Up for Debate: Wine bill killed

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 11:52pm

Do you think Tuesday's House committee vote that likely killed the wine-in-grocery-stores bill for this session was more a reflection of the voters and General Assembly at large, or of the influence of lobbyists?

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139 Comments on this post:

By: Captain Nemo on 3/13/13 at 7:56

Loner said it is time to start honking horns.

The man with the rimmed mustache aka yogi heard; there are geese that are here usurper in the White house.

By: bfra on 3/13/13 at 7:57

Nemo - Dumbass said rimmed, not "trimmed".

By: Captain Nemo on 3/13/13 at 7:59

That is right bfra. LOL

Loner caught it and I have pick up om(sic) it

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 7:59

yogi eats shit-filled turkeys on his holidays. Further proof that he isn't too bright.

By: Loner on 3/13/13 at 8:01

Oh, don't be a wuss, Bn....suck it down!

But seriously, I agree, Bn, most homemade booze is rather swill-like...like a lot of things in this life, it's best to leave some things to the professionals.

The people might consider giving up the Guvmint booze and switching over to locally grown kind bud....TN is supposed to be "the greenest state in the land of the free"....free the herb...liberate the medicine.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/13/13 at 8:01

I bet he plays with Jughead’s, Little Boy Blue too.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:03

Loner, homebrewed beer is very good once you figure out what you're doing. I made some excellent stout, nutbrown ale and porter.

By: yogiman on 3/13/13 at 8:03

How do you trim yours, bfra?

By: Loner on 3/13/13 at 8:04

I really do not care to hear about Yogi giving mustache rides....or "rimming", as he calls it...this is a family site...think of the CHEEEELDREN!!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:04

I'm very particular when it comes to wine. I prefer the heavy reds like red zin, cab and malbec. I doubt I could make something I would drink.

By: bfra on 3/13/13 at 8:06

yogi - dumbass, if I had one, I wouldn't "rim" it. Get some sense before you open that crap hole of yours!

By: Captain Nemo on 3/13/13 at 8:07

By: yogiman on 3/13/13 at 9:03
How do you trim yours, bfra?

Another lame come back, from a limp old man.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/13/13 at 8:08

By: yogiman on 3/13/13 at 8:03
How is my mustache rimmed?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:09

By: yogiman on 3/13/13 at 8:03
How is my mustache rimmed?

I would venture to guess sheep.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:11

And all this silliness coming from a fool who wants to "educate" us on Constitutional law because he's "edited" the constitution.

By: Loner on 3/13/13 at 8:11

My son-in-law makes some pretty good beer/ale/stout....he's been doing it for years and he's very meticulous about it. I have tasted some stuff that others have brewed and it was not that hot. Homemade dandelion wine is very hard to find; it has a very distinctive and unique flavor; haven't had any since I was a wee lad....if you come across it, try it.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/13/13 at 8:12

You know we will pay for all of this attention given to yogi. The crazed and jealous monk will demand equal time. LOL

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:13

I wonder if yogi "italianized" the Constitution while he was "editing" it.

By: yogiman on 3/13/13 at 8:13

Sorry I'm not a perfectionist as you think you are, bfra. I depend on my spell-checker too much.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/13/13 at 8:13

Oh Burn Blanket LOL

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:14

Loner, successful homebrewing does take practice. The darker, less hoppy brews are not as temperature sensitive as pilsners. I never ventured trying to brew pilsner or would I have an interest to. I like malty beers over hoppy ones anyway.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:15

LOL, Nemo.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/13/13 at 8:15

By: yogiman on 3/13/13 at 9:13
Sorry I'm not a perfectionist as you think you are, bfra. I depend on my spell-checker too much.

Translation;

I wish I was smart like you bfra, but I don’t know how to work spell-check much.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/13/13 at 8:19

The old rimmer tried to home brew once with a microwave. It was vaporized, just like with the wet dog.

By: yogiman on 3/13/13 at 8:20

B2,

If you like grape wine you can make your own even with your intelligence. Use a large can of frozen grape juice in a gallon jug; add 3 cans of water; add sugar to taste and a half tsp yeast.

Cork the jug and put a airline into a glass of water. I use a 1/4 inch copper tubing and bend it over to where it enters a glass of water.

When it quits bubbling it's ready to drink.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:21

yogi, I don't drink hillbilly wine. It's probably part of what's ruining the half brain you have left.

By: yogiman on 3/13/13 at 8:21

An interesting speech to congress you anti-gunners should listen to:

www.wnd.com/wnd_video/best-7-minutes-on-gun-control/

By: Loner on 3/13/13 at 8:24

Bn, try the Concha y Toro Cabernet Sauvignon...it's from Chile and it is an excellent value.
I think that Conch y Toro also puts out a Pinot Noir and a Malbec....all great.

I prefer white wines these days; New York State wines especially...and some Canadian wines as well...the Niagara Wine Region crosses the border between NY and Canada...the Niagara Region is quite different than the Finger Lakes Region...different soils and the big lakes, Ontario and Erie, mitigate the local climate in a favorable way...just a tad.

I live right on the border between the Finger lakes and the Niagara regions....perfect location for a wine-loving old hippie.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:26

Loner, I have tried the Concha y Toro Cab. It's a great value! Have you tried Apothic Red? That's another wine for under $15.

By: Jughead on 3/13/13 at 8:27

My weewee needs daylight.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/13/13 at 8:32

So open your mouth Jughead.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:34

Loner, I've never tried any wine from the wineries in NY. I'm not sure if I could even find it here.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:34

I do like Cakebread Chard.

By: Captain Nemo on 3/13/13 at 8:35

I have Blanket and they are very good.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:36

Franciscan Chard is pretty much up my alley as well.

By: bfra on 3/13/13 at 8:37

jughead sounds like that potty mouthed ole boy that Brewer finally got rid of a few years back.

By: Loner on 3/13/13 at 8:38

No, Bn, I have not tried Apothec Red. Have you tried a NY state grown Vignoles? It is my personal favorite lately...especially the late harvest Vignoles...a Vignoles ice wine (iced wine?) is superb, but hard to find...like nectar of the Gods & Godesses....reminiscent of Joe Dragon's grandfather's sweet dandelion wine...that was truly incredible stuff.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 8:39

Loner, there's not a great selection of wine here so no, unfortunately I haven't had the pleasure of trying any. If I have the opportunity I definitely will! Maybe when I travel out of state I'll be able to sample it.

By: grid on 3/13/13 at 8:49

Definitely the lobbyists that killed it. Darn it, most of us want to buy in grocery stores!

Forgive the advertisement, but I encourage people to check out Beachaven Winery in Clarksville. It's right off I-24. They have great wines, a good selection, and good prices. You can patronize a local business, too. I don't work there, or have any financial interest...just a loyal customer.

By: Loner on 3/13/13 at 8:54

Here links to three of my favorite wineries...they all make an excellent Vignoles...you might be able to order directly online:

Niagara wine region...

Leonard Oakes Estate Winery:
http://www.oakeswinery.com/

Finger lakes region....

Keuka Springs Vineyards....
http://www.keukaspringwinery.com/

Lakewood Vineyards...
http://www.lakewoodvineyards.com/

Rooster Hill Vineyards...
http://www.roosterhill.com/

I have visited all of those wineries on multiple occasions and take my word for it, they make great wines...especially the Vignoles....tell them that New York Loner recommended their wines to the wine-deprived people of Tennessee.

By: Jughead on 3/13/13 at 9:03

My weewee needs Chateauneuf Du Pape.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 9:06

grid, it's always nice to hear of good wine stores! I have my favorites as well. :)

By: Loner on 3/13/13 at 9:13

It appears that we have attracted another annoying troll....one with a wee wee issue....we have a Birther, a Grey-Poupon-stained tycoon wannabe and now we have more cracked pottery to deal with: Jughead, the penis-obsessed one....the Troll Roster is growing here, at the Up For Debate board.

I'm starting to wonder if the Golden Age of Online Posting has already passed....the internet is now infested with trolls, hackers and hasbara...and the initial novelty of online posting has started to wear off...just my view.

By: Loner on 3/13/13 at 9:23

Schlepped over from the main article on the wine bill:

By: Magnum on 3/13/13 at 10:08

Someone asked for the "no" votes. Here they are:
• Voted “no”:
o Rep. Dale Carr, rep.dale.carr@capitol.tn.gov, (615) 741-5981
o Rep. Jimmy Eldridge, rep.jimmy.eldridge@capitol.tn.gov, (615) 741-7475
o Rep. Richard Floyd, rep.richard.floyd@capitol.tn.gov, (615) 741-2746
o Rep. Steve Hall, rep.steve.hall@capitol.tn.gov, (615) 741-2287
o Rep. Matthew Hill, rep.matthew.hill@capitol.tn.gov, (615) 741-2251
o Rep. Andy Holt, rep.andy.holt@capitol.tn.gov, (615) 741-7847
o Rep. Larry Miller, rep.larry.miller@capitol.tn.gov, (615) 741-4453
o Rep. Mike Sparks, rep.mike.sparks@capitol.tn.gov, (615) 741-6829

*Committee member Rep. Sherry Jones was not in attendance for the vote.

Start ringing their bells...give 'em hell!

By: Blanketnazi2 on 3/13/13 at 9:23

Costco Proves Republicans Wrong By Paying a Living Wage and Watching Profits Soar

http://www.politicususa.com/costco-proves-republicans-wrong-paying-living-wage-watching-profits-soar.html

Costco CEO Craig Jelinek openly supports raising the minimum wage to $11.50 an hour, “At Costco, we know that paying employees good wages makes good sense for business. We pay a starting hourly wage of $11.50 in all states where we do business, and we are still able to keep our overhead costs low. An important reason for the success of Costco’s business model is the attraction and retention of great employees. Instead of minimizing wages, we know it’s a lot more profitable in the long term to minimize employee turnover and maximize employee productivity, commitment and loyalty. We support efforts to increase the federal minimum wage.”

By: Jughead on 3/13/13 at 9:50

My weewee has never sniffed a cork.

By: Jughead on 3/13/13 at 9:51

My weewee loves a Loner.

By: brrrrk on 3/13/13 at 9:59

You know I've often wondered (given the uber-Christian nature of the state) why there seems to be such approval for the selling of wine in grocery stores. Sure, beer I get.... beer is beer and almost everyone buys some at one time or another. I found it a bit confusing until I heard one of my uber-Christian co-workers say, "I'll be glad when they start selling wine in the grocery stores so I don't have to go to a nasty liquor store to buy my wine". That's when I had my "aha" moment. This whole thing really isn't about the consumer, because if it truly was there would be a push to do away with liquor stores altogether. No, this whole thing was about people not having to feel yucky about going to (or being seen going to) the local liquor store.....

By: bfra on 3/13/13 at 10:06

brrrrk - Maybe that is the Bible Belt syndrome. However, growing up in a dry county in a small town, where everybody knew the local bootlegger, I have seen many a supposedly upstanding bible thumper darken or leaving the bootlegger's door.

By: brrrrk on 3/13/13 at 10:10

bfra,

Reminds me of the old joke concerning Mormons (which, by the way was told to me by a Mormon).....

What are the two things that Mormons don't recognize....
1) The immaculate conception and
2) Another Mormon in the liquor store....

:-)