irrelevant to the charges....as far as we know....all the details are not yet known.

Cain admitted that more women may come forward with more allegations. Love children too?

Can't you see a pattern of abuse of power? Are you just defending Cain's behavior, or do you dismiss the validity of sexual harassment itself? Is this what you mean by family values?

Yogi, do you really want a guy in the White House who in effect said, "You want a job, then suck my d*ck, bitch."?

I thought that a BJ in the WH was an impeachable offense, according to the Republicans. Or is that only the case when a Democrat is being blown?

By: brrrrk on 11/9/11 at 10:06

Loner said

"Yeah, where is Serr8d, the Light of the New Learning? Probably went off to picket against the hi-tech lynching of another black man...he's such a humanitarian...Mister Tolerance."

He's probably in his parents basement working on more images of Obama with a bone in his nose....

By: Kosh III on 11/9/11 at 10:45

I found a comment by a pundit yesterday to be quite interesting.

The TPers (amd most of us really) despise "lobbyists."

Cain is the ultimate lobbyist. That Restaurant Association he was head of is one of the largest and influential lobbys in DC. Cain is the ultimate insider wheeler0dealer.

Where's the outrage and rejection from the right.

Yogi? Do you think a lobbyist is a good candidate? How about a ticket of
Cain/Abramoff? LOL

By: brrrrk on 11/9/11 at 10:58

Kosh III said

"The TPers (amd most of us really) despise "lobbyists."

Cain is the ultimate lobbyist. That Restaurant Association he was head of is one of the largest and influential lobbys in DC. Cain is the ultimate insider wheeler0dealer.

Where's the outrage and rejection from the right."

To steal the title of a David Brock book, they are Blinded By The Right

By: jvh2b on 11/9/11 at 11:22

Good lord yogi -- go put your foil hat back on and let the other patients use the computer...

It's a massive commie conspiracy ongoing 60 yrs to get a non-american into the white house (cause ya know someone born here wouldn't go along w/ a commie plot...) and NOW it's a massive conspiracy to keep a black man out of office.

Yeah all those women are just out for money, trying to discredit him b/c he's a republican...has nothing to do with the fact he's a sleaze ball who can't tell the truth. The man had waffled so much during this that Waffle House should be offering him an endorsement.

Now go put your foil hat back on...the big bad commies are watching you!!!!!!!

By: yogiman on 11/9/11 at 11:45

I know we all think differently, Kosh III (thank God for that).

As of now, I do not have a choice for the Oval Office. It's too early to make a decision on who I will vote next year...., if we get to have an election next year.

I also still follow our original legal ways of thinking... innocent until proven guilty and I'm just wondering why it took 14 years for those accusers to to make their accusations. I can only think of it as being political. Which then makes me wonder, how much were those women paid to make their accusations? And by whom?

And as I have mentioned before, since Mr. Cain has offered to take a lie detector test, how many of the women have offed to take it with him?

To post the old phrase: Time will tell. Let's all wait and see.

By: yogiman on 11/9/11 at 11:55

jvh2b,

I have not said Barack Obama was not an American. But then, since he keeps all of his papers under lock and key, we don't know if he is or isn't, do we?

If you do know he is, please give those facts to the public. And if he is, and you know any law, or know how to read, when he was adopted he lost his legal eligibility for that office. Should we just flush the Constitution down the toilet?

Another point to consider. Why is it not being mentioned by either party that Marco Rubio isn't Constitutionally eligible for the office? My thoughts? The republican party wants to place him of the ballot for their party and the democrat want it to be kept quite because if it is brought forth it will reflect on Obama's legal eligibility.

At your age, you can't know what the political scene has gone though over the past century.

Go back in history and look at the changes of this country since 1912.

By: dargent7 on 11/9/11 at 12:02

It's all a side-show.
Cain will EVENTUALLY drop out.
He's got his 15 minutes of fame, and he's milking it.
It's human nature to take, steal, lie, etc.
Sadly, then we all appear to be "Christian" and profess our faith in God.
Name anyone who can pass the "mustard test", "litmus test" to become President of the United States, much less a city mayor anywhere in this country.

By: jvh2b on 11/9/11 at 1:13

Oh horses*@@ yogi - you claim the RIGHTFULLY ELECTED president of the USA isn't an American on an almost daily basis.

And you claim he's not a natural born American on an even more frequent basis. =)

The FACTS have been presented to you on numerous occasions, but your conspiracy theory laden pathetic a$$ can't bring yourself to accept the truth because you pick some insignificant nuance that only you and a hand full of nut jobs thinks invalidates the proof.

I really gotta quit trying to teach the pig to sing here...jesus.

By: brrrrk on 11/9/11 at 1:29

jvh2b said

"Oh horses*@@ yogi - you claim the RIGHTFULLY ELECTED president of the USA isn't an American on an almost daily basis.

And you claim he's not a natural born American on an even more frequent basis. =)

The FACTS have been presented to you on numerous occasions, but your conspiracy theory laden pathetic a$$ can't bring yourself to accept the truth because you pick some insignificant nuance that only you and a hand full of nut jobs thinks invalidates the proof."

Yeah anyway..... and Herman Cain is a perv... so take that.... :-)

By: jvh2b on 11/9/11 at 1:34

lol @ brrrrk

The truth strikes again!

By: BenDover on 11/9/11 at 2:18

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

By: bfra on 11/9/11 at 3:10

Talking about Ben's cohort, just put him right to sleep!

By: yogiman on 11/9/11 at 3:49

I'm afraid your ignorance is too obvious, jvh2b. You can't have any idea who the man claiming to be Barack Obama actually is. He may or may not be a native born citizen, but he certainly isn't a natural born citizen. We don't factually know, and he obviously doesn't want us to know. If he did, and was in that office legally, he would have thrown his birth certificate in our face when the question was first brought up.

I repeat the question: Why did the Senate question John McCain (who instantly presented his birth certificate), but they did not question Barack Obama? I couldn't get a positive answer from my senators. I did hear Obama refused to be questioned. My question remains, why did the senate allow it to happen?

Your argument is If a person with a foreign father whose wife has their baby in the USA, that baby is a natural born American citizen and eligible to hold the chair in the Oval Office.

Is "Barack Obama" actually Barack Obama or is he actually Barry Soetoro? If he reverted his Indonesian citizenship back to his American citizenship after his adoption by his Indonesian stepfather, did he also reverse his name back to his original name of Barack Obama? If he did, why has he kept it so secret?

Another question: Was the man whom you think is Barack Obama born in the USA or Kenya as he told a group of students? Or did I misunderstand him on TV that night?

You need to go back to school, child.

By: yogiman on 11/9/11 at 3:58

jvh2b,

You say the facts have been presented to me on numerous occasions. I must disagree.

Disagreements have been presented to me on several different occasions because of your ignorance of the laws, but not one fact has been presented to me. Why? Simply because you don't have a fact. You can accept and you can believe anything you wish, but that doesn't make the claim a fact.

Until "Barack Obama" presents convincing facts to people a lot more intelligent than I will accept, I'm going to stand by my argument he is in that office illegally.

By: yogiman on 11/9/11 at 4:10

One more point to improve your ignorance, jvhr2.

If a person ("Barack Obama") receives the majority of the votes running for the Oval Office, are you saying that person has won the race and is legally eligible to hold that office even though they aren't legally eligible to hold the office?

Study a little deeper, dumbo.

By: bfra on 11/9/11 at 4:28

3 regurgitated BBUURRPPSS! Without even a "pardon me". Bad manners!

By: brrrrk on 11/9/11 at 4:49

Watch deadbeat dad, Illinois Congressman Joe Walsh go ballistic when he doesn't like the questions at one of his "Cup of Joe" town hall meetings.... it really gets interesting around 8:20.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ct-76UB98s

This guys a clown....