Letters to the Editor

Friday, June 5, 2009 at 1:00am

We’ll take care of you later

Senator Max Baucus (D-Montana) might think it is funny to joke about how many police officers it will take to ensure the totalitarian status quo over health care in the United States, but I for one think it is disgusting. His weak-lipped platitudes about respecting the opinions of those he betrays for corporate blood money is insulting to those of us who know who his real masters are.

In order to ensure that Americans have second-rate health care, and will be forced into bankruptcy in order to receive it, he is fully prepared to arrest anyone who dares to ask that their contrary views be seriously debated. The land of the free and home of the brave, indeed.

The American public, we the people, are predominantly in favor of publicly financed health care. You, our servants, refuse to hear our demands. You, our servants, refuse to even permit our ideas to be seriously debated in the halls of OUR government. Obviously, there is no shame in your power-hungry world or you would surely know the wages of your sins.

Either allow the public's will to be done, or answer to them during the next primary season, the choice is yours. You can be sure that the video of any of you laughing at Baucus’ joke of turning the U.S. into a gulag state for the benefit of your corporate masters will be replayed in the form of political ads for your opponents. You better believe that we will empty our pockets, and donate every spare second of our time, to ensure that ALL of you who oppose the will of the people are forced from OUR houses of government in order that the well-being of the American people can be once again faithfully represented.

Jeremy Wilburn,
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316 Comments on this post:

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 8:28

Nemo,

"Yes it does slacker. I was surprised, but I was informed that while we were visitors, we still payed taxs."

How did they determine you were still paying taxes if you were visitors? Does England have a sales tax or something?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 8:28

Dragon, do you want one of these "illegals" spreading TB?

By: pandabear on 6/5/09 at 8:28

sorry chief, just couldn't pass that up...

...I know you can't see the facts for the "bushes"

By: pandabear on 6/5/09 at 8:29

...or is that "forest for the trees"

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 8:29

lol, panda! that's funny.

By: pandabear on 6/5/09 at 8:29

...or ocean for the debris...

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/09 at 8:29

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 9:26
Gdia,

"Can you imaging foreigners coming here and getting health care on Dragon and Chief's dime? They'd close the borders...lol"

They should ALREADY be closed...to illegals.

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I wonder if that is what the people of Iraq thing about us?

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 8:29

Panda,

No problem...you have your opinion on past Presidents and I have mine.

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 8:30

Blanket,

"Dragon, do you want one of these "illegals" spreading TB?"

No, I doubt anyone wants them spreading TB...which is ANOTHER reason why they shouldn't be allowed in this country...so the borders should be secured.

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 8:32

Nemo,

"I wonder if that is what the people of Iraq thing about us?"

Ok...they want us out, we leave.

Think that would work with illegal aliens here?

By: gdiafante on 6/5/09 at 8:33

No Chief, because you wouldn't want to pay for 12 million illegals being deported, would you?

By: timeout on 6/5/09 at 8:36

Some Israelis are glad that Obama will reign in, perhaps topple Netanyahu.

Benjamin Netanyahu can keep pretending it's just rain and Interior Minister Eli Yishai can continue berating the Obama administration for its "unacceptable" policies. National Union MK Michael Ben-Ari can keep shouting hysterically about our soldiers, and the settlers can keep putting us all in danger. But the issue has been settled in Washington.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1090367.html

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/09 at 8:36

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 9:32
Nemo,

"I wonder if that is what the people of Iraq thing about us?"

Ok...they want us out, we leave.

Think that would work with illegal aliens here?
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No chief. We were the illegal aliens when we invaded Iraq and we are still there.

By: pandabear on 6/5/09 at 8:37

So, I'd like to know something.

I hear all these horrid stories about how bad the British health
system is and yet Nemo and I both have personal experiences
to the contrary.

Maybe someone is lying...ya think ?

Let's see....it couldn't be the health industry 'cause they have our best interests at heart.
...I know this 'cause they're not interested in money, they're only interested in
helping people.

...it can't be the "pill" industry for the same reasons.

...the doctors are unquestionably out for our best interests and certainly aren't in
in for the money...I mean, would they let someone be in pain or die just because
of money....unthinkable !

...so, that's it. I'm sorry. I can't think of anyone who might wanna lie about this...

By: dnewton on 6/5/09 at 8:39

Nazi Pelosi has to go to the meetings because it takes a long time to discover the "lie". It is only after discovering the latest DNC talking points can the "lie" be absolutely disclosed.

By: timeout on 6/5/09 at 8:39

Israel is controlled by religious fanaticism

Not very long ago, during Rabbi Meir Kahane's racist rantings, the late writer and journalist Amos Elon gave me a copy of a letter Lord Rothschild sent to Herzl in August 1902. In the letter, Rothschild explains why he refuses to support the establishment of a Jewish state in the Land of Israel. He writes that he "should view with horror the establishment of a Jewish colony pure and simple; such a colony would be Imperium Imperio; it would be a Ghetto with the prejudice of the Ghetto; it would be a small petty Jewish state, orthodox and illiberal, excluding the Gentile and the Christian."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1090366.html

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 8:40

good point, panda.

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 8:42

Gdia,

"No Chief, because you wouldn't want to pay for 12 million illegals being deported, would you?"

I would be a LOT cheaper than paying for their healthcare and their other government benefits...not to mention the lost jobs, wouldn't it?

By: Dragon on 6/5/09 at 8:44

One one will answer the question. If the Dems pass a law saying everyone MUST buy health insurance, who will buy the insurance for the 12 million illegals?

By: pandabear on 6/5/09 at 8:45

Thanks blanket.

chief, so that there is no misunderstanding, you should know that I
think we should kick out all the illegal immigrants today, without delay.

In fact, here are a few rules I think we should put in place and make
effective immediately:

1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools, no special ballots for elections, and all government business will be conducted in our language.

2. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote, no matter how long they are here.

3. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.

4. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, nor any other government assistance programs.

5. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

6. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT options will be restricted. You are not allowed to own waterfront property. That property is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

7. Foreigners may not protest; no demonstrations, no waving a foreign flag, no political organizing, no "bad-mouthing" our president or his policies. If you do you will be sent home.

8. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down and sent straight to jail.

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 8:47

Nemo,

"No chief. We were the illegal aliens when we invaded Iraq and we are still there."

We went in to take out Saddam...we did that. Afterwards, the country fell into chaos and we had to help until a working government was setup.

We have asked the government there if they want us to leave and so far they keep putting off our departure.

By: gdiafante on 6/5/09 at 8:48

Panda, people are partly to blame. Malpractice insurance is through the roof because of the ease with which one can sue for anything. I think that in order to completely fix the system we'd have to have legal reform as well.

That's asking a lot...as I've said before, we have let our "system", be it legal, healthcare, political, etc, become so archaic and easily manipulated/corrupted that what we really need a structural change across the board. That is change you can believe in...

In reality...baby steps...which is why I think Obama realizes this, but may be trying to do too much at once...but given the fact that as soon as Republicans get back in office we're going to regress even further, you can't really blame him.

By: pandabear on 6/5/09 at 8:48

timeout:
Hitler didn't like Jews either.

Why don't you post his stuff ?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/09 at 8:49

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 9:28
Nemo,

"Yes it does slacker. I was surprised, but I was informed that while we were visitors, we still payed taxs."

How did they determine you were still paying taxes if you were visitors? Does England have a sales tax or something?

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chief this should be obvious even for you. Air fare, hotel, car rental and fuel and so on. It was not free. Geezz

By: gdiafante on 6/5/09 at 8:51

Neither party wants to deport the fastest growing constituency in the country. Those are potential votes man!

How about we deport the politicians instead?

By: Dragon on 6/5/09 at 8:52

Chief/Nemo - England has a hefty VAT tax.

By: gdiafante on 6/5/09 at 8:54

Well one thing's for certain, England may have universal health care but it must not cover dental work.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 8:54

they tax their vats of beer?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 6/5/09 at 8:54

lol, g! you got that right! ha ha ha!

By: gdiafante on 6/5/09 at 8:54

No wonder the Irish hated them for so long.

By: pandabear on 6/5/09 at 8:56

gdia:
Hey, I wasn't comparing anything. I was just showing how the media, etc.
spread the "false" word.

You're exactly right. The health/legal thing is way out of wack.
Both sides are right and wrong at the same time.
I think it's always that way when good judgement takes second
place to "legal interpretation".

Common sense is not common and the "legal benders"
take all the advantage of that that they can.

Cops make a lot of mistakes, but cops are put in the position of making
more critical desicions in 1 week than most of us make in a lifetime.
Pull over the car. Approach the car. Stay just behind the driver.
Look for the hands.

It's all relative and only common sense and the law combined can produce justice.

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 8:59

Panda,

Sounds good.,

I have a few others:

1. Any officer of the law caught aiding and abedding any illegal alien or having knowledge of illegal alien and not acting on said information will be subject to a $5,000 fine and a 5 year federal imprisionment term.

2. Any state supporting illegal aliens with their tax dollars will be fined 5 times the amount in federal tax dollars until such time as the support ceases.

3. Any individual knowingly hiring an illegal alien will be fined $50,000 per illegal found and per each year said illegal was found to have been working for said individual. Further, said individual will be subject to a 5 year federal imprisionment for each illegal found working for them.

4. Any business knowingly hiring an illegal alien will be fined $50,000 per illegal found and per each year said illegal was found to have been working for said business. Further, the owner of said business OR the CEO will be subject to a 5 year federal imprisionment for each illegal found working for them.

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 9:02

Gdia,

"How about we deport the politicians instead?"

Well, considering that THEY would have to vote for that - I figure no chance, unfortunately.

By: Funditto on 6/5/09 at 9:02

gdia, i think you're right. what is up with that?

I am certain, id has never ventured outside tennessee and gets his "facts" about Canadian health care from rush, hannity and/or fox news.

I know several from both countries who have no complaints.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/09 at 9:03

I drank my pint of Guinness in England. The bartender said it was not the good stuff.

We asked him why. He said that it was produced in England. Still not sure why it was not as good. He answer was that it hag English water.

The bartender was Irish. lol

BTW: After dranking a pint of Guinness I was not hungry foe 24yrs. The stuff is filling.

By: pandabear on 6/5/09 at 9:09

chief:
Excellent.

By: timeout on 6/5/09 at 9:30

"panda", hitler didn't write for the Israeli publication, Haeretz. I gave you the links to the articles, which I QUOTED. You would appear less stupid if you check a link before opening mouth or typing words as the case may be.

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 9:38

Panda,

Sorry, I missed a couple:

5. Any illegal caught in the US is returned to his home country the same way they got here...with the clothes on their back. All material goods will be confiscated by the federal government as gain thru illegal means (similar to drug dealer confiscation of goods) to pay for their return trip home.

6. Any illegal who has a child in the US will be given the options of either to return to their country WITH the child or to give up the child to a legal guardian. If no legal guardian is available, the child will become the ward of Children's Services.

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/09 at 9:43

That so white of you chief.

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 9:45

BTW Blanket,

The likeness of Obama in the Great Pyramids of Giza? I know you were thinking anti-Christ, but I was thinking some may think possible reincarnation.

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 9:46

Nemo,

"That so white of you chief."

Thanks...I appreciate the compliment.

By: timeout on 6/5/09 at 9:50

There is more political opposition inside Israel to the rightwing government than there is in the US. Haaretz airs that opposition. If I said the things stated in Haaretz, I'd be compared to Hitler.

Oh wait, I already have been...........................

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/09 at 9:51

Then it is true, chief? Your post are race driven?

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 9:53

Nemo,

Um, no. But I am white. And I appreciate you taking notice.

By: gdiafante on 6/5/09 at 9:54

Nemo, you have to ask? Isn't all the "illegal" backlash race driven?

Would there be such an issue if half of England entered the U.S. illegally?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/09 at 9:56

I have never seen you chief. How would I know that your are white?

By: Captain Nemo on 6/5/09 at 9:59

By: gdiafante on 6/5/09 at 10:54
Nemo, you have to ask? Isn't all the "illegal" backlash race driven?

Would there be such an issue if half of England entered the U.S. illegally?
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gdia

The english could not hide from us for long. They talk fuunee. lol

By: brrrrk on 6/5/09 at 10:00

The writer is correct when he talks about Baucus and his "real masters", especially when you consider the following contributions to his 2005 -2010 campaign.

Securities & Investment $973,950
Health Professionals $769,141
Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $738,813
Insurance $699,725
Hospitals/Nursing Homes $450,826
Health Services/HMOs $429,400

And these are all in his top ten.... Baucus certainly knows on which side his bread is buttered. Unfortunately the American public is on the dry side of that bread.

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=2010&cid=N00004643&type=C&mem=

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 10:02

Gdia,

Yes as a matter of fact, I think there would be...particularly if the English coming here were getting free healthcare and taking jobs. Yes indeed.

Oh and BTW, if you think it is just the Spanish speaking people people want our borders closed to, I think you are wrong.

Is it so much to ask that people who want to come to this country start out by showing respect for our laws and obeying them by following proper legal channels to come here?

By: chiefpayne568 on 6/5/09 at 10:06

Nemo,

"I have never seen you chief. How would I know that your are white?"

Hence my appreciation for your ability to determine my race without actually seeing me.