What do you think an all-female jury will mean for the trial of George Zimmerman?
Ben sounds like "I'll take my marbles & go home". If so, good, because you haven't been able to back up anything you put on the board.
Of course Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty Mr. BenDover, and I certainly wouldn't want it any other way. I am open to hearing any and all actual evidence, and haven't made any decision regarding his innocence or guilt- I'm merely pointing out that you obviously have. And yes, that is closed-minded.
Neither have I made a decision, because I don't have that right. I merely point out & believe, had Zimmerman followed orders & done his job, a life might have been saved.
If you libtards were intellectually honest, you would admit that blacks ARE the problem. Welfare-lovin, gangbanging, gun-totin', dope dealing rappers who laugh at you PC morons who support "diversity."
Ben when you don't answer the question directly, I think it means that you’re reasoning is on flimsy ground.
Here is my list of unanswered questions, Ben.
Ben, if Zimmerman had not put himself into that situation in the first place, we would not be having this discussion. Now would we?
1-So Ben you think that thugs fight with bare fist and civilized men uses guns?
2-So Ben, by your 11:02 you are saying that Zimmerman knew of Martins pass and this is why he confronted him and then killed him?
3-Ben, are you describing Martin or the flea?
4-Ben sees bruised knuckles and a bloody nose, then thinks thug?
Zimmerman see hoody and see a crime taking place
5-So are you saying that Zimmerman knew all of this before or after the police told him to stop?
If Martin was such a violent gang-banger, why didn't he have a gun?
Jughead actually said, "blacks ARE the problem."
I'm assuming that includes Allen West, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, and other conservative black people, doesn't it? I'm surprised this forum allows your openly racist comments, and I hope you get some help for your psychological issues before you hurt yourself or someone else.
HoundDog on 6/21/13 at 12:13
"I'm assuming that includes Allen West, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, and other conservative black people, doesn't it?"
But like Paula Deen, Juggy doesn't see these people as "Apes" because they're the good ones....
Blanket, only gentlemen have guns, according to Ben. Thugs use their fist.
HoundDog, Jug brags about being "well-armed" too. He's a prime example of why we need stricter gun laws that include background checks.
It really must make Ben feel superior to have the flea backing him on this.
If it wasn't for the gun shows, the flea could not get a gun legally.
Captain Nemo said
"It really must make Ben feel superior to have the flea backing him on this."
Nah...... Ben has no problem thinking he's naturally superior to everyone else... he has money, that makes him superior (in his mind) no matter what...
I was being sarcastic brrrrk. Ben must feel like slim having the flea as an ally. LOL
brrrrk - IMO, people that "really" have money, don't broadcast it on a discussion forum.
Really would like to hear from gdiafante, slacker, house & others that haven't posted here in a while. All three named always had something interesting to add & it wasn't made up.
If I don't get a chance to say it later today, I’ll say it now. I hope you all have a good weekend.
bfra: Are you looking for backup for the "Me Too" statements from the 12:30
group of like minded? "Attack of the Posters"-sounds like it could be a
OK, Houndoggystyle, you are right. Only 99% of blacks. My apologies to the sane and productive conservative blacks. Keep up the good fight despite being ridiculed by the other 99% for working hard instead of leeching off the gov't.
Nimrod: I hope your huevos finally detach after years of shrinkage and waste. That explains why you are a girly-man liberal, though!
No gov. just miss any poster that had been here for quite a while then just stopped posting. I do know several get upset with the troll turds, so maybe that is the reason.
By: bfra on 6/21/13 at 10:41
Nemo - From the other thread, make that the old COW that doesn't know anything about having a calf. :-)
bfra, I cracked up when I read this one! LOL
MamaG - From her comments, that's the truth LOL.
Yep! Bye you guys, have a good one!
You too MamaG & say Hello to that son for me!
Uh, Captain Obvious......
Sorry guys... work called.
So in a nutshell the consensus is that I'm avoiding the question and have not defended my position. To the contrary I am the only one who has defended his position with numerous links and concise outlines of the important evidence. You guys are just unwilling to accept that the absolute most likely scenario is that it happened just as Zimmerman described and that he shot a little thug who was beating him to death.
Should Zimmerman have just let what he described as a 'punk' go while the police dithered? Hindsight says yes. The reason for the neighborhood watch in the first place though was that 'punks' had been breaking into houses in the neighborhood recently so I don't know. I think my return question that if Martin had killed Zimmerman by banging his head against the ground would it still be Zimmerman's fault is a clarion question.
Let's be honest though. The only reason this is a national media case is that what they originally thought was a racist white dude shot an innocent black kid and the PC and anti-gun zealots wanted to make hay out of it.
The fact that Zimmerman is actually an Hispanic from a multi-ethnic family who was defending himself a thug really ruins that narrative though.
Facts are facts. And thoughts are simply that; thoughts. Only Zimmerman knows what happened, we don't.
But what I saw on TV sure looked like Zimmerman was getting the hell beat our of him and is sure wasn't a child like the one being shown on the news.
Anyone who has had to serve on "Jury duty" knows the whole system is bullshit.
Anyone with a life tries to get out of it. Unless it's high profile like OJ Simpson/ M. Jackson and then you know you'll be on tv and write a book. So, it's a career move.
An all female jury for Zimmerman...? They shouldn't allow it. Not more than 9 of the same sex, out of 12
Zimmerman is a pig who, like a Bernard Gotez, shot someone he should of walked away from.
Yes, a tall, skinny black person wearing a hoodie can be scarey, that's why you get in your car and drive away. But, this dick-weed had a loadeed gun, so he grew a set of balls on the spot, and exazerbated a harmless situalion into a confrontation, and then death..
They'll get him for involuntary manslaughter and he'll serve 9 years...out in 4.
If he walks, they'll be race riots in FL and all across America.
Ben your entire 2:50PM comment is based on the made up tales you have put on the board today and everyone one them disputed & shown to be incorrect. You have the same problem every troll on this board has, you don't know when to realize you are wrong & shut up.
I'm sure the prosecutor for the DA's office has info that wasn't made public. He would have had to have some good evidence in order for it to move forward to trial. I guess we'll just have to see what that evidence is.
brrrrk on 6/21/13 at 11:57
Still no answer...... race aside, if you were being followed by an armed man that you didn't know, what would you have done to defend yourself?
brrrrk, no doubt he was yelling at Martin as well which would have made Martin feel threatened. If Martin were such a thug, why didn't he have a gun? I know he's not the innocent little boy that the media has portrayed him as being but you have to realize he has some angry guy with a gun following him. I agree with your question.
Everybody's talking about Zimmermans right to defend himself, what about Martin's rights? Martin had every right to be where he was and he had every right to defend himself....
I turn around and confront anyone who is following me, brrrk.
It would go something like, "why the hell are you following me?"... "we've had some break-ins in the neighborhood recently and you were acting suspicious and I wanted to make sure you lived here"... "Well I hope you catch the guy... I live here too".
But he didn't have the right to try to pummel Zimmerman to death... which evidently happened sometime before Zimmerman shot him.
BenDover said on 6/21/13 at 3:26
"I turn around and confront anyone who is following me, brrrk.
It would go something like, "why the hell are you following me?"... "we've had some break-ins in the neighborhood recently and you were acting suspicious and I wanted to make sure you lived here"... "Well I hope you catch the guy... I live here too"."
Ben must have majored in creative writing....
BenDover said on 6/21/13 at 3:28
"But he didn't have the right to try to pummel Zimmerman to death... which evidently happened sometime before Zimmerman shot him."
Give me a ****in' break... the kid had skittles and iced tea... and Zimmerman had a weapon that could kill Martin... and you're telling me that if it were you, you wouldn't do ANYTHING necessary to defend your life!?!?!?!?
And we don't know if Zimmerman was yelling threats, do we? After all, he had a gun.....and he ignored the dispatcher that told him not to involve himself in a confrontation.
Also, why would an unarmed man initiate a fight with an armed guy? That doesn't make sense, does it?
Here's Zimmerman's statement.
"Also, why would an unarmed man initiate a fight with an armed guy? That doesn't make sense, does it?"
Forget about sense.... Ben has convicted the kid of being black, pure and simple.
If Zimmerman were "pummeled" it could have been by someone who was scared for his life by some weirdo who was following him around yelling threats and wielding a gun.
I think your problem guys is that the media has been all to helpful with your confirmation biases.
BenDover said on 6/21/13 at 3:38
"Here's Zimmerman's statement."
We'll just wait for Martins statement then.... oh wait, we can't... how convenient, he's DEAD.
"I think your problem guys is that the media has been all to helpful with your confirmation biases."
Ben, you're missing the point... the fact is that there's blame on both sides... but the fact remains that Zimmerman escalated events by "writing a check his ass couldn't cash"... it's on him.
Ben hasn't offered any links to evidence presented the night of the incident. Check the dates, some as late as 2012. When it happened, I saw Zimmerman being escorted to jail, no bloody nose, no blood on his head, no black eyes. Guess Ben missed all of that.
If Martin had killed Zimmerman would it still have been Zimmerman's fault?
The only difference difference between you and Jughead is that Jughead at least has the guts to be up front about his racism.... and for that I'll give Jughead props. You're probably one of those slimy racists who talks all nicey nicey to his "black friends", but bad mouths them as a group when they turn their backs.
Ben, you go play WHAT IF, like you have done all day. I'm not into that, I like FACTS!