Up for Debate: Rodney King dies

Monday, June 18, 2012 at 12:22am

The videotaped police beating of Rodney King, who died Sunday from an apparent drowning, and its aftermath led to deadly violent riots and a renewed conversation on race relations in America. What are your memories of the beating, the trial, the riots and the phrase "Can we all get along?"

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By: yogiman on 6/18/12 at 5:20

Racism has been in American since the beginning of the days of slavery in this nation. And it will always be in America through the superior attitudes of some of the people of all races.

By: dargent7 on 6/18/12 at 5:30

It was shocking the LAPD was found not guilty for using excessive force. 15 minutes of beating a defenseless man on the ground.....
But, the LA people destroyed their own city. A billion in damage. Real smart.
Had OJ been found guilty, they would of burned it down again.
His fiance' said he'd been drinking all day and smoking weed. Then went for a dip.
47 is too young for anyone even when you don't know their name.

By: Loner on 6/18/12 at 5:31

Good morning, Nashville.

What are my memories of the Rodney King beating, the trial, the riots and the phrase "Can't we all just get along?"

Rodney King was the most mocked man in America. Rush Limbaugh must have mocked the man hundreds of times over the years....his minions have mimicked the mocking to this very day.

The video was damning; no creature deserves to be treated like that.

Video taping was something new at the time and this case opened new legal groundwork. New legal tactics were needed.

The defense was successful, because the jury was shown the video over and over again, to the point that they became desensitized to the horror....they became numb to the shock.

This deliberate numbing effect has been used in similar cases since the King case....the tactic seems to work.

The riots were understandable, but not condonable. Like the hippies say, "Can't we all just get a bong?"

May Rodney King rest in peace.

By: dargent7 on 6/18/12 at 6:09

Three words: "All White Jury".

By: GuardianDevil01 on 6/18/12 at 6:32

If you run the tape backwards it looks like the police are helping him up.

But seriously, folks. No, he did not deserve to be beaten. But had he been drunk and speeding through my neighborhood and hit someone and I had gotten my hands on him that video would have looked like a Disney movie. Yes, the police were wrong, very wrong. But let's not lionize Rodney King. He was a bad, dangerous, reckless dude and a threat to the public safety.

By: dargent7 on 6/18/12 at 7:10

"....bad, dangerous, reckless dude(s), and a threat to public safety..."
For a minute there I thought you were describing the LAPD.
They tazed him 3x, stomped on his neck, beat him with batons, crushed his skill, smashed his jaw, blew out his eyeball from it's socket.
All because he tried to flee? 80% of all black men with outstanding warrants run.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/18/12 at 7:16

A country any country can pass all of the laws they want but culture difference not race will always be the potential for destruction.

In this country however there are so been dividing factions that ultimately there must be a revolution or some political division of states rights. This country is teetering on the brink of not only financial destruction but cultural destruction.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/18/12 at 7:20

Rodney King was a bad bad worthless human being. The cops who beat him were bad bad worthless human beings as well. There will always be bad bad worthless human beings on police forces throughout this country. There will be even more Rodney Kings being born in this country.

By: wiseguy1 on 6/18/12 at 7:36

Nothing but bad memories. Tape ... trial ... riots ... the only ones that know the enitre truth about what lead up to the beating recorded were the ones there. Many like to sit in judgement on partial information. Sad commentary on both sides of the coin.

As far as racial predujice goes, how many of us have been in line at grocery store behind somebody with WIC checks ... yes plural ... that is sporting more tatoos than we want to see, latest Nike shoes or some designer clothing, talking on an iphone or Droid and a few thousand dollars tied up in gold dental work and custom rims/wheels? Don't have a video, but it would make no differenece anyway. Probably two sides to that coin too and again nobody but the people with the checks know the whole story.

Recent news story in Jacksonville, FL where welfare credit cards are used in gaming parlors & strip clubs. http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Holding-Them-Accountable-Welfare-Dollars-being/hDUhZjkK6E--wuQpnfA0rw.cspx

The feds say it is Florida's problem to clean up and Florida says it is the Fed's problem. Meanwhile the tax payer is getting abused ... again. People paying the tax bill are angry but you can't speak up in the name of political correctness and being 'fair'.

Stand by ... race relations & class warfare situation is only going to get worse. No way it is going to get better with US government involved.

By: wiseguy1 on 6/18/12 at 7:40

Dang spel cheker got me again. predujice = prejudice

By: Loner on 6/18/12 at 8:04

Wiseguy1 wrote, "Stand by ... race relations & class warfare situation is only going to get worse. No way it is going to get better with US government involved."

I disagree.

Race relations and class warfare have been dealt with effectively when the federal government got involved. The Emancipation Proclamation is a prime example.

The passage of the federal government's Civil Rights Act, in the sixties, is a more current example.

Brown versus the School Board went all the way to the USSC in 1954. The federal government had to step in to end Jim Crow and state-sanctioned segregation.

When left to their own devices, the state governments have had a rather dismal record of advancing human rights.

The states that seceded from the union did so over the issue of African Negro slavery. We have come a long way since then...thanks to the union army and the US federal government.

By: gdiafante on 6/18/12 at 8:05

Race and class are legitimate issues. They're both coming to a head soon. You can't have the majority of Americans lose 40% of their wealth while Washington fiddles.

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 8:12

Rodney King... the main reason George Zimmerman is being persecuted for defending himself.

By: Loner on 6/18/12 at 8:13

The Rasp wrote, "This country is teetering on the brink of not only financial destruction but cultural destruction."

For you, Rasp:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EyGcXj84mE

It's Barry McGuire's original hit..."Eve of Destruction". (You can skip the ad).

Still a current theme....Holy Wars Suck.....this is another Protest Monday...I'll be manning the signage once again.....keeping the faith.

By: budlight on 6/18/12 at 8:29

"The video was damning; no creature deserves to be treated like that. "

Interesting! No one mentioned the innocent truck driver that a bunch of black thugs dragged out of his truck and almost beat to death, leaving him severely disabled for the rest of his life. King, on the other hand, became a t.v. celeb. For shame!

You are correct BenDover. George Zimmerman is being persecuted for defending himself. He was wounded when the kid pummeled him and bashed his head on the pavement and broke his nose. But his majesty, Obama, and his court (Sharpton and Jackson) are the judge and jury in that case.

I dare say that if one of you "accidentally" hits someone in a so-called disadvantaged neighborhood, you'll be beaten to death or severely wounded.

By: budlight on 6/18/12 at 8:33

Loner on 6/18/12 at 8:04
Wiseguy1 wrote, "Stand by ... race relations & class warfare situation is only going to get worse. No way it is going to get better with US government involved."

I disagree.

Loner, I think he meant that "as long as Obama is in charge and doing things like pardoning all illegal hispanics (and others), jumping in with his comments when his black professor has a problem, getting involved with the nappy comments and just plain using the Presidency to further his own personal views, we are not going to get better.

Right now Obama has an ad specifically seeking black voters and saying it. Shame on him. He's the ultimate racist and he's promoting it from the White House.

By: budlight on 6/18/12 at 8:34

Loner wrote "I disagree"

I, personally, agree with Wiseguy.

By: Loner on 6/18/12 at 8:34

Good morning, Ben, GD, Darge & the "new guys"......troll too.

I dunno...Ben....the Zimmerman-King connection sounds like a classic non sequitur. In the King case, the issue was police brutality. In the Zimmerman case, the issue is vigilantism

GD, I think that Washington's fiddling around in the Holy Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan helped to deplete the nation's wealth...it's credibility....and it's honor.

The recent Republican Presidents rosined up their bows and fiddled around with federal regulations in the financial sector and they fiddled around with their trickle down schemes...they fiddled and diddled with tax breaks for corporations and the one-percenters and they are now offering the voters similar GOP fiddle tunes.

Same old re[repertoire

It's time to pay the piper, not fiddle around.

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 8:38

The connection is the imminent threat of rioting in response to perceived police malfeasance, loner.

By: Loner on 6/18/12 at 8:38

Same old repertoire...that is...spellcheck glitch.

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 8:38

Hope you enjoyed your trip, Loner.

By: slacker on 6/18/12 at 8:43

At that time and place, if a white guy had fled from the police, and reacted as King did, they woulda tuned his arse up too.

By: Loner on 6/18/12 at 8:47

Ben wrote, "The connection is the imminent threat of rioting in response to perceived police malfeasance."

Failure of the court system in the King case....the criminal justice system.....that system is now being tested in the Zimmerman case.

In the King case, the police were accused of being too zealous in the performance of their duty...in the Zimmerman case, the police are being accused of not being zealous enough.

I see your point, Ben...about the potential for rioting.....will the fear of rioting bugger the system? We shall see.

By: gdiafante on 6/18/12 at 8:48

No doubt the wars have taken their toll, Loner. It's the let's keep doing what got is in this mess that is going to tip it.

By: slacker on 6/18/12 at 8:54

Loner good luck today. Walk like an Egyptian.

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 9:01

The premise doesn't match the facts though, gd.

The regulations that were added were a smoke-screen to cover up the biggest culprits in the matter; being Dodd, Frank, exuberant expansion of the CRA, and malfeasance at Fannie and Freddie. It simply perpetuates a myth... in that Bush and Co. were calling for increased oversight back to 2003 and earlier.

We know the big chunk of TARP that was spent to prevent a run on the banks was repaid with interest and then blown as part of this Keynesian fiasco that exceeded all of Bush's deficits in about 3 years and has had nil positive effect on the economy and can be only seen as positive from the view of the democrat's public-sector constituencies.

Unemployment persists due to uncertainty based on taxes, Obamacare, regulation, and the constant drum-beat of class warfare.

It's been a hand poorly played. Where Clinton recalibrated, reversed and claimed credit for a private sector recovery. Obama has doubled-down on failure.

All of Obama's bets are on divisiveness now. Based on sex, based on class, based on public/private, based on sexual preferences. It's a non-value-added scorched earth policy that none of us will benefit from.

By: Ummm... on 6/18/12 at 9:01

Rest in Peace, Rodney King. One less person for Rasputin, BenDover and brainedlight to pass judgment on and feel superior to.

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 9:04

Ahhh... blow it out your @$$ Ummmm.... nobody criticizes and overzealous police and judiciary as much as I do around here.

By: gdiafante on 6/18/12 at 9:07

Womp womp womp, Ben. Ummm is correct. Anyone that has more than two brain cells can see that it's a complex situation that has taken years and is a bipartisan effort. Your partisan BS is just that...BS.

By: revo-lou on 6/18/12 at 9:10

"By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 9:04
Ahhh... blow it out your @$$ Ummmm.... nobody criticizes and overzealous police and judiciary as much as I do around here."

Cause nobody good do the job better than Ben, so he can "fire at will."

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 9:10

Well it's nice to that you've come around to see it's not all Bush's fault gd.

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 9:12

But doesn't that undermine Obama's whole 'stay the course' case?

By: Rasputin72 on 6/18/12 at 9:18

Ummm..........I think my statement was as critical of the police as it was of Rodney King. I think that you in your envy and desire to be someone other than what you are clouded your ability to read comprehensively.

By: Rasputin72 on 6/18/12 at 9:18

Ummm..........I think my statement was as critical of the police as it was of Rodney King. I think that you in your envy and desire to be someone other than what you are clouded your ability to read comprehensively.

By: gdiafante on 6/18/12 at 9:21

Never said it was just Bush, Ben. Apparently you don't pay attention or can't think past your boner for Bush.

If Obama said "stay the course", he'd be an idiot. The "course" is continuing failed policies and Congress doing nothing.

Yeah, that's a plan.

By: wiseguy1 on 6/18/12 at 9:22

Loner ... there you go reading the history that the 'winner' propogates. If you dig a little deeper you will find that States Rights were why states seceded from the Union. Slavery was a part of the equation, but would have died out becasue of economic problems. Should we have waited for economic colapse of slavery? Certainly not, if you hold the Consitution near and dear. Read the Holy Bible, Americans did not invent slavery.

Look at the bigger picture since 50's & 60's. Sure US government took some badly needed action. Not sure the result is what was intended or even better. You have Bill Cosby speak out about African American parenting only get bitch slapped and ostricized. Jacksonville, FL is still under bussing requirements and NAACP won't settle. Probably never will, too much money at stake if they don't continue the fight. Hence, private schools have flourished so kids don't have to ride for hours on school busses to bad schools. Public schools continue to get failing grades. School Superintendent in Duval County/Greater Jacksonville area is a revolving door. Changes agout evey 3 years. Jim Crow laws were stamped out and now replaced with illegal aliens and dead people voting by the millions. Seems that the voting booth is the only place in the county that does not require some identification that you are who you say you are. Same logic employed here as with Dept of Agriculture support tobacco growers while Dept of Health was calling Tobacco compaines killers. Now that is one for the ages, wonder how that will go down in history books?

So lets peek back a little farther in history ... Putting indigenous peoples of what call America, land of teh free on reservations ... Cherokee nation relocation to Oklahoma ... taking back the reservation in the name industrial progress when oil was discovered. Uncle Sam sure did us proud there. Turn our focus to more current times ... Supported Shah of Iran, baby Doc in Haiti, the list goes on and on of corrupt governments we have supported in the name of democracy.

Bottom line is our government is decended to the depths cowtowing to PACs and special interests ... most of the 512 in DC could care less about the populace until it comes time for re-election and they say what is necessary to get re-elected. Our Federal Government is so dysfunctional it is incredible. And that is the fault of the voters in our fair land. There is truly no accountablilty for corruption.

Since you opened the door for slavery discussion, I contend that the modern slavery is public assistance. Pretty clever really. A political party using public funds to hand out cash to ensure block votes go your way. Legally and in the name of good no less. In the old days ... if you wnat to call the John Daly and Lyndon Johnson era old days ... private funds were used to accomplish the same thing.

Get your head out of the sand and look around ... how can you truly think the 512 elected and countless bureaucrats that make up the US Government can do anything but make a bad situation worse.

By: gdiafante on 6/18/12 at 9:27

Bottom line is our government is decended to the depths cowtowing to PACs and special interests ... most of the 512 in DC could care less about the populace until it comes time for re-election and they say what is necessary to get re-elected. Our Federal Government is so dysfunctional it is incredible. And that is the fault of the voters in our fair land. There is truly no accountablilty for corruption.


I'm not disagreeing, but we are pretty helpless to do much of anything. Money talks, and the government and special interests have made damn sure that the majority of Americans don't have it.

So we have two branches of government that are completely bought and paid for, now the third says that corporations are on equal footing with we, the people.

Short of armed revolution, how do you think this is going to end?

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 9:28

Congress did a lot between 2007 and 2010 gd. They agreed on a lot of economy destroying things. I think a little 'nothing' is in order and is a welcome relief to the other alternative we were suffering.

But if you've got a complaint about nothing it should be with the Senate who hasn't passed a budget in 3 years and who refuses to bring anything out of the house up for a vote.

By: wiseguy1 on 6/18/12 at 9:29

By: Loner on 6/18/12 at 8:34 "Good morning, Ben, GD, Darge & the "new guys"......troll too."

Hmm ... so if we don't agree with Loner you are a troll. Reminds why I normally avoid this sort of thing.

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 9:32

They were able to agree on one thing though. Both the House and the Senate shot down Obama's ridiculous budget with almost complete bipartisan unanimity. lol

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 9:36

I'm sure he was referring to budlight or yogi, wiseguy. Loner is well known for listening to opposing points of view before he dismisses them. Those posters have a history of banging the drum about meaningless tangents; so thus the troll reference. (no offense budlight and yogi -- life's to short).

By: gdiafante on 6/18/12 at 9:41

Yeah, right Ben...lol

You're yogi. Congrats.

By: slacker on 6/18/12 at 9:49

Gentleman.. gentleman.. ''can't we all just get alone?''

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 9:51

I guess I don't understand your logic gd. It would seem the facts contradict your position in the matter. You speak of a 'do nothing' congress when the House is passing all kinds of legislation that Reid won't bring up to a vote in the Senate. You seem to extrapolate the 'do nothing' to cover the all of the recession while Congress was in complete control of the president's party from 2007 - 2010 and they did much during that time... not the least of which was giving President Obama everything he asked for.

You are just recycling White-House talking points rather than giving any critical analysis to the matter.

"Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think that you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong."

By: gdiafante on 6/18/12 at 10:05

And you're recycling GOP talking points...so STFU.

By: parnell3rd on 6/18/12 at 10:07

With the world in turmoil the City Paper gives another 15 minutes of fame to a man in 1992 high on PCP fighting with police. Yes Rodney King took got his butt kicked but, the news never showed the complete video of how he attacked the police first. A person high on pcp is a wild person. Granted, all of you bleeding heart liberals are going to say the Police beat him excessively and that is true. What about how all of those savages who murdered 55 people in the riots that followed and the damage to the city?

And for other news the liberal democratic party just recieved 800,000 new voters with the amnesty from the King of the USA Barrack Husseine Obama, aka Barry Sorento.

American is not ruled by a two party system. America is ruled by the Ivy League.

By: BenDover on 6/18/12 at 10:07

These are my own talking points based on observations, gd. I don't know of anyone else who is making them.

By: wiseguy1 on 6/18/12 at 10:10

Slacker ... can you define "get alone"?

By: slacker on 6/18/12 at 10:19

wiseguy.. not exactly. I think its related to a lack of buoyancy, after smoking a lot of weed.

By: yogiman on 6/18/12 at 10:20

If you haven't noticed, wiseguy1, Loner is the leading exploiter on this site. When Loner takes a holiday and isn't making his comments, it's very quiet here. Many days there's only one page the whole day before they all go home from work.