Up for Debate: Two reports, two Romneys

Friday, October 5, 2012 at 12:15am

In an interview with Fox News, Mitt Romney calls Libya attack a "tragic failure." Also, CNN reports Romney says in a Fox News interview that he was "completely wrong" on 47 percent comment. Discuss.

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98 Comments on this post:

By: govskeptic on 10/5/12 at 4:47

Romney was exactly right about the killings in Libya as a "tragic failure" .
A failures of a State Dept. too naive to either move or assure the safety
of the personnel there with security on the important date of 8/11., even
after multiple request from that office for more. Within 12 to 24 hrs after
the event this President and administration went into fully false and
known story to cover up the truth on why and how it happened.

With the entire administration working on the re-election efforts, never
has this huge government been left to run so long on it's own without
leadership at all from so many. BUT, this is only 1 story of many that
could be told on this same leaderless problem. One could easily
conclude there will be many more if four more yrs are allowed.

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 6:06

Well, I'm not sure why we'd need much security for the important date of 8/11, but ok...maybe the terrorists are retarded or can't follow a calendar...

Why is it that every election cycle people whine about the incumbent engaging in the re-election process. Are they naive enough to think that the President isn't on the job 24/7...or that people can actually multitask...and it's both sides that do this too...I guess it's more proof that politics brings out the dumb in people.

By: govskeptic on 10/5/12 at 6:27

gdi: Do you have a tracking device on my computer when I'm commenting?
I ask only because 9 out of 10 times there's always a smart@ass and
usually irrelevant comment from you that follows immediately. I will
however, proof read my numbers in the future.

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 6:34

Maybe you should put forth a better effort, huh? Chop chop

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 6:38

Well well well...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/04/romney-on-47-comments-i-was-completely-wrong/?hpt=hp_t1

Not addressing his credibility, what are all the people who defended his comments going to do now?

Disingenous? Did he suddenly have an epiphany regarding those without silver spoons up their derrier? Personally, I'd put this on the shelf labeled things you say to win the election.

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 6:57

By the way, gov...lighten up. It's Friday.

By: yogiman on 10/5/12 at 7:11

Well, gdiafante..,

You're showing Romney admitting he was wrong 47 times. Now show how many time Obama has admitted to being wrong in the past 4 years.

Hell, show us just 1! Then we'd have to admit he's telling the truth... sometimes... like once in a while.

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 7:12

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By: yogiman on 10/5/12 at 7:19

A little history to note: In 1942 President Franklin Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, which ordered all people of Japanese decent to be rounded up and placed into interment camps.

The U.S. Supreme Court supported that order in the landmark 'Korematsu v. United States' decision.

Understand, that decision has never been overturned.

If Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama re-usurps that office and congress let's it happen again, how long will it be before EO9066 happens again?

By: yogiman on 10/5/12 at 7:22

Looks like you don't want to know the facts, huh, gdiafante?

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 7:24

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By: Captain Nemo on 10/5/12 at 7:29

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By: Captain Nemo on 10/5/12 at 7:37

The Romney we are seeing now is not the Romney that the Tea Party wants. He is nicer and cleaner that the Romney that was nominated. But they will accept him as long as he keeps the darkie out of office.

By: yogiman on 10/5/12 at 7:53

Only idiots like you see the difference in color, duma$$. I keep wondering how you can support a man when you don't even know who in the hell he is.

That's all of you exposing your ignorance so much. You can only see his race as your support. You have no idea who he is, where he was born or when he was born.

Wake up, children. It's past time to get an education on politicians.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/5/12 at 7:59

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-drives-the-obama-doubters-and-haters/2012/07/27/gJQAIbImDX_story.html

By: yogiman on 10/5/12 at 8:17

Question: Why was the house bill HR 347 passed on February 28, 2012?

It was voted yea by all House members except 3. They were Paul Broun R-GA, Justin Amash R-MI and Ron Paul R-TX. All nine of our Tennessee representatives voted yea. Diane Black will not get my vote next month. That is, if we have an election.

What is HR 347? It says if anyone causes a disruption, aka protest, at a government building or near someone protected by the Secret Service, they can be jailed for up to 10 years in federal prison.

That is the known average time served for murder. Manslaughter is usually one year. So Congress thinks exercising your right to free speech is more dangerous than murder.

So much for freedom of speech. What will be the next freed they will take from us (by law, of course)... unless we rebel.

Could such a bill as that be a reason why no one in congress will question Obama's legal qualifications for office? If he is kept in office illegally), our 2nd Amendment will be one of his first moves by going through the UN... who aren't our friends. They are pushing for One World Government. And Obama isn't the first man in office to sail on that boat with them.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/5/12 at 8:20

Thanks for the link Blanket, but if this is to educate the dimwit, it is a waste of time and he is a waste.

Lunch tomorrow sounds good for me. Same place same time?

By: Captain Nemo on 10/5/12 at 8:20

Rasputin if you are out there today. Do you know a J. Coleman? It has been 25 yrs since I last saw him.

By: Moonglow1 on 10/5/12 at 8:27

Moonglow1:

We are the hollow men, head piece filled with straw. The poem, The Hollow Men by T. S. Elliott is a perfect description of Bishop Romney.

His debate performance was pathetic. It was characterized by bursts of mania. He appeared to be on loads of amphetamines. He appears to be a bipolar (manic depressive) with psychopathic tendencies. In plain English: a total nut job. I do not want a self medicating mentally ill person as The President of the United States.

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 8:27

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The reality is that Mitt knows he did exceedingly well in the debate, which gives him new life. He can't alienate half the electorate and expect to win. Although, if he genuinely felt this way about the 47%, he would have said so immediately when the tape came out.

This was an explicit tactic...he came out early in the debate and made it clear that he was going to help the middle class, not the wealthy, which goes against most of his entire campaign. Now, he wants to embrace those who he believes are entitlement whores...this is rhetoric meant to win an election. Don't expect any of it actually happen if elected.

Caveat emptor...

By: Captain Nemo on 10/5/12 at 8:31

President Bush did not do well in his first debated with Kerry, but turn that all around in the second and third debates.

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 8:42

Well, I have a theory about that, nemo. The debates really had no effect on the 2004 election. It was decided by the swiftboat BS.

In a similar vein, Romney could win all the debates but if the people don't trust him, he has no chance. I suspect that most rational thinking people can see his 180 degree turn for what it is.

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 8:48

Good news: Unemployment falls below 8%

That's not great news, jobs still are not being created as fast as population growth, but it's something. At least it's headed in the right direction.

Boy, that jobs bill that the GOP killed could have helped, huh?

By: budlight on 10/5/12 at 8:59

The following is a list of quotes from Obama that shows why his supporters really think he's the smartest man on the planet! Duh!
1) "Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel 's."
Barack Obama
2) "I've now been in 57 states I think one left to go."
Barack Obama
3) "On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes, and I see many of them in the audience here today."
Barack Obama
4) "What they'll say is, 'Well it costs too much money,' but you know what? It would cost, about. It it it would cost about the same as what we would spend. It. Over the course of 10 years it would cost what it would costs us. (nervous laugh) All right. Okay. We're going to. It. It would cost us about the same as it would cost for about hold on one second. I can't hear myself. But I'm glad you're fired up, though. I'm glad."
Barack Obama
5) "The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system."
Barack Obama
6) "I bowled a 129. It's like - it was like the Special Olympics, or something."
Barack Obama
7) "Of the many responsibilities granted to a president by our Constitution, few are more serious or more consequential than selecting a Supreme Court justice. The members of our highest court are granted life tenure, often serving long after the presidents who appointed them. And they are charged with the vital task of applying principles put to paper more than 20 centuries ago to some of the most difficult questions of our time." (20 centuries? Did we even have a Supreme Court back then?)
Barack Obama
8) "Everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma, they end up taking up a hospital bed, it costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early and they got some treatment, and a, a breathalyzer, or inhalator, not a breathalyzer. I haven't had much sleep in the last 48 hours."
Barack Obama
9) "It was interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing."
Barack Obama
10) "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."
Barack Obama
Each of these quotes are directly from President Barack Obama. And now you know why he brings his teleprompter with him everywhere he goes... even when talking to a 6th grade class. And some members of the media continue to insist he is "the smartest man ever elected to the Presidency".

By: yogiman on 10/5/12 at 9:00

But don't you want one in that office legally, Moonglow1?

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 9:01

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By: budlight on 10/5/12 at 9:08

gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 8:48
Good news: Unemployment falls below 8%

That's not great news, jobs still are not being created as fast as population growth, but it's something. At least it's headed in the right direction.

Boy, that jobs bill that the GOP killed could have helped, huh?

And one of the primary reason that unemployment is falling is the fact that some of the people who WERE looking for jobs have STOPPED LOOKING so they are no longer being counted.

It would help the employment situation if Obama would just resign. Or lose the election (which is the most probable).

By: bfra on 10/5/12 at 9:10

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By: yogiman on 10/5/12 at 9:12

Moonglow1,

If you think a medication would help Romney, don't you think Obama should be taking a double dose?

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 9:12

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By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/5/12 at 9:19

Nemo, I'm up for lunch tomorrow! Same place works for me.

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 9:26

http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/05/news/economy/september-jobs-report/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Unemployment unexpectedly fell to 7.8% in September, down from 8.1%, as a survey of U.S. households showed 873,000 more Americans had jobs compared to a month earlier

Let's create another button...

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By: bfra on 10/5/12 at 9:35

Romeny will say anything to get a vote. He talks out of both sides of his mouth at the same time. If he says something, aside or openly, & it doesn't get a positive response, he starts backing up, with I said that wrong or that wasn't what I meant. For some people not to see how false he really is, is amazing.l

By: bfra on 10/5/12 at 9:36

gdiafante - Better get a patten on that, Ben will be claiming he started it. LOL

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 9:40

Interesting read...

http://www.economist.com/node/21564175

By: yogiman on 10/5/12 at 9:43

I couldn't get your recommended post on my 'puter, B2, so I looked it by the day noted. You didn't open your post with a question. Was you referring to "What drives the Obama doubters and haters" by David Maraniss as a question to Obama's legal occupancy of the White House?

If so, I'm wondering, did you read his autobiography? If so, have you ever wondered why he advertised his birth in Kenya and being raised in Indonesia and Hawaii for 16 years? You know, from 1991 until 2007 when he entered the campaign?

Have you not ever wondered why he's keeping his papers under lock and key if he is in the office legally? And by his papers, I mean: Certified birth certificate, his SSN from Connecticut, his registration papers, his college papers, his passport for entrance to Pakistan is 1981. You know, just a few simple papers to show us who he is?

Another question: If his advertisement was accurate and he was born in Kenya, his mother was too young to pass her American citizenship down to him according tot he laws of 1961.

So what makes you sure he has ever become a naturalized American citizen, let alone it being impossible to become a natural born American citizen?

And I think the friendships he's showing today should make you understand why our founders put that "natural born" status in our Constitution.

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 9:44

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By: bfra on 10/5/12 at 9:45

I misspelled Romney, but what the heck, I can just change it around like Romney & nobody will know the difference.

By: yogiman on 10/5/12 at 10:05

B2,

According to that article, Maraniss stated the newspapers ran notices of his birth among other local births.

Fact: If he was born in Hawaii, why did the newspapers not show his parents address? Why did they show his grandparents address? Because his grandparents gave that "notice" to the newspapers. They weren't required to prove he was born locally.

The hospital he showed on that "long form birth certificate" didn't exist in 1961. It became that name in 1971 when the two hospitals combined.

More questions: Why won't a doctor admit he was Obama's deliverer? Why won't the hospital admit they was his place of birth? Why did he make the comment, "I'm glad to be back home" on a visit to Kenya? Why did Michelle state they had to take medical shots to go through Africa to Kenya, his homeland?

But a bigger question on my part: Why has congress allowed all of this to happen without question? Unless you Obama fans are fellow communists, you had better wake up.

By: bfra on 10/5/12 at 10:09

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By: Loner on 10/5/12 at 10:21

Good morning, Nashville.

Romney regrets the gaffe; that's what he means when he says he was "wrong"....like his daddy before him, Willard is a gaffe-prone loser....with George Romney, it was the "brainwashed" remark, with Willard, it's the "47%" remark.

Romney is trying to exploit the deaths in Libya for personal political gain. As for the "tragic failure" comment, if we elect this idiot to the presidency, we shall witness a huge, unprecedented, tragic failure.

Romney is an animated empty suit, stuffed with one-liners and zingers....we need a real leader, not a wise-assed but vacuous election winner.

By: bfra on 10/5/12 at 10:25

Loner - And Big Bird doesn't like Romney, either.:-)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 10/5/12 at 10:37

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By: Ask01 on 10/5/12 at 10:42

Curiously, despite Willards insistant declarations President Obama has failed to create jobs, a report on another news site shows job creation actually increasing under the president's plan.

All despite the concerted efforts by Willard, the GOP, and corporate America to keep Americans unemployed to compliment their voter denial efforts to skew the elction.

Admittedly, Willard did come across well in the first debate. Too well, in fact, more like a slick, devious, get your money salesman then a potential President of the United States.

I will admit, there is some quality, an aura, if you wil surrounding Willard like the stench around an open sewer, that repels me and causes me to just not like him, so he could promise six figure jobs for everyone and I would not believe him, so yes, I am biased.

Once again, beware the three R's.

By: Loner on 10/5/12 at 10:43

Big Bird doesn't like Romney?

Romney is too much like "The Count"...he's always counting....counting his money: 10 million, 20 million, 30 million...ha, ha, ha, ha....40 million, 50 million, 60 million...ha, ha, ha ha......etc.

By: bfra on 10/5/12 at 10:49

Good read:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-takes-second-crack-romney-tax-plan-150735057--election.html

By: Loner on 10/5/12 at 10:50

It's amazing to me, how the Republicans claim that government can't create real jobs, just make-work phony jobs and workfare, yet the first thing Romney did in the last debate was to chide the POTUS for not creating jobs....the hypocrisy level is so high in the GOP, they are changing the party logo...from an elephant to a hippo....they are now the party of the hippo-crits.

By: gdiafante on 10/5/12 at 10:50

There's nothing wrong with success. The issue with Romney is that he pretends to be something he's not. Most politicians do, but I think most people understand that Obama doesn't favor the rich and Romney doesn't favor anyone else.

It's that simple.

By: bfra on 10/5/12 at 10:56

Like the site I posted says, Romney can say is gonna do, he just doesn't say HOW.

By: Loner on 10/5/12 at 11:01

The choice is simple; the GOP is offering the voter a mean-spirited, shifty tycoon whose name recognition smoothed his path to success and who now wants to become our POTUS...the Democrats are offering the voter an experienced POTUS who needs a second term to complete his plans - a mixed race individual, whose name unfortunately sounds like that of an Islamic terrorist, perhaps...a man whose physical features are Negroid.....a man who earned everything that he has accomplished through perseverance, hard work, his brains and his courage.

The choice is an easy one, vote for Barack Hussein Obama in November....send Bishop Romney back to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.