Up for Debate: Urban chicken legislation rises again

Wednesday, October 26, 2011 at 10:10pm

Would permits to legally house chickens in Nashville’s Urban Services District lead to renewable food sources, or public health and sanitation concerns? 

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111 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 4:03

They’re back. More chicken jokes to come?

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 4:11

Why did the chicken cross the basketball court ?
He heard the referee calling fowls

Why did the turkey cross the road ?
To prove he wasn't chicken

Why did the chicken cross the road, roll in the mud and cross the road again ?
Because he was a dirty double-crosser

Why did the rubber chicken cross the road?
She wanted to stretch her legs.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 4:21

By: yogiman on 10/26/11 at 4:22
Time will tell the pictures I've tried to show aren't upside down.

In his mental misplaced state of mind (And I use the word mind loosely) and while standing on his head, yogi has convinced himself that the rest of the world is upside down.

By: dargent7 on 10/27/11 at 4:29

Then you'll want a rooster for the eggs.
News flash: they all rise and shine at 3:00am EVERY DAY.
Good luck.

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 5:01

Good morning, Nashville.

Just when we thought that things could not get more chickensh*t around here, the NCP puts this up for debate.

Would these be "free range" chickens? Free range chickens make deposits all over the yard, sidewalks, on automobiles, the porch etc. Or would these be incarcerated chickens, "living" in tiny, fecal encrusted cages? Who would perform the chicken patrol duties, to enforce the chicken laws?

Did Jesus, the Christ, approve of urban chickens? We want a Christ-centered city here in the Bible Belt. What do the pastors say about this fowl subject?

And then there is the rooster's call at 3 AM, as Darge pointed out...that might add to the Country and Western image of Music City. I say go with a chicken in every pot, and in every backyard....front yards too.

By: govskeptic on 10/27/11 at 5:04

As long as they are registered, tagged, proper personal
property taxes paid on per chicken, and adequate fencing
along with EPA sanitation guidelines followed,
I see no problems!

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 5:09

You forgot, OSHA-approved facilities for the birds and the bird workers, Gov.

Immigration might have to step in to check passports on the chickens...many restaurants serve "Greek chicken salad", for example....how do we know that the chickens are really Greek?

We may need a national chicken czar...to make sure that there is a level playing field out there....cabinet level, for sure.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 5:12

Chickens, over great periods of time, have been naturally selected in such a way that they are now genetically predisposed to cross roads

Albert Einstein:
Whether the chicken crossed the road or the road crossed the chicken depends upon your frame of reference.

Ralph Waldo Emerson:
It didn't cross the road; it transcended it.

In my day, we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Someone told us that the chicken had crossed the road, and that was good enough for us.

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 5:19

To clarify the proposed law, I schlepped this over from the main story:

To house domesticated hens, Davidson County residents would need to apply for an annual $25 permit with the Metro Health Department. Roosters, as well as the process of breeding chickens, would be outlawed altogether....The proposal comes with several conditions, including: Hens must be kept in “predator-proof,” covered henhouses requiring building permits. Henhouses must be at least 10 feet from property lines and 25 from other houses. There can be “no perceptible” odor from the hens. Feed must be stored in containers with metal lids. No slaughtering of hens can take place on properties. Dead chickens would have to be removed “as quickly as possible” via the Metro Public Works Department....Finally, to ease concerns of cockfighting, the bill prohibits the training of chickens for amusement, sport or financial gain."

No odor? No slaughtering? No cockfighting? Where's the fun in all that?

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 5:21

Let’s hear it from Gas Bag One and two; serr8d and yogi.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 5:22

Living in a rural area and Not in Antioch, I don’t have any problem with chickens. I really need to hear more about this subject, to have an informed opinion.

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 5:24

How long before we get a change of topic? Chickens and their excrementitious side-effects are not a tasty debate subject....we'll choke this chicken for a while, but I don't see this lasting all day as a riveting subject for debate.

We could discuss Turkey.

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 5:29

Serr8d hates chickens, Captain Nemo, they are filthy, like hippies, and like the hippies, they are scared to fight the commies who have taken over Amerika. Serr8d loves chickenhawks....like Dickless Cheney and Junior Bush....he hates chickens, however....especially Kosher chickens....the man is an anti-henite.

By: dargent7 on 10/27/11 at 5:32

L'ner: Off-Topic div. of the Mental Defectives, now come to order...
How about that Herman Cain ad where his campaign manager gets a close-up SMOKING?
And Cain's pic is errie the way he smiles.
Guy's insane.
Like Bachmann, Perry, Romney....yet one of these fools could become President.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 5:33

That is true Loner about serr8d and yogi will tells in his childhood when he was young, that the chickens were different and not communist.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 5:37

I hear that Cain was seen smoking pizza dough with school children.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 5:37

s/h/b heard

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 5:42

Here is that ad if you have not seen it.


By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 5:46

Yeah, I saw the ad, Darge....effin' weird!

Here it is, for those who missed the smokin and the jokin'.....


The link also has a parody of the ad....funny stuff....but still troubling.

Cain's sly smile looks sinister, to me...Cain is just jiving our white @sses, is what I get from the ad....crazy like a fox, this Cain dude. The Pie-man is in it for the dough.

So where are Cain's former lovers and love children? Let's roll out the dirt now...or save it for the general? This guy acts like quite the cocky cocksman...crowing about past glories...strutting across the stage...like a blue-ribboned black chanticleer. So, how many hens have been smitten by this rooster's testosterone-heavy style and manner?
Any chirpy little chicks running around the country with Cain's DNA?

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 5:49

Republican presidential hopeful and former pizza empresario Herman Cain has seen a spike in popularity as the 2012 race heats up, making him a prime target for our late night comedians.

On Monday night's "Conan," Cain got spoofed for something he said during an interview with David Gregory on "Meet The Press" Sunday -- that the electrified border fence he suggested implementing was actually "a joke."

Ohhh, we get it now. Because the idea of injuring potentially countless numbers of people just because they're from another country is funny, right? Good one, Cain!

Watch Conan have some fun with the soundbite in the parody above.

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 5:52

Sorry, Cap'n, I posted before seeing your link to the ad.

That wasn't pizza dough that Cain was smoking, Captain, he was smoking a pepperoni blunt...."Herb" Cainabis for Prez! A pizza in every pie-hole....a doobie for every pizza-lover!

With Cain, we might see Cannabis as an additional pizza topping.

Cain's my man...go "Herb"!

By: dargent7 on 10/27/11 at 5:56

Cain was just on FOX & Friends (I have to watch as a condition of my parole) and he DEFENDS the mgr. smokin' sayin', "It was only the last 5 seconds..."
And, for those who haven't seen it, his close-up smile is indeed sinister.
He wants that White House, badly.
Between him, Bachmann, and Perry, they're all psycho.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 6:00

No problem Loner, as long as we get the message out about the insanity that has infested the GOP.

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 6:01

These TP-GOP hopefuls are all trying to be funny....The Pie-man's electric border fence was just a joke....Perry says that the birther thing and the secession talk were just jokes too....Niggerhead Mountain was just having fun with black folks...no harm meant. It's all supposed to be hilarious....heh, heh.

They should leave the comedy to the pros...we tried using a joker as president, Junior bush failed to make us laugh. These hopefuls are not nearly as comical as Junior Bush was.

If the TP-GOP wants a comic in the White House; they should nominate a working professional comedian....not any of these half-baked jokers.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 6:03

I am afraid that if promises to legalize Mary Jane, Loner will vote for him. lol

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 6:06

I think that Romney will get the nod...Cain is going to step on some sort of banana peel...my crystal balls are clear on that....Cain will be not be able to avoid it....the race card will be played when the shit hits the fan....according to my crystalline spheres of clairvoyance.

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 6:08

Cainabis for Prez! He's smokin', baby...he's smokin'!! Pass that joint over to me my friend...don't bogart it.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 6:15

I consider Romney to the more intelligent and more toward the center.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 6:16

You said a poo word Loner. ;-)

By: treehugger7 on 10/27/11 at 6:23

Romney is the only one who isn't batsh** crazy. What is wrong with these people!?!

By: bfra on 10/27/11 at 6:24

Nashville is looking like a 3rd world country, more everyday. Let this chicken law pass, and it will start "smelling" like one. Bennett & Evans know of people in their districts with chickens (illegally) & have done nothing. Good law abiding councilpeople there! Isn't that abettin?

By: dargent7 on 10/27/11 at 6:39

L'ner: Do check out the other thread in TCP, of a police stop that turned into a search warrant, and the two were growing marijuana in their bathtubs...!
I think taking Botany 101 will eventually come in handy.

By: dargent7 on 10/27/11 at 6:43

Romney is an adherent to the "religion" of Momonism.
Known as, "The Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints".
Their belief system is no difference than Hare Krishnas and Scientologists.
You want this "mentality" in the White House in charge of nuclear warheads?

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 6:48

I'll check that story, Darge...could explain the "filthy hippie" thing...the bath tub was a grow tub....good clean weed, no doubt.

I have to share this with all the board..I'm also posting on this board:


CBS censored one word in one of my posts, they used **** instead of my word. I left the following comment:

by new_york_loner October 27, 2011 8:39 AM EDT
In a reply to jtdev1, I used the scientific name for the human genus and species and incredibly they substituted ****, as the name for our human genus. I left a second comment expressing my outrage for such a silly bit of censorship...but it has yet to appear.

Things are getting out of hand with this sensitivity-empathy thing....sheeesh!

Shall we rename our species: Hetero sapiens? This is quite ludicrous, IMO.

The NCP is a great place to post...they give us lots of leeway.

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 6:54

Mormons think they are heirs to the lost tribes of Israel and their holy writings refer to non-Mormons as "gentiles"...that's whacky stuff in 2011, when apartheid Israel is armed with hundreds of nukes, in a hostile region...and the POTUS thinks he is a member of the Chosen Tribe....that's a huge conflict of interests, baby.

Romney has made the required pilgrimage and donned the Jewish headwear and prayed at the Wall...he'd make an excellent vassal to the Jewish Overlords in the Promised Land....Armageddon, dead ahead.

By: sidneyames on 10/27/11 at 7:03

Chickens are for farms, not for the suburbs or cities. And they are not clean. They are nasty and make a lot of noise. NO, No Chickens in coops in the city -- or free range! Let your council person know your vote on this. We do not need livestock issues in the city or suburbs.

By: wataboutbob on 10/27/11 at 7:04

Seems to me that anyone wanting to raise farm animals would want to live in the country.

But my question is why does the city believe they deserve to receive a $25 annual licensing fee for allowing people to keep chickens? It's not like the city is spending any resources for the accomodation.
What's next, a license to keep your canaries or tropical fish? Maybe a $5 charge every time you want to use your grille or take a bath.
Either allow or prohibit but stop squeezing out every penny you think you can!

By: dargent7 on 10/27/11 at 7:12

Momonism is also NO different than Islam and what Muslims believe.
All crazy, nonsensical, psycho-babble.
I can't wait for Romney to be put to the test and asked what he thinks of Muslims.
On the other side of the coin, what Christians believe, eg., Adam and Eve, talking snakes, bad apples, Emmaculate Conceptions......we're all lost in space.
The whole game plan down here (Earth), is unwinnable.

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 7:12

Amen, Bob....and Sid is even making sense...full moon, or what?

Darge, I left a comment on the pot grower bust article.

By: Moonglow1 on 10/27/11 at 7:20

Moonglow1: Loner: Nashville is the home of Correction Corporation of America the author of the Arizona immigration law so chickens are incarcerated chickens policed by right wing guard dogs. Perhaps CCA will build a prison for chickens funded by taxpayer $$$ as is the case with human prisons.

Herman Cain was a lobbyist for the past 10 years. The Washington outsider is a big time insider and a champion of smoking in restaurants. He is a right wring nut like the others running on the tea nut ticket

Did you see the police brutality in Oakland against the Occupy group. A veteran was seriously injured (a cracked skull).

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 7:21

Jews consider Christianity and Islam to be heresy...heresy upon heresy is still heresy, according to the folks who wrote the Old Testament...Mormonism is heretical Christianity and Christianity is heretical Judaism. Judaism is probably a heretical form of some ancient belief too.

Sadly, in the 21st century, the world is caught up in expanding Holy War....we are screwed, IMO....the idiots & A-holes vastly outnumber the cooler heads. As Cornholio has prophetically exclaimed, "The streets will run red with the blood of the non-believers!!"

Look at the TP-GOP field of contenders for POTUS...all would-be excellent Cornholios.

By: Moonglow1 on 10/27/11 at 7:31

Moonglow1: I've enjoyed the "ancient alien" series on the history channel. Could be that all religions came from "the stars. ". We may even be the product of genetic engineering. The Republican candidates need to be re-engineered. They must have been "inoculated with more "alien" genes than the rest of humanity. Perhaps that is the reason for Herman Cain's wacko head shot at the end of the smoking ad. He's chock full of alien genetics.

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 7:36

Excellent post, Moonglow. Are we talkin' "Chicken Auschwitz" in downtown Nashville? Sounds like a terrible idea.

So, Herman wants to bring back smoking in restaurants? Good luck with that, Mr. Cain. Most folks are very happy with smoke-free restaurants and bars...especially the workers in those places. It's a law we can all live with.

But hey, if Cain says OK to Cannabis, he's got my vote....but he could be a reneger too.

The cops shot a "projectile" at the veteran, in Oakland, according to reports...was it a tear gas grenade, shot from a police grenade launcher? The cops went nuts...as they are prone to do when given license by the mayor...the mayor has to go!

Serr8d claims the protesters are dirty hippies...this Iraq war veteran does not fit that description. This man went to war to protect our right of free speech and assembly and to extend those rights to the Iraqis; look how the Oakland Police treated this man.

BTW...Where is old Serr8d today?

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 7:48

I think serr8d got arrested. He slipped in as one of the 99% demonstrations to start a riot and got nabbed by the cops. ;-)

By: Moonglow1 on 10/27/11 at 7:51

Moonglow1: just in, the Occupy Nashville group is being evicted if they do not vacate by 8 pm. Unfortunately there are only about 50 people in the group. Point is there seems to be a concerted effort by "the ruling class" to portray Occupy as trouble makers and hippies. I hope everyone continues to protest.

Also check out other Nashville news. The Hutton Hotel cancelled a Anti-Sharia conference and now the head of the conference is demanding The Hutton honor the commitment to book the conference. All the TP luminaries would be in attendance including the nuts that burned down the mosque in the Right Wing town of Murfreesboro.

I hope the Hutton will stand on principle and refuse to host these extremist fringe characters.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 7:54

By: Moonglow1 on 10/27/11 at 8:31
Moonglow1: I've enjoyed the "ancient alien" series on the history channel. Could be that all religions came from "the stars. ".

Maybe you should ask yogi about the little green men he has seen.

By: Moonglow1 on 10/27/11 at 7:58

Moonglow1: good one Captain Nemo. Serr8d is a "closet Occupier. " One of the 50 dirty hippies at Legislative Plaza. Perhaps if lucky, he will be incarcerated in one of many CCA taxpayer funded prisons. Perhaps in Rick Perry's Texas home of the grand executioner. I hear they are running specials at Wal Mart on Electric Chairs.

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 8:09

serr8de has a big closet, and many secrets lives. lol

By: Captain Nemo on 10/27/11 at 8:10

Got to go now.

By: Loner on 10/27/11 at 8:12

Not a single commutation...Perry is a Christian; they love the death penalty...without it, there'd be no Christ....Christ never condemned the death penalty, he embraced it, Moonglow. Of course, Christ packed a sword, according to these nutjobs....and hated Muslims and Arabs of all faiths.....Jesus loved WMD too....and the apartheid wall etc.