Letters to the Editor

Friday, September 4, 2009 at 2:12am

Hey, negative Nate

Just let me know if Larry Woody is able to say something positive about NASCAR?  Just once? 

I got tired of major league baseball once and quit watching it. I felt better about it..... Maybe Larry needs to do the same with NASCAR and let the rest of us enjoy it.  

Come to think of it I might take my own advice and quit reading his articles.

Casey Hooper, 37211

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291 Comments on this post:

By: gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 1:52

It's not the same thing Ben and you know it. There's a difference between being taught history and being taught religion. You bible thumpers want religion taught in schools funded by taxpayers.

Funny how you take exception to taxpayer funded healthcare reform yet want the taxpayer to pay for children to learn religion. Hypocrit.

By: brrrrk on 9/4/09 at 1:52

Kosh III,

Chances are that if we went back to Chiefs idea of the constitution, he'd be working as a sharecropper with no vote. But as I've said before, the sharecropper mentality seems to be the prevalent Tennessee mentality. Yes'm Massa Corporation...

By: BenDover on 9/4/09 at 1:53

I don't believe in gravity. I think everything's just getting bigger at a proportional rate. When you drop a ball it doesn't fall to the ground pulled by some mystical magical force... the earth simply gets bigger up under it and slams up into the ball.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 1:54

Dargent,

Drop something.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 1:55

Gdia,

No, I said the Constitution was written in 1787. The Declaration was completed in 1776

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 1:57

Kosh,

"Did you not say you wanted to go back to the way the Constitution originally was?
There would have been no amendments other than the first 10 and therefore my point stands: you want a male supremacy world of WASPS."

I BELIEVE I said I would like us to go back to a Constitutionally governed government..with amendments and all.

By: BenDover on 9/4/09 at 1:57

brrrrk... I just don't think that Christianity should be at a disadvantage to the other crap kids learn in school.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 1:58

So just don't teach anything about creation of the world, unless you teach all of them. And don't let the Koran, Torrah, Bible, or any other religious book into the school. Problem solved.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 2:00

brrrrk,

"Chances are that if we went back to Chiefs idea of the constitution, he'd be working as a sharecropper with no vote. But as I've said before, the sharecropper mentality seems to be the prevalent Tennessee mentality. Yes'm Massa Corporation..."

Chance are, if we limited our government to doing just what is prescribed in the Constitution, we'd have less government on our hands.

By: gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 2:02

Creationism is a fairy tale. They should teach it along side Cinderella in Kindergarten.

There, problem solved.

By: brrrrk on 9/4/09 at 2:02

BenDover said

"brrrrk... I just don't think that Christianity should be at a disadvantage to the other crap kids learn in school."

But why should education in your faith be the responsibility of the public schools? Now all of the sudden you expect the BIG BAD GOVERNMENT to educate your children in you faith!!! You guys are all about responsibility? Are you or are you not?

And specifically what CRAP are you talking about? Wait, I know, anything that doesn't have something to do with the Bible. Here's an idea.... keep your brats at home.

By: gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 2:06

Chief, you don't understand what the hell you're talking about. If we went back to the founding, you'd find that Alexander Hamilton established "implied powers" of the Constitution and created a national bank, among other things, citing the "general welfare" statement in the Constitition. He also created taxes in order to run the government.

No doubt you'd be whining along with the other anti-Federalists in opposition to this, as you do.

By: brrrrk on 9/4/09 at 2:10

gdiafante said

"No doubt you'd be whining along with the other anti-Federalists in opposition to this, as you do."

Ain't that the truth. I would wager that Ben and Chief are likely the two largest producers of "whine" in the state of Tennessee.... to that I say, "Jeez"...

Get it, "Jeez" and "Whine".... :-)

By: BenDover on 9/4/09 at 2:13

Brrrrk... do you disagree that statistics should be taught in school?

The odds of our existence are pretty slim. For all the tumblers in the realm of physics to line up in such a way that matter is even possible requires ratios with numbers so big we don't even have names for them and that we can only represent them with exponentiation.

And three billion bits of data organized itself into the blueprint for a conscious life-form with each element so complicated that somehow separately evolving dependent component parts would have to know of the other part's function before having any use whatsoever?

And each blueprint for the life-form is repeated in each of the trillions of cells in the life-form... each cell being a factory more complicated than anything man has ever created with a size so small that it can rest on the head of a pin.

Are these the kinds of statistics and facts you would have our students learn?

Or would you have them continue to learn Darwinian inferences where the timeline is spotted with large unexplained gaps best described by, "Then a miracle happens"?

Our government schools ARE teaching a religion. The religion is FAITH that somehow science will resolve the mysteries it cannot explain; and by exclusion displace a religion that it considers repulsive and a challenge to its power and authority.

By: slacker on 9/4/09 at 2:13

nazi, if you are still online, did you get a flu shot? Seriously.

By: gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 2:16

Here we go...he found his stones...yawn

By: brrrrk on 9/4/09 at 2:18

Ben,

So what you're basically saying is that because there are things that are currently beyond our ability to explain (like the color of the sky, say 200 years ago) then it must be the doing of some supreme being? As I said, and as you're now proving, creationism is based on the non-existence of scientific evidence.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/4/09 at 2:22

Ok...let me try again.

I think we should have a federal government that does ONLY what it is supposed to do per the Constitution.

By: Kosh III on 9/4/09 at 2:25

chief
THIS is what you said on page 3
"I would like our country to go back to what we had in the beginning however...a more constitutionally correct country."

You said NOTHING about amendments, you just got caught and tried to cover up.

To go back to the beginning, say 1790 would have a propertied male only franchise with Indians and coloreds as inferior semi-humans with few rights, in other words the true Republican agenda.

By: BenDover on 9/4/09 at 2:25

No... what I'm saying is exactly what I said.

Much of Science that is taught is based on the non-exisence of scientific evidence. If we can only teach verifiable scientific fact then Science itself should be held to the same standard.

By: dargent7 on 9/4/09 at 2:26

gd: Was Ebert the one who got brain cancer, or...Siskel. Have no idea. You should go on Jepoardy and win millions instead of hanging out with these dirt bags, idiots, and nuts,..no pun intended.

By: brrrrk on 9/4/09 at 3:13

BenDover said.

"Much of Science that is taught is based on the non-exisence of scientific evidence. If we can only teach verifiable scientific fact then Science itself should be held to the same standard."

Bull! Ever hear of the scientific method? EVERY accepted scientific theory (even evolution) must be supported by imperical data generated by repeatable experiments... again, unlike creationism.

By: gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 3:15

I don't think they teach the scientific method in mental institutions, brrrrk.

By: dargent7 on 9/4/09 at 3:16

Chief: "Supposed to do"...declare WAR on sovereign nations?

By: brrrrk on 9/4/09 at 3:29

dargent7 said,

"Chief: 'Supposed to do'...declare WAR on sovereign nations?"

SNAP!!! LOL

By: BenDover on 9/4/09 at 4:11

"EVERY accepted scientific theory (even evolution) must be supported by imperical data generated by repeatable experiments... "

You keep believing that... brrrk. They showed me pictures of monkeys, evolving into neanderthals, evolving into humans. There's not a stitch of evidence that this was the case. Human DNA much more closely matches the PIG than it does the Monkey. My science teachers helpfully left that one out; either because they didn't know or because it doesn't fit into THEIR religious view of the world that they were trying to shovel into our impressionable skulls of mush.

None of the life theories of cellular evolution hold up either. The latest, believe it or not, is that since there's no evidence of its formation on its own; that DNA came from space. Thank you... we're space seed. The ancient Mayans would be proud.

See, you try to use a God of the Gaps argument against me in that you say I try to say God exists in the Gaps of Science that we have not yet discovered. My argument is that the gaps are so vast that it takes a greater faith to believe there was not an intelligent godly influence upon the formation and advancement of life than the simpler Occam's Razor solution that there was.

Y'all have a nice weekend.

By: gdiafante on 9/4/09 at 5:00

Yah...ten stones....you can crawl back under one now, thanks.

By: Loner on 9/7/09 at 9:50

Last Friday morning, the same old LTE was still up, so I figured the NCP would be dormant until after Labor Day. Sorry I missed the conversations. Chief and Ben parading around like Judeo-Christian holymen, useful idiots for Zionism, no doubt.

Ironically, these two men-of-God are the first to wave the US flag and call for pre-emptive invasions, bombings, airstrikes, torture, incarcerations and occupation. I see the Judeo part in all that, that's all standard operating procedure for the Jewish State, but I don't see the Christian part in all that. Jesus was a Zionist militant?

Sadly, these two misguided patriots, cannot see the real danger to our beloved republic - more Holy War at Israel's behest. Guys like Ben and Chief are unwitting dupes and unkowingly are part of the fifth column of Israeli loyalists working for Israel's benefit, right here, behind the scenes in the states. It's quite despicable.

By: revo-lou on 9/7/09 at 12:35

Same old BS rant from loner. Glad to know that some things NEVER change

By: dargent7 on 9/8/09 at 4:15

This paper has got to be kidding. Same LTE for 5 days? ONE? Christ, I'll edit, cut and paste the column for free. Don't the owners realize we have no lives and our very existence depends on tormenting and ridiculing the likes of Bend-O, Chief, and id? Anyway, off to work, maybe when I check back a new LTE will be posted.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/8/09 at 4:36

Good morning Nashville. I,m in Atlantia for the time being

I thought that we would have a new letter today too. Maybe one of the right-wing nuts could compose a letter on why they have screwed the world? But I know they will just bleam the left for their screw ups.

I love the way the conservatives have got God wraped up in a nice right wing package. I would love to talk more about it when I get back. Maybe today, it I am not to tired. Most likely it will be tomorrow.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/8/09 at 4:40

I,m glade to see revo-lou. I HAVE MISSED YOU.

By: house_of_pain on 9/8/09 at 5:31

I'm starting to feel like Bill Murray in 'Groundhog Day'...

By: Captain Nemo on 9/8/09 at 6:55

Why house do you feel like Bill Murray?

By: house_of_pain on 9/8/09 at 7:01

Because we still have this same LTE.

By: Kosh III on 9/8/09 at 7:32

Dear Editor

Get with it!!!

By: Loner on 9/8/09 at 7:40

I'm happy to know that revo-lou is happy to know that some things never change. I barely remember revo-lou, always with the negative, if I recall - something along the lines of Sidneyames and/or Ycartrob. That's great, I get tired of preaching to the choir, give me a good old fashioned sinner to work with, they're a lot more fun.

By: Loner on 9/8/09 at 7:51

For the record, I blame some of the American automobile manufacturer's woes on undue the influences of NASCAR anf the NHRA.

Chrysler does not have any hybrids, but they do have a glut of re-introduced hemis, hot rods and heavy haulers. General Motors can't make a profit, but they can make retro muscle cars come back from the technological graveyard. Now, after announcing it is bankrupt, GM has introduced a 426 HP Camaro that looks like the spittin' image of its 1968 predecessor. They just don't get it, do they?

They like to blame the UAW for their predicaments, but the unions did not decide to look backwards for inspiration, management did that. They can use a checkered flag to drape their corporate coffins. RIP.

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/8/09 at 8:19

Remember when Obama said "Judge me by the people who surround me." ? Sheesh! Looks like he's having a pretty rough month...and it sure doesn't look like it'll get any better!

Jones' Resignation May Embolden Administration Critics
Now that White House green jobs adviser Van Jones has stepped down, Republicans are raising concerns about the administration's reliance on "czars."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/06/jones-resignation-embolden-administration-critics/

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/8/09 at 8:21

And THIS is why I believe the Healthcare bill is going to be DOA...because Pelosi will NOT give up the public option and the majority of constituents do not want one...which will put most Congressmen in the middle during an election year.

Lawmakers seek survival in unpopular Congress
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090906/pl_nm/us_usa_congress_preview

By: chiefpayne568 on 9/8/09 at 8:26

Wow...39 more and Pelosi has lost it! And really, that isn't a lot either.

Already, 23 Dems have said they will vote ‘no’ on healthcare reform
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/57565-already-23-dems-have-said-they-will-vote-no-on-reform

By: brrrrk on 9/8/09 at 9:13

One of the major arguments you hear from the Right on universal health care is that irresponsible people will overuse the system by running to the doctor every time they get a sniffle. This weekend I heard this statistic from a doctor representing www.madashelldoctors.com. Americans go to the doctor an average of 4 times a year... Canadians (who have universal health care and should by all "rights" be abusing the system) average 5.9 visits a year. Wow, can you believe how much they abuse that system of theirs!!!

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 9:39

So we can expect a 50% increase in consumption of the scarce resource of health care services across the board?

By: Kosh III on 9/8/09 at 9:44

Madashelldoctors.com was interesting.

What I don't hear are any intelligent reasons why single-payer is not an option. It seems to me that would achieve economies of scale and save costs.
Isn't that what Republicans want? To keep their money? It's all about money to them and this would seem the way to go.

By: brrrrk on 9/8/09 at 9:51

BenDover said,

"So we can expect a 50% increase in consumption of the scarce resource of health care services across the board?"

Spoken as someone who always sees his wallet as half empty and not half full. Well, here's another statistic from that same doctor. The average American medical office requires some one working 40 hours a week to handle paperwork specific to insurance claims. The average Canadian medical office can process all the Canadian health care paperwork in about and hour and a half. Hmmmm, 40 hours versus 1.5 hours... now where's that money going?

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 9:52

Just pointing out the flaws in the religion of Atheism again, Loner. Did you have a nice weekend? You seem to be in a bad mood... first busting on Zionists... then on the ever-reasonable and often quite cleaver... Revo-Lou... and then on to Muscle Car derision. It sounds like someone’s got a case of the Mondays.

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 9:53

cleaver ->clever

By: Captain Nemo on 9/8/09 at 10:06

brrrrk,Ben thoinks that God is in the bank.

By: Captain Nemo on 9/8/09 at 10:09

Alright who but the o in thoinks??

By: BenDover on 9/8/09 at 10:15

The endless sophomoric defenses of Obamacare are quite tedious.

This is serious guys. The US market underwrites the whole rest of the price controlled world. When it is eliminated at the hands of proletarian projection by rich liberals who suffer wealth guilt and live a life of outrage on behalf of others… well it ain’t gonna be pretty.

We will have a class system based on government pull rather than work/reward and such a system is unsustainable. The USSR had nationalist propaganda to keep it afloat as long as it did… China has prisons and the whip for as long as it will last… Socialist Europe has relied on the US market for innovations and our ‘got-your-back’ Military to allow them to dump most of their budgets into populist political bribery.

We will not be able to maintain our liberty with the centrally controlled economy necessary to sustain national health care and the inevitable shrinking GDP necessary to pay for it.

We teeter on the brink of economic collapse now; as proven by the damaged wreaked by the simple anticipation for which Obama and a leftist congress promises and strives. And, note this… the economy will not return until the adults are again in charge… a group if adults learned enough to know better than failed ideologies of government-as-charity… and a group if adults who have matured enough to know that everyone else is not an idiot.