Up for Debate: Seau's family sues NFL

Friday, January 25, 2013 at 1:55am

The family of the late Junior Seau is suing the National Football League claiming his career involving hits to the head led indirectly to his suicide. Do you think there's a solid basis for such a claim? Do you believe the NFL should be sued?

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By: yogiman on 1/25/13 at 5:49

Junior Seau played football by choice and was well paid for it. He worked hard to be known as the best in his position. He used his helmet in his tackles as his way of choice.

His death was suicide by choice, the helmet didn't force him to commit it. If his family is given money for his death by suicide, then the families of every one who commits suicide can sue a company for their death and many deaths can be planned for the money.

By: Ask01 on 1/25/13 at 6:12

When I was playing football, suspension helmets were the standard, although more modern systems were beginning to show up to improve protection.

The very fact helmets were first introduced advancing from simple, form fitting, leather affairs to today's, high tech, highly engineered protective devices indicates people were aware of the dangers inherent in having your head played like a bass drum.

NFL management, oaches, owners, and others I, certain knew of the dangers, as they allowed the advances in player protection to be introduced to protect their stock.

Players also, had to be aware, to some extent anyway, of the potential hazards of their chosen sport, but they voluntarily continued to play.

I liken this situation to that of the smoker who knows his habit could kill him, the alcoholic who knows his liver could be rotting, or anyone who works with hazardous materials and doesn't take proper precautions.

I have no expertise in legal issues, however, from my perspective, the NFL could have some liability as they possibly did not take a more proactive role in requiring and advancing player protection.

This will be interesting, regardless how the looming media and legal circus plays out.

By: gdiafante on 1/25/13 at 6:26

The issue is, yogi, that the NFL knew or ignored the concussion issue, and fostered an environment that encouraged players to downplay or lie about their condition in order to play.

There's no doubt that Seau had brain damage and it was caused by football. So, like with anything else, the question is, did the NFL know about concussions and when did they know it. Did they knowingly put players at risk?

Seau isn't the only one in the lawsuit, which has been growing for years. Everything the NFL is doing regarding concussions is because of these lawsuits, not because they suddenly had an epiphany about protecting players. It's a serious issue.

By: Rasputin72 on 1/25/13 at 7:32

The issue is that there are perhaps 1000 frivolous lawsuits filed every day by people who do not have any money and would like to have some.

Based on the November elections 51.6% of Americans fall into this category.

By: yogiman on 1/25/13 at 7:49

It's a matter of employees and employers, gdiafante. The employers, of course, want to make as much money as they can through their investment in the sport field, so they want the best athletes they can buy. And the employees, of course, want to make as much money as they can through their employment in the sport field. And how many have you ever heard of that quit their "job" as an athlete because of a danger?

After all, how many boxers have you heard of that had their brain knocked around in their skull to the point of craziness? Who should they sue, the guys that beat the hell out of them or the club they was working for?

I think the dangers are being brought out more today than ever before in all sports.

By: pepawjoe on 1/25/13 at 8:06

Like So-ooo many other Professional Atheletes, over paid to the Max extremes, enhancement procedures are used by these "MONEY GRABBER's" for His/Her own selfish GREED.
Jr Seau knew these RISKS from the Beginning, YET, his decision to seek MORE, and More was "HIS OWN ". I regret his SELFISHINESS to take His own life, but that decision was not the Football Organization's decision.
"SUE, More Money, SUE, MORE, MORe, MOre, More, more". Seau family; "GROW-UP"!

By: budlight on 1/25/13 at 8:16

I read an article that said his blood alcohol was above the legal limit the day he did this heinous act. He was stopped or questioned by a cop or security person before he did it and they let him sleep it off. He is responsible for his death. The only people who should sue are the family of the woman he killed - his wife or girlfriend - for wrongful death. His family has lost their cash cow and they want revenge. They do not have a right to sue. He was an adult. He made a decision to play football and if he didn't know the dangers, he was blind, deaf and dumb because the world media has been discussing it for a few years.

And it is a crime to kill others and a sin. He did both. So no compensation for his family. They should have taught him better.

By: Loner on 1/25/13 at 8:56

Boxing once was a very popular spectator sport in the US...then we saw the effects of multiple blows to the head over time....enthusiasm for boxing waned rather quickly, once the facts were clear and understood.

I predict that football will eventually suffer the same fate as boxing....like dog-fighting, cock-fighting, bull-baiting, bear-baiting and other violent blood sports that folks love to gamble on, football will eventually be recognized for what it is: a glorification of debilitating violence....and little more than that.

The sea-change will come...but not yet....it will take several incidences like this before most people get the message...I give the NFL another 20 years at most....but eventually, they will pull the plug on "concussion-ball".

But do not despair...this is a natural consequence of "civilization"....and we all want to see the species advance....right?

By: gdiafante on 1/25/13 at 8:56

Actually, he had brain damage and that could have been a contributing factor to his suicide, hence the lawsuit.

Bud, I think you have brain damage too...Junior Seau didn't kill anyone but himself. You're thinking of the player from Kansas City, Javon Belcher. Get your facts straight, twit.

By: gdiafante on 1/25/13 at 8:57

It's already happening, Loner. Parents are pulling their kids from football at a pretty good clip. I'm not sure that the NFL will go the same way as boxing, but this is definitely a black eye on the sport.

By: Loner on 1/25/13 at 8:59

Bud, we are talking about Junior Seau, not Jovan Belcher...as usual, you are confused?

By: Loner on 1/25/13 at 9:01

I did not see your 8:56 post, Gd, before posting my 8:59 post....as usual, Bud has her facts wrong....this is no surprise.

By: Loner on 1/25/13 at 9:16

The NFL will continue to exist, so long as people are willing to pay money to advertise their goods & services during the televised games and so long as fans pack the stadiums.

But the jig is up...so to speak...there is a price to pay for all those "hits".... pro-football is suddenly endangered...if football's popularity decreases, and revenues decrease over time, so will player and coaching staff salaries.

A tipping point will come, when second and third rate players will accept the reduced pay and status, but great athletes will shun the sport....then, things will slide more quickly, as the game's integrity is destroyed and the fans and advertisers go elsewhere.

If the auto makers, or the beer makers, for example, quit advertising on NFL games, for reasons of conscience, the air would come out of the ball quickly....maybe 20 more years of the NFL is overly optimistic?

Colleges should concentrate on educating young brains, not concussing them on the gridiron...many schools are realizing this....as the pool of quality college players dries up over time, the quality of play in the NFL will be negatively impacted.....this must also be factored in.

By: Loner on 1/25/13 at 9:22

Question: Did OJ Simpson suffer brain damage too? Maybe, he should be in a mental hospital, not in a prison? If he has any legal aid available to him, he ought to get himself scanned and tested...same for all the now-incarcerated ex-NFL stars....this has opened up a can of worms, from various legal, ethical, financial and medical standpoints....this issue is not going away anytime soon....this is only going to become a bigger deal, down the road.

By: Loner on 1/25/13 at 9:28

Brain-damaged ex-NFL players should be able to collect Disability Payments from their former employers? Or should they get SS Disabilty Payments? Maybe both?

If the federal government starts paying disability benefits to ex-jocks, they will have cause to enter the debate?

Could football someday be outlawed in the US, for public health reasons?

By: slacker on 1/25/13 at 9:36

If Seau's family collects on this, I'll be suing the N.F.L. for my gambling debts.
Might include the wear and tear on my Laz- E- Boy.. and excessive beer consumption.
I mean its not my fault.. I was never warned. Damn sneaky Roger Goodell.

By: bfra on 1/25/13 at 9:41

slacker - Sounds like you have a valid point! LOL

By: slacker on 1/25/13 at 9:41

Do not under any circumstances, strike yourself in the head with this instrument.
-Acme Hammer Co.

By: slacker on 1/25/13 at 9:45

Contact sports can cause physical damage.
-Forrest Gump

By: Loner on 1/25/13 at 10:19

Slack! Brilliant! A class action on behalf of the damaged fans...I want my 39 cents...my share of the final settlement pie. I burned out my anal-sphincter, by eating super-hot Buffalo wings, while watching the Buffalo Bills?

By: budlight on 1/25/13 at 10:33

By: Loner on 1/25/13 at 9:22
Question: Did OJ Simpson suffer brain damage too? Maybe, he should be in a mental hospital, not in a prison? If he has any legal aid available to him, he ought to get himself scanned and tested...same for all the now-incarcerated ex-NFL stars....this has opened up a can of worms, from various legal, ethical, financial and medical standpoints....this issue is not going away anytime soon....this is only going to become a bigger deal, down the road.

Loner, google - Insane mother who drowned baby freed from prison today.

She was declared not guilty by reason of insanity for drowning her child. She went into a corrections center - not the one for mentally ill inmates -- but a regular corrections center. She was freed after 3 years because 2 psychiatrists said she had been cured of her mental illness. Someone is screwed up!
So if the standard applied to her is, or should be the norm, then OJ would have been out of jail in 3 years if he pleased Guilty by Reason of Insanity.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/25/13 at 10:37

Loner

As a young girl and trying to fit in with other children, the troll let the boys place a football on her face. The result was brain damage from repeatedly being kick in the head, thus why bud is so easily confused.

By: budlight on 1/25/13 at 10:37

y: gdiafante on 1/25/13 at 8:56
Actually, he had brain damage and that could have been a contributing factor to his suicide, hence the lawsuit.

Bud, I think you have brain damage too...Junior Seau didn't kill anyone but himself. You're thinking of the player from Kansas City, Javon Belcher. Get your facts straight, twit.

I did make a mistake. I know you, G, are PERFECT and have never made one. Thanks for pointing out the error.

If Seau's family sues, then Belcher's will also sue. My opinion still stands. The football players know the risks. Just like soldier who are sent into combat know the risks. So when soldiers are killed, do their families get to sue? NO. Neither should a VOLUNTEER IN THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE! (Or their family).

Before these players get their first hundreds of thousands of dollars, they and their family should have to sign a waiver stating they are aware of the inherent risks in the game, especially the part about getting hit -- all over -- not just in the head. It's a rough sport, no doubt. If you don't understand that you can get hurt or killed, maybe you should just work at a Walmart. (where you can get shot)

By: Captain Nemo on 1/25/13 at 10:43

In a fit of rage, budlight threatens gdia to meet her in the parking lot at Wal-Mart.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/25/13 at 10:52

The people of no choice movement have nerve shown any proof of when a human being becomes a human being. In the early stages of life, we are closer to a frog.

By: slacker on 1/25/13 at 11:25

Loner, I feel your anal pain. Bill's fans should be compensated for those four Superbowl losses, Music City Miracle, Bud Adams flipping off poor Ralph Wilson.

Titan fans deserve their fate, they voted to provide Bud a stadium, and numerous other perks. Subsidizing Sports Teams Sucks!

By: Loner on 1/25/13 at 12:33

Amen, brother Slacker....bread & circus governance sucks.

By: dargent7 on 1/25/13 at 1:53

This lawsuit, like 98% of those before it, is "frivilous".
Seau made millions as a Charger.
As someone who lived in San Diego, including Oceanside, 2 blocks from Seau's, where he had his $3.5 million beach front mansion, he owned several restaurants as well as a clothing line, "Say Owe".
(Get it yogi?)
How about Mike Ditka suing when his restaurants fail?
Or, Joe Montana's "Juice" vitamin drink?
Or, Joe Namath for his moth balled Bachelores III?
All NFL players take major hits to the skull.
Sue the helmet makers. Sue Nike. Sue Reebok.
Jesus. Sue somebody.

By: slacker on 1/25/13 at 2:02

''My name is Sue..how do you do...''
-Man in black

By: dargent7 on 1/25/13 at 4:16

"Meet Click, Clack, and Cluck...."
Three Stooges.

By: Ask01 on 1/25/13 at 6:12

I also seriously doubt football will ever go away. We could, however, conceivably see changes at the below college level to make the game less dangerous for young athletes.

Such a move could set in motion events resulting in one of Loner's scenarios.

Of course, the unintended consequence could be numerous players suing their college for not providing an adequate education while using them to play sports and generate revenue.

The only region where the sport might survive and even thrive might be the deep south. Fathers, punch drunk from their own glory years playing high school football, (their only 'glory years, probably) will continue to guide their sons to the sport as a way to 'make a man of him.' Concern for the welfare of the offspring will take a backseat to the father's ability to live vivariously through the child.

As far as Seau and family are concerned, most people know when there is a problem with their body. Pain is a wonderful way to, not only know you aren't dead, but that there is damage somewhere which needs attention. When family members recognize changes in personality, that is a clue the belfrey might need to be cleaned and the bells tuned.

After a career using your head as a battering ram, regular comprehensive testing and evaluation of the brain might be a good idea, don't you think? All manner of testing is available to check for indications of brain damage, and should be used since, as I understand, symptoms of brain damage and impaired reasoning may not always be recognizable by lay persons.

I figure the fault lies with bothe Seau himself and the NFL hierarchy which used him to line their pockets.

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 7:50

Young men go into sports without thinking they can be harmed. And they are interested in it for the money they will earn while having so much fun because they're just "playing".

Many learn the differences the hard way. Shouldn't their parents advise them?

I "stupidly" got into boxing as a boy and fought in club bouts as a teenager. My mother made me promise her I wouldn't fight any more when I joined the Navy. I was in 3 bouts in "boot camp" because as a teenager in the Navy I didn't think I could tell my Chief no but I had no more bouts after Boot Camp.

By: bfra on 1/26/13 at 9:34

Judging by yogi's lack of truthfulness on every subject, you cannot believe anything he puts on this board. He is a hibitual LIAR!

By: .45carry on 1/26/13 at 9:44

Some colleges are moving towards having no-contact practices. As a former HS and college football player, I've seen many more head injuries occur during the week than I did on any Friday night or Saturday afternoon.

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 11:10

bfra,

I'm afraid my "lies" to you are going to make you to be the idiot you're proving yourself to be in the not too distant future.

By: bfra on 1/26/13 at 11:20

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 11:10

bfra,

I'm afraid my "lies" to you are going to make you to be the idiot you're proving yourself to be in the not too distant future.
=======================================================

Same lie you have been posting, starting on 5 yrs. now!

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 1:23

I hate to mention this "lie" to you, bfra..., but it isn't a lie stating you you're an idiot for supporting someone so vividly that refuses to identify themselves.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/26/13 at 2:38

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 11:10
bfra,
I'm afraid my "lies" to you are going to make you to be the idiot you're proving yourself to be in the not too distant future.

The Old Screwball has let out that he is a lair and an idiot, with the above post.

This ripened heap of manure in his confusion has confessed to his lies and his fantasies. His revulsion to anything not of his hue has him spouting a downpours a vehemence and completely falsehoods of wicked rage.

By: bfra on 1/26/13 at 2:47

Nemo - He has never posted a verified FACT in the 4+ yrs. he has been posting his LIES. Raspy supports him, because neither of them have the brains, God gave a Billy Goat.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/26/13 at 3:03

He just challenged Ask01 and me to an IQ test. I have excepted and still waiting for his reply.

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 3:08

I hate to tell you this, bfra, but God gave us Billy Goats better brains than he did you Jackasses.

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 3:13

dumba$$, you couldn't even pass a spelling test, let alone a test of intelligence.

Want to try one? Check on google or bing and take a test.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/26/13 at 3:15

Another great come back from the master dim wit coward.

I have excepted your challange yogi and I am waiting form your reply.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/26/13 at 3:20

You are a liar and a coward yogi.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/26/13 at 3:33

I took the test yogi and a made a 100.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/26/13 at 5:49

That is true yogi. You are a great example.

By: yogiman on 1/26/13 at 7:30

I feel so humiliated, dumba$$, to get beat by an idiot as ignorant as you.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/26/13 at 9:53

That makes you the dumbest dumb ass