Up for Debate: Water-snow park clears final vote

Wednesday, April 18, 2012 at 12:54am

What do you think of the water-snow park, and the tax break that goes along with it easily clearing final vote with no deliberation?

73 Comments on this post:

By: BenDover on 4/18/12 at 9:43

I wish they had a comment counter on the main page. Then at a glance you could see where the debate was taking place and join in if you like. Kinda like the old Nashville Digest site. I think it's the same ownership isn't it?

Also same screen login would be nice rather than having to traipse down the path of the login and back-track to the screen you would like to comment on (and then refresh).

Also returning to the latest page of comments that you have not yet read would be nice rather than being deposited back on page 1 after every comment.

By: Loner on 4/18/12 at 9:50

ATTN: NCP Webmaster:

Having a board reserved for us "regulars" , like the Up For Debate feature, is a great idea....it's a particular place for particular people to congregate.

The "topic of the day" is generally addressed here, but we soon go off into spin-off areas and fresh news of the day usually enters the conversation...this is a good thing, not a bad thing...IMO.

Having said that, there are enough issues out there that, in my opinion, the Up For Debate board could be offered a fresh topic every day, not a duplicate of something being discussed on a main board for the topic.

Perhaps, this board should be a completely open forum, no suggested topics are offered by the NCP...the posters decide on what they want to discuss....again, just a couple of friendly suggestions. I appreciate this site.

Anyone else have any suggestions for the Webmaster and Editors of the NCP?

By: Loner on 4/18/12 at 9:52

Ben, I posted my 10:50 before reading your 10:43.

I agree with all of your suggestions.

By: BenDover on 4/18/12 at 9:55

They should reinstate the LTE page since d'argent is going to need something to distract himself when his Redwings cough blood at the hands of the Predators on Friday.

By: yogiman on 4/18/12 at 10:02

Since they're the owners of the business (site), Loner, they can use it any way they want to. Everyone should accept them as presented, otherwise, just [stay home] and don't post on the site.

By: Loner on 4/18/12 at 10:03

Bringing back the LTE's is a good idea, IMO...but I think that they should keep this Up For Debate board too.

They used to have nationally known columnists like Jeff Goldberg on this site, years ago....in fact, that's how I found this place...I was responding to a Goldberg rant about the US-Israel relationship....the rest is history....you can blame it all on Goldberg.

By: yogiman on 4/18/12 at 10:05

If you're an Air Force fan here's a good show. Okay, I know it isn't the "subject" of the day, but heck, what is?


By: Loner on 4/18/12 at 10:08

No doubt, the NCP can do whatever it pleases with this site....they have done some radical things in the past...at one time, Ben Dover, Nemo, myself and several others were banned and the archives expunged of our posts...that was under Clint Brewer's reign of terror. Clint is now a big shot consultant....guy's whacked, IMO.

The Nashville City Paper is a gracious host...my suggestions are just that, suggestions...not "demands"....so cool it with the BS, Yogi....thanks.

By: brrrrk on 4/18/12 at 10:14

The quote of the day from Captain Obvious......

By: BenDover on 4/18/12 at 10:20

Oh... Brewer... the vertically challenged cue-ball with that plump grinning mug and clownish bow tie.

He took the whole Lou Grant thing to the next level. Our own little Horace Greeley Bonaparte.

What a tool.

By: BenDover on 4/18/12 at 10:26

I swear if this picture popped up for me every time someone did a google search for my name there'd be cease and desist letters going out the next morning.


By: Loner on 4/18/12 at 10:29

Back to the topic:

If I were writing the headline on this topic, I'd write: Snow Park - or -Snow Job?

No deliberation and absolute faith, based upon a single report from a single source: the University of Tennessee Center for Business and Economic Research?

I Googled that prestigious-looking name and found out a few things:

Here's a listing of their prestigious staff:


Very impressive-looking.

Seems like the CBER has been putting a lot of time into analyzing Families First...the TN welfare program. Here's the URL for the data pile they have amassed on welfare for individuals and families:


I have not waded through the data, but on the surface, it appears that CBER is in favor of corporate welfare, as in the case of this proposed Snow & Water Park....but when it comes to welfare for families and individuals, they have a different view....that sort of welfare is in need of "reform"...but the corporate kind is OK.

I assume that the lawmakers and business community tell the CBER which fish to fry.

By: Loner on 4/18/12 at 10:37

LOL, Ben...Brewer has that round honest face...the rosy cheeks...and that bow-tie. Perfect facade for an intellectual midget on stilts....a tool indeed. And he's now got a top position on some council, board or in guvmint office, if I recall...he was employed by a "think tank" for a while....Brewer in a think tank is oxymoronic, IMO.

Thanks for that image, Ben....it gave me a good laugh...he looks a little like Curly Howard....without the talent....nyuk...nyuk...nyuk.

By: BenDover on 4/18/12 at 10:38

Yeah... I remember the group. Bill Fox and his crew were the state income tax shills who kept whipping up faux 'statistical' necessities for giving the state access to our pay-checks.

As for the water park... if Dolly's behind it I'm for it.

By: Loner on 4/18/12 at 11:13

Whoah...wait a minute...as long as this is a Dolly Parton deal, then...OK.

But I'm puzzled. Dolly Parton wouldn't try to work a corporate welfare angle...Dolly believes in paying her fair share of taxes...are we sure that Dolly's behind this?

I mean Dolly would not rob Peter, to pay Paul. She would not shift the tax burden onto home-owners and the working folks, as a deal like this might do....she's a class act....I think that Dolly may be personally out of the loop on this. Some underling must have come up with this idea.

By: Loner on 4/18/12 at 11:32

Well, I gotta run, Ben et al.....going to get my beloved DJ-5 Postal Jeep....here's a link to a parts site w/photo of what the breed looks like:


What's not to love about a machine like that?

See ya!

By: yogiman on 4/18/12 at 11:35

for a set of interesting questions, go to: townhall.com/columnists

Very interesting when you [look at] the legislators in office today.

By: BenDover on 4/18/12 at 12:29

I'm a lot more into the local cronyism and graft now since I got my down-town condo, loner. Listening to the peeps in the suburbs whine about their taxes when we need to be making 'investments' in the city is becoming quite tedious. lol

By: yogiman on 4/18/12 at 1:46

Condo? In the city? BenDover, we may agree in several issues on this site, but there ain't no way I'd move into a 'downtown' condo. I like living in the country too much. I can walk out and look into the stars at midnight and see them. Listening to the different noises around my farm is like country music to me. Before my road got so residential a deer would come up to my house and look in through the window. They're all gone now. Too many news homes built on this road and too much traffic but I'm still well back off the road.

Regrettably, I approaching that stage of the game I'm going to have to sell out and move out. I just hope I never reach the stage of having to live in a nursing home.

By: BenDover on 4/18/12 at 2:44

I'm on the lookout for a farm too replace my Nippers Corner house. I'm tired of paying these damn metro taxes on my other house just so those uppity urbanites can keep improving their condo values at my expense.

By: yogiman on 4/18/12 at 3:49

What might be your specification on a farm you might want, BenDover? Ironically, I'm a real estate broker but I've been slowed down in the business for several years. I have a cousin in Pilkerton Realtors in Brentwood I would recommend if you don't have one looking for you.

By: pswindle on 4/18/12 at 8:50

Get your ears cleaned. I heard that speech and he said, "My Grandfather served in WWII and he went to school on the GI Bill." The GOP has selective hearing.

By: yogiman on 4/18/12 at 9:14

Did we hear different speeches, pswindle, or did he accidentally leave a word out in his comment.,