Up for Debate: Romney's lack of concern

Wednesday, February 1, 2012 at 11:43pm

What do you make of Mitt Romney's comment that he wasn't "concerned about the very poor" because there is a safety net for them? Does it show a multimillionaire out of touch, or has the comment been blown out of proportion? How bad might it hurt him?


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72 Comments on this post:

By: Rasputin72 on 2/2/12 at 1:14

I had a Muslim who is married to a African/American tell me that income for everyone should be set at no more than 25 times the minimum wage.

I relayed this information on to the proper Obama connections as well as to Maxine Waters.

By: Rasputin72 on 2/2/12 at 1:16

I had a Muslim who is married to an African/American tell me that the maximum income for all Americans should be no more than 25 times the minimum wage.

I passed this suggestion on to the proper Obama people as well as Maxine Waters

By: brrrrk on 2/2/12 at 2:12

Loner said

"If there was no minimum wage, no safety net, no unions and no regulation of human exploitation, then a situation would exist in which a growing number of people would be desperate enough to work for slave wages....this is the present situation in much of the developing world...Ben Dover would have us emulate that failed model."

I'm still waiting for Ben to tell me where that shining example of Libertarianism is in the world. C'mon Ben, just give me one example of a successful country with a thriving middle class that has truly adopted the economics of Libertarianism.

Like every other time I've asked I'm sure I'll just get crickets.

By: Loner on 2/2/12 at 2:14


By: BenDover on 2/2/12 at 2:18

Loner, maybe 'tell them' was a poor choice of words. Do you prefer 'prohibit them' from working?

Your lurch-to-absurdity straw-man misrepresents my points about the laws of common sense economics we are all ruled by and doesn't undo the points I've made.

Every one of the idealist policies you recommend are inflationary and most restrictive and most damaging to the people liberals purport to help.

I'll get paid to continue to automate those jobs out of existence. American products will continue to be inflated out of the world market increasing our trade deficits. Rural jobs where low cost of living afforded the communities the resource of inexpensive labor are now being done in Mexico and China.

I repeat, the cure is the cause. An untimely 40% increase in the minimum wage surely hasn't helped the situation regardless of how you try to demagogue away my diagnosis.

By: BenDover on 2/2/12 at 2:19

America is the closest thing that's ever been tried Brrrrk and we made a pretty good run of it.

By: brrrrk on 2/2/12 at 2:22


The other thing I've often noticed is that those who complain about minimum wages being high are generally people who don't have to live on minimum wages. I'd love nothing more than to see someone like Ben put his "money where there mouth is" (so to speak) and live on minimum wages for a few months.

By: yogiman on 2/2/12 at 2:23


Papa 'Guvmunt' has assumed parenthood over the common citizens of the USA. They have taken over the assumption they have adopted us and need to guide us into our rightful ways they think is best for all mankind. They set the rules (called laws) and we damn well better go by them.

And like other parents, they know more then their children(we the citizens) on any subject.

By: DustyU on 2/2/12 at 2:26

howdy ya'll
back for a bit :)
What bothers me most about Romney is his claim to be a christian & the right wing megachurch denizens that cosign his garbage in direct contridiction of the commandments about his putrid ravings. The only true measure of a person's walk with God his the compassion he has towards those less fortunate & he has none. I see certain zealots are still blaming the current president for the bush recession :(
I'm a reagan republican unlike those who try to claim his mantle while ignoring his admonition to reason with those that disagree with you rather than attack them - make them a friend rather than the current demonization mantra

By: brrrrk on 2/2/12 at 2:28

BenDover said

"America is the closest thing that's ever been tried Brrrrk and we made a pretty good run of it."

Back it up, give one example of a founding father that espoused anything close to Libertarianism.... it was WE THE PEOPLE, not I THE PERSON.

By: DustyU on 2/2/12 at 2:33

howdy brrrk

By: brrrrk on 2/2/12 at 2:39

DustyU said

"howdy brrrk"

Yo Dusty, how's it hangin'?

By: DustyU on 2/2/12 at 2:44

hangin in barely :)
still alive and kicking - pretty well healed up from my heart surgery
is capt nemo still around?

By: brrrrk on 2/2/12 at 2:47

Yep, Nemo's still around. We just haven't seen him today.

By: DustyU on 2/2/12 at 3:00

i was worried about the old fart kicking off on me :D

By: DustyU on 2/2/12 at 3:08


By: brrrrk on 2/2/12 at 3:12

Looks like ALEC (the American Legislative Exchange Council ) has been caught with their fingerprints all over a bill..... proof positive that it's Corporate America that's writing our bills and not our legislators.


By: DustyU on 2/2/12 at 3:29

and this is a surprise?

By: yogiman on 2/2/12 at 4:26

So what else is new? They've been buying congress out for decades after they quit representing the people.

By: yogiman on 2/2/12 at 4:39

I just read where we owe the Federal Reserve & IntraGovernmental Holdings more that we now owe China. 6.328 trillion bucks (however many zeroes that is) and only owe China 1.132 trillion.

And I thought we was in debt to China.

I haven't been able to figure it out. I know I'm no federal politician, but why in the heck are we giving nations a welfare check, supporting them militarily, and letting them invest that money we gave them back in to us?

That means: You give me money, I'll invest it back into you, and you must pay me interest on it.

Now, if I can claim I'm still an Indian and get one of those [foreign aid] 'welfare' checks, I've got it made.

By: BenDover on 2/2/12 at 5:01

You know, brrrk you throw that out there all the time like I'm some kind of absolutist who would throw all of society away in favor of individual anarchy; but I've never said that. Loner usually does it more flamboyantly but your point is no less the straw-man than his is.

I've not called to throw out all government over-sight, I've simply made some points about what the down-side to a lot of these things are.

Name that utopian libertarian society? As I noted the US as it was founded is the closest thing we've tried yet and it has had a fantastic run expanding the well being of society far beyond what it would be without US leadership. Those that wish to nudge us more to the Western European model away from founding principles hold a far less defensible position than I do for encouraging a trend toward economic conservatism and a reduction in government power over the people and our institutions.

By: spooky24 on 2/3/12 at 10:32

Unless Obama can get the electoral college thrown out and run on popular vote alone he has no chance. I imagine they will sink to that this summer then, of course, play the race card in desperation.