Letters to the Editor

Monday, July 27, 2009 at 11:00pm

Won’t subsidize abortions

As a pro life citizen, I do not do support any business that supports abortion and providers such as Planned Parenthood and have asked my financial advisor to be sure none of my investments do as well. I have closed my bank account and changed banks when I found out my provider supported Planned Parenthood.

Now my tax dollars may be used to pay for abortions if the health care bill being discussed passes and there is not an amendment that explicitly forbids the use of tax dollars to pay for abortions. Such an amendment was just voted down.

Since abortion is mandated in the health care bill, every insurance plan will have to cover it and provide means necessary to obtain an abortion. This amounts to a bailout to the already profitable abortion industry.

I don’t want to be forced to subsidize abortions and I don’t think the government has the right to force its citizens to pay for a procedure that they vehemently oppose. Let Congress hear from you on this issue.

Susan Allen, 37188

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122 Comments on this post:

By: dargent7 on 7/28/09 at 5:41

I take it the LTE doesn't take kindly to abortions? The name "Planned Parenthood" says it all...PLANNED. It's also a woman's right to choose. I'd throw in some sex education, condom use, STD prevention too. The author probably admires Sarah Palin types who practice that tried and true, "Just Say No!" policy regarding sex that works so well with drugs. And Palin's unwed 16 year old daughter was having unprotected sex as well as Palin at 43 discovered at 11 weeks she was carrying a Down Syndrome child. They made the calls, thier right, but don't force that same decision on others.

By: house_of_pain on 7/28/09 at 6:42

People who don't have kids still have to pony up for public education.
People that drive to work still have to pony up for public transportation.
Etc., etc....
Life isn't fair. If you are against abortion, don't have one.

By: idgaf on 7/28/09 at 7:02

Never let a good crisis go to waste. That is what they said and that is what they have done and are doing to advance their agenda at a pace that has never been seen before without accounting or discussion.

7 dump that talking point, no one has the right to extinguish life. Not even your witchs which would be good for the country.

You want to kill a kid do it on your own dime.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 7:05

Good morning.

I agree with both dargent and house.

When I hear the phrase Pro Life I can't help wonder just what does it mean. Is the person that utters this slogan really mean that they are against the death penality, wars? Are they against choice, the right of others.

They keep bring up the term of preserving life, but what kind of life are they talking about? Intelligent life is not mention. Human life is not mention. When does these two factors take place. When does life become an intelligent humanbeing?

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 7:08

By: idgaf on 7/28/09 at 7:02
Never let a good crisis go to waste.

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That is what Chaney told Bush on Sept. 12, 2009. Lets go into Iraq.

By: Kosh III on 7/28/09 at 7:12

I don't want my taxes going to pay for killing Iraqi kids but that's fine with id isn't it? After all, they've already been born.

'no one has the right to extinguish life" except Republicans.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 7:13

From Yesterday

Blanket the hawk is doing fine. It took to the air on Saturday and once again it is the master of the skys.

By: dargent7 on 7/28/09 at 7:26

ID: What part of "A woman's right to choose", do you not understand, accept, and think is right?

By: dargent7 on 7/28/09 at 7:29

Kosh III: Exactly. These Republican wing-nuts think invading and blowing up a foreign country, complete with "collateral damage", is A-OK, if it suits USA interests, but aborting a 5 week old fetus that looks similar to a tadpole is MURDER.

By: slacker on 7/28/09 at 7:30

nemo, yes the hawk is the master of the sky, but are you the master of your domain?

By: house_of_pain on 7/28/09 at 7:33

The hawk says Nemo is the Master of Disaster.

By: Rocket99 on 7/28/09 at 7:41

These Pro Lifers also think it's totally acceptable to kill someone in prison.

How many Pro Lifers are willing to put their money where their mouth is and ADOPT all of the unwanted babies in just our country? Almost none.

How many Pro Lifers are willing to pay more taxes to support all of the unwanted children just in our country? Almost none.

To me, this group is one of the most hipocritical on the planet. They stand on their soap boxes and scream about abortion and how bad it is yet they are very unwilling to provide the needed support for the people who choose to have the children.

Lack of good sex education is part of the probem. But, according to the Pro Lifers, if you talk about sex all the kids will want to try it.

By: slacker on 7/28/09 at 7:44

pain, the hawk also wants to designate, that his tax dollars go to the breeding of more field mice.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 7:46

Verbal Cartoon

Mountain man id Hatfield poured his homemade moonshine into a cup, so his ailing cousin could drink. Proudly he said to his cousin, "Ya don't need no govermint doctor to fix you up, when my shine is just as good as anything the docs got."

Four excruciating hours his pattient died from stomach ulcers.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 7:49

By: slacker on 7/28/09 at 7:30
nemo, yes the hawk is the master of the sky, but are you the master of your domain?
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No way!! I've got cats.

By: mariebarbara on 7/28/09 at 7:51

Hmmm. War still going under Obama.......how do you know that writer does not oppose capital punishment........like one said, don't force us to pay for your desire to kill the baby.....adoption......do you know how many couples are waiting to adopt.....wait to adopt can be as long as ten years, abortion takes 10 minutes......mad at Palin because she did not abort her Downs Syndrome child....real nice......no support for those with children, WOW, food stamps, AFDC, subsidized housing, WIC, pell grants, SCHIP, subsidized day care.....

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 8:01

By: slacker on 7/28/09 at 7:44
pain, the hawk also wants to designate, that his tax dollars go to the breeding of more field mice
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idgaf

When will you fools stop wasting my tax money?

By: Citizen on 7/28/09 at 8:10

The writer, as a pro-life person, makes the argument that she shouldn't have to pay for tax supported abortions because she is opposed to abortions. While I understand her lament, our country doesn't work that way. We all must financially support things with which we disagree.

Some of you don't want your tax dollars supporting our military. Some of you don't want your tax dollars supporting free trade initiatives. Some of you don't want your tax dollars supporting anything that holds people accountable for their actions.

Others of us don't want our tax dollars supporting 23 million illegal alien residents of our country. Others of us don't want our tax dollars supporting unlimited access to abortions, especially as a convient means of birth control. We'd rather people take some modicum of responsibility for their own actions. Perhaps they could practice some sort of birth control. Perhaps THEY COULD PAY FOR THEIR OWN ABORTIONS if they, indeed, became pregnant despite their counter measures.

Most of us are sick and tired of our tax dollars going to wipe the noses and posteriors of those too darned lazy to do it themselves. How about some personal accountability? Even most of the pro big government, nanny state posters to this site who are over 45 probably grew up being taught personal accountability, but had some sort of mental transformation. Go figure??

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 8:10

When I see the opening remark of a post start with Hmmm, most likely means a Limbaugh follower.

mariebarbara I will let the women of this board debate the womans right to chioce, with you.

By: house_of_pain on 7/28/09 at 8:17

Citizen, perhaps people could pay for their own children as well.

By: Citizen on 7/28/09 at 8:31

House: What a novel idea!

By: gdiafante on 7/28/09 at 8:32

You never know how one will react when they acquire a major illness that prevents them for working, thus preventing them from being able to keep their house and put food on the table. But you're right, it must be a mental problem.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/28/09 at 8:34

I would support retro abortion.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/28/09 at 8:36

I think mariebarbara is related to sid. or another one of sid's alter egos.

By: gdiafante on 7/28/09 at 8:42

There's the rub Blanket, as you can see from Citizen's and marie's posts. They want people to choose other options (at least they have choices) but then proceed to ridicule those who do as lazy, mentally impaired, professional welfare scum.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 8:50

That is the right wing-fringe stands. Everone has freedom of chioce has long as it is in rightwing fruitcake limits.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/28/09 at 9:00

By: gdiafante on 7/28/09 at 8:42
There's the rub Blanket, as you can see from Citizen's and marie's posts. They want people to choose other options (at least they have choices) but then proceed to ridicule those who do as lazy, mentally impaired, professional welfare scum.

yeah, i've never understood that. pro-birth, but certainly not pro-LIFE.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/28/09 at 9:00

or they offer "charity" through their "church" but only if you buy into their dogma.

By: Funditto on 7/28/09 at 9:03

I hate abortion so I choose not to have one. But I don't think that choice should be taken away from anyone.

By: gdiafante on 7/28/09 at 9:04

Abortion should be the absolute last choice, but a choice nontheless.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 9:11

Where have you been gdia? I've miss you. :-(

By: gdiafante on 7/28/09 at 9:13

Vacation nemo...a long, LONG overdue vacation.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/28/09 at 9:14

the problem is that a lot of people think that abortion is mostly used as birth control, which is not the case.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 9:16

I hope you had a good time. I going on my next week.

By: gdiafante on 7/28/09 at 9:17

I did, it didn't last long enough though, but they never do.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/28/09 at 9:18

for for you, g! where did you go?

By: gdiafante on 7/28/09 at 9:21

New England. Stayed in New London CT and Boston most of the time.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 9:22

I alwas come back need another vaction. I am adding on a extra day so that I will have time to adjust.

Problem is on my last mini vaction they called me in the day I got back.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/28/09 at 9:24

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 9:22
I alwas come back need another vaction. I am adding on a extra day so that I will have time to adjust.

I always do the same thing, Nemo. unless i visit family. then i need about 2-3 days to adjust - lol!

By: Captain Nemo on 7/28/09 at 9:27

Glad your back gdia.

By: gdiafante on 7/28/09 at 9:28

Thanks Nemo.

By: Dragon on 7/28/09 at 9:35

For more than thirty years, the Hyde Amendment has been renewed each and every year that prohibits Federal (taxpayer) funding of abortion. The current legislation being considered no only discontinues the Hyde prohibition but will REQUIRE all "qualified" plans to provide abortion coverage. One unintended consequence could dramatically cut Catholic charity hospitals.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/28/09 at 9:39

Dragon, do you have a post with more detail regarding that? you mean a church run "charity" wouldn't be getting a subsidy?

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/28/09 at 9:40

geez, you guys want it both ways. you want your church run charities to get subsidies and not have to pay property tax yet you gripe about all the "welfare folks." sheesh.

By: Citizen on 7/28/09 at 9:44

Re: "By: gdiafante on 7/28/09 at 8:42
There's the rub Blanket, as you can see from Citizen's and marie's posts. They want people to choose other options (at least they have choices) but then proceed to ridicule those who do as lazy, mentally impaired, professional welfare scum."

Interesting how you attempt to define my post for me. Of the words "lazy, mentally impaired, professional welfare scum" I have to note that all of them are YOUR WORDS, not mine, except for "lazy". Of course, you miss my point about the "mental transformation". The point is... What causes people who were raised to be self sufficient and personally responsible to believe that others should be held to a much lower standard of accountability? Why the disconnect? Is it a need to rob people of their initiative? Is it because they feel personally guilty for having succeeded? Whatever it is, it's misguided at its core. We wind up with millions of people who sit around waiting for the government to take care of them. They're takers, not givers, and they attempt (not necessarily intentionally) to drag everyone else down to their level. Instead of the government continuing to promote that dead-end lifestyle, the government should be incenting them to better themselves and grow into more responsible members of society. However, most politicians are not inclined to do that as they want to keep people beholding to them, mindlessly pulling the lever for the pol who promises them the most with no regard from whence it comes.

By: gdiafante on 7/28/09 at 9:54

The point is, there is a minority of people who are lazy and refuse to work, only subsisting on the Federal teet, but most tend to label that to everyone who favors some sort of help to those who truly need it.

As this recession is illustrating, there's not much difference between the middle class and poor anymore, just a layoff or serious illness away. Case in point: my VERY Conservative neighbor who lost his job and his house is in the foreclosure process. He qualifies for several welfare initiatives and though in the past he has bitched and complained about those "lazy welfare bastards", he isn't complaing too much now, except about how the government should do more.

I guess it's really about perspective.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/28/09 at 10:04

Citizen, g is right. There are many examples of those who abuse the system. Trust me, i see lots of them in my neighborhood. However, there are plenty of folks who do need the help and have worked hard their whole lives. Should they be denied over the minority of the lazy, useless folks? (society will always have lazy, useless folks - can't get rid of them) i don't believe in holding people to a lower standard, i just don't want to throw out the baby with the wash, so to say.

By: brrrrk on 7/28/09 at 10:07

house_of_pain said

"Life isn't fair. If you are against abortion, don't have one."

Wow, what a concept!!! So simple, but yet so hard for some people to get.

By: dargent7 on 7/28/09 at 10:07

"Excuse me...the topic is ABORTION. Can we stay on it until, say, 11:00am?

By: gdiafante on 7/28/09 at 10:17

Fine Dargent...what rare Beatles cover famously depicted the band wearing butchers aprons and holding baby dolls?