Letters to the Editor

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 11:00pm

Bad diagnosis

Blue Dog Democrats are to be commended for finally saying “wait” to the liberal Pelosi-Obama juggernaut on health care. Getting it right seems to be much less important to the House and White House than getting it through.

Details matter in trillion-dollar undertakings that will dramatically impact every American. What’s the rush? Eventually, other people’s money runs out, so evaluating the real costs of the health care plan and making informed decisions about the hard choices is the minimum to avoid political malpractice.

Why not give people time to read the bill and understand what the 53 commissions are going to do? Wasn’t ‘transparency’ a campaign promise of the guy who is fond of saying, “I won?” Have you noticed the increased number of federally originated health care public service announcements on broadcast media? Is the Big Brother Nanny State here?

The autocrats are preparing you for them making decisions about your life.

The auto insurance market has functioned well with state mandated minimums and upgrades that people can choose at their discretion. If everyone had to buy a minimum health care plan managed by a private or non-profit insurance carrier, our current system would work much better.

Safeway [Supermarkets] employees have a miraculous health care plan helps them make informed choices about their health, wellness and health care providers. There are lots of models and options that work better than the current system, but none involve single payers.

Canadian health care only works because well-off Canadians can come here conveniently when the need arises. Above all, there is no need to rush into a bad decision when a better one is within reach.

Joel Buckberg, 37220

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149 Comments on this post:

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 10:50

No, since Juliet ignited Jughead, the numbers are insignificant. Time has rebooted.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/29/09 at 10:52

really?

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 10:57

No, you can't trust Diafantus.

By: Dragon on 7/29/09 at 10:58

In the House bill, the uninsured won't be covered until 2013 — after the next presidential election. In fact, it would take the better part of a decade — from 2010-2018 — to get all the components of the far-reaching proposal up and running.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-07-29-health-care_N.htm

It makes sense to study the proposals carefully and let Americans know all the facts.

By: brrrrk on 7/29/09 at 11:03

Two points about today's LTE....

The writer says, "Getting it right seems to be much less important to the House and White House than getting it through." To which I reply, really? It seems to me that the GOP position right now is all about stopping the "liberal Pelosi-Obama juggernaut" and not about truly addressing the health care issues that most average Americans have to deal with on a day by basis. Case in point... Republican Jim DeMint's "If we’re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo. It will break him" comment. Does this sound like a position that is derived from the desire to fix anything? Especially for the average American? Frankly I think the "It will break him" phrase is a lot more revealing than DeMint might realize.

And speaking of the average American brings me to my second point. The writer says, "Canadian health care only works because well-off Canadians can come here conveniently when the need arises." Well, I've got news for the writer, the wealthy always get good health care no matter what country they live in. That's not the problem. The problem is that the average American is not getting fair health care. And while we're on the subject of medical tourism, what about all the examples of Americans traveling to foreign countries to get procedures done that they couldn't afford here? I've even seen examples of insurance companies sending patients overseas to have cheap procedures done. Yes, we may have the best health care that money can buy.... if you have the money.

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 11:03

What?? You mean they don't have a magic wand and that it will take time to implement such a huge reform? You must be kidding!!

End sarcasm.

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 11:08

Brrrk, everyone knows that the Republican mantra is either do nothing or wait a few months and then do nothing. Notice that they only recognized a problem when forced to, and then it's half-assed.

By: brrrrk on 7/29/09 at 11:13

Two interesting statistics...

Over 18,000 people die every year because of lack of health insurance.

There are more uninsured people in the United States then there are people in Canada.

By: Kosh III on 7/29/09 at 11:14

gd
Republicans will act quickly when it citizens are trying to control their own lives in a fashion which the GOP does not approve of. You know, gay citizens want to decide for themselves who to marry, women want to control their own life, etcetc

By: slacker on 7/29/09 at 11:15

Those mean Republicans, they lose control of congress, and continue to foul up things.

By: CAH on 7/29/09 at 11:21

Since the founding of America, a kit has been used to convey the thoughts and pronouncements of those in Washington, D.C. to those of us out in the hinterland. You can view this kit, and at the same time understand where a certain famous saying came from, here:

http://tinyurl.com/l5yrkb

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 11:26

I wouldn't say mean, stupid maybe, but not mean.

By: Dragon on 7/29/09 at 11:27

"Over 18,000 people die every year because of lack of health insurance."

Shouldn't that be lack of health care? That's like saying people have car accidents because they have no insurance.

By: Kosh III on 7/29/09 at 11:33

18,000 reasons to not delay.

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 11:37

Nah, Kosh...the money in Dragon's pocket is more important than 18,000 lost souls.

By: brrrrk on 7/29/09 at 11:38

Dragon said

"Shouldn't that be lack of health care? That's like saying people have car accidents because they have no insurance."

No... if you want to use the car insurance analogy it would be that people can't get their cars fixed because they don't have car insurance.... so the car "dies" The tragedy, whether it be an accident or disease, has no connection to the insurance itself.... but the services supplied to deal with the tragedy is.

By: slacker on 7/29/09 at 11:42

gdiafante, you might be right, Obama is saying the police, and repubs. are acting stupidly. A clever way to gain support maybe.

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 11:45

Could also be an astute observation. Like I said yesterday, it's all about perspective.

By: slacker on 7/29/09 at 11:49

18,002 people die every year because of faulty perspective.

By: Loner on 7/29/09 at 12:04

Back from my summer retreat....and back to my favorite online community - the NCP posters.

As for the LTE, I agree, let's not rush this thing into law, let's get it right. The LTE's author revealed his prejudices when he used the term "other people's money". The guy is a Dittohead. Sometimes, even Dittoheads make some sense; let's get the fix right before we institutionalize it.

Ah, it's great to be back....

By: Funditto on 7/29/09 at 12:06

You guys need to take this on the road. I'll be your tour manager and we'll all get rich.

By: slacker on 7/29/09 at 12:10

Hi Loner, glad you are back, and had a good holiday.

By: Funditto on 7/29/09 at 12:16

what loner said

By: Loner on 7/29/09 at 12:28

Thanks, Slacker, I had a superb time. Here's what I came away with - when one get's a bit of silver in their beard, the young hotties treat you in an avuncular fashion. They seek the wise advice of an experienced sage. I played that role. Sadly, some older guys try to stay in the hunt, using "Just For Men", studly costumes etc, they usually fail to score. I think it's fair to say that many men remain boys while most girls become women.

Funditto, you got the job.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/29/09 at 12:35

Hello Loner!!!!

By: Captain Nemo on 7/29/09 at 12:41

What I find amazing is that Dragon can wag his tail without a command form his master.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/29/09 at 12:44

from not form. More COFFEE.

By: Loner on 7/29/09 at 12:44

Good afternoon, Captain Nemo. I hope that all is well with you and yours.

My annual retreat was medicinal. I was able to overcome my recent bout with Blogger's Burnout; I answered Bnakat, Serr8d and Mark from Georgia's comments on my last post. I also put out a brand new journal entry entitled, "The Crux of the Problem" and I invite everyone here to visit my site and to leave a comment.

Here's the URL:

http://new-york-loner.livejournal.com/

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/29/09 at 12:50

Hi, Loner. Welcome back!

By: CAH on 7/29/09 at 1:05

http://tinyurl.com/l5yrkb

By: Funditto on 7/29/09 at 1:06

Whoa. Is Serr8d still around? I thought he was in jail.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/29/09 at 1:07

thank god i know how to swim, CAH!

By: Funditto on 7/29/09 at 1:06
Whoa. Is Serr8d still around? I thought he was in jail.

well, i doubt he got early release for good behavior - lol!

By: CAH on 7/29/09 at 1:11

Just a little picture of what we get from Washington.

By: Loner on 7/29/09 at 1:19

Thanks, BN. Serr8d has his own site and he visits my site and monitors this one. Bnakat is known to visit both sites as well.

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 1:46

Compromise reached

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/29/health.care/index.html

By: Funditto on 7/29/09 at 1:50

http://www.hulu.com/watch/85839/the-tonight-show-with-conan-obrien-shatner-does-palin

By: Captain Nemo on 7/29/09 at 2:04

So we got an compromise.

What will the right have to say? What will be their spin?

By: brrrrk on 7/29/09 at 2:10

gdiafante said

"Compromise reached"

Hmmm, I wonder if we'll see HUGE campaign contributions miraculously showing up in the coffers of Baucus, Cantwell, Landrieu and the rest of their ilk? Maybe now the big medicine lobbies can now take that 1.3 million that they're spending each and every day to fight the public option and actually apply it to treating people... or maybe there's a corporate plane somewhere that needs a new gold trimmed dinner service? My bet is it ends up going to a dinner service.

By: Dragon on 7/29/09 at 2:12

Here is a good article reviewing the nation's longest-running public option healthcare system and asking why the Feds aren't interested in any of the lessons learned. It's called TennCare.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/769nuwys.asp?pg=2

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 2:13

Does that answer your question Nemo? LOL

By: shenanigan on 7/29/09 at 2:16

If our Government run the health care the way the VA is run, it will be great and i would like to sign up. In our community we have several ex- marines and sholders that goes to the VA here in Nashville. Talk about being well cared for they are.

Every Senator and Congressman has government Health care I have not seen or heard a single one refuse it saying they have there private insurance which is so much better than this Government.

It is more like each senator got it and do not want any of the taxpayers to have the same, It like they can pull the snow over the poor taxpayer and make him the fool he is if he or she is a rightie

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/29/09 at 2:18

"Maybe now the big medicine lobbies can now take that 1.3 million that they're spending each and every day to fight the public option and actually apply it to treating people... "

Good point!

By: Captain Nemo on 7/29/09 at 2:19

I did not have to wait too long, did I.

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 2:21

I hope that whatever they pass ends direct-to-consumer marketing for pharmaceuticals, but it's probably unlikely.

By: Captain Nemo on 7/29/09 at 2:34

Maybe they will give out vacations package to health spas!

By: shenanigan on 7/29/09 at 2:39

gdiafante I also have read where the world was suppose to end on 12-12-12 can not remember what i was reading that quoted the date.
Guess you will want to sell all things of value since you will need them after 12//12/12 .I do not remember the 12 noon part or 12 equal part ,

The biggest problem is the the time line will it central time zone or mt time zone if it is equaly shared as you put it got to go around and break up at 12 noon at each time zone differently, no doubt some of them parts will be ocean only and no land, are you taking alone your car or your boat or can a person take both.

Just in case I miss the trip have a good one

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 2:42

shenanigan, now is not the time for rational thinking...the world is going to end!! I am not selling anything, I'm taking it all with me, despite what Lennon wrote (just for you dargent).

By: Captain Nemo on 7/29/09 at 2:43

I what I would like to know is which calendar are they talking about.8-/

By: Blanketnazi2 on 7/29/09 at 2:55

Well, whenever you guys get raptured up, don't forget your good atheist pal Blanketnazi or your pets.

http://www.postrapturepetcare.com/

we will be servicing your pet's needs post rapture.

;~)

By: gdiafante on 7/29/09 at 2:57

I have a beer waiting for you in oblivion, blanket.