Letters to the Editor

Thursday, August 13, 2009 at 12:00am

Building another Yugo?

Recently, Barack Obama gave the United Auto Workers 55 percent of the Chrysler Corporation. That would be accurately described as the workers controlling the means of production, the classic definition of socialism.

During the Soviet era, most communist countries had automobile production based on that economic model. Even during the dark days of American car manufacturing in the late 1970s and early 80s I do not remember anyone ever extolling the superiority of the East German Trabant or the Romanian Dacia.

Of course, in this country, we have had the opportunity to buy a communist manufactured vehicle, the Yugo, lovingly built by dedicated workers in the communist state of Yugoslavia. The Yugo is often cited as the worst automobile ever sold in America.

With the UAW taking over Chrysler, that distinction is likely to be in serious jeopardy.

Kenneth Ray, 37027

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301 Comments on this post:

By: Loner on 8/12/09 at 11:19

Kenneth Ray is convinced. The President is a socialist. The United Auto Workers are a bunch of socialists. Buying a Chrysler is un-American because doing so would aid and abet democracy's nemesis - socialism.The resuscitated Chrysler Corporation is a corporate zombie.
The new Chrysler vehicles will be the worst vehicles on the market

Same goes for General Motors, Kenneth, they're a bunch of socialists too. The only patriotic thing to do is to boycott the American-made automobiles and trucks.

If we love this country, we should go out and buy a foreign-built car, built by scabs, in a scab factory. Yes, that's what God-fearing , decent Americans ought to do.

Thanks for setting us all straight, Kenneth Ray, you are truly an American patriot.

By: Loner on 8/12/09 at 11:21

Just kidding.

By: dargent7 on 8/13/09 at 4:22

If there was ever any truth to the notion of a 'paradigm shift", this is what we're watching occur and unfold in America. Obama is no Socialist or Marxist than any of us. Pure Capitalism is over. We're now a 'hybrid" country, and what's wrong with that? And I'd drive a Yugo over an Edsel any day.

By: sidneyames on 8/13/09 at 5:08

D7 why don't you rush right out and buy a Hugo since you're so confident it would be a "fine" car. And you might be "hybrid" but for the most part, most of us are still American-American. Gee you don't hear Canadians saying African-Canadian; or French saying German-French or Germans saying American-German. They are all proud of their country. AND so are most AMERICAN-Americans. So no, we're not Hybrids. And O'bama rules like a socialist and in the red book of Mao, there are readings that sound like O'bama is quoting them. Of course that would not be socialist witings, now would it? That would be pure communism. Hmmmmmmm! And wake up so you can call me some names. I just love it when you stope to name calling. It brings out your true nature!

By: dargent7 on 8/13/09 at 5:35

SidVic: It's our system of government that is turning "hybrid". Speaking of which, try drinking some ethanol in the morning instead of Jack Daniels...your posts might appear logical for a change. And learn how to spell, for Christ's sake..."stope" is stoop.

By: house_of_pain on 8/13/09 at 5:40

Uh-oh, looks like a power struggle.

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 5:54

Note to Sid and others: we have a mixed economy...have for years...now back away from the edge...

By: dargent7 on 8/13/09 at 6:03

In the old days, it was when "60 Minutes" showed up in your office lobby for an "interview", you knew it was going to be a bad day. Today, it's when Sid Vicious comes out swinging the 3rd post calling you by name.
And I thought Detroit was a tough crowd.

By: dargent7 on 8/13/09 at 6:04

gd: What are your two favorite Allman Brother's songs?

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 6:17

Tough...probably "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" and "You Don't Love Me"...the versions on the Fillmore East live album. Why?

By: slacker on 8/13/09 at 6:17

gdiafante, pain,.. newsflash...this just in.. the Dallas cowboys will sign Mike Vick. stop.

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 6:21

Get the hell out of here...you serious??

By: house_of_pain on 8/13/09 at 6:23

gd, you may want to change one of your answers to "Whipping Post".
Vick in Dallas. Classic.

By: slacker on 8/13/09 at 6:24

From my impeccable sources gdiafante.

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 6:25

Well, if it is true, which I wouldn't doubt, that would give us at least one QB that has won a playoff game...

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 6:26

The Zone? I was listening too...lol

By: Kosh III on 8/13/09 at 6:27

Please don't buy or ride on a Harley, it's employee owned and therefore socialist. Don't fly Southwest; it's employee owned and therefore socialist.

Yes, let's please don't emulate those horrid third world socialist countries like New Zealand, Norway, Israel or Australia.

By: slacker on 8/13/09 at 6:29

I'm busted.

By: dargent7 on 8/13/09 at 6:29

gd: Just for a change of tempo on this board...you know way too much about The Beatles...mine are "Whippin' Post" and "Blue Sky". Wonder what Dickie Betts is up to these days?

By: Kosh III on 8/13/09 at 6:30

sidenyames said: "Gee you don't hear Canadians saying African-Canadian;"

NO you hear them saying "French-Canadian"

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 6:32

Good choices Dargent. Didn't he have (another) falling out with the band, or what's left of it? Personally, the band was never the same after Duane died.

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 6:33

Kosh, you should hear the Canadians talk about Nashville...man, you'd think the city was in the deep South or something...they want our hockey team.

By: house_of_pain on 8/13/09 at 6:37

My dad went on the road with the Allman Bros. a long time ago.

By: Loner on 8/13/09 at 6:44

Now that GM and Chrysler have gone "Commie", will NASCAR, a beloved American oriiginal, switch over to using only foreign, non-union autos, in an effort to preserve America's sovereignty, dignity and Divine destiny?

Will the recently re-introduced "hemi" engine, back from the fifties, be re-retired, thanks to the undermining of America by the Marxist "greenies"?

Is America's infatuation with "retro cars" over? Will the reintroduced Challengers, Camaros and Mustangs be scrapped along with the 40's looking HHR panel trucks, the 30's looking PT Cruisers, and the 50's looking chevy SSR Roadster sport trucks, the muscle bound Vipers and the home-made-looking Prowlers?

It seems that the American car designers still think that gas is 38 cents per gallon and everybody is wealthy, young, single and looking to score.

Forget the commie/socialist aspect, American car manufacturers should be allowed to die, because they are, in effect, brain dead. Pull the plug, may these fools rest in peace.

By: idgaf on 8/13/09 at 6:45

Does it not bother anyone that the car companys were not barrys to give away?

By: dargent7 on 8/13/09 at 6:46

Kosh III: I think Sid took a cheap swipe at my name. She's clever like that,and at such an early hour.
gd: Yeah,...those songs I listen to all the time. Betts and Dwayne are like Don Felder and Joe Walsh on "Hotel California". Listen to that one all the time too.

By: Dragon on 8/13/09 at 6:50

NASCAR will be on its way out, due to the pollution and terrible example of fuel-wasteful entertainment. Unless, of course, they start running on soy bean oil.

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 6:53

I was just listening to Derek and the Dominoes version of "little wing". Didn't care for the arrangement, but the solos were awesome.

Yeah id, it was a much more desirable outcome to have them on bended knee every six months or so...a pattern Bush began before he left office. Obama just did what the companies themselves wouldn't do...face reality. It wasn't going to end well either way.

Kudos to Ford though, they illustrated that with competant management, it didn't have to be such a cluster****.

By: Kosh III on 8/13/09 at 6:59

gdiafante said:
"Kosh, you should hear the Canadians talk about Nashville...man, you'd think the city was in the deep South or something"

LOL

Reminds me of the time I was at an annual conference in Columbus GA. One of the organizers said that someday they should have the conference in Nashville so that "these folks could see how the YANKEES do it."

By: Loner on 8/13/09 at 7:00

The Japanese have been the leaders in developing new technologies applicable to motor vehicle design and construction and I suspect that any new break-throughs will not be coming out of Detroit.

Let me predict that the first hybrid semis (tractor trailers) will be Japanese-designed. The genius who figures out how to efficiently convert heat directly into electricity will not be an American and the ultra-light super batteries, that will revolutionize everything, will not be American made.

We have become fat, dumb and happy. This can't go on...

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 7:05

The Japanese take education and intelligence seriously, Loner. We do not. To Americans, school is just a Socialist indoctrination camp, and the more "street cred" you have, the better chance you end up on a reality show.

Or you are home-schooled, totally devoid of any social coping skills and believe the Earth is 6000 years old and the center of the universe.

it's your pick...

By: house_of_pain on 8/13/09 at 7:05

Hey Loner, who you callin' "happy"?

By: Loner on 8/13/09 at 7:15

Agreed, GD.

Sorry, Pain, I forgot about your travails, trials and tribulations.

When it comes to rock trivia, I just go to Google to get the answer, if the need arises. Why carry all those files around in your head, they just eat up megabytes and slow down the computations.

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/13/09 at 7:35

Retail sales unexpectedly dip 0.1 percent in July
Retail sales post unexpected 0.1 percent decline in July, raising new worries about consumers

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Retail-sales-dip-01-percent-apf-2840598402.html?x=0&.v=1

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/13/09 at 7:36

Jobless claims up, retail sales dip unexpectedly
Unexpected rise in new jobless claims, drop in July retail sales point to strained recovery

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fed-says-economy-leveling-new-apf-1948834182.html?x=0&.v=7

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/13/09 at 7:38

Foreclosures rise 7 percent in July from June

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090813/ap_on_bi_ge/us_foreclosure_rates

By: Blanketnazi2 on 8/13/09 at 7:39

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 8:05
The Japanese take education and intelligence seriously, Loner. We do not. To Americans, school is just a Socialist indoctrination camp, and the more "street cred" you have, the better chance you end up on a reality show.

Or you are home-schooled, totally devoid of any social coping skills and believe the Earth is 6000 years old and the center of the universe.

it's your pick...

ah, sad but true.

By: sidneyames on 8/13/09 at 7:42

Loner GM and Chrysler went "commie" because O'bama drove them there just like he's trying to take the entire country on a roller coaster ride to "boldly and swifty" change us to his dream. And D-7 if I misspell a word, I don't need you as a tutorial. Besides that I see you are stoping (aka stooping) to your low levels of name calling. I can tell you were not on the debate team in high school or college or else you might be able to stick to talking points without going ballistic. So have a nice day trying to rein in your ADD - Attention: Don't Drive

By: sidneyames on 8/13/09 at 7:42

Loner GM and Chrysler went "commie" because O'bama drove them there just like he's trying to take the entire country on a roller coaster ride to "boldly and swifty" change us to his dream. And D-7 if I misspell a word, I don't need you as a tutorial. Besides that I see you are stoping (aka stooping) to your low levels of name calling. I can tell you were not on the debate team in high school or college or else you might be able to stick to talking points without going ballistic. So have a nice day trying to rein in your ADD - Attention: Don't Drive

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/13/09 at 7:42

Rep. Weiner Tries To Ban CBS 2 HD From Town Hall

Though Likely Fearful Of Backlash Against President Obama's Health Care Plan, Congressman Eventually Relents

Forum In Queens At Times Raucous, Heated, But Order Is Kept

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/town.hall.meetings.2.1126259.html

By: Dragon on 8/13/09 at 7:43

I totally amazes me that all the economic indicators (unemployment, foreclosures, sales, etc) are "unexpected". Obama's economic team has no clue.

We are being told that Obama pulled us back from the brink of economic collapse. Who predicted that? Not Obama's economic team. They said the recovery would take two years if they did nothing. Now, they tell us the stimulus was designed to pay out over two years (so far, less than 10% spent).

By: Loner on 8/13/09 at 7:43

An ad for the Ford Mustang keeps popping up on the bottom of this page. The text says, "Your sensible side is getting nervous". Well, at least the Ford people acknowledge that buying a retro-stang is not sensible; but that hasn't stopped the company from betting the farm on the thing. Go figure.

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/13/09 at 7:44

The Health Care Bill: What HR 3200, ‘‘America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009,” Says

http://www.classicalideals.com/HR3200.htm

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 7:46

Dragon, you have no understanding of this, do you? You have such a hard-on to trash the administration you can't see the obvious. Open your eyes for once.

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/13/09 at 7:46

Obama's Health Care Push Faces Citizens' Mounting Concern Over Deficit

Across the Country, People Are Wondering How to Pay for New Reform

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=8309358

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 7:52

The thing about Ford, Loner, is that they have other options...the Focus, hybrids, etc. They nearly fell apart a few years ago so they were well in to restructuring their business model, probably the only thing that saved them, if you can say that.

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 7:54

Hey Chief, you figured out that the Declaration of Independence was in 1776 yet? LOL

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/13/09 at 7:54

Fannie Mae seeks $10.7B in US aid after 2Q loss

Fannie Mae seeks $10.7 billion in new US aid after posting $15.2 billion second-quarter loss

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fannie-Mae-seeks-107B-in-US-apf-3979081619.html?x=0&.v=10

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/13/09 at 8:08

Mortgages cost more than home value for one in four

http://www.nydailynews.com/real_estate/2009/08/12/2009-08-12_mortgages_cost_more_than_home_value_for_one_in_four.html

By: gdiafante on 8/13/09 at 8:09

I didn't think so.