Letter to the Editor

Monday, December 27, 2010 at 10:05pm

[Placing art in the future SoBro roundabout is] the plan it sounds, and we already have [Musica at the Music Row roundabout] without any major traffic issues. It just took some getting use to, and I imagine the same for the new roundabout is true.

Many large cities have these roundabouts without [safety] issues, like Columbus Circle in New York City or Dupont Circle, among many others, in Washington, D.C.

I think this is a great idea as far as providing a link between the Gulch and SoBro. However, I think the biggest hurdle to further development there would be the proximity of the Nashville Rescue Mission. I am not sure that anyone is going to want to build a hotel with a rather large homeless shelter across the road when there are so many other available locations.

Posted by “chino”

145 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 12/28/10 at 1:57

I offered my advice and opinions on this issue yesterday....I was asked to shut up. Go screw! I hope that this farce vexes the city for a century...it's what you deserve.

By: dargent7 on 12/28/10 at 5:21

The Roundabout on Music Row is dangerous as hell.
It requires drivers to extend courteousy and have respect for one another.
Therefore, it's a nightmare.
Maybe when we all had horse and buggys it worked but now with everyone in a hurry and 5 streets merging two lanes each, I can't believe there aren't 10 pileups a day.

By: Loner on 12/28/10 at 5:50

Mornin', Darge.....it would poetic justice to see the city sued for damages in every motor vehicle accident that occurs at these dangerous anachronisms. The metro officials set up a needlessly hazardous situation, the city should be liable for the consequences.

Dealing with existing traffic circles built in the horse & buggy era is one thing, but deliberately constructing a traffic circle in the 21st century is quite another; especially when an attractive nuisance, in the form of a huge, gaudy piece of art is deliberately placed in the center of the rotating mass of confused and/or raging motorists.

Placing public art in such an unsuitable place tends to defeat the purpose of the art. Fully engaged drivers might get a fleeting glimpse of the art, by way of peripheral vision...is that the intent of the artist and the art committees?

Safe driving and art appreciation are two ingredients that do not mix well, especially when stirred vigorously in a roundabout.....this is a recipe for disaster.

By: govskeptic on 12/28/10 at 6:06

Of course it's a great idea, it's downtown and paid for with public
dollars. Music row piece was paid with private dollars, for some
type government concession I'm sure. Needs to be insured heavily
as at some point a collison will surely propel a vehilcle right into it!

By: dargent7 on 12/28/10 at 6:14

Morn'in Loner:
Get this...it's 15 degrees this morn, but there's a warming trend to the 60's by Friday. I've totally lost my Hawaiian tan. Been here 4 years this April.
The weather here is so up & down....20 degress above normal, then 20 degrees below normal.
The art tastes here are truly wild. The 5 nude bronze statues at the Music Row place are totally ugly.
Then you've got the "Ghost Ballet" monstrosity at 1st & Broadway (across the Cumberland). That cost $350,000.
Shame the May1st flood didn't rip it down.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 12/28/10 at 6:36

"Ghost Ballet" is a montrosity. Excellent description. And the roundabout is an awful idea. A roundabout in a high traffic area? Wow....

By: Captain Nemo on 12/28/10 at 7:12

Good morning


By: Captain Nemo on 12/28/10 at 7:17

You can blame Musica and the round about for Nashville’s bad drivers. The only flaw with the round about is that it requires people to think when navigating around it. And we know that thinking while driving is not one of Tennessee’s great achievements.

My biggest worry when it was built is that people would be gawking at the naked people.

By: yogiman on 12/28/10 at 7:19

Glad I don't come to Nashville anymore.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/28/10 at 7:20

Good morning Blanket. I view the Ghost Ballet as vortex into another dimension and Nashville is stuck in the 19th century. lol

By: Captain Nemo on 12/28/10 at 7:21

We are too yogi.

By: house_of_pain on 12/28/10 at 7:22

No more roundabouts, please.

By: slacker on 12/28/10 at 7:29

This new roundabout must be a panacea for the racetrack supporters.
Hi Nazi, hope you are well.

By: Captain Nemo on 12/28/10 at 7:33

From Thursday

By: yogiman on 12/23/10 at 10:54
Merry CHRISTmas to all, folks. I hope the next two years are much better than the last two, to all of you, because changes you aren't going to like are coming.
America is in deep trouble, folks. It is time to wake up.


By: Captain Nemo on 12/28/10 at 7:34

lol slacker

By: Captain Nemo on 12/28/10 at 7:35

Naked runner at the round about waving checkered flags.

By: serr8d on 12/28/10 at 8:40

That roundabout at Music Row is nice and functional; if it didn't have the distraction of statuesque nekkid bronze female parts it might be much better. I don't know the statistics for traffic accidents there, so can't speak to it's efficacy. If it's just there for looks, with very few traffic accidents? Then leave it alone. But as far as distractions go, there's a much more pervasive one out there...

I do know that most Nashvillians would drive better if their cell phones were firmly planted in their various nether orifices. Seldom do I circumvent that roundabout but I must dodge these distracted phonies every single day. A pox on them and their toys.

By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 8:51

serr8d - The cell phones and now they can also drive around, watching TV. The roundabout is a mess, which I totally avoid, after 1 time.

Morning all, hope you had a Merry Christmas and I know you had a White one.

By: dargent7 on 12/28/10 at 9:13

bfra: Carefull when you wish anyone a "White" Christmas. Sidiot will be all over you as a being a racist. (see also: Beatles "White" album).

By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 9:23

d7 - She would really have a spasm, if she sees my snowman. It is totally "white", because I didn't have time to dress it, before family started arriving.

By: Loner on 12/28/10 at 9:26

Back from my morning errands....as you may have guessed, my first post was before I took my meds.....I'm all better now.

The big snows hit East of us this time....NY City is about 400 miles from here....they got hit.....we dodged this last one.

Chino's comments, today's "LTE", were in response to my original post on the board @ this URL:


On that board, poboy66 and Chino indicated that my interest in this was "disturbing", as I do not live in Nashville. I was asked to mind my own business. Chino intimated that I was just a conspiracy theorist.

Apparently, the NCP Editors were somewhat enamored of Chino's comments.

Hey, I tried.

I facetiously dubbed this art-roundabout scheme, "The Nashville Demolition Derby". Metro wants to scrap the track at the fairgrounds. This is the new racetrack?

Your local ambulance-chasing lawyers, tow-truck operators and auto collision repair shops are looking forward to the inaugural green flag.......and the yellow ones too.

Again, I hope I'm wrong on this one; I do not wish for bad things to happen, just to prove that my cynicism and criticisms were warranted and justified.

Happy motoring...and drive-by art appreciation!

By: Loner on 12/28/10 at 9:38

OK. This IS Music City...let's try to make a buck off of this too.....here's my suggested first stanza...please add some more:

(Country and Western type intro with prominent steel guitar)


I'm Texting round the Roundabout,
I'm Steering with my Knees.
Cowboy in a Pickup Truck...Yellin' WTF
Yes, we're doin' the Roundabout Squeeze

(sound of honking auto, truck and bus horns with screeching tires and breaking glass sound effec here)

By: house_of_pain on 12/28/10 at 9:42

Loner, it has a good beat, and I can total my car to it.

By: brrrrk on 12/28/10 at 9:48

dargent7 said

"The Roundabout on Music Row is dangerous as hell.
It requires drivers to extend courteousy and have respect for one another."

Boy, ain't that the truth! Course, what can you expect from people to whom a four way stop is a problem in logic and getting 1 second ahead is worth putting someone elses life in danger.

By: house_of_pain on 12/28/10 at 9:55

*speeds by brrrrk with middle finger extended*

By: brrrrk on 12/28/10 at 10:00

house_of_pain said

*speeds by brrrrk with middle finger extended*

Middle finger hell!!! I use my whole hand!!

By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 10:02

brrrrk - You pretty well summed up the majority of drivers, in this area. Then add, a cell phone in 1 hand, hand-held TV in the other, so Loner, they have to drive with their knees.

By: brrrrk on 12/28/10 at 10:03

Best bumper sticker ever.....

"Would you drive better if I shoved that cell phone up your ass"

Second only to.....

"Why do you think that you're able to drive if you can't even figure out the turn signals"

By: Loner on 12/28/10 at 10:03

I'll take that as a positive comment, House.

Two more stanzas...this is a work in progress...a disturbing work:

More Vocals:

Well, back in the day, when the buggy ran on hay,
A Roundabout sure was nice.
Back in the day, when the horse knew the way,
A Roundabout sure was nice.

(Sound effect: Horse hooves on dirt.....jingling jingle bells....horse laugh)

But that was then. And this is now.
You gotta ask who, when, where and how
The new Roundabouts came about....No doubt.
The wisdom is certainly in doubt. (cuckoo clock sound effect here)

(go to more steel guitar and fade out....)

By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 10:06

Plus add all the ones that don't speak or read English, so they have no idea what the road signs indicate (not talking about just "stop & yield" signs). Of course, there aren't many that pay any attention to "yield", anyway.

By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 10:13

off subject: Headline "Elton John becomes Dad", then goes on to talk about John"s husband. Wouldn't that make John, the Mom? just wondering!

By: Loner on 12/28/10 at 10:19

It's been over 24 hours now and still no answers to these reasonable questions which I threw out there yesterday. I'll post them here:

Will pedestrians be allowed to cross the roadways, in order to view the art up close and personal, or will the motoring public be the sole audience?

Has anyone consulted the Metro Police Department, to get their input regarding the wisdom of these lofty ideas?

Does the existing roundabout have a prominent distraction at its center and how many fender-benders have occurred there ?

Chino is painting a rosy picture here....why?

I now know that the existing roundabout has a distracting piece of art at its "epicenter" (its vortex)....no stats yet on the fender-benders there. Does your Metro Police Dept. keep stats on that and how do we access them?

By: slacker on 12/28/10 at 10:29

bfra, that is determined by the one that shaves their legs.

By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 10:32

lol slacker!

By: Loner on 12/28/10 at 10:34

I dunno, Bfra. That kid is one lucky SOB.....or not.

The men who man the pulpits will have sermon material on this one.....the ladies who preach from pulpits will find some warm & fuzzy stuff in this heart-warming story.....or not.

I don't think that mainstream, fundamentalist, pulpit-preaching pastors will approve of double paternity partner pops..... even for a pop star papa.

By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 10:37

slacker & Loner - Just thought it odd to refer to John as Dad, then refer to the other one, as his husband.

By: Loner on 12/28/10 at 10:39

That is odd, Bfra..."partner" is the better, more accurate term, I believe.

By: Loner on 12/28/10 at 10:44

Terms like "wife", "husband", "bride", and "groom" should be used when talking about opposite -sex (heterosexual) marriages, IMO. Same-sex unions may require some altering of the English vernacular...we can handle it.

By: Loner on 12/28/10 at 10:55

In cases like this, the child has two dads. If raised by two lesbians, the child has two moms....I think....it's an individual call, I suppose. As long as it is a safe and loving home, I'm all for it.

By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 11:01

Loner - IMO, partner would have been better term.

By: slacker on 12/28/10 at 11:07

bfra, that pisses off the cowboys, they claimed the word ''partner'' during the Roy Rogers era. Or maybe it was ''pardner?''
I suggest using: my ''snuggle buddy''

By: BenDover on 12/28/10 at 11:08

I like Musica. I usually tie the steering wheel off to the brake peddle with my belt so I can use both hands when circling it and taking pictures.

By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 11:09

slacker - eeeew! I wouldn't want to snuggle buddy with Elton John, I don't care how much money he has.

By: slacker on 12/28/10 at 11:09

lol Ben.

By: brrrrk on 12/28/10 at 11:10

Loner said

"As long as it is a safe and loving home, I'm all for it."


By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 11:11

slacker - I do believe that was "pardner". Heard Gene Autry's, Rudolph song several times this year.

By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 11:16

I also go with the safe & loving home, but what about the emotional repercussions? Children are very impressionable.

By: bfra on 12/28/10 at 11:17

slacker - Should have said "pardner", with a Texas twang.

By: Loner on 12/28/10 at 11:19

Ben reveals the secret to the TN auto-pilot.....the old trouser-belt trick....once the belt comes off....well, you know the rest. A prehensile trouser snake can be damn handy when driving around in a traffic circle swirling with jerks....so long as the steering wheel is not too cold.

By: brrrrk on 12/28/10 at 11:23

bfra said

"I also go with the safe & loving home, but what about the emotional repercussions? Children are very impressionable."

I'm not sure what your implications are here, but ask the same question of the relationship between Bernie Madoff and his son.... ANY parent can be both a positive and negative influence.