Up for Debate: Spy vs. spy

Wednesday, May 9, 2012 at 1:23am

What do you make of The New York Times report that states a suspected suicide bomber in plot to blow up U.S. plane was actually a double agent?

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By: gdiafante on 5/9/12 at 3:01

What's the problem, Ben? As far as nature goes, incest is more natural than homosexuality...which is what you called a perversion. Incest got man to where he is today, if you wear a Reynolds Wrap fedora.

Yeah, the genes may be scrambled eggs, but you pro-lifers love incest babies and retards, right?

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 3:02

Ben, coulda been. But.. like Adam, why not not more humans from mud, plenty of mud left?

By: Loner on 5/9/12 at 3:03

Ben...for you, Big Iron, by Marty Robbins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmUsJvRv7U

By: BenDover on 5/9/12 at 3:05

On Day 4 God created the sun, the moon, the stars and the grays.

By: gdiafante on 5/9/12 at 3:07

The sun is a star. Didn't God know that?

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 3:07

When the moon hits your eyes like a big pizza pie....

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 3:09

The sun started out as an understudy, not a star.

By: gdiafante on 5/9/12 at 3:10

True story. It wasn't until Sirius broke it's corona that the Sun got its big break.

By: Loner on 5/9/12 at 3:12

Comedic synergism...humor in just five short minutes:

By: Loner on 5/9/12 at 3:48

Slack: Heads up!....."An unborn guy walks into a gay piano mortuary......."

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 3:53

Attendent says.. are you a Sandra Fluke discard?

And still some wonder why we post here......this is the first-hand raw stuff....lots of roughage....no holds and no holes barred.

By: brrrrk on 5/9/12 at 3:17

"In the matter of religion, men are but overgrown children. The more absurd a religion is, and the fuller of marvels, the more power it exerts; the devotee thinks himself obliged to place no limits to his credulity; the more inconceivable things are, the more divine they appear to him; the more incredible they are, the more merit he gives himself for believing them. " - Jean Meslier, 1732.

By: Loner on 5/9/12 at 3:20

Hey, the sun could fart at anytime....life on earth could be seriously impacted by solar flatulence.....the Dinosaurs built up a methane-rich atmosphere....maybe solar flatulence lit the Dino-farts.....luckily, the oppressed mammals were asleep, in their underground burrows, when "The Big Poof" occurred....the meek inherited the earth.

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 3:26

Which brings up Reincarnation, and souls to fill an order.

By: Loner on 5/9/12 at 3:27

Nailed the Nashville 4:20.....wasn't really aiming for it, but I'll take it.

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 3:28

Guy dies.. soul goes to maternity ward, no problem.

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 3:31

Premature birth? over abundance of waiting souls.

By: Loner on 5/9/12 at 3:35

"Reincarnation" is a lovely word...it has a Latin base in "carne", or "meat"....reincarnate.....to become meat once again...wow...what a concept.

Mankind certainly is imaginative...all kinds of creation myths are out there...one for each language group I would say....but in Tennessee, we recognize the Hebrew creation myth as Gospel truth....the only credible alternative to Evolution Theory....a narrative that is officially sanctioned in TN public schools.

By: Loner on 5/9/12 at 3:38

Slack is on a roll...I like simplicity in dogma....Slack has it down!

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 3:38

As Peggy Lee said: ''is this all there is?''

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 3:41

No Priests, Rabbi's, or Preachers needed in my world Loner.

By: BenDover on 5/9/12 at 3:49

Hey Moses said he chatted with the big guy about all of this for 40 days and 40 nights on top of Mount Sinai. I've got no reason to doubt him. Divine revelation is a piece of cake once you realize intelligent organisms don't just bootstrap themselves out of the mud. The accounts of creation, the flood, etc, were in figuratives and terms that the people of the time could comprehend and use. You sure can't discount its influence and persistence. Only recently have we become so smart and arrogant that we can dismiss it as a society... and we see where that is getting us.

By: brrrrk on 5/9/12 at 4:01

BenDover said

"Hey Moses said he chatted with the big guy about all of this for 40 days and 40 nights on top of Mount Sinai. I've got no reason to doubt him. Divine revelation is a piece of cake once you realize intelligent organisms don't just bootstrap themselves out of the mud."

Says you.... where's your evidence? You're walking backwards from a belief to an assumption as most creationists do. You believe in "Divine revelation" and therefore assume that's it's impossible for life to "bootstrap itself out of the mud".

"All human intelligences are more or less enlightened and cultivated. By what fatality is it that the science of God has never been explained? The most civilized nations and the most profound thinkers are of the same opinion in regard to the matter as the most barbarous nations and the most ignorant and rustic people. As we examine the subject more closely, we will find that the science of divinity by means of reveries and subtleties has but obscured it more and more. Thus far, all religion has been founded on what is called in logic, a "begging of the question;" it supposes freely, and then proves, finally, by the suppositions it has made."

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 4:05

Ben, I agree with you that there's some type of creator, illogical not to think so IMO. Too many coincidences would have had to occur at precise times, to not have had a controlling force involved. I don't have a clue as to how, and what. Everybody has to sort it out for themselves.

By: Loner on 5/9/12 at 4:13

Ben has the freedom to worship as he wishes...Slack too.....we all do...to a certain extent, that is.....it's when faith enters the realm of governance....aye...that's where the rub is.....theocracy has not performed all that well over the millennia .

Secular democratic governance has been a giant step forward for mankind.....but some want to backslide into theocracy, mysticism and the supernatural.....and some of the believers are armed, militant, zealous and therefore dangerous.

By: BenDover on 5/9/12 at 4:13

No actually I came at it as a critic but I cannot reconcile how we came to be without a little help, brrrrrk. In my world random systems don't organize themselves into highly complex intelligent beings. In my world the miracles of life are exactly that and not yet-to-be explained scientific phenomenon. And in my world I recognize I'm proceeding on faith where the world of science never admits it shares that inherent weakness.

Divine revelation is a simple matter from there once you realize the weakness in the boot-strap from nothing theory.

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 4:26

Loner, old guys of my ilk, are quickly dying off. Secularism will eventually win out in this country. Probably 20-30- years if the country's remains intact.

By: Loner on 5/9/12 at 4:31

The theory of evolution does not rely upon an unseen Divine Hand in order to validate itself.

Chances are fairly good that any wet and rocky mudball in the "Goldilocks Zone" of its star... is hosting some sort of "life"....any such mudball massive enough to hold an atmosphere and support a hydrologic cycle probably hosts living organisms.

If this assumption is true, then such extraterrestrial life is probably also evolving to adapt to its environment.

It's a universal truth....when it comes to life, it's eat or be eaten.... that simple rule, given enough time, will eventually result in the evolution of higher forms of life....if the environment is not static, over geologic time, evolution can produce some truly wonderful things.

By: Loner on 5/9/12 at 4:34

Hang in there, Slack...us old guys rule!

By: Captain Nemo on 5/9/12 at 4:41

This has been fun reading. You guys have out done yourselves today.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/9/12 at 4:42

When my old freinds die I look for news ones.

By: slacker on 5/9/12 at 4:44

Loner, the theory of evolution, makes sense to me. My question is the complex nature of humans, namely emotions.

By: Captain Nemo on 5/9/12 at 4:52

slacker,it does make sense but it is far to complicated for most people to understand. It is easier to believe in magic for some.

By: Loner on 5/9/12 at 5:08

Folks...I have found irrefutable proof the the theory of intelligent design is fatally flawed....go to this You tube video and you will see what I mean....honestly I laughed until tears flowed...the music and video is fantastic...check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlGCtcncZsA&feature=related

By: Captain Nemo on 5/9/12 at 5:18

LOL Loner. Good night.

By: BenDover on 5/9/12 at 5:41

The science of evolution is indisputable. The idea that it's an end-all that explains the origins of life and humanity is ridiculous. Even Dawkins hedges his bets now and gives a creator a 1 in 70 shot of being the explanation for this miraculous world and the people in it.

By: BenDover on 5/9/12 at 6:04

Actually I'd like to revise that statement. The idea that evolution is an end-all that explains the origins of live and humanity if far from certain and in my opinion highly unlikely.