Letter to the Editor

Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 5:09pm

What can we do when innocent children like Christina-Taylor Green are killed senselessly? We can do all we can to prevent the next senseless murder. That means adults need to act like adults. We need to end the wild proliferation of weapons; politicians spewing lies, hatred and intolerance; and people acting as if the Bible and the Constitution give them the right to abandon reason and go on the warpath.

We know the things we need to do if we want our children to live in a safer, better world. We cannot allow the NRA and fearmongering politicians who speak and behave like fascists to rule our lives and endanger innocent children. If we want to live in a safer world, we need to make a pledge to protect the innocent and put an end to the bullying we see everywhere around us.

How can this happen? The answer is simple. How did we end child sacrifice, witchhunts and slavery? We decided as a society that such things are not acceptable. Today we need to decide, as a society, that things that endanger innocent children are not acceptable. This means telling politicians like Sarah Palin to tone down their overheated rhetoric. It means telling the NRA to back off. It means telling politicians that we are not willing to send our children to die in wars to “secure” foreign oilfields or to “support” allies of ours who practice systematic racial and creedal injustices against their own citizens.

And we need to abandon the lie that we were attacked without cause on 9-11. (Christina-Taylor Green was born on Sept. 11, 2001.) We were attacked on 9-11 because our government constantly interferes in the Middle East because of our “oil interests,” and has aided and abetted racist actions of Israel that have caused millions of Palestinians to suffer terribly for over 60 years. Many completely innocent Palestinian women and children have died as a result. If we consider how we feel when one child is killed unjustly, we should be able to understand how Palestinians feel when their children are killed unjustly, or are forced to live in giant walled ghettos and concentration camps while other people constantly steal their land and water.

Now the fear, anger and despair caused by 9-11 and two decade-long wars are causing some Americans to go on the warpath, or to surrender to intolerance and practice injustices against Muslims, even those who are law-abiding American citizens. If we want our children to grow up in safety, we cannot allow our government to kill Muslim women and children, or aid and abet acts of systematic racism that are practiced against them. We have the power to change our world for the better, and an important step is to change our culture and society to not allow things that endanger innocent children. 



Michael R. Burch

Nashville 37221

79 Comments on this post:

By: budlight on 1/12/11 at 3:08

Another point: When a crazed muslim doctor shot 14 people ON A MILITARY BASE, did the commander and chief show up? NOT. This Arizona incident plays right up his domination of all, left wing agenda. Commander in chief should have visited personally everyone that the crazed muslim doc shot. Did he? nope. Did the civilian who took down the doc get a medal of honor from Obama? I don't recall seeing where the 5'1" female got commended. Did I miss that Obama declaration of heroism?

pswindle said:
The white southern men can not stand to have a black president. I wonder if he had been white would all of this hate have started. I think not. I have friends that have said terrible thing about our President. As bad as Bush was and stupid, I still respected the office.

Swindle, the Majority of voters are not black, so it was the white vote that elected this man. AND the hate started with the left more than 2 years ago when they hated BUSH and of course we all know what Clinton did to disgrace the office of the President - literally and figuratively.

And people are too busy trying to get a job to worry about his color. BUT HE HAS COST US A LOT of jobs and money, plus our image in the world has not gotten better. He's made it worse.

By: budlight on 1/12/11 at 3:08

Another point: When a crazed muslim doctor shot 14 people ON A MILITARY BASE, did the commander and chief show up? NOT. This Arizona incident plays right up his domination of all, left wing agenda. Commander in chief should have visited personally everyone that the crazed muslim doc shot. Did he? nope. Did the civilian who took down the doc get a medal of honor from Obama? I don't recall seeing where the 5'1" female got commended. Did I miss that Obama declaration of heroism?

pswindle said:
The white southern men can not stand to have a black president. I wonder if he had been white would all of this hate have started. I think not. I have friends that have said terrible thing about our President. As bad as Bush was and stupid, I still respected the office.

Swindle, the Majority of voters are not black, so it was the white vote that elected this man. AND the hate started with the left more than 2 years ago when they hated BUSH and of course we all know what Clinton did to disgrace the office of the President - literally and figuratively.

And people are too busy trying to get a job to worry about his color. BUT HE HAS COST US A LOT of jobs and money, plus our image in the world has not gotten better. He's made it worse.

By: budlight on 1/12/11 at 3:10

Amy thanks for logic in your post. Excuse my double post. Hit button twice. oops. The guy was going to kill -eventually - and he didn't care WHO , just THAT he killed. It is not Palin's fault and probably not obama's either.

By: AmyLiorate on 1/12/11 at 3:13

Yogi, some would say that people from Tennessee volunteered even before this land was separated from North Carolina. They went over the hill and rounded up some red coats at Kings Mountain. That is one they are proud of.

As for parties, well Yogi I don't try to distinguish them from each other too much. Look at the issues and just see who is wanting more control over people instead of more freedom.

2011 brings us a congress that will be entertaining if nothing else.

By: budlight on 1/12/11 at 3:13

Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”

They are going to "punish" CA cause the new governor is nixing their welfare and free "higher education". brrrrk, let's see how nice they act when the free stuff is non-existent.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/11 at 3:16

Let's not lose sight where all the "tough talk" American presidents use:
Teddy Roosevelt: Speak softly and carry a big stick". cir 1900
Pat Buchannan: "Lock and load". Presidential run (failed)
GW Bush: "All I say is, "Bring it on". cir 2003 (moron)
GW Bush: "Wanted Dead or Alive. cir 2003 ( still a moron)
John McCain: "Walk softly and carry a big stick". Presidential run (failed)
Sarah Palin: "Lock and load". VP run (failed)
Obama has to appear tough. Otherwise the right would label him a "feminazi".

By: pswindle on 1/12/11 at 3:18

Now that Palin has come out with her statement, I waiting for our senators to come out with their brillant statements.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/11 at 3:23

BudLite: Obama has two daughters, ages 9 and 12.
I think this hit particularly close to home.
I'm quite sure it took Mr. and Mrs. Obama's breath away to learn of a girl shot as a standing by, innocent pedestrian.
As the Obama's travel, they bring the girls. Some nuts want the president as the target, but they could end up hitting Michelle or either, or both of their two girls.
To a psycho, it's not in the details who they kill.
You bet they will show up. It's personal.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 3:47

Give me a break Palin...

In her newest video she equates the treatment that she's now receiving, by using the term "blood libel", to the killing of Jews for the false accusations of them (Jews) killing Christian babies for their blood.

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 3:54

I agree with you on Mr. Cain, Amy. I'd bet you a buck he would show his birth certificate at the drop of a hat.

I have read many of his articles. He's seems be an up-front man. I would seriously consider him unless something negative came before the election.

By: Antisocialite on 1/12/11 at 4:01

Amy, I'm going to let your unfounded accusation and insult slide this time, but for the record, nowhere did I even come close to saying that 'one group of political mindsets is responsible for the actions of an insane person' as you implied in your last response to me (go back and check).

As for your attempt to paint me as 'turning a blind eye to the truth'... well that is just ridiculous, and you know it. A decent example (which you can't be bothered to look up, quite a telling mindset on how your opinions are formed, incidentally) would have consisted of, at the very least, a complete sentence. This is something that even budlight did for the 'example' I took him to task over. Additionally, your 'All I did was point out that no one side is wearing a halo' comment seems oddly out of place since I actually acknowledged that Obama rhetoric was also questionable.

Finally, I have to point out that you have not addressed my real point, which was that those on the left are not nearly as vitriolic or militant in their rhetoric as the right. Obviously there are instances of it on both sides, but there is absolutely no comparison in volume, no matter which use of the word volume you choose to apply. And honestly, I can accept it much more from a political candidate during an election season where an allegory to war is semi-appropriate, as opposed to the hateful folks in pundit-land who continue and amplify the violent rhetoric on the 24 hour news cycle well beyond the election season. By the way, how many of those pundits are right wing; or here's an even better point, how many viewers/listeners do those pundits reach compared to left leaning commentators (that's what Fox is always touting right, number one in viewership)?

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 4:02

Loughner has been said to be a psychiatric patient. I didn't see any thing mentioning he had been treated on the problem.

In this day and age, they have been known to gain mental control on those patients as long as they will take their medicine. I can understand his parents feelings, but didn't they know of his situation?

I know, at 22 they have lost control of his life but there must be other factors to consider.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 4:14

Antisocialite said

"By the way, how many of those pundits are right wing; or here's an even better point, how many viewers/listeners do those pundits reach compared to left leaning commentators (that's what Fox is always touting right, number one in viewership)?"

Good points. In talk radio land the ratio of right wingers to left wingers is about 100 to 1. And very little of that has to do with economics... at least of the station. As for Fox, their numbers are skewed to begin with because of availability. Generally speaking, I don't know of a single cable/satellite provider that doesn't have Fox as part of their standard package... but there are several areas of the country where MSNBC is treated as a premium channel that you have to pay extra for.

By: dargent7 on 1/12/11 at 4:47

McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. That isn't remotely America, soli, or otherwise. He'd be "qualified" to be president on a "technicality".
Obama was born in Hawai'i, in 1961, which as a state, is American soil.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 4:49

dargent7 said

"Obama was born in Hawai'i, in 1961, which as a state, is American soil."

But he's still a Democrat and still black.....

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 5:15

Palin said the media "should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn."

Pot - Kettle, Kettle - Pot.

By: AmyLiorate on 1/12/11 at 5:34

You also have to take into account that pundits saying something do not equate to a President saying something. However we seem to be in agreement that both sides often use vitriol and other tough talk. You are taking the approach that the lessor of two evils is better than the larger one. OK, that's fine with me. I still will just call them both evil.

I remain on my other point - you will go insane trying to find logic behind Loughlans actions and trying to lump him in with one group or link his pulling the trigger to something some pundit said or that came from any administration.

Time will tell.

Your point about the left not being nearly as militant is good on the surface but spend some time reading. I don't think ALF and Earth Liberation Front can be called right wing extremist. They build bombs and start fires causing millions in damages. To date no one has been killed but I've watched some of those Whale Wars shows... it's not like some lives aren't at risk.

Can you put the likes of the Weather Underground and SDS in with the right wing? People have died.

As much as I detest so called Black Ops or whatever under the radar SOG campaigns go on in the name of democracy... the violent actions of left extremists are just as detestable. Supposedly the SOG functions under the oversight of bi-partisan committees in D.C. Still, the lessor of two evils is an evil.

By: brrrrk on 1/12/11 at 5:50

AmyLiorate said

"As much as I detest so called Black Ops or whatever under the radar SOG campaigns go on in the name of democracy... the violent actions of left extremists are just as detestable. Supposedly the SOG functions under the oversight of bi-partisan committees in D.C. Still, the lessor of two evils is an evil."

Ok, I'll bite.... and honestly, I understand where you're coming from..... BUT.... how many conservatives have died (let's say in the past hundred years) as a result of the "violent actions of left extremists"? Compared to the violent actions of right extremists? For both sides to be equal, both sides must be..... well.... equal.

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 5:55

dargent7,

Was you there when he was born in Hawaii? No? Then how can you claim he was born there?

As for McCain being born in Panama, his father was in service at that time, stationed in Panama, and his wife was there with him. Panama was a possession. I agree, it has been debated if McCain was legally eligible for the Office.

Now they are mentioned Romney, who was born in Mexico to parents who were Americans but living in Mexico. On that basis, what would make him eligible?

Simply being born in the United States doesn't legally qualify a person to the Oval Office. How can Obama be accepted to be a "natural born citizen" with a Kenyan father, in 1961, when Kenya was of the British Empire?

Read the laws of 1961. His mother couldn't give him American citizenship at that time.

And no

By: dargent7 on 1/12/11 at 6:19

If Romney was born in Mexico, he's ABSOLUTELY not eligible to be president.
But, his bio says he was born in Detroit, MI. Sadly, as I was.
So, his parents, like Obama's, just knew their little bundle of joy would one day become President, so they started the forgeries back then?
Where do you get your information?
I hear the US never landed on the Moon.
The Hare Khrisnas are certain they didn't.
Maybe you are a closet hare khrisna?

By: Antisocialite on 1/12/11 at 6:21

Remember Amy, the words I used were ' those on the left are not nearly as vitriolic or militant in their rhetoric as the right. It's very hard for me to take you seriously, when the only contemporary 'equals' to the right wing media machine you can muster up are ALF and ELF. Again, look at the viewership and listenership of right wing television and radio programming. There are literally millions of them every day and night, many whose only source of news is from these outlets. Now compare that with how many people get all their talking points from the ALF and ELF (hell, you can even throw in MSNBC, Air America, and Pacifica, which I'm willing to bet will be your counterpoint after my initial clarification in this post).

I'd also like to point out to anyone following that what Amy is doing here is a textbook move often pulled by those that would seek to obfuscate or sidetrack a discussion... it's called a straw man. We were discussing violent rhetoric and her previous post goes on a tangent and starts to identify fringe groups (the straw man), rather than the supposedly 'mainstream' ideas expressed on Fox and stations of their ilk. Why? Because it's obvious to anyone paying attention and being honest that MSNBC, Air America, etc have nowhere near the level of sustained militant rhetoric that the right wing outlets do. Please also remember that we are discussing current events here, so the Weather Underground and SDS examples are just ridiculously off the mark. Believe me, conservatives don't want to get into that era when it comes to right wing violence.

By: budlight on 1/12/11 at 6:59

dargent7 on 1/12/11 at 2:23
BudLite: Obama has two daughters, ages 9 and 12.
I think this hit particularly close to home.
I'm quite sure it took Mr. and Mrs. Obama's breath away to learn of a girl shot as a standing by, innocent pedestrian.
As the Obama's travel, they bring the girls. Some nuts want the president as the target, but they could end up hitting Michelle or either, or both of their two girls.
To a psycho, it's not in the details who they kill.
You bet they will show up. It's personal.

The guy who shot everyone is not a political person says his BEST friend. He's just a killer. I would never want my president or any member of their family harmed in anyway. I don't like obama's policies, nor his ideology. But wish him no harm.

By: Captain Nemo on 1/12/11 at 7:40

Shut up bud!

By: AmyLiorate on 1/12/11 at 8:41

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2011/01/jared_loughners_hate_came_befo.html

Just keep pinning the tail on that donkey Anti... don't worry, I won't spend my time defending any violent extremists regardless of their position on the spectrum. You can chase the poor loony kid from AZ all the way to the GOP HQ. Knock yourself out! (Ooops, does that have a violent connotation?)

I won't defend those arsonists, or anyone who is destroying other peoples property either. You can keep tooting your horn and paint conservatives with as broad, or narrow, a brush as you wish. Keep the gloss handy for your favorite pals. Just because there's a patina on the Weatherman's art doesn't mean it's off topic. Ayres hasn't recanted those actions has he? My money says Obama would have tea with him tomorrow.

Even people wearing rose colored glasses need to check their prescription once in a while.

By: yogiman on 1/12/11 at 9:42

No thank you, Amy. I'm not taking a sure loss bet.

By: Antisocialite on 1/13/11 at 12:39

Wow Amy, just wow... and here I thought you actually had some sense about you, obviously I was mistaken. Since you addressed exactly ZERO of my points this discussion is effectively over.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, since I pulled the rug out from under your straw man fallacy it it was only a matter of time before you devolved into ad hominem attacks.

Have fun continuing to not research your points, rest assured I will continue to deconstruct any other fallacious arguments you put out there.

By: AmyLiorate on 1/13/11 at 3:12

"fallacious arguments"

And to think all of this started out with "but I won't hold my breath for another example."

By: AmyLiorate on 1/13/11 at 7:00

I'm OK, you're OK... see the thread on 70.

Man, it's been a rough day I'm going offline.

By: Mike Burch on 1/22/11 at 2:39

In my letter I certainly wasn't condoning the 9-11 attacks. What happened was horrible and of course I grieved for the victims like all other Americans. I simply understand WHY we were attacked. As an analyst recently pointed out, 90% of the people at the State Department agree with Muslim imams who way the policies and actions of the governments of Israel and the US helped lead to the 9-11 attacks. Osama bin Laden clearly explained what led to the Twin Towers being attacked: he saw the US sixth fleet shelling the towers of Lebanon, killing innocent Muslim women and children.

Even Ronald Reagan, in a diary entry dated 9-11 (in the 1980s) mentioned that the US navy shelling Lebanon could be construed as an act of war. Reagan quickly realized his blunder and got our troops out of the region, but the damage had been done, and for 60 years our government has used every trick in the book to keep the Palestinians from attaining freedom and equal rights. So Muslims are understandably angry, and of course our government has given Israel billions of dollars in financial aid and advanced weapons. Israel uses our money and weapons to keep millions of people homeless, destitute and living on the margins of existence.

Americans who don't understand why we were attacked either don't know or ignore the simple evidence, which all the rest of the world examines with horror.

Mike Burch