Up for Debate: Super morning after

Tuesday, March 6, 2012 at 10:26pm

What's your take on the Super Tuesday results? Did Rick Santorum's showing surprise you? What about Gingrich's showing?

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81 Comments on this post:

By: Mike Burch on 3/7/12 at 10:19


I love Richard the Zion-hearted. Did you coin that? If so, can I borrow it for my articles?


By: bfra on 3/7/12 at 10:24

brrrrk - Two commenting here , using anything to slur the President. Yogi, because he doesn't know any better & Ben , who sounds jealous & envious of Obama's accomplishments.

By: Mike Burch on 3/7/12 at 10:25

All versions of Christianity are nuttier than fruitcakes. But I have to admit that I like the one in which the prostitutes enter the kingdom of heaven before the self-righteous. And for some reason I prefer to think of Jesus as a tolerant, compassionate man who wouldn't save just the Pharisees because they perverted his sayings into a big money religion.

So in my heresy, Jesus is nice and the heretics, prostitutes, gays, et al, lead the parade into heaven. But being kinder and more tolerant, they don't force their oppressors to burn in hell for all eternity. They just heap a few coals on their heads by pointing out there are better things to believe.

By: BenDover on 3/7/12 at 10:29

"I see racist people" brrrk.

By: yogiman on 3/7/12 at 10:30


I'll admit, I served this nation for 7 years right after WWII and during the Korean Conflict (and by the way, joe41, we had democratic presidents then, plus more "conflicts" since then) and they hardened my skull quite a bit when looking at the "man" sitting in as our CIC. And I've hardened it more as I got to understand the Constitution and I just want to know who that man is who refuses to identify himself sitting in our White House.

Yet, he refuses to factually identify himself and you all accept him. If you have any, I feel sorry for your children and possible heirs of the future.

And don't tell me he's in there legally when you don't even know who he is. By your argument, you're saying anyone in the world can become president of the USA simply by saying; I want to run for that office.

By: yogiman on 3/7/12 at 10:40

It looks like we're outnumbered by Obama lovers, BenDover. Was it their [lack of] education that made them such idiots? How many of them flunked civics in school?

How many of them are so "[un]intelligent" they are so willing to accept someone in the Oval Office who refuses to identify himself? I can't even call them smart, let alone intelligent.

By: brrrrk on 3/7/12 at 10:41

BenDover said

""I see racist people" brrrk."

Give me a break, you know as well as I do that using the word "boy" to denigrate black males has had a long history in this country. No one but a complete idiot would be unaware of that. So the question is..... why do YOU still choose to use it? You could just as easily said, "Marx, Alinsky and his crazy anti-colonial daddy are all smiling up at their man from hell", but you didn't...... you used to word "boy".

By: gdiafante on 3/7/12 at 10:46

Sorry brrrk, I agree with Ben on this one. There is also an expression of calling someone your "boy", which I believe is derived from the term "homeboy". I've used it, so have you, most likely. I think Ben was using it in that sense, not as a racist overtone.

That's just what I think.

By: gdiafante on 3/7/12 at 10:47

Shut the hell up, yogi.

Let's ignore the troll.

By: BenDover on 3/7/12 at 10:49

It's also a way to refer to one's male child; as was the context of the comment.

By: bfra on 3/7/12 at 10:50

I'll bet Ben doesn't use the word "boy", when addressing blacks, in person.

By: brrrrk on 3/7/12 at 10:51

gdiafante said

"Sorry brrrk, I agree with Ben on this one. There is also an expression of calling someone your "boy", which I believe is derived from the term "homeboy". I've used it, so have you, most likely. I think Ben was using it in that sense, not as a racist overtone."

"Black Liberation Theology is dangerous"? Context means everything.....

By: BenDover on 3/7/12 at 10:53


By: gdiafante on 3/7/12 at 10:53

Yes, context does mean everything, and if Ben says his context was as a male child, then I take him for his word. I don't recall Ben as having posted racist content before.

By: brrrrk on 3/7/12 at 10:53

bfra said

"I'll bet Ben doesn't use the word "boy", when addressing blacks, in person."

Hell, I'd bet Mitt Romney's $10,000 on that one...... :-)

By: BenDover on 3/7/12 at 10:57

Thanks gd....

By: BenDover on 3/7/12 at 11:12

I call my daughter's baby daddy 'homie' sometimes when I bring him out to the shop. Does that count?

He compliments me by saying I've still got a lot of teeth for an inbred red-neck.

By: yogiman on 3/7/12 at 11:20

Well, dgiafante,

I'll repeat the deal with you that I've offered several times with you and your fellow Obama lovers before; simply present the evidence the man going by the name Barack Obama is legally in that office and I'll shut the hell up.

But until you do (which you can't), I'm going to stand by my argument equally with you and your cohorts.

Again, simply show what you accept as proof, and if it's a fact, I'll shut up. And if all you can say is "I saw his birth certificate", I'll just have to continue to accept your ignorance.

I'll continue to offer his autobiography as proof he isn't legally eligible. And there's more, believe me.

By: Loner on 3/7/12 at 11:40

By: Mike Burch on 3/7/12 at 10:19


I love Richard the Zion-hearted. Did you coin that? If so, can I borrow it for my articles?


Yes, Mike, that is a Loner original...I have used it a couple of times on different boards, WaPo, LA Times, WSJ, CSM and stuff like that...and here on the NCP too.

I Goggled Richard the Lion-hearted and noticed that often the name, "Richard the Lionheart" is used...no hyphen and a closed compound. I thought that I remembered it as Lion-hearted, not Lionheart...so I went with Zion-hearted...it makes it more clear, IMO.

Certainly, Richard's heart is in Zion.

Go ahead and use the term, Mike...I'm flattered that you liked it that much.

By: Rasputin72 on 3/7/12 at 11:42

GDiafante...........I think you are envious of those who are "cadavers" and do not need anything for free. These are the people who provide the "free stuff" via taxation.

In order to for you and yours to get anything for free someone must provide in some way the product or service you get for free.

I apologize for this rebuttal. I fully understand that logic is amiss in the lives of many people. Trying to instill and uninstillable thought is pure folly.

By: Loner on 3/7/12 at 12:12

Rasp is harping and carping about the new paradigm: The Worker Ants and the Grasshoppers, 21st century style.

The ants are busy and ambitious, storing away food for the winter...the grasshoppers just play the fiddle and dance all day....they don't work, they don't save, they don't plan ahead, the grasshoppers are hedonists....the ants are dedicated, ambitious and hard-working; they plan ahead....they work, eat and sleep, they have no time to party.

When the Winter comes, the ants have time to party....but they left the grasshoppers out in the cold to freeze to death....so their partying has no fiddle....the ants never learn to sing and dance....they survive, but they never really live.

By: yogiman on 3/7/12 at 1:01

Good "point of view", Loner. Now, let's do a little comparing: By your description, I must consider myself an ant (call it piss ant if you wish) and you and your cohorts as the grasshoppers (you know, the ones too stupid to prepare for the future (i.e., winter)).

You're having your hedonistic fun during the current "summer season" (meaning when a usurper is in the Oval Office whom you readily accept because of your ignorance (you know, you're too unconcerned of the future of our nation)).

Let's, then, call November 6 the beginning of nation's next winter. I fear y'all are going to freeze your asses off for refusing to "get to know the man". I hope you enjoy his socialistic government.

By: Rasputin72 on 3/7/12 at 1:14

LONER......."Speak for yourself,John Alden" I am reminded. This ant was busy and ambitous so that he could sing and dance the nights away. Some ants have the energy for work and ambition along with the desire to live a life in Camelot.

In these times my life has a religious bent. I believe in the "hereafter" and song and dance without a tomorrow payback is what I am "hereafter" and have achieved.

Let the Granite masoleum be my shrine after death.

By: Mike Burch on 3/7/12 at 1:22


I believe both Richard Lionheart and Richard the Lion-hearted are commonly used. I've seen both forms more that once. Congratulations on an original coinage! I'm going to use it in my next article. I've come up with a few original phrases and epigrams myself:

Religion is the dopiate of the sheeple.

Love is either wholly folly, or fully holy.

If God
is good
half the Bible
is libel.

Hell hath no fury like a frustrated fundamentalist whose God condemned him to "hell" for having "impure thoughts."

Life’s saving graces are love, pleasure, laughter ...
wisdom, it seems, is for the Hereafter.

Nun Fun Undone

are not for excesses!

Religion is the difficult process of choosing the least malevolent invisible friends.

If brevity is the soul of wit
then brevity and levity
are the whole of it.

To write an epigram, cram.
If you lack wit, scram!

I published a very popular page on epigrams that ranks highly with Google, and while I was working on it, things kept popping into my head.

By: gdiafante on 3/7/12 at 1:36

I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have Rasputin here to tell me who I envy. I suppose I'd just sit around all day envying all those rich people who would never attempt to get something for nothing...like hiring accountants to find tax loopholes...or donating money to politicians or organizations in return for favorable political legislation...they would never do that...

That's sarcasm...(for yogi...he's not too bright)

By: yogiman on 3/7/12 at 2:10

I'll admit I'm not too bright, gdiafante. So why won't you also admit your ignorance? Because you're too dumb to realize it?

Question: Why do the people of Kenya refer to Barack Obama as being born there? Ancestrally, perhaps? May I suggest you go to the 2010 Kenyan parliamentary debate and see what they said.

During the 2010 debate, James Orengo, the country's minister of lands and a member of that parliament, cited America's election of what he called a Kenyan-born president as an example of what can be accomplished when diverse people unite.

Orengo asked, "if America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become president of America?"

Mr. Orengo further said, "The United States is no longer living in the past" in his congratulation for Americans for supposedly electing a native Kenyan as their president without regard to "ethnic consideration and objections."

That debate was recorded in the Kenyan government's official March 25, 2010, hansard - a traditional name for printed transcripts of a parliamentary debate - as continuing with no other MPs mentioning or attempting to correct Orengo's comments about Obama being born in Kenya.

Hugh? Was Orengo wrong in making those comments?

By: Rasputin72 on 3/7/12 at 3:51

Gdiafante..........You make my point very well. Your statement alone about hiring accountants and donating to political causes should be an indication of how many jobs people with money create. If there were no loophole why would one want to hire an accountant to find something that does not exist. Who pays for the political campaigns and speeches and signs and private aircraft and etc and etc. Were it not for the campaign money and it is huge think about the work that would not be created so that printers,pilots,speech writers,bankers limo drivers,restaurants and etc and etc could have a job.

It is the dollar and those that have it whether we like or not make the world go around.

Be thankful for everyone who is a multi millionaire except for the sluts on Wall Street.

By: brrrrk on 3/7/12 at 3:58

Rasputin72 said

"It is the dollar and those that have it whether we like or not make the world go around."

So Capital drives everything? If so, what is the source of Capital?

By: Rasputin72 on 3/7/12 at 5:48

Brrrk.........Surely the public school system has a course that explains the formation of capital? "Capital" has been around since man has been on earth. Today capital formation is more sophisticated but the formation is not any different than someone coming up with the first bronze axe or tool. The desire of people to have that bronze axe immediately made the axe capital.

You have been working for wages far too long to not have a longer view of how an economy works.

No offense meant but this absence of understanding is why we have a nation of majority voters whose only course of action is to vote for "free capital"

I certainly admit that if I wanted a car but could only afford groceries that I would vote for someone who would supply free groceries so I could buy a car.

No democracy has ever lasted when the public can vote themselves "free stuff" Welfare, Medical Care,Unemployment,loan forgiveness,food stamps,free lunch for kids,free breakfast. free education and on and on and on.

By: yogiman on 3/7/12 at 6:27

How many intelligent democrats do you know, Rasputin72, maybe one or two? The majority of officially named democrats are commonly known a dumbocraps with their gimmefree hand out.

By: Rasputin72 on 3/7/12 at 8:42

Yogiman......There are enough very intelligent democrats that it is impossible to call the entire group lacking in intelligence. What I have never been able to completely nail down is how do they use this intelligence to become democrats. You never get a story from one of them that you can completely think through. It is probably a myriad of reasons that have to do with things as uncommon as guilt,lack of self esteem as a youngster, being bullied as a child,and other not discussed effects.