Up for Debate: Romney in Israel

Monday, July 30, 2012 at 11:08pm

What do you think about Mitt Romney's recent statements regarding Israel that angered Palestinian leaders?

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247 Comments on this post:

By: govskeptic on 7/31/12 at 8:55

Not one word in support of Israel would have been acceptable to the
Palestinians, so their criticism should come as no surprise since they
support the President. The London comment was a huge to-do about
nothing really. Just enough to permit the press to scream "gaff" by
this candidate and spend 4 days talking about. 98 more days left
to talk about everything but the sorry financial condition of the country
and even worse condition for millions of families without a job and
dwindling resources!

By: bfra on 7/31/12 at 8:56

Raspy - Green yes! But with open bowles, you mentioned, people usually are that color.

By: BenDover on 7/31/12 at 8:57

They took the one time TARP expenditure and made it the new baseline for spending. Combine the fact that TARP has been largely repaid and we're winding down operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and it really makes the spending picture look horrible... horrible to anyone who's willing to look at it, that is.

Any attempts to reign it in are met with the 'obstructionists' charge. Having the media largely in your back pocket is very helpful in cases like this. It keeps the party faithful from questioning little things like having about $5,000,000,000,000 more debt than we should right now.

By: gdiafante on 7/31/12 at 8:59

Actually, gov, the press didn't overhype the London gaffe...people in London actually took exception to it, which is what they reported.

Waaaaa...blame the media....waaaaa...blame the media....

God, this gets as old as yogi's whining about the birther crap...

By: gdiafante on 7/31/12 at 9:05

The Bush tax cuts make the spending look horrible...end that across the board, reduce defense spending and then see where we're at.

Note: It's better than where we are now.

By: Ummm... on 7/31/12 at 9:08

Why won't Romney release his tax returns, Little Bennie? What house of cards defense has Faux News given you for that?

By: BenDover on 7/31/12 at 9:11

Oh... his almost 5 trillion dollars in debt over the trend-line just works out to about $16,000 for every man woman and child in the country gd.

Move along... move along... nothing to see here.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/12 at 9:12

By: parnell3rd on 7/30/12 at 4:27
London Olympics sucks! They have a fake white water river for kayaking! What a joke! Whoa, we can't use a real river ith rocks, some one might get hurt!
Suck's just like racist democrat liberals!

This poor excuse of a troll, knows nothing. All white water rapids in the Olympics are artificially made, including the American Olympic. parnell must live in the basement of buds bridge.

By: BenDover on 7/31/12 at 9:13

Economist agree that the bush tax cuts were necessary to the recovery... even Obama continued them for that reason. How can they be the reason for the deficits if the economy would have collapsed without them?

By: Ummm... on 7/31/12 at 9:13

Why won't Romney release his tax returns, Little Bennie?

By: BenDover on 7/31/12 at 9:15

Ummm... I care much less about how Romney spent the millions he earned than I do about how Obama spends the Trillions that we earned. That's how reasonable people undistracted by political spin think.

By: Ummm... on 7/31/12 at 9:16

Why won't Romney release his tax returns, Little Bennie?

(Still waiting for an answer....crickets...)

By: BenDover on 7/31/12 at 9:18

I don't know why Ummm. Why did Obama wait 3 years to release his Birth Certificate?

By: Ummm... on 7/31/12 at 9:18

C'mon, Little Bennie, let's hear your "thoughtful and cogent" reason why Romney would hide his tax returns...

By: gdiafante on 7/31/12 at 9:19

Economists are split, as they always are...and the tax cuts cost trillions, and apparently have had minimal effect (about a decade and the economy is still barely moving). Doing the same thing over and over and hoping for different results is the definition of insanity.

The economy would have crashed regardless of defense spending as well but it's clearly a problem. That argument holds no weight.

Practically none of the reasons for the crash have been effectively dealt with, which is quite likely ensuring a double-dip. And while the politicians bitch and whine about who to blame, the ship is headed straight for another iceberg.

Oh, and it's the media's fault...

By: Ummm... on 7/31/12 at 9:19

Good God folks- Little Bennie's so stumped for an answer, he's jumping on the birther train! Move over, Yogi...

By: BenDover on 7/31/12 at 9:20

I responded, ummm. I don't know why. Why won't Obama release his college records?

By: bfra on 7/31/12 at 9:24

Ben - I doubt college records would be of no damage, where not paying one's fair share of taxes would be. Especially since Romney is wanting the highest office in the US.

By: Ummm... on 7/31/12 at 9:24

I think it was Darth Vader back-from-the-dead Cheney who famously said, "deficits don't matter." Of course, that only applies when you're launching an unjustified war like the one they chose to fight in Iraq. It obviously doesn't apply when you're trying to save American jobs or the American economy (by Little Bennie's logic).

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/12 at 9:24

By: yogiman on 7/30/12 at 11:49
Let me give you another little ignorant thought, Ummm. I say there's basically no difference in the two major parties. Many in the Republican party keep mentioning Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal as VP with Romney.

Translation; these guys are darkies. They can’t be Americans born.

By: Ummm... on 7/31/12 at 9:30

Bennie must think the head of the Harvard Law Review had a worse academic record than W did. (Now don't laugh everybody...)

By: BenDover on 7/31/12 at 9:31

Well gd... the subprime debacle put us on a shaky foundation but I think Obama was the trigger to the collapse because he was running around promising to double the capital gains taxes out of 'fairness', to bankrupt the coal industry, and to impose a carbon tax on everything that moved. This was the genesis of the collapse.

I think them taking the TARP money that was used to prevent a run on the banks, blowing the repayments and then using the precedent to justify a new baseline of government spending $1,000,000,000,000 a year over what it was has hindered our recovery because it spooks the market.

I think employment is hindered by the uncertainty about what kinds of regulations are going to come out of the NLRB, the EPA, Health and Human Services and any number of other heavy-handed agencies to the extent that employers will continue to have little idea what the long term cost of an employee will be.

And now taxes and class warfare are the grist of the political mill again. It's no wonder the minority of people with something to lose in this game of populist vote-buying with other people's money are continuing their hibernation to see how it all shakes out.
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By: bfra on 7/31/12 at 9:35

Ben thinks tarp money was the only down fall of the economy! Disregarding the Bush/Chaney fiasco, which is still being felt. Their failures are too many to list.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/12 at 9:37

Rasputin goes on a rampage and thinks I get things for free. Rasputin, I never said that you were insane, just the people that agree with you are insane.

Now, I own my own business; my house was paid off more than 20yrs and if something free comes up, I do take advantage of it. I am not foolish not to do so. I hope that you are not a fool.

BTW Rasputin’s true colors are brown; bull Yogi, brown.

By: Mike Burch on 7/31/12 at 9:37

Romney was sitting next to Sheldon Adelson in Israel. Adelson is the billionaire sugar daddy who tried to buy the nomination for Gingrich, who is famous for taking bribes. Adelson wants the US to move the US embassy to Jerusalem, which would be a sign to the world that the US supports Israel annexing the West Bank, leaving the Palestinians no hope of an independent state. That would force them to remain serfs or leave, two terrible choices. So moving the embassy would probably trigger more acts of terrorism like 911 and more unwinnable wars.

Romney and Gingrich both support confirming that Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel, by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. No other nation has been stupid enough to do that, because it could start World War III.

But Jewish hardliners like Netanyahu and Adelson, and the US neocons who wanted the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq seem to actually want more wars.

It seems Gingrich and Romney have sold out the American public, which will have to send American children to fight and die in the wars, while shouldering even more war debt.

By: Rasputin72 on 7/31/12 at 9:37

I noticed that several villagers are asking for more Romney tax returns? Obviously I cannot speak for Mitt Romney. However I suggest to you villagers that the reason he does not want to release his tax returns is because he refuses to apologize for being very wealthy. For reason that are unknown to all but you villagers ( Ummm, Gdiafante,Bfra,,Captain Nemo,Dargent7) and perhaps a couple of others wealth seems to be a sinful thing for you guys.

How many of you are dependent upon other peoples wealth and their taxation to provide you with the subsistence that you have?

By: Ummm... on 7/31/12 at 9:39

So Bennie, the answer to our budget problem is to give the wealthy (those "job creators" who've been doing such a bang-up job of it) a bigger tax break, shred the safety net by cutting assistance for the poor and elderly, and turn Medicare into a voucher program that won't require grandma to go before a "death panel," it will only require her to die- because she won't be able to afford the healthcare she got under medicare with only a "voucher" to pay for it, right? Yeah buddy, that's a great plan, selling like hotcakes to American voters, isn't it?

By: gdiafante on 7/31/12 at 9:40

Yawn...

Ben, like with yogi, can't seem to understand simple ideas. When the collapse happened, Obama was not President...he was not even leading in the polls...if people were fearing his rhetoric, all they had to do was vote for the other guy.

The subprime fiasco tumbled global markets which have yet to recover. For instance, Spain is reported to have 1.6 million empty homes. It seems rather convenient (not to mention simplistic and purely partisan) to blame something that took down most countries in the world as the result of a U.S. presidential candidate.

It also seems to completely ignore about 30 or 40 years of very bad policies (not just here in the U.S.)

But, hey, like Lennon said, whatever gets you through the night...is alright.

By: Ummm... on 7/31/12 at 9:44

If you're bs reasoning were true, Rasputin, Romney wouldn't have released the little bit he has (which showed he paid less than 15%- less than I did on my meager income) because that alone shows him to be a 1%er. Nope, your bs won't wash- he's hiding something that EVERYBODY wouldn't like- even you Teapublicans. Hell, the National Review has called for the release of the returns. Quit stonewalling and fess up, Romney.

By: gdiafante on 7/31/12 at 9:45

Now Ummm...don't you know that taking away programs that help the needy in order to funnel money to the fortunate is not wealth redistribution...

And every person that need assistance is obviously lazy, entitlement-seeking degenerates who are probably best friends with Muslims and are secretly enacting a conspiracy to topple the U.S. government and institute Sharia law via the re-election of Kenyan Communist Muslim world leader Obama...

Did I forget any conspiracies...yogi? Ben?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/12 at 9:46

By: BenDover on 7/31/12 at 9:18
I don't know why Ummm. Why did Obama wait 3 years to release his Birth Certificate?

What other President has had to show their birth certificate?

By: bfra on 7/31/12 at 9:48

How many of you are dependent upon other peoples wealth and their taxation to provide you with the subsistence that you have?
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I would safely guess that the ones you mentioned, plus some others are probably in a better financial area than a big-mouth blow, like Raspy. People with wealth, certainly do not post it on a public forum of a newspaper. Take it from me, I am receiving nothing from you or expect anything. Neither will my children or their children, etc.

By: Rasputin72 on 7/31/12 at 9:50

Gdiafante........Gee, your 9:40 seems out of character for you but certainly there has been a lot of bad policies by our government and Presidents both democrat and republican since 1946.

I certainly do not intend to vote for Barack Hussein Obama but I also do not hold him responsible for the condition of the United States during his term in office. I hold him responsible for class warfare which if continued will bring this country to its knees perhaps more quickly than our financial demise.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/12 at 9:55

By: Rasputin72 on 7/31/12 at 9:37
I noticed that several Villergers are asking for more Romney tax returns? Obviously I cannot speak for Mitt Romney. However I suggest to you Villagers that the reason he does not want to release his tax returns is because he refuses to apologize for being very wealthy.

This want to be Over Lord gets all out of shape when he thinks I think that he is insane, yet he thinks nothing of belittling others on this board. Perhaps he is insane after all.

What do you say…Rasputin?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/12 at 9:58

Ummm, I think Rasputin is full of (the new four letter word is Yogi) Bull Yogi

By: bfra on 7/31/12 at 9:59

Nemo - I doubt he has ever even seen the back part of a limo, except to maybe clean it.

By: BenDover on 7/31/12 at 9:59

I did not say he caused the collapse gd. I said he was the trigger... the world could no longer could tread water with the additional weight of a leftist U.S. president.

And Obama, first in promise... then in practice... and further in promise again has hindered our recovery by maintaining uncertainty and with heavy-handed regulatory action on energy and the private sector in general.

If we'd let the TARP repayments offset the '09 stimulus and had maintained status quo on everything else we would not be suffering the weakest recovery since WWII.

Instead Obama used the mantra, "never waste a good crisis" to vastly expand government machinations into more of his Harvard teacher lounge dream society... and it's just another example of how the central planners always get it wrong.

In short... weak recovery... and $4,000,000,000,000+ in unnecessary federal debt. That's Obama's legacy.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/12 at 10:02

Rasputin holds Obama to blame for class warfare, yet he is so willing to call others such belittling names as villagers or low class. Kind of Hypocritical aren’t you Rasputin.

By: yogiman on 7/31/12 at 10:03

Ummm,

It's funny, you're constantly wanting to see Romney's papers but you don't constantly rant for Barry to show his papers.

Aren't you aren't interested in Barry showing his papers papers.

By: Ummm... on 7/31/12 at 10:04

People who question why policies that allow only the rich to get richer while the poor get poorer aren't changed; those who believe in equality of opportunity are labeled as engaging in "class warfare."
I bet civil rights protesters in the 50's and 60's were called "troublemakers" by Rasputin.

By: bfra on 7/31/12 at 10:05

Ben the super CPA? He could have solved all the World's problems with TARP money.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/12 at 10:05

bfra I think Rasputin, is just another plastic knife, that wants to be Excalibur.

By: bfra on 7/31/12 at 10:06

Nemo - He missed the boat!

By: Ummm... on 7/31/12 at 10:09

Again, Little Bennie, Cheney said, "deficits don't matter." Surely you don't disagree with a great American like him, do you? I mean, even if Obama isn't spending a TRILLION dollars on an unjustified war of choice like they did, Cheney is still infallible, right?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/31/12 at 10:14

Rasputin is in it’s Royal Tub, playing with it’s Rubber Ducky.

By: gdiafante on 7/31/12 at 10:15

Oh good lord, Ben. So Obama using a crisis to expand government is bad, Bush using a crisis to expand government good. Has there ever been a greater hypocrit?

Other than the health care bill, what exactly is the difference between Bush and Obama?

And, austerity = stupidity.

By: BenDover on 7/31/12 at 10:15

I certainly disagree with how Cheney's doctrine of the Unitary Executive has played out, ummm.

By: Rasputin72 on 7/31/12 at 10:18

Dear Villagers.......We are teh disciples of class warfare sure as hell.

I would not wish to spend 15 minutes with you fellows if politics and social issues were to be brought up. I am sure you fellows feel the same way.

By: Rasputin72 on 7/31/12 at 10:18

Dear Villagers.......We are teh disciples of class warfare sure as hell.

I would not wish to spend 15 minutes with you fellows if politics and social issues were to be brought up. I am sure you fellows feel the same way.

By: Mike Burch on 7/31/12 at 10:19

Ummm,

I think you're probably right. It seems Romney paid little or no taxes for a decade or longer, ending in 2009. He did this by having shell corporations in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands, which are hardly haven of banking safety. The money would go into the shell corporations to make it "tax free" and then it would quickly be moved someplace safer, like his Swiss bank account.

Starting in 2009, when Romney realized that he would have to disclose his tax returns, Romney started paying taxes. But he can't release any of his other returns because they will reveal that one of the richest men in the US evaded taxes, while accusing poor people of wanting "free stuff."

Mike