Up for Debate: What is good barbecue?

Friday, July 5, 2013 at 1:26am

What makes good barbecue? Is it pulled pork, chicken, brisket ... ? Sauce, thick or thin, white or red? Slaw on the side or on the sandwich?

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120 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 7/5/13 at 4:23

This is where yogi will tell us, it is in the eye of the beholder.

By: govskeptic on 7/5/13 at 4:49

Texas style Beef briskett-slow cooked! Nothin better.

By: yogiman on 7/5/13 at 5:19

Agreed, dumba$$. And you, too, govskeptic. Except you left out the word [beauty], dumba$$.

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 6:14

gov, I agree. I do love BBQ beef a bit better than pork, but I never turn down good pulled pork BBQ! I love Rendevous Ribs in Memphis.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 6:14

Hog Heaven near Centennial Park has an awesome white BBQ too.

By: yogiman on 7/5/13 at 8:26

We must mostly have vegetarians on this site. Or most of them are "store bought" eaters and don't know what [good cooking] means.

By: yogiman on 7/5/13 at 8:33

An interesting article for those interested:

www.sodahead.com/united-states/whos-you-daddy-whos-your-momma/blog-232489/?page3

By: bfra on 7/5/13 at 8:33

Once yogi puts his inane brainless blob garbage on the board, it is pretty much ruined for the day!

By: BenDover on 7/5/13 at 8:42

Martin's down in Nolensville is hard to top in this area. The brisket taco is amazing.

My hometown back in GA has a place called Piggie Park which has the best pulled pork sandwiches I've had; but I'm sure I'm partial because I grew up on them. Their homemade Brunswick stew is amazing.

Bacon Wrapped Shrimp and Beef Tips are always favorites at my house. Cook it slow so the bacon doesn't catch on fire... then when the bacon is cooked dab it with sauce [3 parts Coke, 1 part mustard, 1 part ketchup and a little hot sauce] and crank up the heat just to caramelize the sugars in the sauce... mmmm.... dang, I might have to make that this weekend.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 8:45

Ben, the bacon wrapped shrimp sounds amazing! You're making me hungry!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 8:47

There's a good place in South Chicago called George's Ribs. It's in a bad neighborhood so you call in your order before hand then go pick it up and make sure you do it before dark. The hassle is totally worth it - they have some of the best rib tips I've ever tasted.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 8:50

http://www.yelp.com/biz/georges-rib-house-harvey

By: BenDover on 7/5/13 at 8:53

That sauce is one my dad used to whip up and as long as you put it on after the meat is done and then caramelize it so the sugars don't burn up totally during the cooking it's delicious every time. I usually use Louisiana Hot Sauce because I have it around. I don't like Tabasco as much in Bloody Marys so I usually buy Louisiana; but a little of any hot will work in the sauce... I've even used Taco Bell 'Fire' sauce in a pinch.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 8:56

I like Louisiana Hot Sauce the best two. Second choice would be Pete's.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 8:57

OMG, s/h/b too. I'm not sufficiently caffienated.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 8:59

Ben, I was just watching a show yesterday that emphasized the importance of not putting the sauce on too early because it'll burn up. You are obviously an experienced grillmaster. :~)

By: yogiman on 7/5/13 at 9:03

Drink another cup, B2, but don't put no sugar and cream in it and maybe it'll wake you up.

By: yogiman on 7/5/13 at 9:07

It's interesting to know you're Obama friendly, bfra. Mind telling me why you support someone in that office whom you actually have no idea who in the hell he is?

By: BenDover on 7/5/13 at 9:08

As long as the sauce isn't really high in sugar it's OK to put it on Early. I marinade steaks in Dales and they do fine. And marinade chicken in Italian Dressing too and that works great; but the Coke and Ketchup in that other sauce have so much sugar in them they burn totally up in the cooking process so they are little more than char if you don't put them on at the end.

When I grill pork chops though it's always just a little salt and pepper for me. Some people like use a fruit glaze but, to me, chops really are best naked especially over charcoal... mmmm... that grill will be a-fire this weekend. ;)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 9:13

Ben, I mix Italian Dressing and honey as a chicken marinade. It works pretty well. I also marinade skirt steak in lime juice, olive oil, cumin and garlic. I put it in a zip lock bag and let it marinade for at least an hour - the lime juice tenderizes the skirt steak and it just falls apart when it's done.

By: BenDover on 7/5/13 at 9:16

I'm going to try that Blanket. I hate always passing over some of the tougher cuts of meat when my mom would do so many delicious things with them. Thanks for the suggestion!

By: 742180 on 7/5/13 at 9:18

Tex's Bar B Q on Foster Av Nashville serves truly wonderful BBQ's and is the closest thing we have to a good ole East Texas BBQ joint. They opened back in the 70's LONG before any of the others, and it is far and away the best AND the best value in town. Some folks are gettin' a little pricey with their Q. You ought to try this place if you want know the taste and feel of the Piney Woods. (East Texas)

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 9:19

Sure! Cuts of meat such as skirt steak just require a different method. I guarantee it'll change your opinion of skirt steak! BTW, you can use it for tacos, quesadillas and fajitas or just eat it on its own.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 9:20

742180, I do like Tex's BBQ! That place is good! I think they get overlooked since they are off the beaten track.

By: yogiman on 7/5/13 at 9:20

I hope you all had a great 237th birthday blast for our nation yesterday. And I hope we all have a 238th birthday next year.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 9:22

Ben, do you have a smoker as well as a grill?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 9:28

http://www.chow.com/recipes/10922-grilled-corn-with-cayenne-lime-and-cotija
Grilled Mexican corn on the cob - it's addictive!

By: budlight on 7/5/13 at 9:44

Tofu!

Grilled veggies!

Grilled pears, peaches. Grilled bananas in the peeling. I heard one chef talking about grilled avocados. Sounds interesting.

I'm not much for grilled seafood or meats.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 9:46

Grilled veggies are awesome and I've had grilled peaches - yum. Never tried grilled bananas - that sounds interesting.

By: Kosh III on 7/5/13 at 9:49

"Grilled veggies!

Grilled pears, peaches. Grilled bananas in the peeling. I heard one chef talking about grilled avocados. Sounds interesting.

I'm not much for grilled seafood or meats."

Yummm. Plus zucchini grilled. I don't eat meat or any animal. Go Vegan!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 9:49

I make grilled eggplant too. I slice it into 1/2 thick pieces then salt it down and let it sit for about 20 minutes. That takes a lot of the juice out of the seeds. I then grill it brushed with sesame oil and balsamic.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 9:50

Grilled zucchini so so good! I love grilling onions until they have that nice charred/carmelized flavor!

By: PKVol on 7/5/13 at 10:01

For good barbeque (barbecue, bar-b-que, bar-b-cue, bar-b-q...), you should use a smoker. I find hickory wood makes for better pork and chicken while mesquite makes for better beef. I think beef has way more flavor on its own than pork or chicken and mesquite does not impart as much flavor in the smoking process, hence my choices of wood for each meat.

IMO, sauce is a personal taste, just like salt & pepper, therefore, I don't think it should ever be cooked onto the meat. If it is served warm, you can add what sauce you desire.

I used to think Famous Dave's bbq was very good, but either my palate has changed, or their smoking methods have changed. I think Jack's serves the best variety of meats that are all better than good. This is a tough task to get so many different meats cooked so well.

I cook a mean pork shoulder, with a lot of great tasting bark (the best part of smoked pork, also IMO). I usually smoke about 6, 3 lb pork roasts at a time and then feast for a couple of days and then freeze the rest to enjoy later. It is a solid 24 hour process from start to finish, but worth every minute. I'm getting better at chicken and cooked my first turkeys for Thanksgiving and Christmas last year. I learned a lot from #1 to make #2 much better, so I'm looking forward to Thanksgiving again this year.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 10:07

PK, I agree that the best flavor comes from a smoker. I would love to try some of the pork shoulder!

By: budlight on 7/5/13 at 10:13

Blanket, the person talking about grilled bananas (public radio) said to grill them on all sides in the peeling until it is totally grilled all around. Peel it. Serve it with some nuts and chocolate or other topping. She said it is creamy and awesome.

I'm curious about grilled avocado. Going to research it.

While in North Carolina at my sister's she served cold Swedish oatmeal. Awesome. Made it with oats, vanilla greek yogurt, almond milk, apples, pecans and dried cherries. OMG. Awesome and nutritious!

Going to work now.

By: budlight on 7/5/13 at 10:14

By the way, have to forward this for D7 in case he's here today:

By: budlight on 7/4/13 at 8:09
y: dargent7 on 7/3/13 at 5:13
Don't know where to start.....Egypt? Who cares?
I'm more concernered whith the Police staking a DUI checkpoint(s) and having a "no refusal" clause....from Weds. to Sunday...5 days.

D7, most responsible people don't drink and drive. It's the irresponsible jerk offs who think they can drive drunk and then kill innocent families. If they catch one drunk driver and save one family from saddness and sorrow wrought by a drunk driver (or stoned on pot or meth), I'm all for it.

If it were not for irresponsible people we would not need these check points. Hell, if everyone was responsible, we wouldn't need rules or laws. BUT, there you go. A few crappy law breakers make it bad for all of us. Happy 4th. The fireworks are booming in antioch tonight. No sleep in this town.

By: .45carry on 7/5/13 at 10:15

My first choice for Nashville barbeque is Whitts. Second choice would be Famous Daves. I prefer it served naked, with a liberal dose of Texas Pete's Hot Sauce and cole slaw.

A few years ago, Whitts offered a beef barbeque, and it was damn good. They discontinued the beef due to lack of sales....I still miss it.

By: bfra on 7/5/13 at 10:24

Whitts is good, their sauce has a lot to be desired.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 10:36

I like NC barbeque too. Heck, when it comes to barbeque there's not much I will turn down!

Does anyone here care for Jim & Nicks? I had some good BBQ out in the 'Boro from Slick Pig. Their chicken is really amazing!

By: yogiman on 7/5/13 at 10:39

Sauce is like politics, B2; it depends on who's eating (thinking) it.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 10:40

bud, so when the banana is grilled, is it someone congealed when you remove the peel? I bet adding chocolate and nuts would be really good! I work with someone who moved here from Brazil and she told me about grilling avocado too. Avocado is technically a fruit and in Brazil it's used more as one would use a fruit. I've had avocado sorbet at Whole Foods and it was surprisingly good.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/5/13 at 10:55

I have been meaning to tell you all, that I talk with Loner on Monday. He said it has been wet at camp, but he is having fun.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 10:56

I'm glad he's still having a good time, Nemo! Although that doesn't surprise me. ;~) Did you have a good 4th?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/5/13 at 10:59

Yes I did Blanket, thank you for asking. How about you?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 11:02

Yes, mine was good too. Thanks. :~)

By: Captain Nemo on 7/5/13 at 11:05

My daughter is coming in from South Carolina for the weekend.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/5/13 at 11:10

That's nice!

By: Rasputin72 on 7/5/13 at 11:13

Nemo.....Why don't you feed her steak,when she gets off the bus?

By: bfra on 7/5/13 at 11:24

Nemo - Glad Loner is enjoying the retreat & hope you & daughter have a good visit. Supposed to be pretty this week-end and is very nice out today.

By: yogiman on 7/5/13 at 11:30

Very nice today? Where in the heck are you at, bfra? I've received an overflow in my mop bucket several times and it's still raining.