Letters to the Editor

Sunday, August 16, 2009 at 11:44pm

The Eagle flies low

The signing of Michael Vick by the Philadelphia Eagles was a sad day for the National Football League because it means they have sold out their integrity.

NFL owners seem to think there aren't enough players with good character to win so they hire animal abusers. The message sent by the NFL is that it doesn't matter what you do off the field as long as it doesn't involve drugs, guns or harming other people.

Why should children look up to Donovan McNabb when they see people like Vick given a slap on the wrist and million-dollar contract.

I do believe that Vince Lombardi has rolled over in his grave and I, for one, will not watch any of the Eagles games on TV.

Harold R. Wilson,
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136 Comments on this post:

By: bnakat on 8/17/09 at 12:04

Mr. Wilson: What would be your price for redemption? A felony conviction, two years loss of freedom, and $120,000,000 contract gone make for quite a "slap on the wrist." Based on your tone, he should be banned for life from professional football. We do not have to condone his crimes against dogs, which were abhorrent, to give the guy a second chance. Teach the kids two lessons: (1) Vick was wrong and was punished; (2) He seems to have learned a valuable lesson, so he is being given an opportunity to prove himself worthy of the renewed trust.

Who knows, maybe the great Vince Lombardi would approve. After all, he was tough, but fair.

Incidentally, a walk-on who was hired by an NFL team would likely get a 1.4 mil one year contract, with a one year team renewal option.

By: dargent7 on 8/17/09 at 3:59

This LTE is way off base, and plain wrong. I watched the Vick interview on "60 Minutes" last night. Somewhat painful, because I didn't believe how remorseful Vick was. The interviewer was tough. He's now going to champion animal right's causes? Hum..... But the guy lost a $130 million dollar endorsement from Nike and spent 2 years in prison. He lost those years as a NFL QB which could of been his best. Levenworth doesn't sound like a country club. The Eagles only gave him a 2 year contract to see how he does. And the NFL just suspended Stallworth for 1 year after he killed someone while DUI. The LTE "isn't going to watch any Eagles games"? Goody for you. Watch Lions games, pal. They're a real crime.

By: slacker on 8/17/09 at 5:40

Vick served his sentence, and got back in the N.F.L. market. He found employment quickly, and life, and football, goes on. I'm an animal lover, and I don't care for Vick, and others of his ilk. He will say, and do anything, he thinks will advance his return to football, and society. But people who can treat animals as he did, never change, just their modus operandi, when caught.

By: house_of_pain on 8/17/09 at 6:08

Gonna be one of those days around here.
Abusing animals is wrong. Being a judgemental twit is also wrong.

By: Kosh III on 8/17/09 at 6:15

Treat him like a sex offender.
Put him on a list fo life. Restrict where he can live or work. Make him check with the police periodically, let him be subject to community scorn.

By: Kosh III on 8/17/09 at 6:20

Besides, it's all Bush's fault!

By: daKine7 on 8/17/09 at 6:27

d'pain: Disagree with your asessment. Running a dog fighting ring for 6 years, financing it, and being exposed, coming down hard on Vick isn't "judgemental". It's like starving or killing horses. Either, as a human being, you have a soul, or you do not. Vick didn't get a "soul" in Leavenworth in 2 short years.

By: sidneyames on 8/17/09 at 6:31

Gonna be one of those days around here.
Abusing animals is wrong. Being a judgemental twit is also wrong.
House of Pain, you are so correct. Actually Kosh III I love children and pets. I do not believe the abuse of a child should even come close to that of a pet, so I'd respectfully disagree with you on that one. He made a mistake. He had poor judgement and allowed something to go on that should have been nipped in the bud. A friend of mine who was raised in the south said that dog fighting has always been somewhat of a "family" event in some parts of the country. I have never heard that before. So maybe it's true. I don't know. But I say that Michael Vick, Pacman Jones and other offenders should be forgiven. Jones sure got a lot of forgiveness and he's still blowing it. Michael Vick will not follow that path. I'd be willing to bet on it. He has truly repented based on my feelings about the matter. So House be a little more forgiving. After all, there but for the grace of God goes us all!

By: house_of_pain on 8/17/09 at 6:42

d7, he's not just coming down on Vick. He's including the Eagles & the NFL.
The legal system handed down punishment, and Vick served his time.
At least give the guy a chance to prove he's learned his lesson.
I will agree that what he did was horrible.

By: Rocket99 on 8/17/09 at 7:24

I tend to not watch the Eagles anyway. Nothing to do with Vick. Just don't watch them. They're not my team.

As far as Vick goes, he does deserve a second chance.

As far as Pacman goes, he's had more chances than a cat has lives. He should be done.

By: Blanketnazi2 on 8/17/09 at 8:00

I'm a huge dog lover but Vick has paid his dues. Let him go on with his life, just don't allow him to own another animal.

By: idgaf on 8/17/09 at 8:03

Its a hard one to call. I don't have a dog (no pun intended) so I will remain on the sidelines.

An legitamate argument can be made on both sides.

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/17/09 at 8:08

USAToday Poll about stimulus - most don't have a good opinion about the stimulus and the economy.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-08-16-stimulus-poll_N.htm?csp=34#pollresults

By: gdiafante on 8/17/09 at 8:11

I say we let VIck and Stallworth fight it out to the death. Whoever's left alive gets to play for the Titans.

By: gdiafante on 8/17/09 at 8:14

I'm just glad that Tiger lost the PGA Championship...I was getting sick of the Vick updates every 15 minutes...."news from Eagles camp is that Vick just threw a ball...oh wait...he's picking up another ball...let's take it back to the studio to analyze how that second ball will impact the Eagles offense..."

By: gdiafante on 8/17/09 at 8:20

"Thanks Jim, for one, it tells you that other defenses need to watch out because he may throw the ball and someone could catch it or it could be incomplete. I think the rest of the NFL may be a little worried, and unsure how to defend against someone who has the forward pass in their arsenal..."

By: house_of_pain on 8/17/09 at 8:23

"The Eagles' mascot has been giving Vick a wide berth, Chris. Bad blood, perhaps?
Stay tuned for further updates..."

By: house_of_pain on 8/17/09 at 8:33

Blanket, I was watching "Whale Wars", hoping to see rat boy get a blowhole 'swirlie'.
Man, that little dude is irritating.

By: dargent7 on 8/17/09 at 8:46

gd: You need to trade in those rabbit ears for cable. Vick was lead on the Sports segments of every news casts, but all the other lead stories is the "Town Hall" health care b.s. Watch for the Eagle's home opener to have record attendance.
All eyes will be on Vick and how the Philly's respond to his introduction.
As a society, it's all we got.

By: gdiafante on 8/17/09 at 8:53

Darg, Direct TV, and I was watching the PGA, but every time I went to ESPN News Vick was being discussed. But it's not like ESPN has ever run a topic into the ground...

Greatest thing ever: the little "red" button option on DirectTv. Not only did I have more than one option for watching the PGA championship, had all the other sports scores as well.

By: dargent7 on 8/17/09 at 9:11

gd: Did you watch the "60 Minutes" Vick interview?
Chief: We're talking today about the NFL, dog fighting, prison, and the Titans.... leave the "health care" issue alone, for one day, ok?

By: Dragon on 8/17/09 at 9:14

Gee, dargent7, no Star Trek Trivia?

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/17/09 at 9:16

Lousy day for the stock market apparently.

Stocks plunge as investors worry about consumers
http://tinyurl.com/puucmc

FTA: Investors' rising fears about consumer spending are turning stocks into a risky investment again.

By: gdiafante on 8/17/09 at 9:19

No, I didn't see that Darg, didn't particularly care about it really. I actually put in a DVD..."Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy"...much classier than Vick...

By: brrrrk on 8/17/09 at 9:29

As someone who's involved with a dog rescue group and other organizations that have to do with animal welfare, I was as appalled by Vick's actions as much as anyone could be. On the other hand, some people like Vick are a victim/product of their culture (and I'm not referring to being black before anyone blows a gasket) and he did do his time. Only time will tell as to whether or not he has truly been rehabilitated. There's an old cowboy saying, "If you teach and animal to be mean, don't be surprised if it learns it's lesson well"... I think the say can be applied to man. Let's hope Vick has unlearned a thing or two.

By: Funditto on 8/17/09 at 9:29

Will if today isn't my lucky today! Both kids are off at school. The sun is shining, I'm working at home and my shiny Titan's rookie is trimming his enormous hedge right outside my window.

Life is good.

By: gdiafante on 8/17/09 at 9:38

I don't buy the "victim/product of their culture". That seems like an excuse. Everyone has a choice.

By: Dragon on 8/17/09 at 9:44

brrrrk, you are one of the very few who recognize Vick's upbringing. Coming from an impoverished area of coastal Virginia, it's easy to understand their different attitudes towards dogs. They are not considered members of the family, and they are not put on par with humans.

By: gdiafante on 8/17/09 at 9:57

There you have it, under no circumstances should you walk Lassie through the impoverished area of coastal Virginia. They are likely to mob and kill your dog.

By: slacker on 8/17/09 at 10:00

Hey Dragon, what part of the country produces most of our sociopaths?

By: slacker on 8/17/09 at 10:05

brrrrk, I read that book ''Old Cowboy Sayings'' my favorites:
Never rope a moose.
Be leery of a tall saddle horn.
More beans Mr. Taggert?

By: pandabear on 8/17/09 at 10:12

"By: slacker on 8/17/09 at 11:00

Hey Dragon, what part of the country produces most of our sociopaths?"

...that would be East Nashville...

By: pandabear on 8/17/09 at 10:13

...and I hear they expect to produce more, in spite of the economy...

By: brrrrk on 8/17/09 at 10:17

gdiafante said,

"I don't buy the "victim/product of their culture". That seems like an excuse. Everyone has a choice."

I hear what you're saying, but that's assuming there are known choices for the person. I was raised in a family where everyone hunted, and if not for the fact that my parents broke from the mold, I'd likely be a hunter... that is if I hadn't moved.

By: MamaG on 8/17/09 at 10:18

Effin' A! Don't walk your doggies over here, either, folks!

By: house_of_pain on 8/17/09 at 10:18

Ask d7's intern where she's from...

By: MamaG on 8/17/09 at 10:19

Most of "coastal" Virginia is covered with Navy. What the hell does being coastal virginia have to do with anything? Sounds like something sidneyames the maroon would say.

By: brrrrk on 8/17/09 at 10:20

slacker,

Two of my other favs are...

Don't drink downstream from the herd.

and

Don't squat with your spurs on.

By: MamaG on 8/17/09 at 10:27

By sidneyames:
"He has truly repented based on my feelings about the matter. So House be a little more forgiving. After all, there but for the grace of God goes us all!"

WRONG again sidney. Your "feelings" about the matter don't mean diddly squat in the reality of the matter. That's simply your perspective but doesn't mean he's truly repented at all. (Although I hope he has.) And NOT there but for the grace of God goes ME. Maybe you should've said, "There but for the grace of God go I."
You may be but, I'm not stupid enough to fight dogs.

By: MamaG on 8/17/09 at 10:31

gdia, I love Ron Burgundy!
"Sky rockets in flight...Afternoon delight"

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/17/09 at 10:31

Well, things are looking up!

Key Feature Of Obama Health Plan May Be Out
Administration Hints That Public Option Isn't Only Way to Go

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/16/AR2009081602248.html?hpid=topnews

By: gdiafante on 8/17/09 at 10:31

Agreed mama, I never realized that God's grace is the only thing preventing me from torturing dogs...

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/17/09 at 10:43

slacker,

"Hey Dragon, what part of the country produces most of our sociopaths?"

I haven't been able to verify this but I've heard it's the Washington State area. Still looking for verification.

By: CAH on 8/17/09 at 10:52

New Bumper Sticker Now Being Seen In Philly

Hide your Beagle
Vick's an Eagle

By: MamaG on 8/17/09 at 10:54

LOL CAH

By: Dragon on 8/17/09 at 10:55

Why equate dog fighting with sociapathy? We are talking about cultural values.

By: sidneyames on 8/17/09 at 11:09

brrrk and Dragon, you are both correct; I grew up in southern VA and lived it with our neighbors. My brother never got involved, but neighborhood boys did. I rescue dogs and would never condone fighting them. BUT I am all about forgiving Michael Vick. I think we should give him a chance; see if he will advocate for abolishing animal cruelty, especially fighting dogs. I found a pit bull in the ditch recently; all chewed up with a rope on it's neck. Call police and animal control. Not much they can do after the fact. Sometimes I'd like to "choke" my barking spoiled rotten 5 year old rescued Schnauzer. His German side and my German side collide fiercely, but thank good he has my husband on his side. "Choke" not literally by the way. Then there's the rescued Lab and the two cats and my husband has them all spoiled. OH well, I'm outnumbered. CAH, how about this for a more positive spin on things: Vick's showed us his remorse, so let's make compassion a choice. After all, we've forgiven Pacman jones so many times I've lost count.

By: MamaG on 8/17/09 at 11:21

Gee, sidneyames, I wish I were as perfect as you.

By: chiefpayne568 on 8/17/09 at 11:25

Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/52602

By: Blanketnazi2 on 8/17/09 at 11:38

By: Dragon on 8/17/09 at 11:55
Why equate dog fighting with sociapathy? We are talking about cultural values.

Most sociopaths start with torturing animals then move up to humans.