Up for Debate: Taking over for Torrence

Thursday, July 7, 2011 at 10:05pm

The Metro Council will likely be responsible for considering nominations and appointing a new Davidson County Criminal Court clerk to replace David Torrence, who is resigning following a Channel 4 report that showed him working modest hours and improperly using a company car to buy wine. As part of the process, citizens will have seven days to submit replacement nominations, names of whom would then be sent to the Nashville Bar Association to poll its members and offer recommendations. A potential candidate to replace Torrence might be current Councilman Michael Craddock, who lost to Torrence in the 2010 Democratic primary for the clerk's job. Craddock considered a mayoral race before deciding to recently end the effort. Who would you like to see replace Torrence? 

35 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 7/8/11 at 5:12

What a despicable charge: using the co. car to buy wine.
Was he video taped drinking it? If not, then so what?

By: budlight on 7/8/11 at 5:31

D7, this topic is sort of, well for lack of a better word, lame. You didn't nominate Loner and that surprises me. Why don't you put your name in the hat?

By: govskeptic on 7/8/11 at 6:08

This is strictly a Clerk and management position, so how did the Nashville Bar
Assoc. wind up with being an important recommend-er during an appointment?
If that's in the Charter, maybe there needs to be a change there to substitute the
Nashville Humane Society's or Unemployed Council Member's Union recommendation for the job!

By: treehugger7 on 7/8/11 at 6:25

We have had enough Craddock. Give some other overweight white man the job. That seems to be the M.O. in Nashville.

By: gdiafante on 7/8/11 at 6:33

Darge, if taxpayer money is involved, any loafing, daydreaming, off-topic thoughts, excessive trips to the bathroom, friendly banter with coworkers or general malaise is a no-no and will result in character assassination, I-team investigations and hatred from the masses.

Didn't you get the memo?

By: dargent7 on 7/8/11 at 7:02

gD: I delete all memos.
But, they got this guy going to the liquor store buying a bottle of wine?
Now, if he was filmed popping the cork in the car and swigging it, then fire him.
Otherwise, I hope they have something more substantial.
Like soliciting a prostitute, sell/ buying drugs. Child porn. Voting Republican.
Seen buying GW Bush's book, "Decision Points", or even worse, Rummy's, "Known and Unknown".

By: bfra on 7/8/11 at 7:23

d7 - How about just not showing up for work? The guy only worked 2 or 3 days a wk.. As for Craddock, there is still a fishy smell about how he pulled out of the mayor's race and saying he has financial problems. That doesn't sound like good qualifications!

By: bfra on 7/8/11 at 7:25

bud - Still waiting on the dept & # of the Metro office that told you about those 10,000 businesses operation out of residential homes.

By: Kosh III on 7/8/11 at 7:27

working only a few hours is the problem. plenty of metro workers work hard, must work overtime without ot pay and get farrrr less pay
would a private business pay someone full time for parttime work o right the bosses do it all the time never mind

By: bfra on 7/8/11 at 7:33

Torrence also hired both his sons, without going through proper procedure.

By: Kosh III on 7/8/11 at 8:55

hired family members??? who does he think he is? mardha blackburn?

By: Kosh III on 7/8/11 at 8:55

hired family members??? who does he think he is? mardha blackburn?

By: Kosh III on 7/8/11 at 8:55

hired family members??? who does he think he is? mardha blackburn?

By: Kosh III on 7/8/11 at 8:55

hired family members??? who does he think he is? mardha blackburn?

By: Kosh III on 7/8/11 at 8:55

hired family members??? who does he think he is? mardha blackburn?

By: bfra on 7/8/11 at 9:13

Kosh - I didn't mean for you to take it that serious! LOL

By: Kosh III on 7/8/11 at 9:22

oops, sorry, don't know how that happened. besides, I meant Marsha not mardha lol

By: bfra on 7/8/11 at 9:24

LOL Kost! Happens to the best of us!

By: dargent7 on 7/8/11 at 9:26

K-3: You have to stop frequenting those gay piano bars.
It make's one, how we say, stutter.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/8/11 at 9:32

That is a possibility bfra, but I think somewhere down the line she will get what is coming to her.

As far as any book deals or movies are concerned, the prosecuting attorney will cash in on that.

By: budlight on 7/8/11 at 9:35

Kosh, that tic has got to go! LOL

bfra, I'm on it. The nano-second that I get the name and phone # I will zip it to y ou via a column in CP - this one. I have left them 3 messages to call me back at the zoning offfice; they are busy trying to Re-zone Sylvan Park so that some Section 8 housing can be moved in from Antioch in order to create more diversity as D7 is always bragging about Sylvan Park being 100 White!!!! I've petitioned them to start that process and will keep you all posted as to my progress. I'll have to get city council and Karl Dean on board first.

If you believe all that, then I have some prime property in Antioch I'd like to sell you. LOL

By: Kosh III on 7/8/11 at 10:11

what next syd? black folks using the front door in belle meade??

By: budlight on 7/8/11 at 10:28

Kosh, what do you mean? D7 is the one always bragging about Sylvan Park being "all white".

bfra, here is the info: The Planning Commission # is 862-7190 and the lady who helped with the Bill #2011-924 is Jennifer Region (who is on vacation today) but you can talk to Mr. Burnette. Hopefully this matter is not totally defeated. The businesses that are operating without an actual home occupancy permit are probably generating revenue for the community; cutting down on unemployment and helping to make a more vibrant local economy. If they all were permitted to have HOP's then that would generate more tax revenue for the city.

So bfra, you hop on it and get that bill re-submitted through city council and passed.

Kosh, don't they already do that?

By: dargent7 on 7/8/11 at 10:41

Bud: Unlike your 'relativity" stories, I live in Sylvan Park. And there is not one Black/ Asian/ Chinese/ Latino owning or renting. It IS 100% "White".
And this fool who wrote a book about it says, "It's a dangerous neighborhood".
Yeah. Married "White" people with two kids and a dog are always doing home invasions and attempted murder and daylight robberies. Just like in East Nashville.
I think that I've lived in East Detroit, the South side of Chicago, and East LA, I know something about, "dangerous".
Go plant some vegetables.

By: dargent7 on 7/8/11 at 10:43

K-3: Belle Meade, as well as Hillwood and Richland, have one or two "black" members.
Just for show. Seems they never play golf.

By: Kosh III on 7/8/11 at 10:48

syd i was being sarcastic sorry :(

By: budlight on 7/8/11 at 11:03

oh, I thought you were just being funny. No apology necessary. Anyway, Bellemeade is a nice place to visit and it might be nice to live there - lol.

bfra, where are you? bfra on 7/8/11 at 8:25
bud - Still waiting on the dept & # of the Metro office that told you about those 10,000 businesses operation out of residential homes.
See 11:28 post

By: bfra on 7/8/11 at 12:51

bud - yes I spoke with Mr. Burnette. The story I got, that is an estimated figure they got from the tax assessor's office. When ask, why these are not closed, he's response, because the codes dept. hasn't done it.

No, why would I want that bill passed? Commercial property is taxed at a higher rate, than residential. So, these illegal businesses, operating in residential areas, are cheating the taxpayers out of more that just a business license fee. Speaking from experience, there are a lot of license & tax money they are, in other words, stealing from the public.

By: budlight on 7/8/11 at 2:50

The reason they can't close 10,000 businesses is because it would cause an economic disaster in this city.

I understand that commercial property is taxed at a higher rate than residential. That is why if someone wants a "small" business in their home, there should be some formula which allows for an adjustment on their taxes wherein that gap is filled. It is a simple math formula.

I dont' think that a person who is supplementing their income with a small "at home" business is stealing from the public. I think that the city should, as many other cities throughout the country have done, formulate a way to make this work.

I hear this post screaming and crying and lamenting over BIG business all the time and yet when this opportunity comes up to embrace, stimulate and encourage small business, there is an abrupt turn-around and lambasting of them.

Most sole proprietor small businesses such as tax preparer, music teacher, tutors, nail techs, dog trainers, and others cannot afford to pay the high rents, utilities and other fees associated with renting office space. Add to that their gas to and from work.

So I am for adjusting the laws (rules or whatever they are called) to accommodate them. ESPECIALLY in this economy when every penny is worth less than it used to be.

By: bfra on 7/8/11 at 3:09

When they start enforcing the laws, already on the books, the revenue would increase. As they are not enforcing the present laws, why do you think adding another, so every tom, dick & harry could open whatever business they please would help. What would be the point of having zones? Some you named, nail techs, tax preparers & dog trainers certainly have more than 1 or 2 clients at a time. And Aunt Susie wants to have a music recital, what's 25 to 50 cars lining the street & blocking traffic? Most people that live in residential areas, are there because the area is residential!

By: budlight on 7/8/11 at 3:41

bfra, what about when one of your neighbors has a baby shower, a bridal shower, a birthday party, a dinner after a funeral at their home, or a super bowl party, a football bash, an after hours breakfast party? Any of that ever go on and have cars "lining the street and blocking traffic"?

nail techs can only do one set of nails per 1/2 to one hour; dog trainers usually train on dog at a time or meet in a park for group training (I know cause my dog trainer lives in WEST Nashville and I went to the home for individual training). Tax preparers can book one client every hour (cause it takes about an hour to do taxes) or every 1/2 hour.

So be sure and let your neighbors know that they are not allowed to have any guests over one at a time in their home. No more parties in your neighborhood!

By: bfra on 7/8/11 at 4:04

Sorry bud - socials you mentioned are not everyday events. If I wanted to l

By: judyboodo@yahoo.com on 7/8/11 at 5:23

Business taxes, hmmm, I pay income tax, 941 tax, 940 tax, 1120 tax, property tax, self-employment tax, business tax, personalty tax, excise tax, boiler tax (I don't have a boiler), alarm tax. Why do you have to have a license to be in business? Why do you have to have a license to get married? I've got about as much privilege as I can stand.

By: yogiman on 7/8/11 at 6:40

In answer to your question, judyboodo, the government has got to get all of your money "he" can. Can't you think of anything else he could use to get a little bit more? You could volunteer to givit2um.

By: Ex Civil on 7/9/11 at 10:10

Welcome though this resignation of a grossly unqualified elected court clerk may be [why are the persons heading administrative function elected ????], the replacement will be as unqualified as the most recently elected court clerk, David Smith, Juvenile Court Clerk. The salaries of these positions are just too juicy for the Davidson political machines to pass up. Their progeny or the next in line from the machine, regardless of qualifications, will be advance and supported. Why has Metro Davidson County Government, Mayor and Council, not asked the legislature to exempt the court clerk position in the County from the election process. The State Supreme Court ruling that made these positions elected may serve as a valid check on abuses by judges in the rural counties, but they do not serve the public interest in the urban counties. The need for several elected officials, including the Sheriff, in Metro Davidson County needs to be revisited. I know this would be a hard decision for the Mayor and Council to address since their objective is often serving enough time in elected office to qualify for health care benefits. Could implementation of the universal health care crafted by the Congress and Health Insurance Companies reduce the incentive to run for elected office regardless of ones qualifications?